Repotting a Problematic Japanese Black Pine Bonsai I Don't Like!

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  • čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
  • Hi everyone! Follow along as I try to work with a problematic Japanese Black Pine that I don't like! We will go through my though process and find a solution for the trunk issue.
    0:00 Introduction
    0:58 Root work
    3:44 The problem
    6:35 Put it back in the pot
    7:05 Analysis
    7:27 Defining the apex
    10:47 Summary
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  • @growclipbonsaiforseniors1951
    @growclipbonsaiforseniors1951 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Don't get down on yourself. This was a very good video. You know why? It is because you are not giving up on this tree and you have the hidden passion to transform it into something great.

  • @ChrisMarrero75
    @ChrisMarrero75 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Again, you shared you have had trees have died under your care. Making me more and more comfortable with just relaxing about my mistakes. (Which is a minor miracle lol). That's why I love watching you work. :) plus I am going get a chinese elm per your advice.

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Great! Let me know how it goes! Best of luck to you and your bonsai :)

  • @OlysZoo
    @OlysZoo Před 6 měsíci +3

    The black pine deserves to live. I would find 3 nice rocks to pile up on that left side that will disguise the lump and add visual interest like a diorama. The lump tells a story.

  • @metamii
    @metamii Před 6 měsíci +2

    Thank you for uploading videos like this one

  • @coryportmann9144
    @coryportmann9144 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I think you’re great! I enjoy watching you very much, and I’m learning a lot. Keep them coming! 🙏🤗

  • @diane2114
    @diane2114 Před 6 měsíci

    I love your refreshing attitude. Makes me chuckle 😂. Opposite of Peter Chan. Gives a good balance of philosophies!! Don't change!

  • @williamscott791
    @williamscott791 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I'm just this year working on three Japanese Black pine seedlings these will be my first pines........ What a great tree you have there love all these large old trees they're amazing❤

  • @denhardy7238
    @denhardy7238 Před 6 měsíci +2

    You can’t throw any tree out 😂😎Dennis

  • @user-xw3cx7or6g
    @user-xw3cx7or6g Před 6 měsíci +1

    At first I really thought you was going to trash this tree ..end the end you surprised me ..can't wait to see how it turns out .. thanks for sharing..

  • @massimiliano.giacometti
    @massimiliano.giacometti Před 6 měsíci +3

    What about adding a rock to partially hide the lump?

    • @MiltonChang
      @MiltonChang Před 6 měsíci

      Thank you for being constructive!

  • @jolievintage4632
    @jolievintage4632 Před 5 měsíci +1

    you are a great problem solver

  • @phillipwaterman5721
    @phillipwaterman5721 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Nice job Milton keep up the good work mate thanks

  • @tobyg5073
    @tobyg5073 Před 6 měsíci +1

    This was great , every video is educational, I thank you 😊

  • @briantroll5165
    @briantroll5165 Před 21 dnem +1

    This tree would be stunning as a root over rock (if that was doable with the roots at this point in the tree's development), let the rock be part of the tree's base, like a sever bend over a pseudo shari; or standing tall over a rock-base that has eroded away...
    I would fall in love with that kind of tree.

  • @BillyHarjo-us8yz
    @BillyHarjo-us8yz Před 6 měsíci +2

    I think you did a fantastic job on hiding the lump and the design is very eye appealing. In time, after you do your thing on it I think it will be a nice bonsai.

  • @ianmorrison9480
    @ianmorrison9480 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I like the honesty. Don’t throw good money after bad, is a good maxim. Things don’t always go to plan. However, from my perspective, the tree is an old gentleman, it has character, it deserves to live on. I have heard you say before, that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, if you no longer want it, at least leave it at your gate for someone else to enjoy.

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  Před 6 měsíci

      Agreed! I'll give this tree another chance. If you have any suggestions for me, I'd love to hear them!

  • @jfikri1
    @jfikri1 Před 6 měsíci +2

    air layer above the lump to grow new roots as a new base.

    • @jolu77
      @jolu77 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Pine do not air-layer unfortunately.

  • @lorigraham2496
    @lorigraham2496 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I've had trees I've looked at for several years until a solution came to me.

  • @sagebonsai
    @sagebonsai Před 6 měsíci +2

    I personally love how swollen base is. Maybe encourage some whirls and knots to pair with the base. I wish for you not give up on this beautiful tree as it has so much potential to be so much more.

  • @ChannelSobari
    @ChannelSobari Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you forsharing vidio bonsai

  • @housemr8266
    @housemr8266 Před 6 měsíci

    I would like to see how you fix Lumpy in the long run. Thank you for the Video :)

  • @hectorquintero2870
    @hectorquintero2870 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Good strategy to hide the lump in the pot.

  • @sandybonfiglio7545
    @sandybonfiglio7545 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Good job!

  • @brianjanku4549
    @brianjanku4549 Před 6 měsíci +1

    That black pine may be one of the fancy grafted varieties of black pine. It seems alot more dense than a typical black pine.

  • @jerrybullins
    @jerrybullins Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great instructions i really want a black pine. We have a lot of pines here five species.I think the tree you worked on will be fine.The trunk looks very nice.

  • @johnvandegrift5164
    @johnvandegrift5164 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I think once you carve out one side of that lump you will really make it look nice. Definitely worth sticking with it. It’ll be a nice topic for videos watching ways to improve a bad tree at least

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  Před 6 měsíci

      Agreed! Thanks for the feedback! I'll think more about this tree.

  • @Fidgit7
    @Fidgit7 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Please save it and carve that root mass!

  • @Melissa-qe8qd
    @Melissa-qe8qd Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great video! I think carving out the ball slowly is the answer.

  • @Heavenly-places
    @Heavenly-places Před 6 měsíci +2

    Sometimes an imperfection can be an asset. What is ugly or not worth something to one may be very desirable to another. I say let the tree live don’t throw it away look at it as a hidden gem to someone.

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks for your feedback! I will give it another chance!

    • @Heavenly-places
      @Heavenly-places Před 6 měsíci

      @@bonsaiheirloomyour doing great love your channel. I love all trees even the ugly ones

  • @radrickdavis
    @radrickdavis Před 6 měsíci +2

    Can this be air-layered above the bulge? The top 2/3 of the tree is the most interesting. Everyone may have a different opinion on what a good tree shape should or should not be.

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  Před 6 měsíci

      Yes, this is a good idea! I will address this in my video next week so please stay tuned!

  • @t3dwards13
    @t3dwards13 Před 6 měsíci +1

    That was a lot of talk about a lump.
    I'm glad you didn't waste it because it didn't fit your vision.

  • @andrewclack4881
    @andrewclack4881 Před 6 měsíci

    I'll have it! 😂

  • @misovalachovic4988
    @misovalachovic4988 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Nice one, I think you can definitely keep the tree and turn the bottom into dead wood with some interesting carving maybe, some hollow spaces if possible, who knows, it might end up quite unique:)

  • @karencross8077
    @karencross8077 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Not every thing in nature is perfect. I think it has character and that you should continue to try and develop the imperfections that you see. Perhaps you would eventually grow to embrace its uniqueness and enjoy the beauty of nature, regardless of the rules of bonsai.

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  Před 6 měsíci

      That's true, thanks for the reminder! If you have any suggestions, please let me know!

  • @theguru-s2l
    @theguru-s2l Před 6 měsíci +1

    Im growing out a seedling of a native tree i found at work. It would be my first bonzai. Im also collecting more seeds of other trees including fruit trees. A video on how to start a bonzai from a seedling would help me alot.

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks for the feedback! I can make a more in depth video about this. In the meantime, you can check out this video I did on collecting seeds: czcams.com/video/CQYBmoJewz8/video.html

  • @Trend007SongsCollection
    @Trend007SongsCollection Před 6 měsíci +1

    Why dont tilt it like reverse cascade if the lump look bad, the lump could be good base for the reverse cascade though

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  Před 6 měsíci

      Interesting!

    • @Trend007SongsCollection
      @Trend007SongsCollection Před 6 měsíci

      @@bonsaiheirloom Thankyou, the grand idea here is to create new root system using huge cambium storage from the trunk, while make it to mimic a tree that has been fell from a landslide trying to survive following the direction of the sun behind its original rootsystem, its the oppsite of the cascade because cascade trying to mimic tree that are grasping sun from a cliff

  • @josephlevantino1972
    @josephlevantino1972 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Have you announced the winners of the giveaway yet?

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  Před 6 měsíci

      My team and I are working on that! We will contact the 10 winners via email this month. Thanks for being patient.

  • @johnmatejcik2379
    @johnmatejcik2379 Před 6 měsíci +1

    What the heck am I doing wrong.... I've had a black pine potted for about 4 years and have almost no root growth. I've tried three different kinds of soils, the tree is just struggling, not growing vigorous at all. I try more water, less water, more sun, less sun,... I don't get it.

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Use my soil mix, 1 part sandy loam, 1 part peat moss, 1 part perlite, and maybe add add little extra perlite. And gradually move into full sun. Check out my soil mix video here: czcams.com/video/aOeeXAGb6T0/video.html

    • @johnmatejcik2379
      @johnmatejcik2379 Před 5 měsíci

      @@bonsaiheirloom Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a try.

  • @growclipbonsaiforseniors1951
    @growclipbonsaiforseniors1951 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Sometimes a tree that is tough to work with will turn into a swan slowly. Just be patient with the pine and it will reward you in the long run. To me this is a cool ugly duckling.

  • @starbell5407
    @starbell5407 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Did u not want to airlayer a new nebari ?

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  Před 6 měsíci

      This is one idea I will address in my video next week! Thanks!

  • @adamlaughrey6368
    @adamlaughrey6368 Před 6 měsíci +1

    What about an air layer?

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yes, this is one possibility! I will address this in my video next week. Thanks for the suggestion!

  • @christopherlucero2971
    @christopherlucero2971 Před 28 dny +1

    I’ll take that tree don’t throw it away

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  Před 25 dny

      I won't :) I will try to find another way to work with it!

  • @dracokaiser
    @dracokaiser Před 6 měsíci +1

    Don’t throw the tree away!!! The lump is Not a problem at all. Partially carve the lump and turn it into a root over rock

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thanks for the idea!

    • @dracokaiser
      @dracokaiser Před 6 měsíci

      @@bonsaiheirloom I remember seeing a tree in the Japanese version of Bonsai Today magazine (kindai bonsai) that showed a tree with similar problems. The artist carved it from the base and turned it into a twisted trunk pine

  • @OjaiBonsai
    @OjaiBonsai Před 6 měsíci +1

    Give the tree to me. That will solve all the problems

  • @chaiwatpotichanid
    @chaiwatpotichanid Před 6 měsíci +1

    🥰🥰👍

  • @brucedeacon28
    @brucedeacon28 Před 6 měsíci +1

    👍👌🙂

  • @blairmarriott3737
    @blairmarriott3737 Před 6 měsíci

    Sell the tree . Someone else may not mind the lump

  • @acooke7574
    @acooke7574 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Id be willing to be almost all of your subscribers would be ecstatic to own a tree like that.
    Constantly saying you hate it and should throw away isn’t a good look at all.

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  Před 6 měsíci +1

      I apologize if that was the look I gave off. I was simply thinking out loud and working through how I want to fix up this tree. I will keep thinking about this tree, and I welcome suggestions from you too!

  • @timmywood9677
    @timmywood9677 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I will take it off your hands if you don’t like it 😅

  • @joegarland4885
    @joegarland4885 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Shame the black pine will never be right in your eyes, the lump is ugly as you say, it may just as well be a project piece that you can reduce or disguise over time, but I think you will lose interest in the tree, it’s not a lot of good having a tree hanging around that you will never see the beauty that the tree possesses, I suggest you give to one of the members of your club who may appreciate it more.

    • @matshagstrom9839
      @matshagstrom9839 Před 6 měsíci

      I don’t think he is a member of a club. This man is self taught and creates his own standards while not really following the standard created by the bonsai community. Many people march to their own drummer. Some do it really well some would do better learning from others.

    • @joegarland4885
      @joegarland4885 Před 6 měsíci

      Hi Matt Thanks for communicating with me. .If you look back at some of his videos you see he trained with the biggest names in bonsai, he is well connected to various bonsai artists plus he mentions his club he belongs to a number of times in various videos. He does do things his own way which is what we should all do and not be bound by convention, sticking rigidly to the rules laid down for bonsai stymies free expression which in the end does the world of bonsai no favours. Joe. @@matshagstrom9839

  • @elitefitrea
    @elitefitrea Před 6 měsíci

    I think the lump is cool. If it's really trash to you, is there any way I could pay shipping to gain possession of the tree myself?

  • @susanbossert6833
    @susanbossert6833 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I don't see the lump in the same way you do. I think it's a challenge -- something to be overcome.

  • @thejuanderful
    @thejuanderful Před 6 měsíci +2

    Since the bulge is unnatural I think you could embrace it and make it a fantasy bonsai. I would try and create deadwood in the shape of a door and it would look like a little elf home!

  • @stephendaly9986
    @stephendaly9986 Před 6 měsíci

    I can send you my address ill even pay the postage, ill give the tree a good home 😁😅

  • @howardmckeown7187
    @howardmckeown7187 Před 6 měsíci

    i think it's a problem tree, 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @maryweber4176
    @maryweber4176 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I am not even done watching this video, but why on earth would you think of throwing the tree away? It's still living. Plant it in a garden, give it away.

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  Před 6 měsíci

      I didn't mean to actually throw the tree away, I was just frustrated and was thinking out loud. I will address your concerns and what I plan to do with the tree in next week's video, so please stay tuned! Thanks!

  • @yopage
    @yopage Před 6 měsíci +1

    I like the lump.

  • @bryanmorrion9503
    @bryanmorrion9503 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Well a supper amateur i would be proud to put on my table. It in your eyes ugly but in ugliness there can be beauty. 👍🦘🇦🇺

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks for the reminder! Let me try to look at this tree in a different light.