The Cheapest Double Stack 1911 on the Market
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- Last year I reviewed the dirt cheap 1911 from Tisas and it shocked me. When Tisas announced their double stack 1911 (aka 2011), I had to know, can they possibly make a decent 2011 for sub 1000? 2011's are the super car of the gun world......."budget".....and "double stack 1911" don't often go in the same sentence. Let's find out how it goes.
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00:00 - The cheapest DS 1911 on the market
1:29 - Ashley's sister......Mandy
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05:13 - The evolution of the budget 2011
07:40 - Does it work? On the range
11:04 - Turkey, a land of wonders
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I feel like the origin story of that Chili’s menu deserves its own video. I have so many questions.
If we’re talking Chili’s menu then McDonald’s secret menu deserves a discussion
Your only question is where can you find the one that is available.
This might be my favorite opening in a gun review video. If this doesn’t get nominated for an Oscar… it will be a tragedy. 😂
It hits ya!
After this intro (description), I will subscribe! Lol, it was brilliant.
I regularly smile in these 1911 Syndicate videos and occasionally laugh. This one just rocked me and reminded me of why I just cannot stop clicking on them.😂
Ashley and Mandy were born in Turkey, but they are proud Americans. They carry that John Moses Browning figure with grace and panache!
Truth!
Ashley is Made Here now, in Georgia I think.
@@tonymickens8803honestly I think that could be worse than being made in Turkey at a state of the art ISO facility.
@@pimpovic2 HAHAHAHAHA!
@@tonymickens8803 no offense because I want to promote American made, but look at all of the QC problems that PSA is having.
To have the same attention to detail and quality with US labor rates you'd need to spend double. So seeing that it's US made for the same money should be a red flag.
You should do a head to head with tisas and rock island double stacks. I think it'd be worthwhile to see both companies go head to head
I bought one of the Duty DS 1911s recently to see if I'd like 2011 style guns, I wish I hadn't because I can't look at my polymer pistols the same. My buddies and I agree that the budget Turkatto is a better shooter than any of the Glocks/Shadow Systems/Sig guns we have.
Since purchase I added a light, red dot, and tuned the sear spring to drop the trigger weight to a 3lb break. I love this thing!
Be careful. I ended up having to reach out to a gunsmith after trying to tune my Prodigy...things were running well, and then I hit around 700rds and it started suffering hammer follow. The only conclusion was that my tweaks had fucked something up.
Definitely enjoy the professionally done trigger setup though. 2lbs 6oz and 600rds without cleaning and it's chugging along.
@@Osprey1994 Unfortunately you're not alone there, I've got a VP9 I had to take back to the gunsmith because I was in over my head. I'll keep an eye on my Duty DS, I'm about 500-550 rounds post sear spring tuning and still at a 3lb pull on the trigger scale.
My Tisas B45R carry is SOLID. Just surpassed 1K rounds and had 2 stoppages, one ammo and one I couldn’t figure out but it hasn’t happened since so I’m chalking it up to new gun. Surprisingly quite nice for a bomb ass price.
I got the duty version after shooting my buddies carry,3 yrs,never had an issue, I did a comp and magwell, I have over 20 pistols and it's still one of my favorites.
From a Turk who owns a Turkish beretta clone, copies of classic guns are good to go( beretta 92, cz75, 1911) I personally would trust a tisas more out of the box than a kimber tell you that much...
Same
Kimbers are beyond unreliable and have witnessed myself.
@@mikep7361 Currently dealing with major issues with my Kimber
My very first kimber was absolutely horrible and will never touch that brand again
Well yea….😂😂😂😂😂
picked one up for $630 at Vance outdoors sneaky sale. Freaking love it. Also It comes with 2 checkmate mags.
Got the Duty version from Battlehawk Armory for around $620.
Battlehawk has the worst customer service ever, and will straight up lie to you. Good prices but I wouldn't give them money ever again
Got mine for about the same from Primary Arms on sale.
Absolutely in love with my Tisas B9R Carry DS. All i did to it was put in an Atlas full length guide rod with a 12lb recoil spring and 19lb main spring and outside of the little bit of play from upper to lower especially for the price its one of the best firing handguns I have ever had. Also you desever an Oscar for that intro!
Thank you for doing this video. I am picking up Mandy on the 15th. Trading in my G20 for the Night Stalker in 10mm. I am going to keep her name Mandy too. Thank you sir!
Treat her good
Your decision making is questionable
Barrel length ?
Kidnapping is nothing to joke about Chris!! 😳😘
@@1911syndicate I am glad you guys are taking the time to review this stuff. I already have my custom 2011 (that was 2 years in planning, saving, having initially built and then changed for things like getting into NV shooting), but my buds don't have the budget I do because, kids (nothing wrong with that). These are very tempting to them for getting into the market.
My local FFL has a handful of Tisas in stock, never heard of them but they seem pretty nice 😊
Just gotta know what it is and what it isn’t
I have a Tisas 1911 Duty in .45ACP and I'm quite impressed with it. I cut a little piece of rubber to protect the firing pin and worked the slide and trigger several hundred times while in front of the TV. After a good cleaning it runs like a champ!
Thanks, Enjoyed the info,show and humor. Been a 1911 fan/user for many decades.
Coming from a Mandy Carry, I agree with the love. #42 of the 1911 DS Carry, EGW Sear, Atlas flat trigger, 19# main, 11# recoil spring. Going to be my limited optics gun for this season.
Send it
Excellent video as usual. I have a Tisas standard 1911, it runs.
Thanks! Been really waiting for this one.
Literally the greatest intro and storytelling of any guntuber, john wick sequel, or morgan freeman reading aloud, I’ve ever watched. Like for real BRAVO! 👏🏻I said what I said and I stand on business
lol
@@1911syndicate not even kidding- I listened to podcast you were on and you spoke about cutting out bullshit and getting right to it, and the intro got right to it, people don’t realize this video deserves 2 million views like a demo ranch vid gets
@@lambman1999I couldn't agree more! This intro was epic and absolutely hilarious. Glad I'm subscribed!
THIS is the gun to send to Hayes custom. They did a phenomenal job of cleaning up RIA guns to make them competition ready. Now imagine starting here, and where Hayes can take that for not a whole lot of money in upgrades.
Honestly that’s kind of not the point of this gun. However, I’m all about doing absurd shit with firearms. I will also say causing someone to have an aneurysm when you tell them you have a 3000 dollar Tisas customized 2011 from Hayes sounds HILARIOUS.
Great review! It’s been in my radar for a bit.
I love your intros (monologs) they are hilarious 😂.
Nice review. Love the analogies. Solid info. My Tisas for $500 runs like a tank and has better finish than most. Thanks
I purchased my Tisas M1911A1 as a meme for $300. It’s been stupid good for the cost.
Thank you for the review 👍🏻
Excellent video. You hit the nail on the head. Its meant as a solid building block for those who want to customize or dip their toes in the water. Btw, the trigger bars are the same on all the double stacks…the shoes are different between the models
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Now you need to do the MAC. Basically the same as the Tisas, but bull barrel and RMR
And what would her name be? 🤔
@@dannyp2267
Macy.
MAC's turkish imports are made by Tisas
And NO MIM PARTS
I just shot my duty ds today for the first time an hour ago. I got home and saw you made this video and was thrilled. Ran like a champ. I had a Staccato and sold it because I wasn’t impressed. Added a dot, magwell, light and the Tisas is great. I don’t feel guilty about the price as I got it for $655 out the door including ffl fees.
Excellent!
Thought I was on another channel clicked on this then got busy wasn't looking lol have a blessed wknd from ol fla boy have been looking more and more at these ty
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I really appreciate the fact you bring up and are a lefty, as a lefty myself I always have to factor that in when buying a lot of guns. Had a Glock that I bought online not knowing that it had a extended safety and first time at the range I dropped my mag a lot… just had to buy a stock mag release and was fine. And I’m on the fence about buying one of these
Love my Tisas double stacks, carry with a Nighthawk trigger and EGW bushing and the Nighthawk with EGW fire control and an EGW bushing , both have Atlas Gunworks double stack triggers .That Nighthawk set up comes in at a 3# pull. Zero overtravel.
Friday uploads are the best
It’s the only way
You were killin me with Ashlee and Mandy. Well done!
This really was a great video. No surprises there. Everyone screams Mandy is the must have hottie these days, but I've been to the buffet enough to know her sister is the keeper, especially as they age. 👍👍
Time shall tell
The descriptions alone,, has me subscribing!
Cheapest double stack 1911 would actually probably be the Rock Island M1911 A2 GI. Boasts a 10/14 round flush fit mag of 45, fixed sights, spurred hammer, one-sided safety, OG grip safety & shortened trigger, non-railed dust cover for fast-AF draws and high-tech black polymer grips. It's basically just a GI milspec A1 but double stack for around $550 - $650 street price.
Model number is 51453 for research purposes.
It’s my Sunday carry and it’s more accurate than I am. She’s an all business gal up front but a party chick in the back!
I just wanna say that I appreciate the objective review of a cheaper 2011, most youtubers who've videos I've watched on them go into it wanting to hate it.
Man. This video is pure gold. The humor. The back stories. I laughed more at this video than any other one you did. Aside from that, I take your and Chris’s opinions pretty solid on videos. I’m behind on watching videos, but I actually handled one of the DS RIA’s today, and it felt pretty decent. Have you shot/reviewed one of those yet and I missed it? If so, I know you gave this one an A- and said it would be hard to beat as a sub-1k gun, but this vs the RIA? Head to head comparison perhaps? ALSO. Referencing watches, there was a SMALL clip @ 13:43 with a green faced watch. What brand? It looked great! I know I’ve said this before, but LOVE the videos!! 🤘🏻
I think it’s a Panerai submersible e steel you saw. The RIA vid we’d probably do
Top notch! Thanks for making this interesting. Oooh Mandy.
She’s doing squats right this moment
@@1911syndicate send her over for some training! 😜
Seriously, this is the 1st video of yours that I've watched, b/c I'm on the fence about investing in a 1911. And the review was great. And the commentary was FUCKING HYSTERICAL!!!! Morgan Freeman couldn't have done any better!!
Now I'm a new subscriber, and of course gave you the thumbs up!
I got the Arctic Marathon GSAR last month and loving it. Nice watch Jake.
Dude yes!! It’s an amazing watch I love it
This video is highly underrated. I was thoroughly entertained and educated at the same time. Breast augmentation and tummy tuck vacation planned for
My wife, I’ll be visiting the Turkish gun manufacturers while she is recovering
I have a slight tear in my eye from this story and will now ALWAYS think of Mandy when shooting my Tisas Stingray...which I love!
My wife bought me a Tisas 1911 about 5 years ago for under $400, and it quickly became one of my favorite pistols. Bull barrel, ambi safety, extended beaver tail, picatinny rail... I wondered if you would review their DS offerings when they were announced. I guess I'm in the market for a Mandy now.
Was waiting on this. Well, this and the MAC 9 DS.
I've got 3 different 2011's....higher end, all have been back and forth to various shops to fix various issues. If I had to do it again, this Tisa's is certainly on the menu. I have a Tisa's Commander sized 10mm. It works great....but, I put in an EGW fire control kit, had the slide/barrel ported, and popped for a Bar-Sto threaded bull barrel. Yeah, the price is sure creeping up, but ya know what, it is so darned tight, accurate, and man, really fun to shoot, and I didn't spend $5k on a Nighthawk (which are incredible)
The BORROED MENU SYNDICATE......NICE VIDEO CHEAP GUN CONTEST WAS YOUR best one yet😂 im still laughing..
Look forward each week to these video drops…
We love doing it. So win win
The ria tac ultra was the only 10mm version i could find on the market. Pretty happy with it.
I dont even own any 1911's YET(20), but I love this channel. Thank you.
Cheers mate
God damn it man, again with a rock solid banger of a gun review video! Kind of want to fool around with a Mandy now. I’m torn, skeptical and quite curious. Love the Hate for the Pit Viper btw too! Held one before and I too was not impressed. Maybe one day you’ll do a review on an MPA High Cap 1911. Either way great video, and I hate not hating this video 😂
Go get you a Mandy
Really enjoy my 4.25 model. Biggest gripe was the (lack of) grip texture. Swapped a Prodigy grip onto it and it's good to go.
High praise from you. Respect.
It’s earned it
$860 for the MAC version at my local shop. Needed a little tuning out of the box but not terrible.
What holster are you using and when is your mini14 sbr video coming out?
I have one of these for a few months now! Love it but haven’t found a non light bearing holster. What’s the OWB you use?
Wish they would apply the 1.5 stack style magazine and grip from the micro 9 world (or P365 Xmacro) to keep the old 1911 ergonomics for those for whom the thick 2011 grip is just too wide.
Absolutely legendary analogy for the intro 😂😂😂
Ashley and Mandy, the duo
Also working on a review of my own for the Nightstalker version. A couple hundred rounds in with no malfunctions. Night and day difference in how smooth this is compared to my old Tisas 1911 in 45acp. My extraction isn’t perfect and sometimes throws brass in my face, but it hasn’t caused any malfunctions. Playing with different ammo types to see if that changes extraction. Otherwise will have a gunsmith look at it.
Yeah see, that is not a complaint I have had about my Prodigy. My prodigy has insane extraction, it legitimately tries to throw snap caps across my room.
@@Osprey1994 I feel like Tisas suffers from QC, But the guns themselves aren’t bad. 1911 platform is finicky as it is unless you buy a hand fit gun.
Wilson combat extractor or Fusion Firearms
I have the 10mm Night Stalker, and it really surprised me. Out the box It shot every round without an issues, and i was shooting freedom munitions reloads. i like it just as much as my 10mm ronin.
I just bought a tisas night stalker fs 9mm and cant seem to find any information on which holster is compatible with it
I’ve had a tisas 1911 for 12 years it’s been a great pistol completely reliable for 1000s of rounds.
Whats the R.O.I for buying the Staccato P over the Tisas?
Listen, I know we talked about how you basically stole my love story for your first video, but this is getting too close to home!! Now I can nether confirm nor deny the similarities between my wife Ashley, who did in fact work at Chili's like I mentioned, and my Sister In Law MANDA in your sequel, but lets just say you are killing it!!
Love the review btw!! Everyone here at SDS appreciates the kind words you've shared about Türkiye!! We've put in a lot of hours and engineering work to help our manufactures get it right!!
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@@1911syndicate Terrorists.
Great video and info, I died laughing on your references to chicks!!!!!
I was looking pretty hard at these, but then I found a NIB S&W 5906 I had to have 😂 Maybe next time
I think the dot makes both eyes open on irons not only easier but, effortless.
My mom bought one kislux and she loves it. It had been there for over 10 years when she went out with it.
Curious to know how good this Tisas shoots suppressed?
Tisas uses the same mags as staccato. Checkmate magazines with the Tisas logo on it. The only difference I’m aware of the they swap out the follower.
This might be my favorite video that you guys have ever done! I can’t wait for the ridiculous comments, somehow disparaging this, to come in
My wife hearing this video, out of context. What are you watching lol? I smile and say, ashley is a gun 😂
You got me at the Texas Roadhouse.
My local shop has a ton of these, but i dont if theyre crap or a decent budget option.
wtf that list of what turkey is great at came out of nowhere and that was awesome 😂
Btw: you should feel dirty. Have a 10 and you got a thing for a 3 😂
A cinematic masterpiece. Y'all need a DP director of Photography
Man, I was so enthralled with the whole Ashley and Mandy story that I completely forgot this was a video on a firearm. Lmao
I just got one. I am a Tisas fanboy. I am new to 1911s and am loving that 1911 trigger. My first impressions is that its a great gun. I am a big boy and find the grip is just right. This might be a gun I shoot regularly. I never was a Glock guy. I can see myself trying to wear this gun out. I have a love affair with my 10mm Ronin. It has been splendid and beautiful. This is a great side affair.
Whatever happened to the Para Ordnance P-14??
You earned a new subscriber today son!!
Sweet!!
I've seen a few of your videos now, but the Chili's VS TRH opening got the subscribe out of me lmao
lol
Dude that was hilarious. Great video.
So, would you recommend the Tisas 2011 9 mm DS Duty to a person who can only afford a budget pistol? Yes, I am asking for myself. I want a DS 9mm 2011 but cannot afford them these extremely pricey pistols.
Just the video I wanted to see.
That story in the beginning 🤣👍
What do you think about tisas br9 carry or Kimber KDS9C for conceal carry
I don’t have the experience on the kimber to comment. Tisas is solid though
Dude. I’ve LOVED my single stack 1911 from Tisas. This is def a cop for me
Man as I sit here literally about to go to my gun dealers house with a couple in mind , and this is one, it is gonna be hard for me to not get it. I hate , or do I, hear you guys that clearly can play in the realms of high end 1911s which I never will be able to, give raves about this pistol. Ok run on sentences hahaha who cares. Based off you and Eli’s vid I went and got the regular nightstalker in 9. So now I’m going to get her sister. lol thanks man great vid
If the Nightstalker came in FDE it would be a no-brainer for me to buy. It would be like my very own off brand Sand Hawk lol.
GREAT VIDEO.......
Do you ever plan to check out the stealth arms platypus?
Yes. Very soon
The commentary on this video was the most hilarious shit I've ever heard. I give the commentary an A-. 🤣🤣🤣 But 100% agree. Idk what beats it for the money. You know what's better than that 10 at home? That 6 you've never had before. 🤣🤣🤣
lol
Helga my Teutonic Para Ordanance P14-45 Princess, is thiccity thicc!
I just got a Tisas BD9 DS Duty. Got a PID holosun light, a 407k. Bought there magwell and bought the prodigy cut talon tape which fit perfectly. I have put 800 rounds through it already within three weeks. It has never failed, not once. Is it a Nighthawk or a Staccatto? Nope. Is it my carry gun? Helllll yyyeeeahhhh brother.
Bought it memorial day weekend. Got 20% percent off it, the optic and the light. 1050 total after taxes and everything.
Hells yes
Is the long slide 10mm double stack from Girsan on your radar?
Not really
If I’m not mistaken, para ordinance came out with the double stacked 1911 before sti.
Yes
Hey do y'all know if the nightstalker magwell will fit the duty?
Should. Same grip. They sell the magwell and long pin on SDS Imports site.
@@chrisferguson1911 thank you I didn't see that!
Tisas! Hear me now! Make the nightstalker in 9mm withOUT a threaded barrel! Cheers!
I like that
I bought their 9mm duty barrel and it went right in, works perfect. Got it straight from Tisas for around a $100
Did you guys review the Jakl??
Negative
I'll probably get one of the Tisas 2011's as a backup for the Prodigy.
Getting a Prodigy for 1200 was a good deal in my book, unless you don't want a bull barrel.
PS. I have become a better shoot thanks to shooting red dots, and I do find it translates to irons. I am slower with irons, but my fundamentals are better thanks to the dot giving me more information to work with.