Pre-Fader vs Post-Fader: Which One To Use & Why
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- Have you ever wondered what the Pre- and Post-Fader buttons in your DAW or mixing console were for? In this video, I’ll show you what these buttons do and give you an example of when you might use each of them…
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00:00 - Opening
00:12 - What is Meant by Pre- and Post-Fader?
00:37 - DAW Demonstration: Post-Fader (AFL)
01:39 - DAW Demonstration: Pre-Fader (PFL)
02:15 - How AFL/PFL affects effects
02:42 - Parallel Processing Pre-Fader with Decapitator!
03:52 - Setting up Aux Sends on a console
04:46 - Monitoring on a mixing console? Go Pre-Fader (PFL)
05:39 - LIVE: Choosing PFL or SOLO-IN-PLACE
06:07 - NEXT VIDEO - Gain Staging
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“I can.” That was hilarious.
Marshmello did it while mixing live and we all sang "a Capella" the "missing" lyrics. Sometimes the band will stop playing so the audience can sing the words. I mean what you know, however.
Thank you far sharing this with us! The mixing console and the utilizazion of the pre/post settings in a live situation made it very clear!
Glad it was helpful!
Another good use of pre fade sends is when doing side chain triggering, for example, have pre fade kick trigger compressor on the bass.
Thanks for sharing!
Perfect explanation; I would have loved to hear your thoughts on practical post-production mixing applications;
I tend to have all my mix sends set-up post-fader, and the audio channels controlled by VCA faders; so when I bring up and down the level of snares in a group, or other instruments in a group; their relative level to the effects remains in tact;
Thanks for this video. Depending on the routing and busses, figuring this out can be frustrating when working with modulation and compression. If the track is not routed properly, when the fader is adjusted, it will change how it hits the compressor after the compressor has been set.
Was just thinking about this!
best video to explain this, I've watched many.
Been waiting on a video like this to appear in my feed for a while now. Thank you 🙏
Hope you enjoyed it!
Love your videos man. Bless you
Nice video!! Thank you for sharing. Tomorrow i've got a practice for school on making monitors mixing in a live
Kyle, my man. Sometimes I feel like you got my YT search history and then you proceed to make a video. swear to god was looking for this two days ago.
Kyle tell me please you didn't.. 😂😅
I don’t! But I’m glad to hear this.
Very nice explanation! I've also found it helpful to think about these as the points in the signal flow where the audio signal is taken from for the aux, especially with the layout of analog consoles. There is also a usecase for post fader monitors in live sound: when providing monitors for dance shows where the music is played from a device, you might fade out the music in certain parts and you don't want the monitors ruining that fade-out, so you use post fader sends. In that situation, you can obtain all the independent volume control you might need with the master of the send as there's only one source.
Great point! Thanks for watching.
Very interesting and useful video. 👍💪😎
Great 👍 video, Kyle.
Really insightful, the only part I still can't get my head around was the @3:27 regarding the parallel processing
thanks 🙏 Sir
A couple years ago I did a festival and I was told that I had to do pre-fade effects and pre-fade aux fed subs.
The explanation for why I had to do it that way it didn’t make any sense.
I looked over the equipment and determined that everything functions the way that I’m used to that equipment functioning, so I just ran the consult the way I normally do and I never got told anything about having to change the pre-fade anything.
I learned the use of pre and post by using distortion. (Pre = before the signal hits, post = after the signal hits)
What happened to yesterday video on stereo Image different between headphones and monitors it was interesting
I at times have set my Monitor facing each other out of phase which preserve the base and give a third type of listening experience 😊
There was a small error in production! It will post next week!
@@AudioUniversity thank you I look forward to watching the whole video it’s an interesting subject
I use Logic and when I use sends, the default setting is called "post pan". Does this imply that it is also post fader?
I’m not sure. You can easily experiment with it to find out. Set up a reverb setup like I did in example 1.
What program are you using? Are you using logic Pro?
Reaper
@@AudioUniversity is reaper better than logic Pro? Every time I try to record even when I do basic recording with logic Pro it seems like the fans on my laptop go berserk. Reaper doesn't use a lot of intensive processing does it? I'd love to have a powerful DAW that doesn't make the fans go crazy even when doing basic recording. you need so much ram and storage space to even record with logic Pro it would seem. I like to do a lot of multi harmonies and thick layers and when I try to do all that, logic pro skips and I have sinking issues. This happens whether I have effects on the channel strip or no effect at all. I even tried recording harmonies with logic Pro on the computer that has way more ram and logic pro still skips and glitches and crackles
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Thanks for watching!
Cheers.