Hey Sparkie! I was in Sherbrooke for the first time a couple years ago & I thought it was magical. Driving down from Montreal past forests full of big trees and every one was a totally different tree. Amazed me. Mind you, Edinborough must be beautiful too. Like the man said, wherever you go, there you are. A very funny comment -- thanks!
I want the Real McKenzies version of this song! They performed it live in Amsterdam as an opening to their gig, it was AWESOME! Paul McKenzies voice is so right for this song!
Yeah. Amsterdam. That's where you'll get an authentic version of a Cape Breton songwriter's song about Halifax Nova Scotia. Shake your head. There is only one legitimate version. czcams.com/video/B6Nl3PaTimA/video.html This one is crap.
I like the Cories a lot, but they have gentle sweetness that doesn't quite convey the anger of a guy who's lost both legs and six years of his life to a stupid misadventure. Stan's version is not as pretty, but a lot stronger.
I can't believe the people taking offense to the lyric change for national reasons! Let me point a few things out! Sherbrooke and Halifax are both located in the province of Nova Scotia. Nova Scotia is latin for New Scotland. In the late 1700's, Nova Scotia was heavily settled by Scots and to this day, is the largest single ethnic heritage most people identify as! In the 1800's more people spoke Gaelic then English! Gaelic is still spoken there to this day, and is even the first language for many! It's no stretch of reality that a man on a Halifax pier in 1784 was homesick for Scotland! That said, I don't believe most people are upset about substituting a Scottish location into the song, they're upset because there are just too many damn syllables in Edinburgh! I know better, but it sounds like a mockery is being made of the song. Put Glasgow in there instead and I bet 99% of the bitching would have never happened!
There are other reasons to change words an in this video "Corries Interview Clancy Brothers & Tommy Makem" Does a very good job pointing it out. czcams.com/video/pE3d7d_oA5A/video.html
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It is often common in folk songs played live to substitute different words that customize the song to the people playing it, to the location be played, etc. It can really add fun and make the audience feel like they are included in the performance. Talk to any folk musician or any musician and I think they would understand.
@@JohnSmith-oe5kx for the sake of keeping the conversation going, sure adding a three syllable word might change the meter a little, but in this case, there is lots of time within the musical phrase for it. It does not seem rushed at all. Sometimes when writing a song, I write something down and want to cram it all in to one place because I write one line and fit it all in phrase. But Edinburgh changes the context of where the man stands, no pun intended, at the end of the song. He is close to home, having made Halifax, but not quite to Sherbrooke. Why? Having had six years to get to Halifax, why did it take so long and why did he not make it home?
This vid was part of a series for the BBC (that has been reissued as part of the double DVD "A Vision of the Corries"). All of the songs on i5 seem to be a notch gentler (Mellow Corries?) so this may be why it is not as rousing as some of their earlier numbers. Still, it produced their best-ever version of Loch Lomond, a song that was meant to be sung that way.
I miss the Corries's TV series (from the late 60's/70's) when the BBC broadcast it down south in London. No such Scottish culture here on TV any more !
It would be nice if the BBC Scotland would release the shows on DVD. Maybe if the BBC was asked nicely to do it they might take the hint. If not tell them that 1000 beginning bagpipe students will be having daily practice at the front door and over by the studios.
My opinion, the Stan Rogers version is superior in that he properly conveys the anger I believe is being expressed in the lyrics of the song. That being said, this is by no means a poor performance. I would expect no less from 2 excellent musicians as the Corries. One could interpret their softer version as a more sorrowful lament as opposed to an angry one.
The Corries do a fine job on this, but I would guess that 98% of the fans of this song if given only one choice would go for the Stan Rogers version. I bet it's move than 50/50 even on this CZcams of the Corries.
Sweet mercy, im sure these guys are talented but this is supposed to be a tankard swilling, shout it out sea shanty! These guys sing it like they are performing for geriatrics, check out Stan Rodgers for the origional version the way it was supposed to be sung.
@kimmysco Whatever the man who wrote it has to say applies only to people who like his version. He wrote it; he can't determine how another artist will perform it. Listen, kimmysco, to each his/her own, right? If you like the power of Stan Rogers's original, by all means listen to that one. I prefer the care and beauty of the Corries' version.
The number of comments about this tune is a tribute to Stan Rogers' song. In my opinion the Corries are one of the best folk groups ever. This is not one of their best covers however ... but they're such great musicians that it virtually impossible for them to do something poorly. However this particular version using Edinburgh instead of Sherbrook is an insult to the Scottish people. Surely the Corries didn't think that the Scotts would be offended by a song about Canada. What did they think? Should the folk of North American sing Scottish songs and sub into them our own place names?
Seems kind of silly singing Edinburgh instead of Sherbrook, though I don't know why it would be an insult to the Scottish people. I heard that the Corries defended changing the name by saying a lot of Barrett's men were Scottish and that's what they would have felt. To the American folk song Shenandoah they added a reference to Caledonia - far away from West Virginia - or it could have been taken from another version Roy picked up somewhere. I never heard those lyrics in an American version, but they sound nice just the same. With folk songs you can never be sure - in contrast to a song whose author is known. There is no video of their Shenandoah, or at least I haven't found one. I've been wanting to make my own but still waiting for a friend to send me photos from her Shenandoah holiday.
"Barrett's men"? It's a made-up story. But: Halifax, 1778? I believe the population was more English than anything else. As for Sherbrooke - as far as I can tell, it didn't exist under that name in 1778. So - you can put whoever you want on the Antelope ... !
The real reason they had to change some of the lyrics to this song was copyright, This song has been covered by many artists all with their own style, It’s never a good thing to just blindly copy a song sung by the original artist and try to sing it in there style, This is Why we have so many songs even today that are sung by modern artists that have been sung by many other artists going back many decades
@beckels89 @beckels89 it is not meant to be sung like a a lullaby to a baby . it is meant to be sung like this below !! this is such a bad version . the fact that they change the lyrics is one thing . From Halifax CANADA to SCOTLAND it makes no sense at all look at what the man who wrote it has to say !
BBC, I 'd normally say English BBC, no longer...anything but British...As the Corries would say "c'mon join us" in an Independent Scotland...morris dancing et al
@kimmysco did it ever occur to you that most of the crews of privateers were either scotish or irish and the corries meant no disrespect to the original, when they do a cover they always attributed it to the song writer, they merely adapted it for a scotish audience
@TANTRIK21 take it your not Canadian! @sechs1983 i can see were you comming from but im true to the man !@ endora60 yes you are right in a way and i do see what your saying .
@beckels89 you don't sing it with a guitar , and they changed the lyrics as well . sounds so lame and really not good at all ..it sounds more like a lullaby that you would sing to a baby ! blahh
Kenny Chaffin Because there were mostly Scottish immigrants in nova Scotia (new Scotland) so they change it so they can portray a longing feeling for a Scottish immigrants home, in this case, Edinburgh.
That would be why they said he was on a pier in Halifax. In 1778 the war of independence was still happening so a lot of the privateers where from or doing work for the British empire. Doing your own version of a song you relate to or feel something for is a folk tradition. Dumb encompasses people with your attitude, when's the last time you made something ?
These men were the best of friends, and it show in this video. Proof that your brothers aren't always related by family.
Love the history of this most pleasant duo. Let us never forget for good or bad. All men have done throughout time. Just loved it. Thank you. 👍
Stan's vocal's could shake mountain's! His (Northwest Passage) song for Captain John Franklin is impressive!
I'm in Sherbrooke right now, but kinda wish I was in Edinburgh instead..
Hey Sparkie! I was in Sherbrooke for the first time a couple years ago & I thought it was magical. Driving down from Montreal past forests full of big trees and every one was a totally different tree. Amazed me. Mind you, Edinborough must be beautiful too. Like the man said, wherever you go, there you are.
A very funny comment -- thanks!
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Sherbrooke Nova Scotia, not Quebec
I agree that Stan Rogers's version is the best, but I love hearing The Corries sing it :)
Stan's version. Since he wrote the song, I suppose that's one way to describe it.
Whoa!
I hear this tune pretty much every day,but Stan Rogers...
I had no Idea the Corries did this...
GREAT!
The corries were on another level.
when performers cover other musicians it is because they appreciate the song. But they will do it in their own style. So chill and get over it.
Not many musicians have the balls to cover this epic Stan Rogers song. I say _Well done, Corries._
They just don't get better than this!!
I want the Real McKenzies version of this song! They performed it live in Amsterdam as an opening to their gig, it was AWESOME! Paul McKenzies voice is so right for this song!
Yeah. Amsterdam. That's where you'll get an authentic version of a Cape Breton songwriter's song about Halifax Nova Scotia.
Shake your head.
There is only one legitimate version.
czcams.com/video/B6Nl3PaTimA/video.html
This one is crap.
I like the Cories a lot, but they have gentle sweetness that doesn't quite convey the anger of a guy who's lost both legs and six years of his life to a stupid misadventure. Stan's version is not as pretty, but a lot stronger.
This is not the soul of the story. Not even that good to be honest.
agreed. it does not encapsulate the bitterness that would have set in.
Interesting observation. I've been listening to them for five years now and your statement makes me want to listen to other artists singing this song.
I believe this verison is more of the sadness and regret kind. Like after years of anger
@@FixNewsPlease Disappointing performance from a usually brilliant duo. Boring chords, lacklustre singing, no real feeling for the song.
I really enjoy the fact that they did so many tv appearances in small settings. It really captures the moment.
BBC studios!
They're frauds...completely misrepresenting the story and the lyrics. It's garbage.
Fix News get a grip of yourself you absolute fanny.
best version I've ever heard
Paul Jones Your A Idiot. !!!
Nice mod where Edinborough substitutes for Sherbrook, NS, Canada. Of course this version also refers probably to Halifax, UK instead of Halifax, NS.
Probably not, since Halifax UK is something like 50 miles from the sea! 😉
This is just wonderful, firefly!
A real treat for me - "live"
Splendid!
Many thanks for posting!
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love the corries!
I can't believe the people taking offense to the lyric change for national reasons! Let me point a few things out! Sherbrooke and Halifax are both located in the province of Nova Scotia. Nova Scotia is latin for New Scotland. In the late 1700's, Nova Scotia was heavily settled by Scots and to this day, is the largest single ethnic heritage most people identify as! In the 1800's more people spoke Gaelic then English! Gaelic is still spoken there to this day, and is even the first language for many! It's no stretch of reality that a man on a Halifax pier in 1784 was homesick for Scotland! That said, I don't believe most people are upset about substituting a Scottish location into the song, they're upset because there are just too many damn syllables in Edinburgh! I know better, but it sounds like a mockery is being made of the song. Put Glasgow in there instead and I bet 99% of the bitching would have never happened!
There are other reasons to change words an in this video "Corries Interview Clancy Brothers & Tommy Makem" Does a very good job pointing it out.
czcams.com/video/pE3d7d_oA5A/video.html
I'm Half Scotish, Half Irish, born and raised in Nova Scotia.
Proud of my roots, but you'd get
" Tarred And Feathered In Nova Scotia for that Abortion,"
🍻🇨🇦😎
It is often common in folk songs played live to substitute different words that customize the song to the people playing it, to the location be played, etc. It can really add fun and make the audience feel like they are included in the performance. Talk to any folk musician or any musician and I think they would understand.
I was with you until you mentioned Glasgow!
@@JohnSmith-oe5kx for the sake of keeping the conversation going, sure adding a three syllable word might change the meter a little, but in this case, there is lots of time within the musical phrase for it. It does not seem rushed at all. Sometimes when writing a song, I write something down and want to cram it all in to one place because I write one line and fit it all in phrase.
But Edinburgh changes the context of where the man stands, no pun intended, at the end of the song. He is close to home, having made Halifax, but not quite to Sherbrooke. Why? Having had six years to get to Halifax, why did it take so long and why did he not make it home?
This vid was part of a series for the BBC (that has been reissued as part of the double DVD "A Vision of the Corries"). All of the songs on i5 seem to be a notch gentler (Mellow Corries?) so this may be why it is not as rousing as some of their earlier numbers. Still, it produced their best-ever version of Loch Lomond, a song that was meant to be sung that way.
I don't know if they ever did credit Stan for this. They called it Traditional on the one album I saw.
I miss the Corries's TV series (from the late 60's/70's) when the BBC broadcast it down south in London. No such Scottish culture here on TV any more !
It would be nice if the BBC Scotland would release the shows on DVD. Maybe if the BBC was asked nicely to do it they might take the hint. If not tell them that 1000 beginning bagpipe students will be having daily practice at the front door and over by the studios.
This was and insult to the story and the song. A DISGRACE.
@@FixNewsPlease calm yerself
My opinion, the Stan Rogers version is superior in that he properly conveys the anger I believe is being expressed in the lyrics of the song. That being said, this is by no means a poor performance. I would expect no less from 2 excellent musicians as the Corries. One could interpret their softer version as a more sorrowful lament as opposed to an angry one.
CthulhuRogers the crack must be good were you stay like either that or you're deaf as fuck the corries make this track.
zanders fave
The Corries do a fine job on this, but I would guess that 98% of the fans of this song if given only one choice would go for the Stan Rogers version. I bet it's move than 50/50 even on this CZcams of the Corries.
I prefer this Corries version, it is plenty strong enough....they do it perfectly.
That's your opinion, I love The Corries version.
Damn the Scottish Antelope is worse than the Sherbrooke one. 6 days instead 2 to catch the Yankee ship.
@JJJur Stan Rogers' version is not only the original but the best.
I love the Corries, but my favourite version of this song has to be The Real McKenzies.
Sweet mercy, im sure these guys are talented but this is supposed to be a tankard swilling, shout it out sea shanty! These guys sing it like they are performing for geriatrics, check out Stan Rodgers for the origional version the way it was supposed to be sung.
Edinburgh??? naughty lads!
@kimmysco Whatever the man who wrote it has to say applies only to people who like his version. He wrote it; he can't determine how another artist will perform it.
Listen, kimmysco, to each his/her own, right? If you like the power of Stan Rogers's original, by all means listen to that one. I prefer the care and beauty of the Corries' version.
This son was written by Stan Rogers so that he had a shanty the he could lead when jamming with the Friends of Fiddler's Green.
The number of comments about this tune is a tribute to Stan Rogers' song. In my opinion the Corries are one of the best folk groups ever. This is not one of their best covers however ... but they're such great musicians that it virtually impossible for them to do something poorly. However this particular version using Edinburgh instead of Sherbrook is an insult to the Scottish people. Surely the Corries didn't think that the Scotts would be offended by a song about Canada. What did they think? Should the folk of North American sing Scottish songs and sub into them our own place names?
theres about ten million civil war song be taking fae scotland and ireland then made north America
Seems kind of silly singing Edinburgh instead of Sherbrook, though I don't know why it would be an insult to the Scottish people. I heard that the Corries defended changing the name by saying a lot of Barrett's men were Scottish and that's what they would have felt. To the American folk song Shenandoah they added a reference to Caledonia - far away from West Virginia - or it could have been taken from another version Roy picked up somewhere. I never heard those lyrics in an American version, but they sound nice just the same. With folk songs you can never be sure - in contrast to a song whose author is known. There is no video of their Shenandoah, or at least I haven't found one. I've been wanting to make my own but still waiting for a friend to send me photos from her Shenandoah holiday.
Because at the time there were more Scottish than anything and this would portray the longing for home of a Scottish immigrant
"Barrett's men"? It's a made-up story. But: Halifax, 1778? I believe the population was more English than anything else. As for Sherbrooke - as far as I can tell, it didn't exist under that name in 1778. So - you can put whoever you want on the Antelope ... !
I believe it is quite common to change words in songs, especially folk songs to suit the performer's setting. I have seen it lots in years past.
The real reason they had to change some of the lyrics to this song was copyright, This song has been covered by many artists all with their own style, It’s never a good thing to just blindly copy a song sung by the original artist and try to sing it in there style, This is Why we have so many songs even today that are sung by modern artists that have been sung by many other artists going back many decades
@beckels89 @beckels89 it is not meant to be sung like a a lullaby to a baby . it is meant to be sung like this below !! this is such a bad version . the fact that they change the lyrics is one thing . From Halifax CANADA to SCOTLAND it makes no sense at all look at what the man who wrote it has to say !
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BBC, I 'd normally say English BBC, no longer...anything but British...As the Corries would say "c'mon join us" in an Independent Scotland...morris dancing et al
@kimmysco did it ever occur to you that most of the crews of privateers were either scotish or irish and the corries meant no disrespect to the original, when they do a cover they always attributed it to the song writer, they merely adapted it for a scotish audience
brilliant!
Garbage. Not even the same song. Bastardized. A disgrace.
ps: This is best sung the old way with maybe 5 guys and no instrument's.
@TANTRIK21 take it your not Canadian! @sechs1983 i can see were you comming from but im true to the man !@ endora60 yes you are right in a way and i do see what your saying .
I think they would make stan rogers proud with this version
I know this is a bit heretical, but I actually like the Corries' version better than the original.
Chords?
The Corries should not try thid tune. You can't duplicate the original.
+Richard Peddie Spot on Richard!!
You must be a total spazzy if you think the original is better than this like
Definitely not in this case :-(
@beckels89 you don't sing it with a guitar , and they changed the lyrics as well . sounds so lame and really not good at all ..it sounds more like a lullaby that you would sing to a baby ! blahh
Yeah stan rodgers the gaberlunzie also covered this sond
Stan Rogers wrote this song.
Covered. Covered,
He wrote it.
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edinburgh my ass its sherbrooke...way to ruin my fave song
LOL! I can understand the rage though. Not sure why they would change it.
Go listen to the original then.
Kenny Chaffin Because there were mostly Scottish immigrants in nova Scotia (new Scotland) so they change it so they can portray a longing feeling for a Scottish immigrants home, in this case, Edinburgh.
good voices. probably realy talented guys but stay away from stan's music please.
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AHH they ruined it !!!
There were never privateers cruising the seas for American gold in Scotland. What a dumb cover.
@@VCR45 You're getting pretty shook up. Calm down. lol
@@VCR45 aH aH
That would be why they said he was on a pier in Halifax. In 1778 the war of independence was still happening so a lot of the privateers where from or doing work for the British empire.
Doing your own version of a song you relate to or feel something for is a folk tradition.
Dumb encompasses people with your attitude, when's the last time you made something ?