Could Dennis Rodman Play In Today's NBA? | TICKET & THE TRUTH

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  • On the latest TICKET & THE TRUTH, Kevin Garnett & Paul Pierce have an intense debate on whether Dennis Rodman could have played in today's NBA.
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  • @elvisrsocias516
    @elvisrsocias516 Před 3 měsíci +2131

    If Ben Simmons can play...Rodman can play. If Draymond can play....Rodman can play.

    • @nanagyambibi7426
      @nanagyambibi7426 Před 3 měsíci +257

      he does not have the facilitating skills that Simmons and Draymond have.

    • @dreamchaser1419
      @dreamchaser1419 Před 3 měsíci +123

      @@nanagyambibi7426 Neither one of them had the motor rodman had. 15-17 draymond at his best maybe could compete with rodman but rodman was the same dude his whole career his job was just easier as he hopped around to better teams.

    • @dreamchaser1419
      @dreamchaser1419 Před 3 měsíci +80

      @@nanagyambibi7426 Rodmans mind and iq was also out this world. How he would study different shots and different guy's tendencies whether thats physically or mentally and go out and exploit whatever.

    • @SeekingTheTruth1
      @SeekingTheTruth1 Před 3 měsíci +89

      Simmons & Draymond are light years ahead offensively. They look bad bcuz of everyone else they’re playing with. He would be unplayable. He couldn’t score against a generation of much lower skill & athletic ability.

    • @iampioneer81
      @iampioneer81 Před 3 měsíci +99

      So you guys are saying a HOF and 5 time champ couldn't figure out how to be effective in today's game? But the same people say MJ would average 45 today even though he couldn't shoot 3's??? It doesn't make sense.

  • @starttheconvopod
    @starttheconvopod Před 3 měsíci +441

    KG will always keep the old school legacies alive.

    • @frank-ko6de
      @frank-ko6de Před 3 měsíci +15

      knowing your history is so important.

    • @MegaDAli95
      @MegaDAli95 Před 3 měsíci +11

      As he should. It’s the only way to fight recency bias!

    • @renzopeterson153
      @renzopeterson153 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Probably because he played in both era's, he's literally seen it all in the game. KG was a few years in front of Magic and Bird retiring.

    • @TylerHingleton
      @TylerHingleton Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@MegaDAli95 There's bias in every generation, past or present

    • @MegaDAli95
      @MegaDAli95 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@TylerHingleton Agreed, but I'm talking about recency bias specifically

  • @jimo6296
    @jimo6296 Před 3 měsíci +309

    The Worm can get under anyone’s skin in any era . KG is the ultimate analyst for this topic.

    • @joebidens_touchyhands9477
      @joebidens_touchyhands9477 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Rodman on LeBron would be like Dillion Brooks x 5.

    • @ninjachannel007
      @ninjachannel007 Před 2 měsíci

      Stating the obvious makes him the ultimate analyst?

    • @harborwolf22
      @harborwolf22 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@ninjachannel007Well, the question was asked so apparently it's not that obvious.
      And Garnett explained it with passion and insight.
      Why are you an asshole?

  • @chriskasowski4743
    @chriskasowski4743 Před 2 měsíci +133

    I could listen to KG talk about anything for any amount of time. The absolute most entertaining character ever.

    • @sebu1301
      @sebu1301 Před 2 měsíci +3

      He's energetic for sure. After a while a character like that can get a tad annoying though

    • @MoralesCorner
      @MoralesCorner Před měsícem

      A bit of a stretch isn't it

    • @BluntVille
      @BluntVille Před 21 dnem +1

      Rodamn makes Dreey Green look like mickey mouse lmaoo

  • @DAYDAY211
    @DAYDAY211 Před 3 měsíci +711

    Rodman was guarding 1-5 back then. He would do that today with ease.

    • @aubhreypender3091
      @aubhreypender3091 Před 3 měsíci +60

      Why would it be easy? Guarding a guard now vs then is night and day. Rodman was guarding guards who dribbled the ball up the court with their back to the basket.

    • @jaylebron777
      @jaylebron777 Před 3 měsíci +7

      That's what I'm saying.. these moves today tho are magical. He'd need to adjust but ya Rodman would be a spectacle to watch ha

    • @dreamchaser1419
      @dreamchaser1419 Před 3 měsíci +16

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@aubhreypender3091You also gotta remember the league is moving back toward a traditional type remix. Teams want bigger at every position now. You have 6'6-6'9 pgs now. Franz, scottie barnes, luka, cade, shai, sochan, etc. And thats if they even need a point cuz if you got bron, kd, tatum, pg, jimmy, or giannis, embiid they runnin point just by default. Most of those dudes you would want pistons rodman with that matchup.

    • @keenenbenton9843
      @keenenbenton9843 Před 3 měsíci +15

      Not just that but something no one has mentioned yet Dennis brain is the reason he’d thrive today.. not only would he out work guys today who don’t won’t to do the dirty work like rebounding but he was so smart and had a high basketball IQ minus the antics of getting himself ejected.. he would study each players shots and watch how each players balls would bounce off the rim when they missed. Some guys would miss and it would go long others would miss and it would bounce up etc etc.. so he’d know how to position based off who shot it

    • @BoskoShabazz
      @BoskoShabazz Před 3 měsíci +1

      Definitely wouldn’t be easy cause he wouldn’t be able to put hands on anybody so he would have to adjust his entire guarding technique

  • @Lootroq
    @Lootroq Před 3 měsíci +277

    I would pay to see a KG Rodman interview

    • @rafaelraad555
      @rafaelraad555 Před 3 měsíci +8

      I second that!

    • @ZacArriaga
      @ZacArriaga Před 3 měsíci +4

      maaaan I was just thinking about this when watching the video lol

    • @MrDarkNutz
      @MrDarkNutz Před 3 měsíci

      Ngl I’ll just wait til it hit YT 💪🏾😂

    • @bigbaltimore
      @bigbaltimore Před měsícem

      Rs

  • @shimoda3339
    @shimoda3339 Před 3 měsíci +39

    Rodman was an amazing BEAST!
    I feel honored to have been able to watch him play in the 90’s.

  • @thuaners
    @thuaners Před 3 měsíci +46

    love hearing KG talk about him. I remember watching The Last Dance and MJ talking about the practice where the team was running in a circle and the guy at the back has to overtake the guy in the front and no one could catch Dennis ahah! You know youre impressive when you have MJs respect!

    • @markcarey67
      @markcarey67 Před 7 hodinami +1

      He was an otherworldly athletic freak and also used to run on the treadmill and work out AFTER games, so his physical limit of exertion would be longer than the game itself so he would still be able to go flat out in the 4th quarter

  • @Phoenix-nl2ut
    @Phoenix-nl2ut Před 3 měsíci +349

    Rodman is today’s center. Pick and roll and dunk. Worm explaining the triangle is thing of beauty

    • @goldteethpoohproductions2707
      @goldteethpoohproductions2707 Před 3 měsíci +5

      The guy in San Antonio kinda plays like him the guy that wears number 10

    • @christophermoody6840
      @christophermoody6840 Před 3 měsíci +7

      I'm pretty sure that was the number Rodman wore when he was in San Antonio, too. You're talking about Jermey Sochan or something...

    • @chrisyoung1720
      @chrisyoung1720 Před 3 měsíci +9

      Rodman was an excellent perimeter defender, ppl forget his Detroit days.

    • @LaMar34_34
      @LaMar34_34 Před 3 měsíci

      What center today is 6’6?

    • @Phoenix-nl2ut
      @Phoenix-nl2ut Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@LaMar34_34 draymond pj tucker bam is 6’9” but Rodman was guarding shaq so I guess Rodman didn’t have a position.

  • @Mr.Oct___
    @Mr.Oct___ Před 3 měsíci +193

    That Rodman thumbnail is almost as iconic as any image we've ever seen in the league.

    • @GFelix-jm4jj
      @GFelix-jm4jj Před 3 měsíci +4

      I always tell ppl mike is mad over rated. His defense is the most over rated part

    • @TheRealTurkFebruary
      @TheRealTurkFebruary Před 3 měsíci

      Petition to make it the new logo.

    • @Mr.Oct___
      @Mr.Oct___ Před 3 měsíci +12

      @GFelix-jm4jj Sir, please knock it tf off...You do know that we have 100's of game footage to prove this statement wrong...Mike was a lockdown defender & the best perimeter defender in league history. Just stop. Every game he played in his 1st two stints, he was the best offensive ANNND defensive player on the floor. There was absolutely NOTHING overrated about his game.

    • @ameereduff
      @ameereduff Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@GFelix-jm4jjhow old are you bro?

    • @ItIsYouAreNotYour
      @ItIsYouAreNotYour Před 3 měsíci +3

      If Draymond Green can get a starting role. Dennis can.

  • @mallygeedkm
    @mallygeedkm Před 3 měsíci +84

    The more I listen to KG I’m convinced he has a mind for this game. He’s not just a great athlete but he put time into watching tape, strength & conditioning, matchups, offensive & defensive play calling etc…I respect 🫡 it

    • @NA1c158
      @NA1c158 Před 3 měsíci +6

      His ring was well earned, and overdue.

    • @kjo8970
      @kjo8970 Před 3 měsíci +5

      KG was wrong in this one. He just knows how to sell his point.
      He talks about how physical Rodman was and how he would toss you but that would just buy him a foul and maybe a tech in this game. He acted like Rodman would hit threes every now and then to show you he can but look at his 3 pt % that was a super bad take.
      Paul was right maybe he would learn to play today but as he was no team would have him. Even Draymond who everyone keeps talking about for some reason is a completely different player.

    • @Basketball_Debate
      @Basketball_Debate Před 2 měsíci

      Agreed 💯

    • @RebellWiithPze
      @RebellWiithPze Před 2 měsíci

      I can see KG coaching. The amount of game he has to give and his ability to attract, hold attention and be relatable would go far.

    • @justmedrea4361
      @justmedrea4361 Před 2 měsíci

      It also helps that he’d just recently retired; therefore he’s still familiar with the NEW game.

  • @theaquariancontrarian3316
    @theaquariancontrarian3316 Před 3 měsíci +16

    Damn i miss 80s and 90s basketball

  • @lanagorgeous9485
    @lanagorgeous9485 Před 3 měsíci +200

    KG spittin FACTS. The Rodman of the late 90's may have sacrificed offense and why not with Jordan as a team mate, but the Pistons Bad Boy Rodman, OMG, he'd be a terror in the league today!

    • @iwritechecksatthegrocerystore
      @iwritechecksatthegrocerystore Před 3 měsíci +8

      Exactly. I mean we already KNOW they went to Dennis specifically to get his defense/rebounds, Phil, Mike, Scotty and Dennis are all on record saying this. 😂 so yea, team player like that? He could play in any era.

    • @ZacArriaga
      @ZacArriaga Před 3 měsíci +3

      exactly bro! people forget how offensive rodman could be and was with the pistons

    • @roguewookiee
      @roguewookiee Před 3 měsíci +4

      He was wrong about one thing though...Rodman got 49 rebounds over a 2 game stretch not in one game 😅

    • @baazbana
      @baazbana Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@roguewookiee That’s still a shit load of rebounds though bro 😂

    • @roguewookiee
      @roguewookiee Před 3 měsíci

      @@baazbana absolutely, but 49 is Wilt and Russell territory

  • @0j00n
    @0j00n Před 3 měsíci +131

    rodman career high rebounds 34 rebounds still amazing. funfact he also had 7 straight rebounding titles in the 90s

    • @clayc5929
      @clayc5929 Před 3 měsíci +2

      I was stunned I couldn’t find highlights so I had to come back lol

    • @khadafi31
      @khadafi31 Před 2 měsíci

      Besides Denis was a good shooter in high school. If I good remember he had more then 25 points per game.
      Real Monster.
      Chicago Bulls it was my team when I was a kid and Pippen is my favorite player.

  • @thelaststarfighter1984
    @thelaststarfighter1984 Před 3 měsíci +11

    Man, every time I hear KG tell stories he’s so passionate.
    When the current TNT NBA crew retires, he’s the first player that comes to mind as a replacement (if he wants to do it). May be a little to raw for prime time but hell I’d tune in 😂

  • @madhatterrx7
    @madhatterrx7 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Enjoyed their conversation and respect.

  • @essentialrespect3358
    @essentialrespect3358 Před 3 měsíci +177

    The treadmill story is insane, Rodman on a different level 💯

    • @baazbana
      @baazbana Před 3 měsíci +17

      I laugh every time kids today say that Jordan played with grocery baggers. Dudes were hella jacked in the 90’s and athletic as hell. Dennis Rodman was jacked and his conditioning was off the charts.

    • @essentialrespect3358
      @essentialrespect3358 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@baazbana yes indeed! I agree

    • @PurpleMonkeyDishwasher88
      @PurpleMonkeyDishwasher88 Před 3 měsíci +7

      @@baazbana Kids talking like the 1990s was the 40s or 50s NBA.

    • @younghannibal7434
      @younghannibal7434 Před měsícem

      I know right

    • @conchobar
      @conchobar Před 22 dny

      Numerous former players have said that Rodman ran on a treadmill after games. Then dude would go clubbing after that.

  • @sweetyd
    @sweetyd Před 3 měsíci +212

    He had 49 rebounds in 2 games, not 1. His personal record is 34 rebounds in 1 game, against the Pacers on March 4, 1992.

  • @charlieterzano4833
    @charlieterzano4833 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Love the respect in this interview

  • @Lo-236
    @Lo-236 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Bro Dennis Rodman was an absolute monster, he would be perfect in todays small ball lineup, he could catch and finish lions/dunks/layups and defend/rebound against anybody. His value on defense/rebounding would more than make up for his shooting

    • @markcarey67
      @markcarey67 Před 7 hodinami

      I also think he would have been able to learn to shoot - I don't think he had any of the mental blocks that would get in the way of him improving that side of his game like a Shaq or Ben Simmons it's just that when you play alongside Michael Jordan that is not what you are being called upon to get better at - Draymond was actually a really good shooter early in his career - and he picked his 3 % back up this season but when KD joined the Dubs there was no reason for him to be shooting

  • @FromTheHipp
    @FromTheHipp Před 3 měsíci +160

    man i still dont understand how people never mention his passing. Worm threw dots. outlet pass dots. halfcourt set dots. always in the scoring pocket too. his transition game was insane. he'd get a board outlet to the wing and then beat everybody up the floor for the layup if the pass was made. he would have outworked everybody in this era alone.
    "worm hit a 3 every now and then just to let you know he could shoot" thats absolutely it. KG gets it. KG knows ball 100%.

    • @theoakman80
      @theoakman80 Před 3 měsíci +8

      also threw passes from the post, cross court, under the hoop, out to the three. One of the top 5 passing PFs ever IMO.

    • @sideshowbobsaget8876
      @sideshowbobsaget8876 Před 3 měsíci +4

      ​@@theoakman80definitely not top 5 but very capable

    • @FromTheHipp
      @FromTheHipp Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@theoakman80 you get it

    • @EriktheRaids82D
      @EriktheRaids82D Před 3 měsíci +1

      Facts. 💯 They don't make them like they use to. Rodman a beast

    • @oryan404
      @oryan404 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Do you remember the story MJ told about Rodman after he came bac from Vegas during the finals?

  • @dkc402
    @dkc402 Před 3 měsíci +109

    Did Paul see Dennis play? Go watch Dennis with Detroit & in the triangle with Chicago. He was one of the best passing PFs in the league.

    • @wolfchrt
      @wolfchrt Před 3 měsíci +4

      I mean… dude played against him

    • @ZacArriaga
      @ZacArriaga Před 3 měsíci +24

      Paul is just a hater bro! lol i wants to be or have the last comment trying to prove his point and be right about it lol

    • @Andrew-yc2uq
      @Andrew-yc2uq Před 3 měsíci

      Paul Peirce is a jack-ass

    • @sirhoopalot1
      @sirhoopalot1 Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@wolfchrt Pierce played exactly one game against Rodman and it was Rodman's last year in the NBA with the Mavs. Rodman had 16 rebounds that game, btw.

    • @intriguedSTYLE
      @intriguedSTYLE Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@sirhoopalot1this is crazy lmao

  • @BeWise4Life
    @BeWise4Life Před 2 měsíci +2

    I’m reminded of the interview where he broke down the mathematics of rebounds based on how many turns of the ball, angle, and how each player individually shot. His conditioning was crazy.

  • @user-tw5my2vx1d
    @user-tw5my2vx1d Před 3 měsíci +4

    He was a workout monster. Kevin Garnett is not the first guy to talk about him doing really intense workouts after playing 40 minutes in games .You have to remember in Detroit he scored a little more, but in his later career the teams he was on it wasn't as necessary for him to be such an active part of the offense. He was more a pure defensive anchor and rebounder because that's what the teams he played for asked him to do. I think that he started to check out more mentally in the last chapter of his career as well. But I think he would have adjusted the way he played if you were in this era. Fitness is such an important weapon in in basketball and he was one of the most fit players in terms of endurance stamina and pound-for-pound strength. I feel like because of Michael jordan, not to take anything away from Jordan, but we over rate players who score more points. But everywhere Rodman win championships followed, and he was an important part of every single one of those championships. Two in detroit, 3 in Chicago. He was like a modern day Bill Russell. Intensity, tenacity , how hard a guy will fight you for it are are super important for winning on the court. That's why I'm in Jordan got along , because they were both tenacious, they were both intense, they were both Fighters . And also , intensity tenacity fighting for it don't show up on the stat sheet, until you're counting rings. Remember that when you talk about Bill Russell too

  • @remidibeatz8780
    @remidibeatz8780 Před 3 měsíci +125

    KG said combat boots and the treadmill was lookin at the ceiling😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Hilarious 😂

  • @jmcgee39
    @jmcgee39 Před 3 měsíci +348

    Lot of people don't know that Dennis Rodman came into the NBA as a scorer but chose to put the team ahead of his own needs which resulted in 5 rings.

    • @ILoveTheAllCreator
      @ILoveTheAllCreator Před 3 měsíci +26

      Word! He would spend his time practicing rebounds

    • @nmr20067
      @nmr20067 Před 3 měsíci +36

      Exactly. He actually could score and shoot 3s when he wanted to. The videos are on here for those that don’t believe it.. Just because he was not asked to do it, doesn’t mean he could not do it…

    • @DynoGreen313
      @DynoGreen313 Před 3 měsíci +21

      he was never a scorer in the nba, but he did score more with detroit than with san antonio and the bull

    • @vp2880
      @vp2880 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Facts!

    • @waltjones6927
      @waltjones6927 Před 3 měsíci +16

      You a damn liar 😂😂 Dennis ain't never been good on offense

  • @henryzhao4622
    @henryzhao4622 Před 3 měsíci +10

    He would single-handedly force the opposite team to put a big in, a real big

  • @DLadd
    @DLadd Před 3 měsíci +69

    Rodmans passing game is underrated

    • @poindextertunes
      @poindextertunes Před 3 měsíci +5

      the whole rest of his game outside of defense and rebounding is underrated 💯

    • @ehrenthompson7891
      @ehrenthompson7891 Před 3 měsíci +6

      MJ said Rodman was one of the smartest players he ever played with or against.

  • @finerbiner
    @finerbiner Před 3 měsíci +51

    Most underrated part of the 2nd threepeat team was that in Jordan, Pip, Harp and the worm, there has never been a team that could play defense on their level.

    • @thequixoticangler3364
      @thequixoticangler3364 Před 3 měsíci +1

      They beat a team 78-49 or something like that once in the playoffs. Can't remember who. The bulls had 50+ at halftime. They were so good on defense they could invoke their own mercy rule. They'd just stop scoring because they DIDN'T HAVE TO.

    • @_.Jon._
      @_.Jon._ Před 14 dny +1

      They were the 2nd oldest team in the league, too.

  • @kheaden1
    @kheaden1 Před 3 měsíci +9

    I love KG Speak, it's hilarious but speaks facts

  • @misterg2201
    @misterg2201 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Rodman's basketball IQ was insanely high
    One of the greatest rebounders of all time

  • @YusufNijeha.EWWNAJ
    @YusufNijeha.EWWNAJ Před 3 měsíci +152

    Kg funnier than most stand up comedians

    • @USCfan03
      @USCfan03 Před 3 měsíci +5

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jinjxmusic
    @jinjxmusic Před 3 měsíci +118

    I respect what Paul's saying... though I'd encourage people to check out Dennis particularly in the mid 90s with The Bulls. Anytime that MJ or Scottie or one of the wings had an "off" night you'd see it: Dennis would start shooting. Even threes. He was very mindful about "balance" and if the offense was cooking he'd chill... if they needed help he'd start putting them up. I believe that, if Dennis had wanted to, he could have put up 15 a game... but between Joe, Zeke, and Vinnie - between Sean Elliot and David - between MJ, Pip, and Ron Harper this guy knew that what they NEEDED was a guy that could guard 3, 4, and 5 on all of those teams: not another person fighting for offensive touches.

    • @thequixoticangler3364
      @thequixoticangler3364 Před 3 měsíci +12

      He scored 40+ ppg in his final year in college. He was a monster scorer. You'd see it when you needed to. He could've dropped 20+ a night if he was on a team where he was the first option.

    • @Zebollas91
      @Zebollas91 Před 3 měsíci +16

      Dennis rodman is the only person to ever hold Shaq to 0 points, no center or power forward is more powerful people need to just stop the disrespect. that is prime Shaq, big diesel, superman czcams.com/video/89IQcTPHkRs/video.html

    • @sloaiza81
      @sloaiza81 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Well said. Rodman knew when to step it up. Rodman should have been the finals MVP vs the Sonics. MJ wasn't having the greatest series and the games were tough, but Rodman made the plays in the most critical moments of that series. His IQ for the game was off the charts. He had the ability to change a game, solo, without scoring. It's unique. That being said, todays game has that rule where you have to let people run around without touching them, hand checking is out, fouls are called for everything, refs are biased drama queen manipulating tyrants, and offense/defense is run completely different. Players travel all the time and they don't even box out... It's made for kids. Its made to sell. It's a different game. Same name, but different game.

    • @Matt-zp1jn
      @Matt-zp1jn Před 3 měsíci

      Also Pippen deserved the ‘98 Playoff MVP for his overall playoff prowess, The Finals too!
      MJ only deserved the middle one imo.
      Rodman, MJ, Pip.

    • @LeaFarNas802
      @LeaFarNas802 Před 3 měsíci +1

      well said..seen the worm outwork even MJ (if partying is greater than gambling) context..BULLS ON PARADE! 🏀🎸

  • @ThatGuyFromThatThing360
    @ThatGuyFromThatThing360 Před měsícem +6

    the ending was a mic drop. "we played 43 minutes and after the game dennis rodeman was running full speed on a incline treadmill in combat boots having a casual conversation with me". enough said.

  • @fortunateson2
    @fortunateson2 Před 3 měsíci +5

    "I saw his super power, he was sittin there telling me" 😂😂😂

  • @iProvidings
    @iProvidings Před 3 měsíci +37

    Worm made rebounding a science. He's 100% adjusting to today's game.

    • @demonNthesn0w
      @demonNthesn0w Před 3 měsíci +1

      Any great player would be able to make the change imo

  • @skamatics661
    @skamatics661 Před 3 měsíci +138

    lmao KG theatrics be killing me

    • @grizzlymac-tight
      @grizzlymac-tight Před 3 měsíci

      "Open 3somes 4somes orgy parties" 😂😂😂

    • @frank-ko6de
      @frank-ko6de Před 3 měsíci +9

      dude has a crazy analytical mind, while Paul Pierce is a literally dummy.

    • @thecarter8700
      @thecarter8700 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@frank-ko6dePaul is not a dummy
      Plz stop this

    • @kevinshady4627
      @kevinshady4627 Před 3 měsíci

      He’s a mime wth

    • @JohnnytNatural
      @JohnnytNatural Před 3 měsíci +1

      Paul Pierce just taking a different angle, you can't have everyone saying the same thing

  • @rockutron9000
    @rockutron9000 Před 2 měsíci +1

    That Dennis Rodman treadmill story is an instant classic.

  • @lancesims8627
    @lancesims8627 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I dont even like basketball like that but i could listen to KG talk basketball all day

  • @rodneyturnerphoto
    @rodneyturnerphoto Před 3 měsíci +66

    Rodman with the Pistons was great as well.

    • @ZacArriaga
      @ZacArriaga Před 3 měsíci

      yes sir! people forget about piston's rodman just because he sacrificed his offence having jordan and pippen on the team.

    • @HIMCULES
      @HIMCULES Před 3 měsíci +1

      Rodman had 34 points in a game with the Pistons, Pierce is trippin..

    • @mufugginKing
      @mufugginKing Před 3 měsíci

      Pistons worm used to score especially in transition

  • @chiefgangmusic
    @chiefgangmusic Před 3 měsíci +52

    Rodman is top 5 all time defensively. Defense translate in any era. Anyone on that list can play in any era. Plus Rodman made up for his lack of scoring through his opps lack of scoring and his offensive rebounding giving the his team numerous 2nd chance opportunities.

    • @tebandulin5637
      @tebandulin5637 Před 2 měsíci +5

      People forget he was scoring during his time for the Pistons. With his motor he will out work his opponents.

    • @chiefgangmusic
      @chiefgangmusic Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@tebandulin5637 Idk if you ever heard John Salley tell the story of how they spent their allstar breaks early in their careers. Sal said he couldn’t wait to go to Atlanta and try to get as many women as possible while Dennis went back to Dallas to castrate 300 calves. He would jump off his horse and tackle the calves and hold them steady while ✂️ 🥜 HeII, playing defense in the NBA was easy to him compared to his early days on the farm. Just a different breed.

  • @03carlito03
    @03carlito03 Před 3 měsíci +3

    KG keeping it 100 about Rodman. If you go based on skills Rodman will do it big. Guarding bigs on 3 point line would be so easy for him.

  • @scimbrelo
    @scimbrelo Před 2 měsíci +1

    to me the most important piece that was said here: the offensive rebounds and the points that translates into + the style of rebounding. he wasnt just waiting under the basket for easy ones, he would CREATE offensive rebounds that otherwise wouldnt have existed, which effectively saves a turnover.
    to me that would be his biggest contribution to offense. he'd also probably have decent assist or decent hockey assist numbers. his +/- would most likely be quite good in todays game i think

  • @abduljere1016
    @abduljere1016 Před 3 měsíci +97

    Zaza caught a stray

  • @ducksseason
    @ducksseason Před 3 měsíci +32

    correction, 49 rebounds in two game back to back. His highest single game was 34 rebounds.

    • @jackdempsey2497
      @jackdempsey2497 Před 3 měsíci +5

      34… goddamn…

    • @jeffwilliams2828
      @jeffwilliams2828 Před 3 měsíci

      His dream/goal was to get 40 rebounds in one game. He said something like “if i get 40, im gonna take off my jersey and retire. That’s my dream way to leave the game.”

  • @elvertmack5039
    @elvertmack5039 Před 3 měsíci +11

    The problem is...people only see Rodman with the Bulls. When he was with San Antino his numbers were crazy, he's was a 20/30/10 player. But when he got with Bulls all he had to do was rebound.

    • @antoinetaylor33
      @antoinetaylor33 Před 27 dny

      Rebounding about right but not points and assists

  • @PlantMoreTrees9
    @PlantMoreTrees9 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Rodman was a monster! Loved watching him play, his energy was next level, always entertaining to see❤

  • @Rumble225-qe7fy
    @Rumble225-qe7fy Před 3 měsíci +30

    People have absolutely no vision to team success if they think Rodman couldn’t play today. None of bigs today stand a chance against him on boards. U would get so many second chances points he’d pull a lot of offensive rebounds and tip ins.

  • @1DFWFOODIE
    @1DFWFOODIE Před 3 měsíci +158

    The story about him being in combat boots running on the treadmill 😂😂😂

    • @osas5211
      @osas5211 Před 3 měsíci +7

      He was fighting a war

    • @gabrieldinglasan
      @gabrieldinglasan Před 3 měsíci

      Timestamp please, i missed it

    • @Ascending11
      @Ascending11 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@gabrieldinglasan @ 7:35

    • @gabrieldinglasan
      @gabrieldinglasan Před 3 měsíci

      @@Ascending11 thanks man!

    • @gabrieldinglasan
      @gabrieldinglasan Před 3 měsíci

      @@6447myth KG was giving Rodman his flowers the whole time though, Pierce is the salty one 🤣

  • @truth4reel
    @truth4reel Před 2 měsíci +1

    During a game the commentary said that Dennis studied the way the trajectory of the shots and the way the ball bounces off the rim to predict where the ball would go. You could see it in the game that he was always poisoned as if he knew where the ball was gonna end up

  • @CSIStarbase
    @CSIStarbase Před 3 měsíci +4

    KG Is my favorite player to listen to.

  • @edscottable
    @edscottable Před 3 měsíci +105

    They stopped playing Kenneth Faried for no reason. Everybody is not gonna shoot like Steph. Somebody’s gotta be the hustler. So it’s not a matter of could Dennis do well, but a question of whether these analytics people would play him?

    • @TheMultiolddude
      @TheMultiolddude Před 3 měsíci +2

      Facts

    • @SMOOTHL33
      @SMOOTHL33 Před 3 měsíci +15

      Feel the same about montrez harrell. Faried is in a class of his own, that dude hustled!! Always had energy, never tired, kept playing. But harrell played his roll, would play in paint against centers + taller players, but couldnt get time on court but they'd put someone else in that role who was a perimiter player-all for "small ball" type lineup.
      Coaching has fell off heavily over the years too.

    • @johncoleman5128
      @johncoleman5128 Před 3 měsíci +6

      DON'T GET IT TWISTED, Dennis Rodman WOULD be a problem around the hoop on today's game. High IQ when it comes to rebounds and DEFENSE 💯💯💪🏾💪🏾LET'EM KNOW, KG

    • @KDogduval
      @KDogduval Před 3 měsíci +3

      That part🎯..Worm would out work most of these guys in todays game just like KG said. Worm's engine was on another level...he avgd about 13rpg BACK THEN. He'd avg close to 20rpg in todays WAY less physical league.

    • @parkermudsen1063
      @parkermudsen1063 Před 3 měsíci +6

      This analytics era is the worst. Almost all the emphasis is put on the numbers. And the game feels too calculated and soulless. No wonder so many people hate it now.

  • @sylence2012
    @sylence2012 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Dennis Rodman would frustrate any player in the league defensively and Rebounding. He had so much energy and quickness and didn’t mind sacrificing his body for his team.

  • @PapatotSports
    @PapatotSports Před měsícem

    Love this Rd Man Dude💪 Amazing👍

  • @habeshalij1845
    @habeshalij1845 Před 3 měsíci +6

    People not know but Rodman In three seasons college (1983-1986)
    he averaged 25.7 points and 15.7 rebounds, on 63.7 field goal percentage.

  • @FirstBallot7
    @FirstBallot7 Před 3 měsíci +32

    Paul Pierce trippin, how is a guy that gives u 110% everytime he's on the floor, defense player of the year type defense at his peak and was still solid out if his prime when helping the bulls run off another 3 peat, AND he's going to grab u 10-13 boards on average, 15-20 boards on a great night, and probably if it only 10 boards and not 15, at least 2 of those 10 are offensive rebounds/put backs! He's basically a rebounding freak with very solid to great Defense. Since did a HALL OF FAME type player become unplayable in ANY league??!! 🙄 I agree with everything KG said, 1000% on point!

    • @randyho8315
      @randyho8315 Před 3 měsíci

      He’s the prisoner of the moment. He forgot to analyze the actual NBA game

    • @mrtqtran
      @mrtqtran Před 2 měsíci

      I agree with y'all but P had a reasonable point. Everybody nowadays has to be able to stretch the floor... So I can kinda see that even though KG pointed out plenty of exceptions that were similar.

  • @therealisticmind4965
    @therealisticmind4965 Před 3 měsíci +50

    KG my ninja 🥷🏾 🤣😂 when he was talkn bout Zaza called him the big head ninja🤣🤣

  • @dennisking3638
    @dennisking3638 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I got tears in my eyes talking about the worm running up the incline on the treadmill 😂... Kevin you can tell a great story on Dennis Rodman👍

  • @Ocelot0095
    @Ocelot0095 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Now I gotta pull up some Worm highlight youtube vids and go down a "Wormhole"!

  • @siraajuddin736
    @siraajuddin736 Před 3 měsíci +51

    He is such a physical anomaly. Laterally quick, with Russ like energy and a winner’s mentality. I would hope that he could make the adjustments in the league today.

    • @jaylebron777
      @jaylebron777 Před 3 měsíci +2

      We need a Rodman in today's game but defense don't pay the bills. That African with the long arms ain't getting paid today. I forget his name

    • @jaylebron777
      @jaylebron777 Před 3 měsíci +2

      You said it. He's an anomaly lol

    • @dreamchaser1419
      @dreamchaser1419 Před 3 měsíci

      @@jaylebron777Defense does pay the bills tho lmao the best offensive guys just get paid more. Think about it every team and every front office want guys like og anunoby, bruce brown, caruso, derrick white, dillon brooks, etc. Guys that can help you win a championship, help conserve your stars and make their jobs 10x easier are valued more than anybody besides the stars.

    • @cyrilnwaguru
      @cyrilnwaguru Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@jaylebron777 if rudy gobert gets a max, Mutumbo woulda got the same. You trippin

    • @nickc874
      @nickc874 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Russ has the most overrated “energy” in the history of pro sports. Dude gives ZERO effort when he doesn’t have the ball and gets lost all the time on defense

  • @bigwill6974
    @bigwill6974 Před 3 měsíci +30

    Even if he played today identically to the way he played back then, you couldn’t just leave him because he’s gonna get another offensive possession for the team; you had to keep a body on him.

    • @aarona222
      @aarona222 Před 3 měsíci +11

      ...and that possession is very likely to be worth 3 points today

    • @derrickwilliams1181
      @derrickwilliams1181 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Best analysis

    • @NoName-cn3cp
      @NoName-cn3cp Před 3 měsíci

      Lol do you watch basketball?

    • @iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79
      @iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79 Před 3 měsíci

      My man’s was diving horizontally for the ball out of bounds. He cared nothing about his body when it came to the basketball. 😂

  • @tommynufer316
    @tommynufer316 Před 21 dnem +1

    The treadmill lookin up 😂

  • @misterg2201
    @misterg2201 Před 2 měsíci +2

    KG dropping facts on this one!

  • @jabarijivens763
    @jabarijivens763 Před 3 měsíci +48

    Rodman was actually a good passer. And on top of that he didn't want to score but when needed to he gave the pistons a consistent 13ppg

    • @Arizona9001
      @Arizona9001 Před 3 měsíci +1

      None of that even makes sense.

    • @samuelchaparro9066
      @samuelchaparro9066 Před 3 měsíci

      denise sucked HORRIBLY!!!😊😅😂

    • @mistameff3528
      @mistameff3528 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Arizona9001 Makes perfect sense. The man focused on the defensive end. Why score anyway? You got the greatest scorer on your team.

  • @jan279
    @jan279 Před 3 měsíci +65

    One thing that’s forgotten about Rodman is that he can actually score if he wants to, dude was a scorer in college, he just turned into the hustle guy he’s known for in the NBA because he didn’t have to score due to the abundance of scorers on the teams he played for.

    • @autoaudiomonster
      @autoaudiomonster Před 3 měsíci +3

      They forget he was shooting more when he was on the pistons

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@autoaudiomonsterHe only averaged double figures once. Try again.

    • @poindextertunes
      @poindextertunes Před 3 měsíci +1

      and EVERYBODY seems to forget this 🤦‍♂️
      Majority of folks just don’t know ball 🤣

    • @autoaudiomonster
      @autoaudiomonster Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@grahamstrouse1165 that doesn't mean he can't score, he would have to focus on being a more efficient shooter

    • @blakestrother5122
      @blakestrother5122 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@grahamstrouse1165 Sure, but he also played in an NBA where players earned their spot for their roles. People take for granted that in the late 80s into the early 90s the NBA was a coaches game. They called the game almost down to the play by play like football. It wasn't as if even the stars of the league could just do what they want like today's game. I mean in every Era of Rodman's career he played in very strict offensive systems alongside incredibly high volume scorers, guys like Aguire, Dantley, Isiah, David Robinson, and then of course Jordan and Pippen. I think in today's NBA there would be pressure on Rodman to be more than he was, simply because I think we are witnessing the most rigid NBA the league has seen in a while. I mean if you dont shoot 3s they basically boo you out the league and contracts are generated by hype alone. However, I think in his own time Rodman played the field right, I mean there was a time in San Antonio where is career looked fried but he stuck to his brand of basketball, rebranded himself, and got 3 more rings out of it. But i'll just end on this just based on conditioning and athleticism alone, theres no doubt he had offensive potential way beyond a Draymond.

  • @Indifference2000
    @Indifference2000 Před 3 měsíci +4

    KG storytelling is fucking legendary 😆

  • @MrBeaujangles51
    @MrBeaujangles51 Před 3 měsíci +1

    0:17 them guards was moving like they are now

  • @ivanzrno1765
    @ivanzrno1765 Před 3 měsíci +77

    rodman could have been an olympic athlete as a runner. his fitness was crazy

    • @Arizona9001
      @Arizona9001 Před 3 měsíci +7

      Nah. Not true

    • @londonrich7
      @londonrich7 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Olympic running is a different league , different type of running

    • @TheDendra7
      @TheDendra7 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Basketball players are among the worst runners of all athletes...

    • @SumoCarri
      @SumoCarri Před 3 měsíci +1

      lmfao olympic runner is insane lebron not even an olympic level runner just say he was in top shape

    • @arnellsmith
      @arnellsmith Před 3 měsíci

      No lol

  • @bigsiv
    @bigsiv Před 3 měsíci +22

    Great defender, greatest rebounder, and more swag and personality than most. And don’t forget about the kicks!

    • @TylerHingleton
      @TylerHingleton Před 3 měsíci

      He's not a greater rebounder than Wilt, Russell, or even Moses Malone

  • @nicolasaguilar1258
    @nicolasaguilar1258 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The way KG lit up at the question is everything!

  • @Dudemeister
    @Dudemeister Před 3 měsíci +2

    Rodman’s passing was already incredibly good, especially outlet passes after a rebound

  • @dete239
    @dete239 Před 3 měsíci +29

    49 in two games still amazing but big difference

  • @realcoachescorner3503
    @realcoachescorner3503 Před 3 měsíci +49

    Paul Pierce...RODMAN WOULDNT HAVE HAD TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS WITH INITIATING OR PASSING!!! Ima need Pierce to brush up on his basketball homework!!! GO BACK AND WATCH RODMAN WITH THE BULLS, his role was most CRITICAL because HE WAS MAKING THOSE PASSES out the post either to the wings, corner or to teammates cutting backdoor with his precise bounce passes! Lets not just talk off the cuff without serious reflection...and lets not forget Rodman could score the ball IF HE WANTED TO!!! He wanted to win championships though so he knew his niche would be to do the things other players couldnt or wouldnt do gaining possessions through offensive boards and helping transition points by grabbing defensive rebounds and making fast accurate outlet passes. Do yourself a great service and watch Rodman again you will see the hustle, the pick and roll, the face up the swing pass that Draymond thinks he made is actually what Rodman was doing all those years ago...ASK STEVE KERR HE WAS THERE WITH THE BULLS!!! RODMANS A PROBLEM AN ANY ERA HE GIVES TEAMS EXTRA POSSESSIONS!!!

    • @jaylebron777
      @jaylebron777 Před 3 měsíci

      So Draymond is Rodman 2.0? Wow

    • @KrispyKleenex365
      @KrispyKleenex365 Před 3 měsíci +9

      @@jaylebron777draymond is a Rodman 0.2 NOT 2.0 😂😂

    • @13jcarey
      @13jcarey Před 3 měsíci +3

      Thank you!!

    • @OUrNit03
      @OUrNit03 Před 3 měsíci

      Rodman was a great passer, right!

    • @KrispyKleenex365
      @KrispyKleenex365 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@OUrNit03 some people dont even bother to watch FREE CZcams videos on Dennis Rodmans passing ability smh

  • @taahirthegreat
    @taahirthegreat Před měsícem +1

    The legends can play in every era.

  • @sjalabi35
    @sjalabi35 Před 3 měsíci +4

    KG imitating his voice on the treadmill 😂

  • @IntegrityFirearms21
    @IntegrityFirearms21 Před 3 měsíci +85

    Rodman averaged 25.7 points and 15.7 rebounds in college. Rodman could score the ball but he sacrificed scoring for the team. He would dominate today’s game!

    • @randyho8315
      @randyho8315 Před 3 měsíci +11

      Exactly, and yet, all these prisoners of the moment turned to analytics: look look at his numbers

    • @salman13
      @salman13 Před 2 měsíci +4

      😂😂 some people get older but they don't get smarter.

    • @Daniel_Capital
      @Daniel_Capital Před 2 měsíci +16

      "he could've scored more, made triple the money, more all star games and won more, but chose not to." This is as ridiculous as it gets folks

    • @aniruddhiyer845
      @aniruddhiyer845 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Dominate is a stretch
      But he would be extremely useful
      He would be a better looney x Brooks
      Definitely not a draymond

    • @Wargee4978
      @Wargee4978 Před 2 měsíci

      He was a small forward in college and stopped scoring in NBA

  • @levarupshaw187
    @levarupshaw187 Před 3 měsíci +19

    People forget that when he was with the Pistons he was a scorer. His last years in Detriot he became the defensive stopper. Having to guard Pippen, Bird & Dr. J.

    • @cocouffs
      @cocouffs Před 3 měsíci

      Usually if you were tasked with guarding those 3, we ain't having youtube conversations about them.

  • @prbprb2
    @prbprb2 Před 3 měsíci +1

    You really needed to see Rodman live to understand how talented he was. I saw him play against Olajowan and the Rockets in the 90s as part of the Spurs. He was just everywhere. Comically a basketball coach would be smart to tell his players to watch Rodman, to improve themselves. But off the field he was so crazy. LOL

  • @ryansmith2772
    @ryansmith2772 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Listening to past NBA players, give respect to how tough the league was back in the day hopefully gives humbling to the cocky players with the extreme softball rules they play with today.

  • @joeykantot
    @joeykantot Před 3 měsíci +24

    if draymond green, pj tucker, kevon looney, olynyk and rudy gobert played solid games in this era, Prime rodman will be nightmare in a faster pace those outlet pass he can do will be limitless and nobody touch him doing rebounds

    • @Dakidpepe
      @Dakidpepe Před 3 měsíci +2

      U forgot ben Simmons who can't shoot.

  • @sacramentoking2667
    @sacramentoking2667 Před 3 měsíci +38

    KG speaking straight facts.

  • @phillipwaterman1
    @phillipwaterman1 Před 26 dny

    Rodman on the treadmill story almost killed me,🤣🤣🤣🤣Side Note- I actually use to watch him play in Laguna Beach back in 2001 2002 as a Teen and my brother use to run games with him, he had a crazy engine even then 2 yrs after he retired, and yes he did pull up on his Motorcycle the same one KG talking about😂😂😂 straight facts!

  • @3ricegr3at
    @3ricegr3at Před 3 měsíci +2

    Rodman didn’t have the ball handling or the court vision / passing ability to be a legend in today’s game. He was all defense and rebounding.

  • @meanmistermustard2485
    @meanmistermustard2485 Před 3 měsíci +32

    Rodman was also a very intelligent player. His intellect on the court was very underrated.

  • @CiddyTV
    @CiddyTV Před 3 měsíci +32

    Treadmill story got me cryingggg 😂😂😂😂

  • @Trev_Swen
    @Trev_Swen Před 27 dny

    The most rebounds Dennis got in a single game was in 1992 vs the Pacers with 34 rebounds😮
    But what's even more crazy is that Dennis Lead the NBA in Rebounds for 7 years straight(all of which he was 30+ years in age during that span)
    These two stats alone makes me feel confident in his ability

  • @jodog31
    @jodog31 Před 2 měsíci

    Wish we still had players like Rodman, Ben Wallace, Dale Davis, Anthony Mason, Charles Oakley. Always my favorite underrated players to pick up in Live or 2k.

  • @slickerthanoil5031
    @slickerthanoil5031 Před 3 měsíci +31

    KG got a lot of respect for Rodman. Love to see it!

    • @pawprintz9461
      @pawprintz9461 Před 3 měsíci +1

      KG is dropping jewels and Pierce is his usual confused self.

  • @shawnlloyd458
    @shawnlloyd458 Před 3 měsíci +20

    Oh yeah. Dennis Rodman was 5'11 coming out of high-school . He was a guard and not that great. He grew to 6'9 in a year after high-school. He had a regular job and had to go to a couple JUCO schools before he made it to the league. My point is he played the short man's game first so it made it easier for him to guard anyone.

  • @kennethnoisewater8170
    @kennethnoisewater8170 Před 3 měsíci

    An aging Andre Drummond on the Bulls this season had a couple of 20 point and 20 rebound nights recently. Nobody works for rebounds anymore so one guy can go to town on boards if they’re strong and work hard and they’re skilled at it. And the one guy in the middle in this clip (I really should know who it is but don’t) makes a good point that there are way more missed shots now with all the brick threes so Worm would be grabbing even more boards.

  • @Trailrunner1978
    @Trailrunner1978 Před 3 měsíci +14

    He was one of the most intelligent and athletic players ever. He just transferred this to defense, rebounds and everything else to win games. He sat and analysed games with coaches. He would have been just as good today.

  • @ahmedarfi596
    @ahmedarfi596 Před 3 měsíci +18

    KD and Paul you guys need to invite
    The legend worms.
    To your podcast.
    He's unbelievable human being.

  • @akabancopop
    @akabancopop Před 3 měsíci

    If I remember correctly, he had developed a perimeter shot during his time in San Antonio. The most intelligent and studious players, and he is certainly among them, usually figure it out.

  • @conindouang569
    @conindouang569 Před 3 měsíci

    1:02 you good OG!

  • @BetterDialKylePodcast
    @BetterDialKylePodcast Před 3 měsíci +22

    Idk wat Paul pierce talking about rodman would be hell of effective in todays nba with just his rebounding alone n energy u know how many pts all his rebounds led to 2nd chance pts imagine him on the warriors steph would have broke that 3 pts record super earlier then he did if he had a rodman getting him the rock off the cup

    • @remywhite4377
      @remywhite4377 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Exactly. All these bigs that seem like they're scared to rebound, Worm would average 20+ a night for his career in today's league. Especially if you gave him a shooter like Steph.

    • @JamesSmith-gz1zn
      @JamesSmith-gz1zn Před 3 měsíci +1

      Facts cause Draymond can’t shoot like that

    • @andyheath5244
      @andyheath5244 Před 3 měsíci

      But they fazed a lot players out that can’t shoot, Drummond, Howard ect and they was averaging 14 rebounds

  • @BadgerWolf-19
    @BadgerWolf-19 Před 3 měsíci +8

    Rodman would average 14 ppg on put backs and like 26 rpg. He averaged like 18 during a tough era. He lead the league in rebounds almost the entire 90s 7 years straight. Insane.

  • @rominous1034
    @rominous1034 Před měsícem +2

    He buggin sayin Rodman wouldn't be playable that man was a problem nobody could control

  • @Nashvegas21
    @Nashvegas21 Před 14 dny

    I could listen to KG all day long. Love that dude. He does everything in his life with intensity and intelligence.

  • @daheisman11
    @daheisman11 Před 3 měsíci +17

    Dennis Rodman could definitely play Nic Claxton/Lively/Gafford type of minutes. He’d just be small center. I also like Rodman slowing down Embiid and Jokic.

    • @jaycharles1290
      @jaycharles1290 Před 3 měsíci +1

      First player I thought of was Claxton.But more agressive.And yes, he’d give a lot of offensive players problems like the two you mentioned.He’d matchup well with Sabonis and he could guard Luka and Tatum 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @plforeal4392
    @plforeal4392 Před 3 měsíci +10

    Respect to KG showing love to the greats. KG always played the game with utmost respect and still holds the game up today. Salute my favorite player of all time.