How Did Apollo Avoid a Radiation Disaster?

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    Neil Armstrong's biggest fear about the Apollo missions was a solar occurring during the mission and although none of the missions was affected by such an event they were lucky through timing rather than anything else. This video looks at what might have happened if they might not have been so lucky and how we are trying to mitigate such effects happening on the up-coming Artemis lunar program in 2024.
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  • @CuriousDroid
    @CuriousDroid  Před 2 lety +136

    A correction is in order as I said the gateway program was cancelled, this is not the case and it is due to be in place by the time of the Artemis program in 2024.

    • @Shazprime
      @Shazprime Před 2 lety +4

      Also, a 10-Gy whole-body dose of ionizing radiation would result in almost certain death within 24-48 hours, with or without a bone marrow transplant and supportive care. Anything above 8 Grays is generally regarded as invariably fatal, and 10 is definitely in that territory. A dose of 4-6 Grays is generally where doctors and specialists try to do intensive interventions like colony stimulating factors, marrow transplants, and so on. Anything in the 10 Gy range would probably just be met with palliative care-- I believe that one's chance of survival at that high of a dose is something like less than one tenth of one percent, and that's *with* aggressive interventions. Then again, a lot of the events that have informed our medical knowledge of acute radiation sickness have been multiple-casualty in nature, Chernobyl, Hiroshima/Nagasaki, Castle Bravo fallout, and so on, meaning that such medicines were maybe reserved for those who the doctors thought had the best chance of survival. If it were just a one-victim event, maybe they'd get the kitchen sink thrown at their ARS, I just don't know.
      Just thought I'd add in that thought about 10 Grays being a tad more serious than you made it sound, thanks for the great video

    • @SaturnCanuck
      @SaturnCanuck Před 2 lety +2

      That's good news

    • @Skoran
      @Skoran Před 2 lety +3

      Came here to ask since I thought I totally missed it. Glad it's not cancelled.
      Thanks for the correction and your awesome content, learned so much because of you.

    • @MrVillabolo
      @MrVillabolo Před 2 lety

      That's unfortunate. The gateway program is a waste of effort. Spacecraft should be able to go directly to the Moon without any steppingstones. The Moon itself is the practical steppingstone for missions further out.

    • @Shazprime
      @Shazprime Před 2 lety +6

      @@MrVillabolo Well, in order to prep the Moon to be that stepping stone, you might need the Gateway as an interim step, no? But in all seriousness, there are so many reasons why all the manned missions put on or designed for TLI have been 2-spacecraft (orbiting tug + lunar lander)-- If you need to land your whole stack on the Moon, that means you need to carry enough fuel to lift the entire stack off the Moon again, and you need to have the whole stack certified for the entire complex process of launch, TLI, lunar landing, lunar ascent, and TEI, as well as being itself certified for reentry or having a second capsule anyway for reentry. It is orders of magnitude cheaper to break the stack into discrete pieces, each of which is designed for the environment and workload of each step in the mission. Imagine if you had to have a command and service module (CSM) that was designed not only to accomplish the big navigational burn to get back to Earth (TEI) (The reason I didn't include TLI is because the Apollo missions used the S-IVB third stage to perform its TLI burn, and I assume that Project Artemis will also use a stage to accomplish it too), as well as keep the crew safe in deep space for a week or more, and carry enough consumables for both the trip there and back, but ALSO be rigorously certified for lunar landings and ascents, as well as moderate-to-long duration stays on the lunar surface. Yikes. I know we've come a long way in materials science, engineering, rocketry, and a whole bunch of other things, but even to a casual observer this seems like an unrealistic vision. Also, such a spacecraft would almost certainly be expendable (i.e., not re-usable), so this ship, which would almost certainly be the most expensive spacecraft ever built, would be thrown straight into the garbage can right after it performed its duties.
      I'm not arguing that it's impossible, I just think that it makes so much more sense to do things another way in terms of a number of variables that it would simply never happen. However, if it did, it would be cool, not gonna lie.

  • @syx3s
    @syx3s Před 2 lety +699

    it still amazes me after years of watching just how good paul is at making these. kudos to easily one of the best content creators on the internet.

    • @sean70729
      @sean70729 Před 2 lety +19

      I echo that sentiment he is a masterclass.

    • @tylerdurden4006
      @tylerdurden4006 Před 2 lety +2

      Lmfao, the best of the fake american propaganda you mean, this guy is always a joke 😂

    • @syx3s
      @syx3s Před 2 lety +37

      @@tylerdurden4006 you're the only joke i can see right now. spout nonsense with no possible way to back it up.

    • @syx3s
      @syx3s Před 2 lety +16

      @MichaelKingsfordGray yeah, aren't accents annoying?

    • @hayleyxyz
      @hayleyxyz Před 2 lety +18

      Sign all YT comments thread devolve into childish insults.
      But yea, CD is a great channel. As a Brit, I appreciate the videos he does on British/European aerospace

  • @wootle
    @wootle Před 2 lety +103

    If we were taught science in school the way Paul presents these we'd all be in a STEM field by now! Well done Paul fabulous work bro. Please dont skip past the sponsorship message people :-) We must support the channel.

    • @Legitpenguins99
      @Legitpenguins99 Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah, i really wish i had access to most of the CZcams channels i watch now while I was still in school.

    • @paddor
      @paddor Před 2 lety

      * Russian

    • @MostlyPennyCat
      @MostlyPennyCat Před 13 dny

      ​@@Legitpenguins99
      One of my hobbies as a child, which is now my career, was programming our home computer.
      The first computer we had, an Acorn BBC Micro Model B, came with a mountain of detailed programmers documentation and reference material.
      Everything you needed came with the computer.
      However, our _second_ computer was an Acorn BBC Archimedes A3000
      This came with practically no programmer's documentation.
      So I could never really program it beyond what was the same between the two computers.
      Pre-Internet, so you're screwed, it's impossible without spending hundreds of pounds on documentation.
      And this ain't even know what documentation you should choose.
      That's what it was like back in the 80s and the start of the 90s, you just wouldn't any information

  • @virutech32
    @virutech32 Před 2 lety +174

    carzy how much of early space exploration was basically just russion roulette. those astronauts & cosmonauts were some brave sob's.

    • @ronaldtartaglia4459
      @ronaldtartaglia4459 Před 2 lety +10

      No different than aviation of the time. We are just surrounded by pussies now.

    • @sean70729
      @sean70729 Před 2 lety +4

      True heroes they were.

    • @lennonwhitehead1352
      @lennonwhitehead1352 Před 2 lety +1

      There’s one above me.

    • @himarei
      @himarei Před 2 lety +15

      That's what exploration is. The first explorers who sailed the high seas, without knowing what they were going to find, were also basically playing Russian roulette. Same thing can be said for those who explored Antarctica and mountain tops. Even when we were hunter-gatherer, it took incredible bravery and courage to explore unfamiliar new lands, with all the unknown dangers that could be there.

    • @SolarWebsite
      @SolarWebsite Před 2 lety +11

      @@ronaldtartaglia4459 I guess we value human lives more these days, which in itself surely isn't a bad thing? Back then we risked human leaves for silly things like the cold war.

  • @HO-bndk
    @HO-bndk Před 2 lety +68

    When I was a tiny little kid in the 70s watching James Burke talking about the Apollo "moonshots" on British TV, I thought the Van Allen belts were what astronauts used to keep their spacesuit pants from falling down! 😶

    • @JamesDOConnor1916
      @JamesDOConnor1916 Před 2 lety +1

      😅🤔😀👍🏻😎

    • @colinp2238
      @colinp2238 Před 2 lety

      You never read a Fantastic Four comic before then?

    • @aaronpetrinec9566
      @aaronpetrinec9566 Před 2 lety +2

      Best comment I have read in a long time. Funny, inoffensive, cute, apolitical, non vaccine, non covid, the list goes on ....🤣 Can I preorder 2 for xmas gifts?

    • @IvySnowFillyVideos
      @IvySnowFillyVideos Před 2 lety

      😹

    • @brentgreeff1115
      @brentgreeff1115 Před 2 lety +2

      @@aaronpetrinec9566 - It is funny though, that we went to the moon, because its there. - but we are now too scared to go the grocery store without protective covering. - Man has really come a long way.

  • @BlisterHiker
    @BlisterHiker Před 2 lety +284

    The Apollo astronauts were tough and brave guys. They knew the risks and accepted it with class and preparation.
    It's no surprise all kinds of conspiracy crackpots and flatearthers reject the achievements of Apollo program because they have not achieved anything significant themselves.
    Thank you C.D. for bringing the light to this dark place called CZcams.

    • @ashleywallace1165
      @ashleywallace1165 Před 2 lety +18

      It appears you don't understand what a conspiracy theory actually is.
      A conspiracy theory is a theory that involves a conspiracy.
      A conspiracy is when two or more organisms (the 'conspirators') work together for some goal.
      Conspiracy, collaboration, collusion, cooperation.
      That's it.
      Conspiracy theory does not mean ridiculous theory (a theory that is ridiculous) or false theory (a theory that is false).
      A conspiracy theory may be good theory, offering value.
      A conspiracy theory may be bad theory, offering no value.
      So what is it that makes it a conspiracy?
      The relevant question to ask is, are there two or more people involved?
      If yes, then it's a conspiracy, collaboration, collusion, cooperation.
      If not, then it is not a conspiracy.
      A baseball team conspires to beat their opponent.
      The "official US government story" about 911 is a conspiracy theory; there were more than one hijacker involved.
      Don't conspire with other idiots to keep the status quo.
      Instead, conspire with intellectuals to change the world to be a better place to live.
      Conspiracy, collaboration, collusion, cooperation.
      All REQUIRE 2 or more people.
      If you think a theory is a conspiracy theory, ASK YOURSELF, "WHO ARE THE CONSPIRATORS?"!!!
      The term, conspiracy theory was weaponized by the CIA in the mid 1960's during Operation Mockingbird, in which agents infiltrated corporate mainstream news outlets.
      This sewage was then spewed on a public lacking the cognitive abilities required to vet information.

    • @BlisterHiker
      @BlisterHiker Před 2 lety +48

      @@ashleywallace1165 Thank you for that very articular and equally meaningless comment, but please notice I did not use the term "conspiracy theory" in my comment above.
      In the context of the topic here, people who believe moon landings were faked deserve pity or even resentment. Calling them conspiracy crackpots is not an insult, but an observation. It's the moon landing deniers who insult the astronauts and all the people who worked in the Apollo program.

    • @fishie3799
      @fishie3799 Před 2 lety +30

      @@ashleywallace1165 Even if you're technically correct about the literal definition of "conspiracy theory," you know what the original poster meant by the term. It's evolved a new, common meaning in our vernacular, CIA-inspired or not. I don't think every conspiracy theory is dumb, and they're fun to talk with your friends, but the Moon Hoaxer cretins you see in every comments section on CZcams for space videos are so god damned obnoxious.

    • @PeterDavid7KQ201
      @PeterDavid7KQ201 Před 2 lety +13

      @@ashleywallace1165 So which conspiracy theories do you fervently cling to?

    • @nicolesibylla2541
      @nicolesibylla2541 Před 2 lety +8

      @@ashleywallace1165 Nicely put.
      Too many conditioned failures lack the cognitive abilities to vet information spewed on them 24/7 by the corporate media.

  • @ChessMasterNate
    @ChessMasterNate Před 2 lety +44

    One minor inaccuracy. The reason we see the aurora over the magnetic poles is that the magnetic field is closer to the Earth there. The particles deflected from the magnetosphere are invisible...and the deflection is also invisible. We see light from particles that were not stopped by the magnetosphere and crashed into either oxygen or nitrogen atoms, which then glow after absorbing the energy and becoming energized plasma, like neon tubes do. The particles are not "funneled" there.

    • @paulmichaelfreedman8334
      @paulmichaelfreedman8334 Před 2 lety +5

      The particles are guided along the magnetic field lines towards the poles, a fraction of which are actually guided into the atmosphere. Although funneling is technically not correct, the shape at the poles does resemble a funnel

    • @astroroadshow
      @astroroadshow Před 2 lety +13

      I think he was trying to simplify the language for everyone to understand. If he went into detail with every single point, the film would last hours and would be very boring.

    • @stevesmith7839
      @stevesmith7839 Před 2 lety

      Just the start of his inaccuracies.

    • @FlatEarthKiller
      @FlatEarthKiller Před rokem +1

      @@stevesmith7839 Simplification at the cost of real science.

  • @marckyle5895
    @marckyle5895 Před 2 lety +119

    The Apollo mission could also have realigned the spacecraft so that the CM and LM would be in the shade of the Service Module pointed away from the Sun. The SM engine, food, assorted supplies and water/fuel tanks and batteries would take the brunt of the CME while the crew took shelter in the LM.

    • @tylerdurden4006
      @tylerdurden4006 Před 2 lety +1

      That's not how physics and astrophysics work

    • @johannestetzelivonrosador7317
      @johannestetzelivonrosador7317 Před 2 lety +1

      @Marc Kyle Open the pod bay door hal

    • @MadScientist267
      @MadScientist267 Před 2 lety +5

      @@tylerdurden4006 pwned

    • @TheDoctor1225
      @TheDoctor1225 Před 2 lety +10

      @@tylerdurden4006 Says the anonymous commenter on CZcams. By all means, Doctor, enlighten the rest of the poor mortals here.

    • @ZaHandle
      @ZaHandle Před 2 lety +9

      @@tylerdurden4006 nothing hard to understand you stay behind wall things don’t move through the wall

  • @TTURocketDoc
    @TTURocketDoc Před 2 lety +12

    one minor correction, NASA's Gateway project is not cancelled, it's just not on the "critical path". We're still working on it at JSC

    • @anthonyhitchings1051
      @anthonyhitchings1051 Před 2 lety

      gateway to nowhere, sad to say

    • @paulmichaelfreedman8334
      @paulmichaelfreedman8334 Před 2 lety

      The gateway hardware can be made obsolete by using a modified starship that can dock multiple earth-moon shuttles and landers. And be much cheaper. Once that idea has fully settled into the heads of the decision makers, the outcome seems simple to me.

  • @livingcorpse5664
    @livingcorpse5664 Před 2 lety +39

    There are several projects working on generating plasma and using magnetism to wrap it around spacecraft in a bubble big enough for spacewalks. Yes, a real life force-field.

    • @davidelliott5843
      @davidelliott5843 Před 2 lety +1

      Apollo had a small fraction of the power needed to do this.

    • @steveaustin2686
      @steveaustin2686 Před 2 lety +10

      @@davidelliott5843 I believe Living Corpse is talking about research being done now for future missions.

    • @VTXHobbies
      @VTXHobbies Před 2 lety +1

      @@davidelliott5843 obviously, that's not what OP said

  • @mitseraffej5812
    @mitseraffej5812 Před 2 lety +6

    The big message is how vital and thin our protective blanket of air is.

    • @dnomyarnostaw
      @dnomyarnostaw Před 2 lety

      Its not the Air that's protective!

    • @mitseraffej5812
      @mitseraffej5812 Před 2 lety +2

      @@dnomyarnostaw The air is not the only protection but it certainly plays a big part. Of course without the magnetic field the air would soon been blown off.

    • @oremooremo5075
      @oremooremo5075 Před 2 lety

      Most people get suprised when I tell them how we can only survive upto 3km in the air.

    • @mitseraffej5812
      @mitseraffej5812 Před 2 lety

      @@oremooremo5075 Yep, after driving to the summit of Mt Haleakala on Maui, elevation almost exactly 3,000metres, I walk down into the crater. I thought I was going to die on the climb back up to the car park.

    • @oremooremo5075
      @oremooremo5075 Před 2 lety

      @@mitseraffej5812 It really strikes in the idea that life is barely making it on Earth

  • @ibnewton8951
    @ibnewton8951 Před 2 lety +84

    Your thoughtful and interesting productions help me enormously in these times of depression, sickness and death. Thank you Paul.

    • @robdc4829
      @robdc4829 Před 2 lety +10

      I send positive vibes to you! Keep struggling through.

    • @RedLP5000S
      @RedLP5000S Před 2 lety +5

      Agreed. He gives me a sense of peace.

    • @TheDoctor1225
      @TheDoctor1225 Před 2 lety +8

      Times of depression, sickness and death have always been with mankind. Don't forget the myriad reasons each one of us have to be grateful, glad and to seek the beauty that still exists in the majority of the world around us. Don't give up, and DON'T give in!

    • @AE5X
      @AE5X Před 2 lety +3

      and paranoia

    • @davidelliott5843
      @davidelliott5843 Před 2 lety +4

      Sorry for your loss but do remember that mainstream media exists to spread doom and gloom. They never show a balanced view. Government machinery exists to make itself bigger. It’s never capable of doing a good job of anything.

  • @MashX.
    @MashX. Před 2 lety +25

    Where do you get such sick T-shirts? I really need a dozen.

    • @toiletpapermerchant9310
      @toiletpapermerchant9310 Před 2 lety +2

      i think its by some company called madcap. he has mentioned it in his older videos

    • @Dethred1
      @Dethred1 Před 2 lety

      Probably from Dan Flashes

    • @jasnterry1313
      @jasnterry1313 Před 2 lety

      Atom Retro, he has a link to them in his old videos

    • @MashX.
      @MashX. Před 2 lety +1

      @MichaelKingsfordGray what in tarnation do you mean?

  • @markchip1
    @markchip1 Před 2 lety +25

    Rather than a full spheroid of water shielding around the entire craft, would it not be more practical to have a limited area, and quite literal, partial shield of all the craft's water reserves to shelter the crew behind for a few hours?

    • @conradmcdougall3629
      @conradmcdougall3629 Před 2 lety +7

      The LEM spun in what was referred to as a "barbecue roll" to avoid overheating from the sun.
      That water shield wouldn't work if in just 1 spot.
      Good idea though.

    • @RtB68
      @RtB68 Před 2 lety +8

      @@conradmcdougall3629 ...so my old waterbed won't cut it? It's been through so much I thought a solar flare would be easy peasy.

    • @kirkc9643
      @kirkc9643 Před 2 lety +2

      When fuelled Starship will have a lot of liquid methane onboard...something that is also packed with Hydrogen.

    • @davidsoom1551
      @davidsoom1551 Před 2 lety

      You can't shield behind something against Galactic Cosmic Radiation, it comes from every direction and the Solar radiation, well read about what happens when it encounters the materials of the craft. You can't just duck behind something and be safe.

    • @DLWELD
      @DLWELD Před 2 lety

      @@RtB68 You just have to be under the water bed to have it work.

  • @stephenpage-murray7226
    @stephenpage-murray7226 Před 2 lety +44

    Top drawer as usual.

  • @icegiant1000
    @icegiant1000 Před 2 lety +2

    You've got a guy in a spacesuit, standing on the moon, death and danger all around, his task is to plant a flag, he does that, and then takes the time to straighten it out so it looks good. I love that.

  • @garrisonchilds2610
    @garrisonchilds2610 Před 2 lety +10

    Congrats on 1 mil subs! have been enjoying your videos for years, and I look forward to the upcoming ones. Best of Luck!

  • @michaelhowell2326
    @michaelhowell2326 Před 2 lety +12

    I just can't wrap my head around the fact some people think it was faked.

    • @GottEddy
      @GottEddy Před 2 lety +4

      Yeah the camera team was already waiting on the moon when they landed on there.

    • @jr2904
      @jr2904 Před 2 lety +13

      Especially when the Soviets would have called out any fakes, yet we've still got idiots out there denying it lol. In the same league as flat earthers

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Před 2 lety +4

      They don't. They're trolling you.
      Some of them think it's funny, others it's an ego thing where they'd say the sky is red if that was the fad.

    • @fishie3799
      @fishie3799 Před 2 lety +7

      @@samsonsoturian6013 Nah man, you browse enough CZcams comments and you'll run into some dead serious Moon Landing hoaxers, they all spout the same 3 misinformed talking points they don't understand and they refuse to listen to any contrary evidence. It makes them feel special to be "in the know," even if they're completely wrong.

    • @kirkc9643
      @kirkc9643 Před 2 lety +2

      Never underestimate the level of dumb that is possible.

  • @_Breakdown
    @_Breakdown Před 2 lety +8

    8:54 - - the largest solar flare (8/4/72) - - caused accidental detonation of up to 4,000 mines.

  • @aw9680
    @aw9680 Před 2 lety +2

    Paul have you done an episode on the craziness that is our sun? I bet you'd do it proud.

  • @andrewpearson3598
    @andrewpearson3598 Před 2 lety +6

    Great video Paul. Learned so much watching your vids.

  • @spock6734
    @spock6734 Před 2 lety +11

    Fascinating! 🖖🏼

  • @iwishyouwould6937
    @iwishyouwould6937 Před 2 lety +1

    Cheers mate. Love your stories. You always answer questions that usually get lost in the wash but are massively fascinating.

  • @samworthy5891
    @samworthy5891 Před 2 lety +2

    As always fantastic content. Informative, and brilliantly read. The work you must do in putting these videos together. Great Stuff Curious Droid.

  • @wizzardofpaws2420
    @wizzardofpaws2420 Před 2 lety +12

    So happy to see a Droid video pop up! I click the like button before I even watch it

    • @sean70729
      @sean70729 Před 2 lety +2

      Always delightful to catch one quickly.

  • @mocko69
    @mocko69 Před 2 lety +32

    it turns out that if you pass your finger through the fire quickly enough, you don't get burned.

    • @colinscutt5104
      @colinscutt5104 Před 2 lety

      depends how hot the fire is

    • @paulkazjack
      @paulkazjack Před 2 lety

      Depends how wide the fire is, so useless comparison.

    • @Ganiscol
      @Ganiscol Před 2 lety

      Would you like to prove your theory by running through the flame of my flamethrower quick enough, so you wont get burned?

    • @JohnnyWednesday
      @JohnnyWednesday Před 2 lety

      Try passing your hand through the particle beam of the LHC

    • @mocko69
      @mocko69 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Ganiscol actually, yes. Every exposure for a short enough time won't damage you significantly. Heck, humans can theoretically even survive half a minute in the vacuum!

  • @Waterratt4344
    @Waterratt4344 Před rokem +1

    Just found this page, excellent video and thank you for providing additional information regarding the solar flares and dangers of solar radiation. Looking forward to watching more of your videos!!

  • @aemrt5745
    @aemrt5745 Před rokem +1

    In the 1990s I used to climb the large Cascade volcanos. The routes frequently went under glacier icefalls. This is where a slow moving glacier hits a cliff and randomly dumps huge chunks of ice. When traversing underneath one, you saw these chucks randomly scattered. Also, eerily when camped out on the glacier you would here thuds from these icefalls.
    Like space radiation, it is a numbers game. You quickly passed underneath these ice falls and prayed the random event would not happen at that moment.

  • @nigeldepledge3790
    @nigeldepledge3790 Před rokem +3

    Surely the best way to provide shielding for a long-term base on the moon would be to bury it under half a metre of regolith.

  • @BenjaminStJohn-en9nv
    @BenjaminStJohn-en9nv Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you so much for your videos Paul. I enjoy watching every video you make.

  • @rayoflight6220
    @rayoflight6220 Před 2 lety +1

    Watching this video once more... It is a great explanation with a very wide breadth, concise in nature while being detailed at same time.
    Thank you Mr. Shillito, it is highly appreciated...

  • @xrayaiz74
    @xrayaiz74 Před 2 lety

    I have often wondered how the 1st Apollo mission dealt with the Van-Allen belt around Earth. Now I know that there is no escape from it but instead one must navigate through it to make it to the Moon and other places in the solar system. Odysseus had Scylla and Charybdis and we have cosmic radiation in myriad forms. Thank you for showing the extent of the effects of the solar flare from the 50s here on Earth. That scale of power is unimaginable when you think that it caused over 4,000 magnetically-triggered naval mines to explode within a short time of each other. Satellite circuitry was cooked, solar panels were hammered by charged particles that essentially aged them, digital communications were extensively disrupted. It's an example of how far we have to go scientifically to understand the basic mechanics of the universe...not even that, just stars as a beginning. It's humbling under no uncertain terms but awe-inspiring at the same time. It's why I like Star Trek (original series)-- their slogan wraps the whole idea up by the phrase "to boldly go, where no man has gone before."

  • @sean70729
    @sean70729 Před 2 lety +6

    Appreciate your great work. This is my favorite channell that never fails to align with my interests how delightful it is to have such a great and knowledgeble narrater, you are proof that Gen X people are our greatest hope for the future.

  • @Marinealver
    @Marinealver Před 2 lety +5

    One thing I learn is we are not much better prepared for space travel today than we were back then.

    • @TurinTuramber
      @TurinTuramber Před 2 lety +1

      I hear all these dreamers caught up in space X hype saying humans will have a Martian colony in X years etc. People lose sight of reality so easily.

  • @StevenRud
    @StevenRud Před 2 lety +1

    I just LOVE this channel!!! The information is so extraordinarily and fantastically presented, editing, and narration are superb!!!
    Thanks for the great video!👍🏻👍🏻😎😎

  • @TheStefmcd
    @TheStefmcd Před 2 lety

    Superb clarity of explanation on this huge issue for space travel. Loved it.

  • @Soordhin
    @Soordhin Před 2 lety +7

    The SI unit is Sievert by the way, not Rem. And of course, Gray is an SI unit, but only for raw radiation which does not give the full physiological picture unlike Sievert. So there is a curious mixture of non-SI and SI units in this video, although, at least for Rem and Sievert, it is easy enough to convert them into each other.
    As an official radiation exposure worker (airline pilot) my monthly, yearly and life long exposure is measured in Sievert of course.

    • @TurinTuramber
      @TurinTuramber Před 2 lety +1

      Did they use Sievert in 1969? If they used Rem back then quoting Rem makes sense.

    • @jbmurphy4
      @jbmurphy4 Před 2 lety

      Could the type of radiation they received in space be more dangerous than a slow & steady dose received by nuclear workers?
      Most of the Apollo astronauts had heart problems in later life from their radiation exposure.

    • @TurinTuramber
      @TurinTuramber Před 2 lety +3

      @@jbmurphy4 ...most American old men has heart problems. Be strange if they didn't. ^^

    • @jbmurphy4
      @jbmurphy4 Před 2 lety

      @@TurinTuramber that's true, but the apollo astronauts had a higher rate of heart problems due to radiation damage that disrupted the production of some important enzymes.
      The question is how did they get that damage so easily.

  • @Leg239
    @Leg239 Před 2 lety +9

    This guy always has the most awesome content and shirts. Please sell them or put up a link

    • @DLWELD
      @DLWELD Před 2 lety +1

      Come for the content - stay for the shirts.

  • @BuzzKiller23
    @BuzzKiller23 Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent video as always!

  • @Cracks094
    @Cracks094 Před 2 lety

    I really hope they give you the opportunity to appear as a guest narrator on some of the MagellanTV documentaries, you really deserve more spotlight. Amazing content and incredibly interesting to watch each and every video.

  • @NSPlayer
    @NSPlayer Před 2 lety +12

    Yay more space related stuff :D

  • @RedLP5000S
    @RedLP5000S Před 2 lety +7

    Those astronauts surely had the right stuff.

  • @frankgulla2335
    @frankgulla2335 Před 2 lety

    Thank you, Paul, for an excellent reports with lots of Apollo details and a minimum of 'sturm and drang'.

  • @jangrahame4891
    @jangrahame4891 Před 2 lety +1

    Clear and concise. Thank you!

  • @samsen3965
    @samsen3965 Před 2 lety +7

    Always great to see you with a lot of content.

  • @spencerwingfield1494
    @spencerwingfield1494 Před 2 lety +20

    12:51 Did I miss the memo that Gateway was cancelled? NASA finalized the contract for HALO like last month.

    • @exploshin6
      @exploshin6 Před 2 lety +2

      I was thinking the same thing lol, had to go look it up to make sure I hadn't missed something

    • @simongeard4824
      @simongeard4824 Před 2 lety +4

      I was wondering the same thing. The last I heard, it was "off the critical path", meaning that Artemis would proceed without waiting for the station be be built... but the intention was still to build it. That's pretty close to "cancelled", but not quite the same.

    • @spencerwingfield1494
      @spencerwingfield1494 Před 2 lety

      @@simongeard4824 Right, but with the now announced delay in building the xEMU suits I could see them coming online about the same time

    • @mocko69
      @mocko69 Před 2 lety

      Wondering the same haha, Gateway wasn't canceled at all! Maybe he confused it with the Constellation program?

    • @jimmyfreemantle879
      @jimmyfreemantle879 Před 2 lety +1

      I had the same thought.
      it seems like it wasnt that long ago that spacex had tendered the dragon xl for resupplying the gateway.
      I do believe it will be cancelled though as it will be seriously expensive to build and resupply. Unless Nasa give spacex sole rights to assemble and resupply the gateway and we all know their competitors wont let that fly..

  • @philvanderheit5985
    @philvanderheit5985 Před 2 lety +1

    Congratulations for your 1 Million subscribers, it's fully deserved !
    Greetings from Lausanne.

  • @HerbertWest99
    @HerbertWest99 Před 2 lety

    strong effort indeed, another good and informative video Paul !

  • @franklogan494
    @franklogan494 Před 2 lety +5

    The Astronauts survived the Radiation, by wearing Tin Foil Suits.

  • @Sn-ue2pd
    @Sn-ue2pd Před 2 lety +20

    I had this argument with some imbecile who kept highlighting the showstopper talk with Marco Durante which 'proved' the apollo missions were faked. Kept dishing ad homenim attacks and calling me a "zelot" (I think it was a new word for him as he used it in every comment) and repeatedly posting a picture of cell DNA being damaged by heavy iron ions, completely ignoring that everything else existed. Was pure jokes.

  • @jean-huguesbouchard1045
    @jean-huguesbouchard1045 Před 2 lety +1

    Always well researched content👍

  • @motivase
    @motivase Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent as usual and with a surprise in the beginning showing the view from the Walhalla near Regensburg. 😊

    • @floriandaler5327
      @floriandaler5327 Před 2 lety +1

      I was seeing this scene right as I read your comment xD
      The Walhalla in Donaustauf is a must see if you are in that area

  • @NLynchOEcake
    @NLynchOEcake Před 2 lety +14

    4:06 "these ionizing particles can rip us to shreds at the molecular level, or damage the things that make us money which is why it matters so much"
    nice

    • @livingcorpse5664
      @livingcorpse5664 Před 2 lety

      The one way to get the point across the people funding you if they don't care about human life. Stop appealing to their hearts and appeal to their wallet.

    • @Ganiscol
      @Ganiscol Před 2 lety +1

      Since there is nobody sitting in a satellite, the damage it causes to electronics is all that matters for that matter - space isnt just about astronauts. Its fair to point that out, because more people on earth depend on the cloud of sats above us than there are people up there. And make no mistake: working communications and sat nav protect and literally safe hundreds of thousands of lives on earth every day. Watch everything go down the shitter if a flare takes out a large chunk of satellites in our day and age...

    • @livingcorpse5664
      @livingcorpse5664 Před 2 lety

      @@Ganiscol Spacecraft.

  • @chrictonj9503
    @chrictonj9503 Před 2 lety +6

    "Who did" your shirt in this video? I appreciate the size of the space objects.

  • @colinscutt5104
    @colinscutt5104 Před 2 lety +2

    great work Paul, much more detail and science than you get on those dummed down channels on tv

  • @tonylalangue6243
    @tonylalangue6243 Před 2 lety +1

    The Carrington event, on September 1-2 1959. blew the higher voltage communication lines carrying the morse code communications, by inducing currents in these long electrical lines. There was a similar event causing a blackout some years back, when the power lines running from northern Quebec, were similarly affected. Of course, this just tripped the large numbers of relays all along the line instead of actually frying the system.

  • @Sneemaster
    @Sneemaster Před 2 lety +6

    Shouldn't Galactic Cosmic Rays be GCRs instead of GSRs?

    • @MinorZero
      @MinorZero Před 2 lety

      I could be wrong, but I think he is actually referencing this looking at the animation he used:
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-ray_burst
      Which mean he should have used GRB in that case

    • @Richardincancale
      @Richardincancale Před 2 lety

      Yes I think so - I searched for GSRs but not a recognised acronym

  • @JayMaverick
    @JayMaverick Před 2 lety +7

    Fine tuned universe for humans indeed. Space is crazy.

    • @richwatts8824
      @richwatts8824 Před 2 lety

      Earth is fine-tuned for humans, most of the universe is not

    • @oremooremo5075
      @oremooremo5075 Před 2 lety

      @@richwatts8824 Earth is no where near being fine tuned for any life. I mean have you ever tried staying naked for long periods of time. There are only a few places in the world suitable for living. Humans have been cheating the system since they invented stone tools and started reshaping the enviroment into what they want.

  • @packrat2569
    @packrat2569 Před 2 lety

    Outstanding content as always. Thank you Paul.

  • @ProfSimonHolland
    @ProfSimonHolland Před 2 lety

    good one...lots of excellent information

  • @BarrettCharlebois
    @BarrettCharlebois Před 2 lety +4

    I like your presentation style. Pacing is good, scripting is good. Consistency is flawless (which as a business nerd is a fantastic quality to see in anyone). You do good work.

  • @jameshansen1903
    @jameshansen1903 Před 2 lety +12

    I remember a cheesy made-for-TV movie from my childhood about the first lunar colony surviving a major solar flare, and a pair of children shielded themselves from the radiation by hiding between large water storage tanks. Turns out it was called Plymouth and it aired on ABC in 1991.

    • @singletona082
      @singletona082 Před 2 lety +4

      In fairness depending on tank orientation that is an excellent strategy since water is one of the best insulating materials against radiation.

    • @karlbrundage7472
      @karlbrundage7472 Před 2 lety +9

      I lived for 10+ years within 100' of a nuclear reactor with a water/fuel tank between us. I received less ionizing radiation during that period than a person who likes to sunbathe on the beach in the Summer for the same timeframe.
      Water and, especially, hydrocarbons make for superb radiation shielding. Russian submariners I interact with curse the designers of their boats for not incorporating the water and fuel tanks into the reactor shielding. I lament the number of my brothers in the submarine community who suffer today for that shortfall..................

    • @tomf3150
      @tomf3150 Před 2 lety +1

      So we need water and hydrogen rich plastics.

  • @DuckYou69
    @DuckYou69 Před 2 lety +1

    You have such great content, always very interesting topics.

  • @MetalRenard
    @MetalRenard Před 2 lety +1

    Fantastic as always!

  • @TheLastStarfighter77
    @TheLastStarfighter77 Před 2 lety +9

    Great and very informative video thanks Paul, it's unfortunate that people still are clutching at straws about the Van Allen belt, in which you attributed an entire video about, also a big thanks to the Curious Driod team for bringing us quality content, keep up the great work 👍

  • @twisterwiper
    @twisterwiper Před 2 lety +27

    Love the subtle mockery of the conspiracy theorists. Much appreciated 😂

    • @leonardgibney2997
      @leonardgibney2997 Před 2 lety

      Yes, but mostly they get called 'morons' or 'imbeciles'. I was raised Catholic and in that faith, heretics were burned at the stake.

    • @rogerdevries8883
      @rogerdevries8883 Před 2 lety +5

      BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU HEAR ON THE NEWS! REMEMBER TO NOT QUESTION ANYTHING!

    • @rogerdevries8883
      @rogerdevries8883 Před 2 lety

      @@colinsouthern very poor analogy.

    • @rogerdevries8883
      @rogerdevries8883 Před 2 lety +1

      @@colinsouthern i do believe in the moon landings and the space race, my issue is mostly with the general term “conspiracy theorists” which is a contrived term that lumps any critical thinker into a group that can then be disregarded as a whole. I misinterpreted the context of your comment.

    • @rogerdevries8883
      @rogerdevries8883 Před 2 lety

      @@colinsouthern that first sentence completely invalidates your whole argument. You do the exact same thing every day all day. You seek out info that validates your opinion

  • @onionknight2239
    @onionknight2239 Před 2 lety +2

    Another great educational and informative video. You guys are awesome 👍

  • @daveb9211
    @daveb9211 Před 2 lety

    I absolutely look forward to all of your videos. I love learning and the information you provide massages my brain 😊👍 Thank you!!!

  • @xavseq727
    @xavseq727 Před 2 lety +12

    That was an awful lot of luck, for all those missions.

    • @BlisterHiker
      @BlisterHiker Před 2 lety +7

      It was based mostly on taking calculated risks, not relying on luck. Fortunately, the sun is not on killing spree all the time like it happened in August 1972.

    • @ddegn
      @ddegn Před 2 lety +2

      All it took was not having bad luck. I bet the odds of a solar flare during a moon mission was much less than 50%.
      How many solar flares a year are at the level of being deadly to astronauts? How many days in a year were there astronauts in dangerous areas of space?
      OK, I did a bit of research to come up with a sense of the odds. The 8 missions to the moon occurred over four years. So about two a year. Most missions were a week or less. Apparently there are about ten "X class" solar flares a year. I think these are the ones that are the most dangerous to astronauts.
      So a mission to the moon is kind of like playing Russian Roulette with a 52 chamber cylinder gun. While that's certainly not a safe activity, you don't have to be extremely lucky to survive. You just have not be mildly unlucky.
      Still, I'd volunteer to go on next mission to the moon if they'd take me.

  • @missnomer3770
    @missnomer3770 Před 2 lety +3

    hallelujah... I'm rightfully overwhelmed by your explanations, Paul!!

  • @Private-GtngxNMBKvYzXyPq
    @Private-GtngxNMBKvYzXyPq Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent video. Thank you.

  • @connorchatterton7797
    @connorchatterton7797 Před 2 lety

    So consistently interesting and well made

  • @allniterz9248
    @allniterz9248 Před 2 lety +3

    5 rem at the time. Modern radiation workers have a limit of 2 rem in the US

    • @ScumfuckMcDoucheface
      @ScumfuckMcDoucheface Před 2 lety +3

      pffft. 2 rem?? pussies. I bet they don't even smoke while they drink and drive. disgusting.

  • @nicosmind3
    @nicosmind3 Před 2 lety +9

    Being on the moon is MUCH safer than travelling to the moon! You have 50% of radiation reduction just from the moon (which is quite dense) itself. That wasn't mentioned in this video.
    Long time ago since I've read these figures but I think radiation in space increases by 260x, on the moon it's 120x, and on Mars it's 88x (the Martian number I'm pretty sure about, however these figures may have changed since they were first calculated)

    • @AaronShenghao
      @AaronShenghao Před 2 lety

      But that also means you might need to get to the “dark side” of the moon. I think those numbers are averages, and moon’s magnetosphere is rather tiny.

    • @nicosmind3
      @nicosmind3 Před 2 lety

      @@AaronShenghao I wouldn't think so, like if putting a metre or two of soil above your head gives adequate protection against most things, then a whole "planet" at your feet is practically a guarantee. The only thing I can think about facing Earth vs being on the far side of the moon is occasionally getting caught in its tail (ie it's magnetosphere)

    • @xredhead7135x
      @xredhead7135x Před 2 lety +1

      @@AaronShenghao The 'dark side' of the moon is not dark from the sun. it is dark from the earth, as in faces away. When the moon is in front of the earth, as it is during a new moon phase on one side of earth and maybe even a solar eclipse on the other (but not necessarily), the 'dark side' is in full sunlight. This is a common misconception.

    • @alberthenriette8976
      @alberthenriette8976 Před 2 lety

      No worry they never went there. It was all a ruse to save face from the soviet space dominance. czcams.com/video/t94HPyKIkYQ/video.html

    • @nicosmind3
      @nicosmind3 Před 2 lety

      @@alberthenriette8976 Do you think we're stupid?

  • @Cenourafnord
    @Cenourafnord Před 2 lety +2

    Eu adoro o formato desses mini documentários, espero um dia ver você em um grande canal de TV.

    • @jungleb
      @jungleb Před 2 lety

      O conteúdo do Paul Shilito é tão bom quando o gosto dele por camisetas!

  • @RedShirt230
    @RedShirt230 Před 2 lety +1

    I can't tell you how much I enjoy your videos. Top quality all the time.

  • @N1njaSnake
    @N1njaSnake Před 2 lety +8

    And I thought that scene in For All Mankind was scary enough

  • @pleasureincontempt3645
    @pleasureincontempt3645 Před 2 lety +7

    Positively astounding. Facets I had never even considered while playing Kerbal. I used to think history was full of more idiots than our current period. I had a sense of progress at least in a social sense. I am so disappointed in ourselves.

  • @metallicamadsam
    @metallicamadsam Před 2 lety

    really nice episode. thankyou!

  • @jonkayl9416
    @jonkayl9416 Před 2 lety

    Great video. Thank you for making.

  • @michaelhowell2326
    @michaelhowell2326 Před 2 lety +4

    When you say there is "essentially" no atmosphere does that mean that there is a hint of a lunar atmosphere?

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape Před 2 lety +7

      I read that there actually is a very slight wisp of atmosphere on the Moon, so thin as to be negligible.

    • @itsmers
      @itsmers Před 2 lety +2

      Some particles floating above the surface would make a very low density atmosphere. That's just what I thought of. Particles of rocks and sand whatever is on the surface

    • @napdaw
      @napdaw Před 2 lety +1

      Guess it depends how one defines atmosphere?

    • @DeputyNordburg
      @DeputyNordburg Před 2 lety +2

      There are gas particles. If you want to call it an atmosphere it's trillions of times thinner than Earths.

    • @UmbraHand
      @UmbraHand Před 2 lety +1

      As a matter of fact, in lunar soil, you can find oxygen that originated in Earth's atmosphere, as that oxygen is part of the exosphere of the earth. Every low earth orbit satellite, including the ISS, actually have thrusters as they experience very small drag from gases from the exosphere and thermosphere, which with prolonged exposure, would bring them down eventually.

  • @davemeeks8109
    @davemeeks8109 Před 2 lety +5

    The 3 kill shots CMEs from the Sun in July were nothing to laugh about and right up there with July 23 2012 CME event that could have burnt this planet to the ground within 6 months if the CMEs multiple burst were timed a few hours difference.

    • @davemeeks8109
      @davemeeks8109 Před 2 lety

      Just like class and intelligence never made it into your world.

  • @jamescurrie01
    @jamescurrie01 Před 2 lety +1

    fantastic vid, bravo

  • @followthegrow108
    @followthegrow108 Před 2 lety

    Amazing video as always!

  • @tribiz6762
    @tribiz6762 Před 2 lety +11

    Curious droid posting Apollo stuff, time to spark a blunt real quick

    • @ChaoticOrcPaladin
      @ChaoticOrcPaladin Před 2 lety +3

      ::passes you the bong::

    • @drmantistoboggan2870
      @drmantistoboggan2870 Před 2 lety +1

      MAY AS WELL JUST DO HEROIN!

    • @ScumfuckMcDoucheface
      @ScumfuckMcDoucheface Před 2 lety

      @@drmantistoboggan2870 haha what the...? calm down mom

    • @drmantistoboggan2870
      @drmantistoboggan2870 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ScumfuckMcDoucheface ITS THE SAME THING!

    • @ScumfuckMcDoucheface
      @ScumfuckMcDoucheface Před 2 lety +1

      @@drmantistoboggan2870 umm, no? haha no, it's not?... having smoked/snorted/injected many many ounces of heroin and smoked/injested many many pounds of marijuana... I can indeed declare that heroin and marijuana are in fact different things... I promise. haha

  • @sgtJOOSEcapeS
    @sgtJOOSEcapeS Před 2 lety +3

    Welp I'mma get my comments in ... Video is 👍 great... Great 👕 shirt

  • @kevincassidy198
    @kevincassidy198 Před 2 lety

    Such terrific content!!

  • @LambChopRides
    @LambChopRides Před 2 lety +1

    Very interesting loved that Paul 👍

  • @Cheka__
    @Cheka__ Před 2 lety +4

    You don't have to worry about solar radiation when you're staging the moon landing from a Hollywood film set

    • @UmbraHand
      @UmbraHand Před 2 lety +5

      Meanwhile, the US government was in cahoots with the Soviets, who could have easily called it a fake. What next, are you going to talks about the Reptitlian, Grey, Hollow Earth, Shadow, Cloud people who rule the earth?

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Před 2 lety +3

      Go away

    • @paulhaynes5029
      @paulhaynes5029 Před 2 lety

      Even as we speak, NASA is secrectly preparing to get a replica Apollo 11 LEM base, plus flag, etc onto the moon, so that it can be 'found' there when the first Starship lands. Although, come to think of it, it would be lot cheaper just to use the old film lot and borrow a spare Starship off that nice Mr Musk...

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Před 2 lety

      @@paulhaynes5029 you mind lending me that crystal ball when you're done with it?

    • @paulhaynes5029
      @paulhaynes5029 Před 2 lety

      @@colinsouthern you missed my (perhaps too subtle?) sarcasm.

  • @johnmehaffey9953
    @johnmehaffey9953 Před 2 lety +3

    My solution being an expert in this field is fly at night then you won’t have to worry about the sun, simple can’t understand why nasa didn’t think of it, byee

  • @steveshoemaker6347
    @steveshoemaker6347 Před 2 lety

    Another excellent video....Thanks very much......!

  • @garymcaleer6112
    @garymcaleer6112 Před 2 lety

    Excellent post, CD. Thank you.

  • @candyquahogmarshmallow8257

    Its a sad day that Curious has to account for flat earthers in his presentation of space travel, but, alas, they seem the loudest (and thankfully) minority. Good video as usual Curious Droid🖒

    • @nickinportland
      @nickinportland Před 2 lety +3

      Hey why not they are fun to beat with some cold hard scientific facts.

    • @jimmym3352
      @jimmym3352 Před 2 lety +2

      Flat Earthers are different from Moon Landing is faked conspiracy theorist. Not that I agree with any of them. Just pointing out while some may believe in both conspiracies, they don't necessarily believe in both. Flat Earthers are the worst since that is easily disproved by looking at the stars in the night sky (Polaris is a the easy one to disprove their theories). Apollo landing conspiracy you have to provide more facts to before they realize they are just dumb internet trolls.

    • @paulhaynes5029
      @paulhaynes5029 Před 2 lety +2

      @@jimmym3352 Do flat earthers think the moon is flat as well then?

    • @oremooremo5075
      @oremooremo5075 Před 2 lety

      @@paulhaynes5029 The difference between a flat earther and a moon hoax conspirasist is the model of reality they believe in. Moan hoax believe in a spherical earth, their argument is that we did not have the technological capability to land on the moon at the time.
      A flat earther denies all reality and insist that the earth is flat. Most them use the moon hoax conspiracies to hedge the arguments.

    • @candyquahogmarshmallow8257
      @candyquahogmarshmallow8257 Před 2 lety

      @@rickyecook59 its not that i want people 'thinking like me' - i want people to stop believing in nonsense. Trust science and not flat earthers on youtube or antivaxxers etc. The fact that you're defending them kinda makes you the odd one.

  • @aw9680
    @aw9680 Před 2 lety +3

    Why do the non-believers even believe that the van Allen belts exist? Isn't it ALL a conspiracy? Lol.

  • @matthieuregnauld9648
    @matthieuregnauld9648 Před 2 lety

    Very intersting! I've learned a lot, thanks!

  • @frankgulla2335
    @frankgulla2335 Před 11 měsíci

    Thank you, Paul, for the wonderful explainer about space radiation.

  • @sheldoniusRex
    @sheldoniusRex Před 2 lety +8

    In b4 flat earthers.

  • @btfou
    @btfou Před 2 lety +3

    Turns out space is dangerous.

  • @laszlozoltan5021
    @laszlozoltan5021 Před 2 lety

    very, very interesting and informative- I had heard of this van allen belts etc. but did not understand the hazard presented. thx.

  • @shodan1337
    @shodan1337 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video and shirt. Always look forward to your uploads