Video není dostupné.
Omlouváme se.
The Abysmal Aftermath Atrocity | A Book Review of Star Wars: Aftermath
Vložit
- čas přidán 9. 04. 2022
- I saw potential in Modelland.
I saw potential in Trigger Warning.
I saw potential in Empress Theresa.
I don’t see any potential in Aftermath.
Become a Patron: / thebookwasbetter
Follow on Twitter: / krimsonrogue
Micro God- www.amazon.com/Micro-God-K-R-M...
My official PO Box:
PO Box 4658
8801 Sudley Rd
Manassas, VA 20110
DISCLAIMER: FAIR USE. Title 17, US Code (Sections 107-118 of the copyright law) All media in this video is used for the purpose of review and commentary under the terms of fair use. All footage, music and images used belong to their respective owners.
My God, Wedge lives and can survive in space, can teleport, and doesn't consider his opponents worthy of mercy. He's Shadow the Wedgehog!
The ultimate lifeform!
really putting the EDGE back in Wedge.
@@TheAdarkerglow And that is a W for him!
So different from his Legends self.
@@DIEGhostfish It hurts so much, Wedge was one of my favorite characters (mostly because of Stackpole and Allston's work) and this book practically felt like character assassination.
"I saw potential in Modelland.
I saw potential in Trigger Warning.
I saw potential in Empress Theresa.
I don’t see any potential in Aftermath."
This is the most literarily horrifying description I've ever read. I can already tell I'm in for a bumpy ride.
especially empress theresa. oooooooooooof
YIKES REACHING CRITICAL MASS
XD
@@bradybales7067 It's not hard to see the potential in that book. All it would require is a sane PoV character to watch the events of the book unfold and get progressively more outraged and unhinged by all the praise Theresa gets for destroying the world.
BAM! Instant classic cosmic horror story.
The potential in Trigger Warning was just a ripoff of Die Hard
I’m just shocked he saw potential in Empress Theresa
How to fix The Aftermath:
Delete most things
Leave Mister Bones
Make it past tense
Change the book title to The Adventures of Mister Bones
69 likes confirmed
XD
Gotta make Mister Bones a John Wick level badass, obviously. With HK-47’s sense of humour.
Imagine if we leave Jar-Jar’s depressing lively hood as mood-whiplash…
Don't forget the most important step:
Hack/Delete Chuck Wingding's Twitter, then promptly surgically remove his fingers from both of his hands.
Would read
"You compared a guy's hat to a thing that doesn't exist in Star Wars canon. You idiot." Is such a great quote to use out of context.
jesus christ, this is such common sense, I figured it out when I was 9 years old - what an absolute clown
You know, it only now hit me how much of a discredit that concept is to Chuck. Because this sort of comparison thing has been made before in the films: when Luke and co. compare shooting the DS exhaust port to shooting a Whomp rat. If Chuck was wishing to emulate that however, here's his problem: To my memory, we never see one of those in the films, but because we've seen the environment Luke lived in, know how big the thing is, the fact there is rat in the name and how it's implied such as vermin, we can get a sizable image in our head. This misunderstanding of how that worked plus how Chuck writes the concept of hostage-taking as unthinkable for the Empire (Hello Leia) makes me wonder if Chuck really watched the movies or was just going off lists of characters and memes.
@@tiberiusfemur374Wendig is too busy living on Twitter to be bothered to write well.
"Preganant with Lightning". Souns like the title of an erotic novel about Thor.
Sounds like my ff13 fan fiction
Or zeus who obviously turned into the lightning.
Or just a good looking greek woman's everyday life.
@@21stcenturyrambo16 Now who made Lightning pregnant?
@@DIEGhostfish _"And then along came Zeus!"_ - the start of every demigod myth
Lord of the Rings is the opposite of a Chosen One narrative; it's One who Chooses. Frodo chooses to carry the ring, because he feels obligated, because it was his ring which his Uncle had carried, and it was on him to take it to be destroyed. He chooses, and the fellowship chooses to go with him.
also id like to point out that Frodo ain't a "mary sue" character which some people might think he is to be, i mean he literally fails at the very end to destroy the ring and it took Gollum to do it, what does that mean? that means Gollum is the mary sue
I think this is mistaking who Chuck thinks is a chosen on in LotR.
It is not Frodo, it would be Aragorn.
@@TulipQ this completely misunderstands the work. Everyone is chosen to do their tasks, and they choose to do them
LOTR has nothing so clear cut as "the Chosen One trope" in it. Certainly not for Frodo at least. He's no prophesized hero with an iron will. He shows an ounce of courage in choosing to take up the One Ring and the quest, but he doubts himself at many turns along the way. He leans on Sam a lot. Ultimately he falls victim to the Ring's power and it's only Gollum's greed that completes the mission, otherwise Frodo would have failed. Frodo's reward for this is that he's forever scarred and feels out of place in the world, eventually going away with other Ringbearers and leaving everything he's ever loved behind. If Frodo is the "chosen one" for anything, he's been chosen to suffer. Wendig's a dope.
@@basicfacekick Yeah, but Aragorn is an actually prophecy fusfilling "Christ as King" figure.
Frodo is totally different as a character.
a droid screaming "I PERFORMED VIOLENCE" is genuinely so funny. i chuckled, i'll be honest
Im really not getting this, it honestly just sounds forced to me, it sounds stupid
@@lingricen8077 I think it's a combination of the absurdity of what's happening and how it actually fits Wendig's robotic writing style.
Probably because Mr bones is the only entertaining character in the entire book.
I actually like Mr Bones, the character performed the much needed humour pick-up to get me through the rest of the book. Aftermath was definitely one of the longest books for me to get through. It was a real struggle for me, the pacing is too slow in my opinion.
All Alike (so you may wanna watch):
-Jay Excis Doctor-Who-Essay
-Hbomberguys RWBY-Video and Sherlock-Essay
-Madvocate and his Flash-Coverage
-Most of Krimson Rogues Channel
-Basically the whole Channel of Some-More-News and Hello-Future-Me
Han solo: here she is, The Millennium Falcon.
Luke: what a piece of junk!
Han: hey she might not be pretty but she's herky-jerky up and down left and right.
Luke: 😒 we're getting another pilot.
Chewbacca: Rghhrllglgghgghh
Luke: No, YOUR gay
@@lingricen8077 his gay what?
@@shinobi-no-bueno I have the suspicion your joke will be lost to them. ;)
@@Quotenwagnerianer When your life is so pathetic and devoid of accomplishment that you feel pride over bullying someone over grammar, and not even to their face, but behind a computer screen, and not even responding to them directly.
You opened your mouth, and all you achieved is making a complete and utter fool of yourself.
**mic drop**
i just watched empire for the first time last month so this resonated with me my gosh😂
edit: i meant the whole trilogy
On the starting rant about wendig, I'm reminded of an article written about him and his internet archive thing, describing it like this
"When Metallica drove Napster into bankruptcy over piracy of their albums, they received due backlash for crushing one of the best distribution networks of the early internet era. The difference here is that Metallica made Master of Puppets and Chuck hasn’t even made St. Anger."
This is so true in so many levels.
St. Anger is fuckin generous. He hasn't even made Lulu yet.
@@IL4NR that is still too genorus he hasn't even made "unholy confessions" by A7x unholy cover
@@IL4NR real I enjoy a few songs off st anger still lulu just makes me want my head to blow up instantky
"You can never catch a moth."
I... I have caught many a moth in my time. Sometimes with my bare hands. What? Like, I know it's all bad, but this particular bit has me personally baffled. Moths are one of the easiest flying bugs to catch. What?
Why didn’t he use housefly? Those are hard to catch.
Agreed lol. When I was young we had two get into our house and my dad caught both in like 2 minutes
Maybe he meant like a hawkmoth, which *are* known for their speed and agility. But why he didn't just say that, which both avoids confusion and sounds cooler anyway, is beyond me
or make up an alien insect. Thats what the EU would have done. But this guy hates "world building" i should not expect otherwise from someone who could not Read Tolkein.
I had caught dragonflies and flying roaches with my bare hands (albeit with some tricks).
Guy really can't even think around how to best a clumsy bug huh...
"You ever try to catch a moth?"
Yup. Real easy. Dim the lights and shine a flashlight. It flies right to it. It's how I get rid of them when one winds up in my house. Good job, Chuck.
Or, like...just use a cup.
Seriously, all I've learned from this is that Chuck can't outsmart insects.
@@kayleighbrown459 Lol I love the way you put that.
Kinda sad when the writing shows how little someone knows.
I just grab them with my bare-hands when they flitter into reach
I love moths, but yeah they are super easy to catch and most basically die if you handle them too roughly
I mean theres a reason "like a moth to a flame" is a saying.....
The most insulting part of this for me was that Disney hasn't been paying some of the EU writers their royalty fees for selling their work
And they hire THIS guy to write?!
I suppose it makes sense that they hired a dude who thought Lord of the Rings was bad because it wasn't easily marketable as an RPG....
Oh, that’s low-not paying writers the royalties they’re owed.
Thats a little effed up. Were tney treated better by George Lucas?
@@TeishaPriest AND its Disney. One of the biggest companies in the world.
@@josesosa3337 I believe they were paid their royalties under Lucasarts, although George himself might not have supervised that aspect of the business
The dude gave his Disney sales to charity and sold it at 1/3rd of its worth anyway, on top of having the funds to make more movies and an entire video game studio - so if George actually was the one overseeing this, I have no doubts they would be paid
EDIT: However, a point to "George not being the one to oversee this" was his failed marriage due to him spending too much time making the Prequels rather than being with his family - on top of George hating the idea of making movies for sales rather than stories - so George actually might not have overseen this aspect of the business
I love how Leia keeps showing up like “Am I in this Star Wars book?” 🤣
Now that I keep my laptop on the end of my armrest, she finds a lot more opportunities to demand attention.
The child who gets your hair will be the most powerful child in the world.
Good on you for being willing to sacrifice your luscious locks for a good cause.
My sister did that too. Grew hers out, and had it donated to a charity that makes wigs for children with cancer, or have alopecia. She is currently doing it again, and my oldest niece is doing it too. I am considering it now, since I grew my hair out from a pixie cut. Now it's past my shoulders.
I agree, though it will be missed.
Tolkien's works read like an RPG manual to some because his work is literally the foundation for modern high fantasy, upon which many RPGs are based.
Right?! That’s like complaining Shakespeare is full of cliché sayings. No… it’s the source of them
Personally I could never get into it. I tried a couple times and I really wanted to love it since I love fantasy but it’s a bit confusing to a new initiate to the series. I might try again now that I’m a bit older but it might not be for me and it makes me sad :(
Homosapien cave paintings look like the Flintstones
Dude actually put "loopty-loops" unironically in his book.
Chuck Wendig has a Ned Flanders fetish.
ikr? it's spelled "loop-de-loops".
Oh Lord, the sad part is if you're doing a military sci-fi (and sorry, but if you're doing a non-jedi focused star wars, it's a military sci Fi) the audience is gonna know at least a BIT about terminology that'd be expected.
That's just embarrassing.
But when Stephen King does it we call him genius.
I remember when it came out that he was attacking the Internet Archives and a lot of people on Twitter were angry (understandably, for once). There was a neverending amount of tweets sharing images of paragraphs on Aftermath that contained things like "loopty loop" and "tickle your brainstem" and roasting him relentlessly lmao.
I feel like it’s important to note that a robot can’t be programmed with anything from Grievous because Grievous was… well, not a fuckin robot?? He was an alien that got grafted into a robot body because of extensive damage to his body
Yeah, he's a cyborg, not a droid. It doesn't help that he's usually shown to be leading an army of droids though (my dad mistook Greivous for a droid too).
@@PLATINUM_Rook difference is you father problem wasn't hired by the IP holder to write a book about Star wars, and if he was I'm sure he would have double checked cause your father probably has more than 2 braincells
Exactly, like Darth Vader, General Grievous was a cyborg. Cyborgs have mechanical elements to them, but they are not robots. I mean if you want to also get technical, Bucky Barnes as the Winter Soldier is considered a cyborg just for having a mechanical arm and no one would call him a robot.
Yeah the whole point was that he was an example of what was going to happen to Anakin in the same film. Hell they even gave him the cough to emphasise that he was a living creature.
There's even not one but TWO close ups of his biological parts during his confrontation with Obi-Wan.
Wow, Bones has to have the strongest back in the galaxy to be able to single-handedly carry this book.
(Well just between you and me, I’ve heard his back is made of metal!)
I think he works both because he's an established character, and because Wendig's dialogue is unbelievably stupid and a B1 battle droid is the only thing I can believe actually talking like that
"I was more of a trekkie because i would watch it with my dad" I felt that, I was a trekkie because I watched it with my mom and grandma.
Same here
Growing up with Voyager
"She is wearing more plot armor then anyone else"
Oh this is going to be bad, the last character survived blowing up their ship in space.
*Looks a both EU and Disney Palpatine* Could be worse... Although with EU Palps there at least was AN ATTEMPT to explain how he came back.
Wouldn't it make more sense for Ackbar's letter to say: "The Rebellion is over. But the fight for the Republic, is just begining."? It ties up much better between the concepts of both sentences.
That small change makes a huge difference. I might have even stated it was a good line if Chuck had used that.
Ah, but suggesting the birth of the New Republic as being significant might get in the way of Disney's efforts to revert all the progress of the original trilogy back to the same state as the beginning of A New Hope so they could do the same story over again with their OCs do not steal while wrecking and or killing all the previous characters...
@@KrimsonRogue OH PLEASE
@@KrimsonRogue Please edit/add a little black nothingness
onto the end of the video so my autistic brain doesnt hurt from seeing the real-odd
video-length. Please.
@@KrimsonRogue Please edit/add a little black nothingness
onto the end of the video so my autistic brain doesnt hurt from seeing the real-odd
video-length. Please.
Disney had a massive goldmine ripe and ready for the picking. And then they thought they could do better and collapsed the mine and went off to dig for a new one. Never able to find another mine like the first one they had.
Funniest part is watching Disney come back and try to tap that old mine now that their own shit has failed to pay out
Except the Old EU was a dumpster fire. Some things of value were in the fire but most of it was just the trash that burns in a dumpster fire
@@Zelinkokitsune I mean pound for pound I'd argue there's more value in the EU than the Disney era. Like for every 1 force sensitive Droid comic there were 5 Kotor tier stories.
@@darkpuppetlordful And you had 30 years of the old EU to pull thorugh. Thus make such judgements at this point is rather ingenuousness Ask me in 2040 or so to do the debate better.
@@Zelinkokitsune well after 7 years of canon fans making fun of the EU for having “muh Palpatine coming back” only for Palpatine to come back anyway in episode 9 shouldn’t really make you feel optimistic for canon being any better than the supposed EU dumpster fire
That “emerald kofta-grouse” thing reminds me of the little-referenced first season of Blackadder: “So in other words, what you are telling me, Percy, is that something you have never seen is slightly less blue than something else…you have never seen.”
Theory: Mr. Bones is the sole reason why Krimson managed to actually have the will to finish the book.
makes sense.
Closest thing to Frodo being a chosen one in the books is how because Bilbo had the ring (and thus the problem) he inherits it by being his nephew. And even then, no one tells him to carry that burden, he chooses to do because he feels it's his duty to do so.
Additionally he ultimately fails. The only reason the heros won is because of Tolkien’s view on evil and that it will ultimately destroy itself but by the end even Frodo was unable to let go of the ring.
And he doesn't even end up doing the deed, he just takes on the weight of shlepping it to Mount Doom...
Well, you could argue the entire fellowship were Chosen Ones because there are strong hints throughout that Illuvitar was guiding them to an inevitable outcome: the destruction of the ring and final defeat of Sauron. I mean, Boramir literally gets a vision that leads him to Rivendel just in time for the meeting that ultimately forms the Fellowship.
There's a lot of clues that divine intervention (destiny one could say) were at play in that story.
@@creed8712 Don't forget the power of oaths in Tolkiens universe. Frodo made Gollum swear on the One Ring to never touch him again, being thrown into the fire if he does. And in the end, when he takes the Ring from him, Gollum falls into the fire.
It strong symbolim that no one could on their own destroy the ring.
As an independent scholar and historian whose work was negatively impacted (albeit not disastrously so) by Wendig's pointless and spiteful crusade against the Internet Archive, I needed this. I salute you, good sir.
what happened?
@@LukSter18998 Nothing specific. It's just the Internet Library's e-library used to be a really useful resource for my research. It was a quick way to get access to a book, especially one that I only really needed to read over two or three pages for a source. Otherwise I'd have to wait on an ILL request or drive to a university library that might be pretty far out of my way. They're still useful and have some books with copyright, but I've noticed fewer books, especially ones published within the last 20 years, are available.
@@ChadDenton0712 Maybe you can find some books on z-lib? It's not as famous as the Internet Archive database, but maybe it can help you in some way or another.
"I was putting away bounties while you were in your space diapers!" -Disney Star Wars
"While you were still learning how to SPELL YOUR NAME, I was being trained to conquer GALAXIES!" - Battlefield Earth
When you realized Roger Christian had been in both IPs…
Has he ever mentioned his time on BattleField: Earth?
@@fernie-fernandez I doubt it. It's one of those movies you DON'T put on your resume and for good reason.
The crazy thing with the Thrawn Trilogy was that the tactics and space battles were so realistic and well thought out it almost like it was being written by a veteran of space battles
chiss for life
God I love Zahn, though I think Thrawn fans get a little ought up in his hype, still love the Trilogy.
God I miss the EU though, I mean thy had plenty of duds, but the ration of crap to good stuff was higher.
Considering that it's basically just like naval battles, it's very likely that the writer did his research on how naval battles are actually conducted
the great irony is that Disney canned the EU to replace it with THIS garbage.
@@MrChickennugget360 This, THIS sums up why I hate Disney Star Wars. It's a PALE IMITATION that feels like a mockery of what was before, it twists beloved characters into cruel parodies of what made them popular at best, assassinates their character at worst, it is the Death of what was most beloved about the franchise and I wish Disney never bought Star Wars because at least Lucas would have respected his own characters.
"For the galactic sale for the peoples of all burning stars: the hibidy-gibidy for-the-feet little human shoes, never ever ever worn in a million years in any of the galaxies."
© Chuck, probably
Fucking love this! Gave me a good giggle.
Lmao this is golden 😂💀
Was scared for a sec that we were gonna lose long reviews but instead it was just charity. I'm ok with this. uwu
My thoughts exactly
I was scared he'd be getting rid of his book throne XD
Yeah I'm not sure what I was scared of, but yay charity, that's something I'm on board with XD
1:08:09 an emerald graus has gotta be a greenish rat/cat creature.
@@cinema_roll6296 a grouse is a real world species of bird so no.
He should review Chuck's book on writing advice. He's a 45 year old man who writes like an edgy 13 year old girl.
Nah, he writes like an edgy 13 year old boy. Actually, probably worse than any 13-year-old.
Stop 😂 I refuse to believe this man has a book of writing advice, I was in pain nearly every time Krim read anything he'd written 💀 this gives me a massive confidence boost to start writing again, no matter how bad I am I'm still better than this
@@Danny-kk4nj it's true, go look up Diregentlemen, they read every single piece of writing advice and it's truly baffling
@@SnakeWasRight it was quite a video alright... 😅
I cannot believe they messed up the dogfighting in this book that bad, in the X-wing series they go into every angle and maneuver, every aileron and snap roll, it makes it thrilling to read. But sure "Loop-de-loop".
Dew a barrel roll!
That would require actually understanding the intricacies of dogfighting. That would be too much work for Wendig
He forgot to pull and now his shoes aren't looking good.
The X- Wing series writers actually worked off of the X-Wing and TIE fighter flight sim games from around that same time. So a lot of the battles in those books they were literally able to 'fly' when they wrote them. Probably why they work so well.
It’s painful after reading what characters such as Jaina Solo, Wedge Antilles, Jagged Fel, and Luke Skywalker did in the T-65XJ model X-wing in the EU books
If you want to describe something that's impossible to catch, "like a puppet dancing on someone's strings" is one phrase you ABSOLUTELY do not want to use.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around why Chuck thinks moths are hard to catch. One of the things they're most infamous for is hovering around light sources. I regularly swat a bunch near my back porch light, and it's easier than shooting fish in a barrel.
Ha! I felt it was an odd metaphor but didn't stop to think about it. Yes, that's terrible.
"It's impossible to catch, like the spaceship at the end of this towline that we're hauling back to port."
i find it equally perplexing that this galaxy far away and a long time ago even has moths.
@@pootpuff1753 When I heard this line, my mind immediately went back to my childhood when I'd catch moths *in my hands* when they got inside. There isn't a bug that's easier to catch lol
@@ravenclawtom Which is why I found Rose Tico to be such an odd name.
“Too much time on Twitter.”
Sounds right about for most modern celebrities. Also, thanks for uploading. It keeps me entertained while I write
Same. Nothing motivates me more than writing while listening to one of these long reviews. Every time I think "I'm not good enough" Krim makes a comment that motivats me with "I can do better than" energy.
Just being able to question yourself like that means you're already leagues ahead of writers like Wendig. You'll get there someday if you keep at it.
@@KrimsonRogue I don't think it's too cocky to read some of Wendig's writing and say 'well shit, I'm better than that'.
I mean I'm a better movie director than Tommy Wiseau and Neil Breen, too.
Not a better triple threat than Garth Marenghi, though.
Wendig wishes he was a celeb.
@@sunn7615 Long reviews are the best, whether they're praising or criticizing, with only two exceptions. 1) People who just want you to write a story for them and they're 1k word review is an outline for it. 2) When the review is just a bunch of insults without anything actually being commented on.
1:22:58
This is not cannibalism and is in fact a totally normal thing, but Chuck wrote it in a horrible and stupid way (Surprise!). Basically human bodies are a very amazing fertilizer. So it's a practice to bury dead bodies under trees so that the trees will grow better and produce more fruit, the idea of using their passed-on loved ones' remains as an improved food source being made into a ritual of remembrance of those buried under the tree. It's actually a very environmentally friendly and resourceful method of disposing of bodies.
The thing to always remember about Thrawn in the Heir to the Empire trilogy. Is that he's an enigma character. We only ever see him through Pellaeon's eyes, similar to Holmes and Watson.
Some of what he does makes perfect logical sense and some of it borders on clairvoyance. But what makes him so engaging is its never explained fully. There's the thing where he understands art and psychology, understands the technical limitations of military machinery, keeps time in his head and never ignores minor details.
It isn't just that you learn to love Thrawn in the book. You learn to fear him on behalf of the protagonist.
Also sometimes Thrawn gets the right answer through the wrong process. During the famous scene where he deduces Leia and Chewie are taking the Lady Luck to Kashyyyk he assumes neither Han OR Lando would leave their ship in the control of a droid. When Lady Luck has a partial slave rig and one of his other ships had a full rig.
The Hand of Thrawn Duology also goes into it, how being so mysterious allowed him to tale credit where he wasn't certain he was right, without losing face if he was wrong. At least that's how I felt when the Triumverate were doing the same thing
1:41:29 Okaaay! Lore check! Turbolasers are capital ship class weapons. They're like regular laser cannons on steroids. Typically designed to fire at heavy armor, entrenched positions, and other capital ships. They're great at hitting anything frigate-sized and larger, but struggle targeting smaller vessels like starfighters because they're slow to aim and relatively imprecise. That's why the Rebellion used X-Wings to assault the first Death Star instead of capital ships. The Death Star had a lot of turbolaser towers, but far fewer laser cannon batteries for anti-fighter defense.
Which is why I'm calling BS on a turbolaser mercing an entire squad of skydiving rebel shock troopers. It'd be like trying to hit a squad of paratroopers in free-fall with the main guns of a battleship. Could it be done? Theoretically, maybe. But there are more practical ways to get the job done.
It's worse than that. The turbolaser hits each of the falling rebel soldiers individually, without missing. It's what made Jom's escape so perilous.
Either way, thanks for the lore dive.
@@KrimsonRogue I guess paratroopers are slow if they pop the chute early but STILL
Also reminds me of how even Turbolasers had precision point defense enough to shoot down missiles in thr X-Wing simulator games if you locked them on instead of dumbfiring. "Never lock on a capital ship" was a leson you had to remember.
To be ENTIRELY fair to Wendig Turbolasers CAN come in relatively "Light" sizes. AND he'd be far from the first to call starfighter scale laser cannons "Turbolasers" in error. Even the Falcon's and X-Wing's guns have been called that from time to time.
@@DIEGhostfish Impossible, they would be HALO jumping and the entire purpose is to pull chutes underneath the effective detection of radar. However, if you are shocktroopers, the enemy shouldn't know they were coming in the first place. If they DID, they'd use flak cannons.
Too bad the lore is all dead according to Disney, they threw out 35 years of lore and information and made CRAP.
"80% of this story takes place in one town on one planet. That doesn't feel like Star Wars."
Scoundrels is a heist story (by Timothy Zahn, incidentally) that takes place in one town on one planet and still feels pretty Star-Wars-y. Another failure to add to Wendig's pile.
That story still has some issues. They gave Kell a cameo but underused him, and made everything too compressed timeline wise by setting it after ANH. It (combined with the Yavin Vasillica) meant Lando felt betrayed by Han, then forgave him, then felt betrayed then forgave then felt betrayed AGAIN. All very close in time to ESB.
@@DIEGhostfish to be fair, kell kind of had to be underutilized because he still needed to go through his development/arc in wraith squadron like I understand wanting to see him used more or have his skill set utilized more but it would be kind of a sticky point because you couldn’t really give him too much development and the arc he could’ve gotten about Alderaan was given to winter. Maybe he should’ve just been left out all together/replaced by a new character
@@silvercyclops8255 I understand that too, BUT they had established his anxiety was just piloting related, this could have covered how he worked like an expert o the ground. Or maybe how he already went through a similar fear arc on the ground. Leaving him out wouldn't have been good either. I like when others try to give Allston characters respect.
Timothy Zahn is a fantastic writer. I don't think I've come across a single one of his books that I didn't enjoy.
honestly it also sounds like modern Disney Star Wars.... anything of note basically happens in a single town on Tattooine...
"By all the stars in all the skies..."
Whatever happened to "blast?"
Most of us will say something like "christ, it's hot in here," not "by all the lakes in Minnesota, it's hot in here."
You weren't lying, Mr. Bones really is the best character in this.
He’s also in the Poe comics
Sinjir was fairly decent too but he’s basically Garak from DS9 to some degree so I have a soft spot for characters like them.
@@darman12able Yeah, except Garak was actually well written. Andrew Robinson's performance helped massively, too. That guy could probably make Empress Theresa sound like the works of Tolkien
Literally everyone in this book is copy paste of other characters in Star Wars. Even mr bones (bless his soul) is just HK-47, who is supremely better. HK is also referenced in book 3, and how it is literally makes zero sense. (yes I read it all, it was hard but there are a FEW redeeming qualities, and I read every Star Wars book). This series baffles me so much.
I mean, in microcosm, "band of not-rebels fucks up an Imperial staff meeting" sounds like a promising comedy idea
“Sir, the Coffee Machine has stopped working”
“Dammit! First someone fucks up the chairs and now we have other problems in the area!”
@@Predator20357 “somebody fucks up the chairs” gave me the mental image of how you can kick the shit out of all the chairs in DGR3
@@Lucifersfursona wonderful
That just sounds like an arc in a DnD campaign
“Sir, the copy machine is only printing pictures of butts. We do not know where those photos are coming from.”
Her rifle is a "slug thrower" which means that it is not a laser/blaster type of weapon. It throws "slugs" aka bullets. They're kind of obscure in the Star Wars universe, but they are a thing. Apparently during the war between the Jedi and the Mandalorian, the Jedi were so good at deflecting blaster shots that the Mandalorian started using "slug throwers".
Most importantly, Jedi are trained to deflect incoming fire with their lightsabers, but slugs don’t bounce off lightsabers like blaster bolts; slugs *melt* when exposed to the plasma of a lightsaber blade, so a Jedi who tries to deflect a slug gets hit by molten slag moving as fast as… well, a bullet. In other words, Mandos be like “parry this you wizard bitch”.
@@Tetrahedral-Justin Yeah, I've seen the meme too, but couldn't put it into words well enough. Every time I get the details wrong, somebody posts an "akshually" reply.
@@cymond You didn't get the details wrong, don't worry. I was simply elaborating on what you said, since it's an excellent point.
Mandos didn't use slugthrowers in KotOR their disruptors may have had the same physical damage type though. I don't remember for sure.
@@Tetrahedral-Justin No, in legends they vaporise and are generally rendered harmless unless VERY large. Possibky the vaporized bits are channelled up the blade.
In new canon rifle rounds will have part of their matter pass through red hot but not at an appreciable speed according to an Obi-wan comic.
There was a point when I was watching Rise of Skywalker, where I said aloud "I don't think I like Star Wars anymore."
And since that movie, I cannot enjoy Star Wars anymore. It's like something broke in my brain. And I actually used to like the prequels too, so something went very wrong.
Get into the EU as I doo and you should be good.
@@azjedijack any recommendations for a good starting point?
@@jameskilgour387 heir to the empire by timothy zahn
That happened during Last Jedi for me. After the movie I said "Well, Star Wars is dead to me now.". Haven't paid for, read, watched, or cared one ounce about anything Star Wars since.
@@azjedijack thanks I'll give it a read!
I believe the quote from A Knight's Tale is appropriate for this writing: "You may feel like a poet, but you sound like an idiot!"
You laugh, but I would personally love to have a story where an assassin or whatever jumps out of a cake like a stripper and then proceeds to murder a guy. If the rest of this book had been more on that level of absurdity (deliberately, not just accidentally), it might actually be worth reading.
I think I saw an episode of Batman the Animated Series like that. Harley Quinn's first appearance if I recall. No deaths though, because, you know...
sounds like *Transmetropolitan*
I mean I’m 90% sure that happened in under siege with Steven segal
I saw a really bad martial arts movie once that did that (I think it was rival mobs and they were using one boss' daughter's birthday as a way to get into his place and kill him?). The rest of the movie was pretty unbearable, but I got a huge laugh out of that instant.
Excellent work, Agent 47. Looks like they got their just desserts...
That chosen one comment - though I can respect someone not liking those kind of stories - is a divine comedy considering Star Wars literally has Anakin Skywalker, described numerous times as The Chosen One. Literally. You cannot make this up.
That is probably the first thing I thought of about Chuck decrying the Chosen One story, the story of Anakin which is the driving force of six of the nine movies is the story of him being the Chosen One. Even him falling and becoming Darth Vader I would argue was part of him becoming the Chosen One. Even though Luke himself wasn’t the Chosen One like Anakin was, he was a bit of a chosen one because of his bloodline. So a guy who hates the Chosen One trope working on books that thrive on that trope is quite weird.
Yep. The franchise with the line "YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!" in the script for crying out loud.
@@morganyoung3557 to be fair, it's a pretty neat way of showing a failed chosen one instead of the more typical "chosen one is choosed and does their thing they was chooserd for" situation... but that's definitely giving Chuck too much credit
I mean... those movies suck ass. Not only because Chosen One stories suck, of course, but that's one factor.
@@TacticusPrime They were good.
For the record, the “Subtext is for cowards guy” is a character named Garth Meranghi played by comedian Matthew Holness, and is a caricature of a cheesy horror writer who takes himself very seriously. I definitely would suggest looking into his miniseries: ‘Darkplace’, and his book: ‘TerrorTome’ if you haven’t already.
29:45 Moths are the easiest insect for you to catch mid flight - they're clumsy fliers with huge, heavy wings, who will bump into you when they're desperately trying not to. So even *beyond* the terrible writing, idk what that was all about either.
Moths sound oddly adorable now
@@punchyboi6915 They are! Have you ever seen a close up picture of a silk moth? They're like the great pyrenees of insects!
@@Oscar-----
Or Venezuelan poodle moths. They have no right to be that floofy.
@@punchyboi6915 I recommend looking up the rosy maple moth! It's adorable. Looks like a fuzzy Pokémon.
Seeing a writer of minimal talent like Wendig get to where he is just makes me want to work even harder, because if he can be a published author (not a good one mind) then I know I can as well. It's comforting in a way I guess
I have a similar thing with game development and Yandere Dev.
It's a double edged sword to be better than most mainstream writers. We shoot for better writing that's not at a third or fourth grade level (unless that's your audience, lol) so we won't have as far a reach.
I feel like it's ABSOLUTE LUCK that they shoot so quick to the top. Meyer had marketing and timing, Ready Player One had ... Spielberg I guess?
My point is, don't give up. We might not get as big as them, but we'll be there to catch the audience that bounces off when they want better work.
Eh. Being a published author is not that big of a deal anymore. I should know. I'm one, and I still don't know how it happened. Be in the right place at the right time with an okay book, I suppose? Though based on this Aftermath book reviewed here, if you have friends in the industry, the last one is apparently optional.
Spite is a powerful motivator. The energy one gets from "Fuck you, I can do better!" is incredible.
He probably kissed a few asses to get there.
The "bad news being bad" line has big "people die when they are killed" vibes
Or "The Archer class is really made up of archers" vibe.
And “People die when they are killed” is an out of context line that was poorly translated! The actual line was about how people are supposed to die when they’re killed, but the person they’re fighting doesn’t.
@@TysonRex37 It's just out of context. It's from Shirou's internal monologue when he wakes up after being stabbed and bleeding to death. Still memetic as hell because Fate writing is funny-bad like that XD The other comment's one, the "Archer class is really made of archers", fits the vibes of "bad news are bad" much better though XD
"Why does Berserker go berserk?"
@@aki3128 "The Archer class is really made up of archers" is just a bad translation of "Sasuga Archer-class", which is more like "As expected from an Archer-class Servant". Makes perfect sense to say in the situation since Rin is impressed by EMIYA showing off his ability to see extreme distances (Clairvoyance, a typical skill of the Archer class that makes them able to snipe enemies from far away).
The only reason I guessed "green bird" when you read "emerald kofta-grouse" is because I already knew that grouse are a type of bird, sort of like quail. And the only reason I know that is because I've eaten them before, not that grouse tend to come up a lot in conversation!
I knew about grouse, but i also know kofta is a Mediterranean dish of ground meat shaped around skewers-basically a hotdog-shaped hamburger. I was wondering why a bird would be named for a food item
@@alisaurus4224Assuming kofta contains no bird, it's like calling just a chicken an "opal steak-junglefowl." It's just nonsense smashed together, much like ground meat or my brain.
1:05:47 “Czerka Slugthrower” - translated into English, this means a bullet-based gun produced by Amazon.
'Herky Jerky" was used in the very good Star Wars: X-Wing: Rogue squadron by Mike Stackpole. But it was ONCE for a human being landing askew. And wasn't phrased like Ned Flander said it. "HERKILY JERKILY NEIGHBORINO."
I actually love the term "herky jerky" because of its use in the novelization of the manga _Bizenghast._ It very effectively describes how the... jester-spider-creature Bali Lali moves in an unsettling, mechanical way, much like a wind-up toy. Since then, I've often used the term in my own writing to describe uncanny, inhuman movement.
But yeah, "herkily jerkily" does sound like what Ned Flanders would call a handjob.
@@Silburific Jesus fuck man I never even considered that part. Herky jerky also works best for something with limbs, not spacecraft.
@@Silburific I would appreciate it if you never bring up the idea of a Flandjob ever again.
Another funny aspect of the "this ship and I are like a moth" line is that moths are especially easy to catch.
Right a fly i would be better but flys are not as cool as moths
Yeah i dont get the author. Moths are really slow and easy to catch. I dont do it because they dont really bother me and i'd have to clean afterwards. Also i doubt people who have NEVER BEEN TO EARTH know what a moth is. Earth fauna wouldnt exist on other planets. Worldbuilding 101
@@orionhan2431 I agree for the most part, I think something like a moth could definitely evolve on a different planet, same quirks and all, but they probably wouldn't be called moths.
@@AlphaNinjaFTW1 Ducks exist. So does the sitting duck phrase.
@@DIEGhostfish i stand corrected, they can have moths than
Wendig could've become the next Timothy Zahn with his trilogy, instead he became Chuck Wendig. It's not uncommon for authors to say 'Don't Wendig that opportunity!' to each other when they hear about someone getting a big break.
Wendig they start saying that?
@@lingricen8077 they've just started to Chuck it out there.
Both of you stand in the corner
@@darthbane97 wendiGO stand in the corner?
@@alisaurus4224 you go join them
I tried to check this book out a while ago because a bunch of "nerdy sites" insisted it was brilliant. Legitimately thought I was reading the wrong one at first 🤦♀️ but nope, Wendig somehow has a _fanbase_ who are convinced he's the smartest guy to ever put pen to paper. Smh.
You just don't get it man, you don't understand the intellect and nuance in a line like "Herky-jerky".
All of those "Nerdy sites" get free stuff from Disney (exclusives, early review copies, etc.)
They would tell you that "The room" was a masterpiece just to not lose their access to that.
it's kinda great that you're reviewing chuck wendig's writing because a thing happened with another "book" he wrote that was reviewed on another youtube channel--which unfortunately was taken down by chuck himself. it was one of those "how to become a writer" books and this one had 1,001 tips on writing--which ultimately was just the same 25 tips regurgitated and bastardized enough to fool the reader into thinking they're a thousand unique tips. it's also filled with some...rather iffy opinions about being a writer
I can only hope that you giving chuck wendig's writing a well-deserved thrashing doesn't end up being taken down the same way the other channel did with their rundown on his writing
The dude is so hypersensitive that for someone that wrote a book about writing tips sure as hell don’t know how to be professional when given any critique.
Oooh, don't forget there's also him having been one of the more vocal people in demanding internet archive be shut down just because a couple of his books were there
Chuck Wendig feels like the writing personification of trying to treat worldbuilding as lore.
Writers who treat world-building as lore exposition than an importance of narrative and character purpose is a sign of bad writing. Authors like Robert Jordan, Gene Wolfe, Brandon Sanderson, Steven Erikson, George RR Martin, Ursula Le Guin, Sir Terry Pratchett, Tolkien, Tamora Pierce treat world-building like a character. They understand because they actually go out their way to make it feel part of the narrative and characters than a salad dressing for just plot and characters that aren’t affected by it. Chuck fails to understand the most simplest aspect of writing fantasy/sci-fi because he ignores those good advices for something hackneyed.
You forgot Eiichiro Oda
@@starmaker75 I’m talking about western specifically. But I’ll let him slide.
As someone who grew up with the EU in all it's glory and mess, it's nice to know that even stinkers like Darksaber weren't this bad.
Hell, I hate the crystal star but I’d rather read that again than this drivel
This narration reads like the draft I make before starting my FIRST draft.
...
Kinda makes me feel better about my writing if nothing else.
Isn't whatever draft you make first you first draft by definition?
@@cadencehouse539
It's more of a very detailed outline than a draft.
I'm not even a writer and *still* feel more competent than Chuck Wending
Reminds me of a Ralphthemoviemaker quote:
"People ask me how to make a movie. The answer is easy, just do it. If these morons could do it, then you can too."
Of course it's fucking Chuck Windig. Recently watched a channel go over his "writing tips" and about 99% of his tips are insulting women, glamorizing mental illness or alcoholism in writers, insulting the homeless, insulting fat people, unnecessarily violent descriptions, and descriptions of things that sound like they're probably his fetishes, to use as metaphors for the most basic writing advice I could have gotten anywhere else-- and then immediately contradicting himself making it unclear what advice he actually wants you to take.
Edit: he's also the guy who tried to sue the Internet Archive.
Diregentleman, by any chance?
@@nat9504 Yep
How did he get a job to write something from Disney's IP? I mean he sounds exactly like the guy Disney is against (or so they would like the general public to believe).
@@mahogara I don't know. Most of his writing tips are publically available on his author blog, so it's not like any of this stuff is really hidden.
@@mahogara Wendig is the type of person who makes shallow/skin-deep appeals to whatever views are "in" at the moment as a smokescreen for his shitty actions. The standard "I can't *possibly* be a bad person because I believe (or claim to believe, anyway) in [INSERT GOOD THING(s) HERE]" schtick. He's a serial grifter, in other words, and the Mouse fell for it.
I do feel the need to point out that Mr. Bones is basically the canon version of of HK-47, since to my knowledge he’s not been introduced into canon himself. So the best character in the story isn’t even really his own.
At one point he literally says a HK line and then the other characrers are confused
He's HK-47, but with knives. and the visual of a B1 kicking ass instead of getting mowed down like a piece of scrap metal.
Honestly Mr. Bones needs more to set him apart from HK, and I hope another writer does something with him some day
@@Mobysimo He shows up in lego ST the Skywalker saga
Kotor 1&2 (restored content mods) are the only canon. Everything else is a shitty fanfic. Except maybe the better Lego games.
@@Anon26535 EVERYTHING else? No need to dismiss decades of real writers’ work just because Disney did.
Star Wars lore: slug throwers are guns that fire physical rounds. Typically bullets. These became popular during the Mandalorian Wars against Jedi to ensure they couldn’t redirect the mandalorians’ gunfire.
They are also called Slug Throwers as they are super primitive with the most advanced ones slapping a magnetic booster on to a Elephant Rifle.
In short, “PARRY THIS CASUAL.”
Why use blasters when we have _REAL GUN_
@@wendeviant2475 Well I think the Jedi could still parry it but the idea was the projectiles would be vaporized/destroyed by hitting the lightsaber and therefore unable to be bounced back at the mandalorian shooters.
@@charlesboudreau5350 nah, the metal melts against the heat of the saber. Attempting to deflect a bullet just gets you a face full of molten slag.
I was making a rewrite for Richard Connell’s “the most dangerous game” and when you said that he thought the second draft was just fixing typos, I literally laughed out loud. I literally rewrote the entire story at the second draft.
I didn't even finish my short story and I'm already rewriting it like 4 times lmao
"How did Wedge manage to get into the Star Destroyer?"
Well he obviously climbed in through a window, Krimson. Clearly that's a thing you can do in Wendig's version of Star Wars.
I Vote for a Ventilation shaft. Cuz why Not.
Tbf, firing at an exhaust Port that looks Kind of Like a Ventilation shaft is Close enough to make it make sense in Star wars, the universe where you can shatter Windows in space without turning every living Thing into Red mist.
Maybe he rode a golden torpedo through a window, a la Star Crash.
Remember when leia flew through space?
@@bloozism I don;t understand why so many hate that scene, besides lacking effects. She was a (undertrained) Jedi after all in near death situation.
@@antonisauren8998 because it's stupid? Jedi don't just fly through space like their own personal space ships. It's moronic. Imagine yoda just saying "lmao I don't need a starship watch this"
Chuck's tweet about LOTR just proves that he has less of an understanding of it than I did as a 10 year old. Also, very happy you're enjoying Heir, the Thrawn trilogy as a whole is very good, and the point I recommend people start with if they want to get into Legends content.
Legends, the true canon.
@@ThatDangBee lmfao Legends is trash, even the Thrawn trilogy is overratted, campy schlock
Alternatively, I would recommend the Coruscant Nights trilogy, the Courtship of Princess Leia, or Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor.
Well maybe Chuck thinks that star wars doesn't have a choisen one is because Disney fucked up the destiny thing because Anikin didn't kill palpatine in their damned fan fiction
@@TetsuRiken from what it sounded like to me, Anakin did kill Palpatine, but it was through dark and unnatural means through the Dark Side, Palpatine was brought back to life and this isn’t something that is exclusive to Disney Star Wars because in Star Wars Legends Palpatine was brought back to life after Anakin had killed him.
"They made a ton of games" They gave EA the exclusive publishing rights and in 5 years they released 3 games, one of which was so bad it started a international conversation about the ethics of loot boxes and caused Disney to revoke their exclusivity rights. Didn't help The Last Jedi also had come out around this time and frankly Star Wars already had started to circle the drain in terms of long term profitability.
As a kid, Star Wars games were everywhere. From my supernintendo to my Playstation 2/GameCube, handheld and console, even if I didn't 'really' like the prequel movies, they created great backdrops for games. I couldn't escape Star Wars, it was everywhere. With the new Trilogy, all I saw were a bunch of toys in discount bins while I did my regular shopping, and I don't know if I've played any EA Star Wars games. I'd hear about them being canceled more often than released. As far as circular marketing, movies promoting the games which promoted the movies... the sequel trilogy failed. I watched episode 7, thought... meh... I'll see how it turns out, and never bothered. From what I know of the Disney movies, they don't sound like my cuo of tea, but selling exclusive rights to EA for the games I think hampered them more than they could imagine.
@@ignorethis214 Trust me, you're better pretending things ended after ROTJ and going into the Thrawn Trilogy.
I started playing Battlefront 2 a couple months ago, and I’m glad they improved it into a great game. Shame it was so botched at launch.
I like listening to this from time to time, just reviewing what NOT to do if I ever get into writing, and wondering why Mr. Bones was so good compared to everyone else but finally realized today: it's because Mr. Bones doesn't think or have exposition. Mr. Bones just acts and reacts. Interesting and sad that the reason one character works is probably unintended on Wendig's part.
And he’s basically HK-47 if he got his computer brains scooped out.
For some reason the first thing that came to mind when you made the comparison between nervous tics that aren't used and a character that says they hate ice cream and then eats ice cream all the time was this concept:
A character that starts the book decrying that they hate ice cream, but is shown casually eating ice cream with their kid repeatedly throughout to show their connection with the kid and willingness to reach out and share things they love to get closer to them, even without enjoying it much themselves.
Absolutely not relevant but that was just the thought. Time to watch the rest of the video lol
You could use the tick to have it regular, aside when he is angry , when he is too angry to think, only of what angers him. Or when it could be he felt so good too shocked.
That can be powerful. Not sure if it works that way, but it could be a sign a person is in an unusual strong emoptional mindset. Like with the kid, he enjoys that so much he doesnt care eating ice cream
Good point.
Fun fact: According to Chuck, he got fired because of how he acted on Twitter.
Live by Twitter, die by Twitter.
Wish this happened more often, especially in books and the comic industry. Maybe with less time on Twitter they could write better stories lol.
@@TMac-os1hy You honestly think this would be the case, considering that proof they are terrible people is literally made available to everyone, but apparently respecting human rights isn't THAT important to companies. Like, let there be some benefit to how poorly Twitter stops hate speak.
@@J.R.Unbound You can say anything you want to on Twitter as long as you espouse a leftist worldview, up to and including endorsing pedophilia. But the second you show signs of being a conservative, you get shadowbanned, and that's if you're LUCKY.
You sure it isn't because he's a crap writer that even the crap writers at Disney/Lucas thought was crap? :D
Everytime Krimson makes a video:
Me: *frantically taking notes on the books on his shelf, to find more awesome stuff to read*
Also, it's awesome to see that I'm not the only one who reads a mixture of adult and young reader books :D
Variety is the spice of life, as it were.
Wedge Antilles was, in EU canon, an incredible badass who was called out of retirement three times because the galaxy needed him. That version of Wedge would never beg for mercy.
But in Disney canon, they must denigrate everyone who isn't the Chosen Donut Steels, because how will the Donut Steels look awesome if anyone else is awesome?
Am I: a person who has never watched any Star Wars media, going to watch a three hour long video of Book Jesus analyzing a terrible book based on it? yes, yes I am.
you should watch some star wars media, but i respect the fact that despite your lack of prior knowledge you still carry out your task.
Star Wars is two and half good movies covered in 50 years of garbage.
Not really worth the time of day, imo.
Same here friend. Live long and prosper X3
@@firstname4382 Agreed, but disagree that it's not worth the time of day. I've always been attracted to the franchise by the atlases and video games. Later, as an adult, I started reading the books and many are pretty good. It has a very HUGE universe which is a great place for roleplaying settings, fanfiction, and general creativity.
In Legends, the Thrawn Trilogy, Hand of Duology, and Republic Commando books are all really good. The X-Wing series has horrible political dialogue, but great action and interesting romance. In canon, pretty much anything written by Claudia Gray is readable to good, and the Phasma book was great.
It's clear to me now that George Lucas was part of the problem with why Star Wars is so shit. Disney's decision to canon-wipe everything except his movies and start from scratch by hiring new directors to write plot ended up exacerbating the problem tenfold.
You should watch the original trilogy. It's fun.
I think an "Emerald Kofta Grouse" is a bird that shines like the most beautiful and fine emerald that mankind has ever seen. As such they are often hunted and are considered to be an critically endangered species. Due to their rarity and protected status, they are traded in the criminal under belly of the galaxy by smugglers, slavers, bounty hunters, and other criminals. There, I no nothing of this creature, I just made that all up.
I think it looks like a swan
I think it's a chicken 🐓
I would like to thank you for referring me to "Star War The Third Gathers: The Backstroke of the West". I didn't know that this monumental masterwork was actually available fully dubbed on youtube. I'm lying in tears here, laughing at this cultural masterpiece of a more civilized times...
The pre-Disney EU wasn't perfect, but it was a lot of fun. Definitely check out anything by Aaron Allston. As soon as the EU lost its semi-canon status, I was out.
I’ve recently gone back to the pre-Disney stuff, and boy did it remind me of why I loved Star Wars. Disney’s “canon” is watered down and soulless by comparison
Hell even read death troopers as well
Darth Bane Darth Reven and Kreia all really fucking great characters that disney fucked everything up also they tired to pull a Kreia with Kylo and it failed because they didn't understand how to do that sort of thing because they fucking hacks
@@TetsuRiken You mean Kreia? Spectacular character
@@kevinericsnell4092 yes yes sorry I am bad with names sometimes
1:11:00 actually there is and I actually learned about it today. "Death Star" is actually an unofficial designation which became official because of widespread use. The name came about partly because the station's official designation was Deepspace (Battle) Station-01 which got anagramed to DS-1, so it earned the nickname "Death Star" as a shorthand by Imperial personal, which at the time didn't elude to much about what the project actually was other than it probably being space related and brings about death. Eventually it just became the station's name proper because of how popular it had become, over saying "Deep Space Battle Station Zero-One." The Empire had also planned to publicly rename the Death Star to "Freedom Star" and use it as their mobile seat of Government after they had defeated the Rebellion.
Of course this is all EU. Dunno what the Canon explanations are beyond Project Stardust.
Huh. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Canon or not, that's a good explanation.
@@KrimsonRogue Your welcome. Also, I don't know if I missed it in your video so sorry if I'm restating something you already knew, but Mr. Bones was apparently a homage to a very popular Assassin Droid character from the EU called HK-47. I can't remember if it was in this book or one of the others, but there's a scene where he has a brief glitch and speaks in a similar manner to HK - on top of using his catchphrase.
But yeah, wow this book was bad. Thanks for making it enjoyable for us. :)
I didn't know that. I thought it was simply due to the fact it was "dead" (being artifical) and because its light is the last thing its enemies ever see.
To see the light of this "star" is to see death coming for you.
"A battle station that would have been dubbed the 'Freedom Star.'"
I see the Empire is taking their naming conventions from the US military
Personally I would have gone with Peace Moon but Freedom Star works too
I love listening to you tear apart books.
1.It's a great thing to just listen to in the background.
2. It gives me writing tips
3. it restores my faith in my writing ability
^ I work at a bookstore and I say that almost on the daily. The amount of trash that gets published compared to great works that don't is mind boggling.
The thing I am still most salty about when it comes to disney star wars, is that they had these amazing novels by Timothy Zahn and just tossed them out of the window. I get the need to overhaul some stuff, since legends became a hot mess at some point. However, the story is just miles better than anything in the sequels or lore in between. If they wanted to center it around a female character, they could have told the story from Mara Jades perspective. She has been a fan favourite for ages. And don't get me started on Thrawn. He is one of the most beloved villains in all of star wars. But no, instead of him we got the edgy, angsty walmart version of vader.
Legends had a great system. Every once in a while RPG sourcebooks came around and reorganized everything into a more coherent picture.
20:16 If there's one thing Wedge Antilles looks forward to after the war, it's not settling down with his loved ones. It's not being shot at less often. It's not: no longer seeing his friends get killed. No, it's an upgraded smartphone.
That's all Antilles wants.
Because Antilles is a total psychopath."
There are so many things wrong with just that one paragraph.
I think Wendig getting a job to write official StarWars lore is both hilarious and telling. Disney entrusted there new franchise to some rando, which kinda what happened to both the video games and movies for a while.
Thank fuck we have Charles Soule now. There's a good fucking writer. Who doesn't need to remind that the book is in space every twenty minutes
oh it wasn't disney that hired this mook it was Lucasfilm as they were scrambling to find authors who actually wanted to write star wars stories after Lucasfilm kind of burned every bridge they had by not paying their previous authors their royalties. only 2 good authors came from this early mad dash for content and those were Claudia Grey and Charles Soule and to this day they have been the heart and soul of the new EU.
@@exilestudios9546 They have both written amazing things. Especially Soule
@@Mobysimo I like soule's work but grey has honestly made some of my all time favorite star wars books. To me she is the zahn of the new EU.
I couldn't read this book. The prose was terrible so I plugged some of it into a text analyzer. It's written at an American Grade 4 reading level. I don't know if that's intentional, but even kids deserve fewer sentence fragments.
I kept marking up the pages as an editor should have done!
A 4th grade reading level doesn't surprise me at all.
Remember, Disney Star Wars is meant for kids. It's why I groan when I heard Kenobi is rated 9+.
Though in fairness, I always thought Star Wars became a victim of its own success. It tries so hard to keep everyone happy that nobody is happy at the end of the day.
@@neocomp92 Right. Lucas started out making a Sci-Fi film. Disney's making throw-away kid's content.
Ever read Jar-Jar’s depressing story in that book…!?
@@fernie-fernandez Couldn't stand to read something so poorly written. Pages of red ink and I quit.
"I know writers who use subtext and they're all cowards" had me cracking up 😂😂😂
thats from a show called “Garth Marenghu’s Dark Place” a full-on satire about a smug self-important author who adapts one of his books into a tv show, casting himself as the lead chatacter and hiring a bunch of amateurs to make the show.
It is shot in a documentary style of the Author discussing the episode he created and then showing parts of the episode.
So its good actors playing bad actors playing well-conceived poorly-written characters.
Very Britishly doesn’t explain the jokes.
@@lingricen8077That's beautifully convoluted. I love it.
I think I've realized what this book has that makes it feel so wrong in so many ways. Its Passionately bankrupt. At no point can you see any sense of passion in the text by the author, which is either a testament to how phoned in of a job this is or how bad of a writer Chuck is. In all the books in the description, you can see some passion somewhere in the text, heck, for Empress Theresa, that's all its got going for it. Here it feels like a teenager writing an essay for an English assignment, sure, they'll do it, matching all the expected requirements, but they don't care about what's actually being said, they only want the grade. Swap grades for a hefty Disney paycheck and you have yourself this book.
i am absolutely terrified...both of this book and book jesus losing his trademark hair
The shirt sometimes covering the "Pi" and spelling "Onion" in that phrase looks like ominous flashback to those three *"excellent"* books that were made by the Onion boi himself Greg
Everyone is entitled to my onion.
cepibolla jajaja
Good on you for donating your majestic locks to children going through chemo. When I was in grade school, our janitor at my school did the same thing for Locks of Love. We even had a school assembly all about him cutting his hair with a joke thrown in about using garden sheers to do the deed (even brought those things on stage). I never heard so many kids cheer for a man getting his hair cut for charity. Twas a good day for us children.
You're currently reading the first Star Wars book I ever read, while reviewing the last Star Wars book I read. The Thrawn trilogy was the first book series I read that made me /want/ to read. It was what turned me into a book lover. Cuck Wingding's abhorrent travesty of a word salad is the last Star Wars 'book' I'll read so long as Disney controls the IP.
I dunno, Lords of the Sith was pretty good
Timothy Zahn's new Thrawn trilogy set in the current canon is pretty good from what I've heard.
@@PLATINUM_Rook Absolutely, the first book in particular is fantastic. I'd highly recommend it, it shows everything about how Thrawn was found by and integrated into the Empire and it shows not only how much of a great detective he is, but how he also takes another Imperial cadet under his wing because he recognizes his skills when not that many other people would have. The third book even goes into his relationship with Anakin and Vader and how he figures out they're the same person, and Vader's reactions to how Thrawn treats them as one and the same is just great. Anyone that rights off the entire canon EU because of one book has no idea what they're talking about
@@nagger8216 I've only recently tried getting into the EU outside of things like The Mandalorian or the video games, both Legends and Canon. When I was little I tried reading The New Rebellion, and I had some of the books in the Rebel Force series.
As of the past few years I've picked up Kenobi, The Old Republic: Revan, Lords of the Sith, Tarkin, Thrawn, The Thrawn Trilogy, I forget he name but it's about Obi-Wan and Anakin before Episode II, Visions: Ronin, and some of the Darth Vader comics.
2:51:00 there's a quote that circles around military circles (or, in my case, military historian circles) that goes something like this "Fools discuss battles. Experts discuss logistics." It doesn't matter how many tactical battles one wins, if one doesn't have a strategic/logistic edge (or at least equal-enough footing), one can never win the war. Take for example the 100 years war, where the English beat the French in battle after battle. They still ultimately lost the war, at least in part, because England just didn't have the resources to keep fighting the French, while the French could replace loses. It's quite telling that the height of England's dominance during the war was when France was in the middle of a civil war, therefor had far less resources and those resources had to be diverted to other issues.
"The Empire was not known for its roomy architecture."
Me, who played Battlefront 1 and 2 and often fell off the paths in the roomy Death Star battles: 👁️👄👁️ ???!!
Cut to Star Destroyer bridge
why did you type me in your own comment? Weirdo
Emperor Palpatine may disagree with that assessment
Which battlefront, the dice one or the real one?
@@tivvy2vs21 The old PS2 games.
An Emerald Kofta-Grouse mostly gets their looks from their father the famous Franz Kofta. But the coloring comes from it's mother Minny Grouse from the planet Chlorophyllia. If you can't picture that I don't know what to tell you.
"Breadbasket" feels like such an antiquated term. I am superannuated myself, and even in my youth "breadbasket" had that "boxer from the 50s" sound to it.
Krimson Rogue is gonna cut his luscious locks: How dare you!?
It's for a kid's charity: It is... acceptable.
As someone who has read the full Aftermath trilogy, trust me when I say that everything you brought up in this video applies to the other two books, and if anything, gets worse. Chuck is a master of the unfired Chekov gun. So many small details get added in or mentioned purely to pad out the word count, and not to contribute anything to the story. In a big space combat scene, he specifcally mentions that the New Republic is fielding a single prototype T-70 X-Wing for the first time amid a squad of regular X-Wings. Great, so I'm sure we'll get a mention about how it performs far better than the normal ones to justify why he mentioned it in the first place...Aaand it's never mentioned again. So many potentially interesting ideas contained in the interludes too that just never get mentioned again. Therapy Ewoks. Sounds absurd, but the process by which New Republic anthropologists are able to explain concepts like psychotherapy to a tool age tribe to the point they agree to go off world to help soldiers with PTSD would be fascinating. Too bad Chuck doesn't give this idea anything more than a single throw away line.
The fact this is the guy who got write the Battle of Jakku is just... sad.
The other times we see the battle it looks amazing, but we've got someone who can't really write a bar fight writing a massive ass battle with ships going up in flames left right and center
Don't ewoks eat humans
@@barryallen2240 No they just use their decapitated heads as instruments
The other problem is Chuck has an inflated ego but can’t write a story without schizopherincially jumping around to random characters with no plot importance as non sequiturs to try and pad out his books run time. The first book took me about 3 reads to understand what was going on or who the main characters even were as the side chapters he writes are written identically to the main story and feature brand new characters almost every time. Then he just meanders on between somewhat important events with a barely comprehensible string of continuity between a small group who constantly splits up or loses one or two members. This guy spent more time writing out what amounts to a quid pro qo/business transaction because he can make it the aftermath of a gay sex scene than he does writing a compelling reason why we should give two shit about any of the main characters.
17 minutes in and I’m already laughing, god this is going to be good.
Akbar after surviving almost a decade of rebellion against the Empire with a true 4 year civil war after the destruction of the 1st Death Star: “The wars just beginning boys”
God it’s like if someone during the American Civil War of WW2 or Napoleonic war or (insert here) decided that after 4 years of brutal warfare - in which they’ve been winning - now the wars just begun. Not when the tides turned - usually when that phrase is used and normally in a different context/meaning.
The dumbest part is that in this continuity, the Empire's final defeat only comes a year after Endor. "Just the beginning" my ass.
Krim, if you want to continue the Thrawn saga, I recommend this reading list:
- Heir to the Empire
- Dark Force Rising
- The Last Command
- Specter of the Past
- Vision of the Future
- Survivor's Quest
- Outbound Flight
- Thrawn
- Thrawn: Alliances
- Thrawn: Treason
- Chaos Rising
- Greater Good
- Lesser Evil
I hate that somehow Thrawn books don't read as well as other things for me. I am a very slow reader and Zahn feels even slower. I am hoping to read Dark Force Rising and Treason soon.
Im curious.
Where can I begin?
@@kevinthepilgrim Heir to the Empire then follow the list for the rest of the story
If there is a Chosen One in LotR, then it's not a "tired trope" when they do it. It's more like "Seinfeld Is Unfunny": People think a trope in a work is old and seen-before, not realising it's usage in that work is one of the first appearances.
There's not a chosen one in lotr and even if there was it wouldn't be the first one ever lol did you forget Greek heroes and such
@@leahdavis9434 Yes.
@@leahdavis9434 Aragon is pretty close, but it's more of a, "destined to become one of the greatest kings of Gondor" than, "destined to save the world."
Ironically, the only other character like that is Gollum, as Gandalf knew he would be important, even if it wasn't clear how; in which case, LOTR would actually be one of the first subversions of the trope.
I still haven't forgiven this book for making me think this was going to be a Wedge and Admiral Sloane story only for it be mostly about nobodies I don't care about, and don't appear outside of the series.
"I'm not a gunner, I'm a pilot"
The moth explodes
"And that is why the ship just stopped all evasive maneuvers" The tie fighter pilot said over coms.
"And what makes you say that Dave?" A response crackled over coms.
"Well we knew a woman was on the ship-" Dave was cut off
"Sounds pretty sexist to me, it was probably just a mutiny"
"A mutiny? In the middle of a dogfight? Really Steven?"
"OH like your idea was any better."
"Hey, from what the report said about her-"
"Don't forget your sexsim Dave."
"I am not sexist."
"If you say so dude"
"Forget it, you ruined the moment. Let's just confirm their deaths in the wreckage."
"Tell me how anyone could survive that, we are in space?"
"Why don't you tell me, you were there when that cargoship blew itself up and the pilot some how snuck on board Steven."
"You are never going to let me live that one down are you?"
"Not a chance."
you had me at "the moth explodes" and EVEEERYTHING else was just icing on the exploding moth cake
37:03 I think something like “by the stars” or “stars, no” in a vaccum is fine bc it sort of implies that stars are a form of deity for whatever character is saying it, which could be interesting, but it’s not in a vacuum and I highly doubt that much thought was put behind it other than “this takes place in space, what’s a thing in space I can reference”