Don't fall for the antifa trap
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- čas přidán 2. 10. 2017
- The media's panic about antifa reflects an old bias in the way journalists cover protest movements.
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If you were watching this video for the 1st time in 2020, you’d think this video was a few weeks old or something...but no it was released almost 3 years ago.
PJW's videos on BLM also seem like few weeks old but are 3-4 years old...
Right true story
These are clowns of the white world. All rejects from broken homes anti family, anti religion, anti humans, lost souls with nothing else to do in life by living on welfare or living in their family's basements for their entire existence. Scumbags.
It popped up on my recommendation , and honestly I thought was recently new video until I saw the dates they displayed 😂
Wow...
Don't scroll down ... its all bad
Ur right
thanks for the warning :D
agreed.
Yup
I'll go look anyways but thanks for the warning.
2017: "Not causing that much havoc"
2020: "Mostly peaceful"
2017: "not causing that much havoc" (professor smashes man with bike lock, another professor calls on students to "take out" an independent reporter)
2020: " mostly peaceful" (multiple cities destroyed, burned, and looted)
**for those who will inevitably lack context in the future because of the already sweeping wave of censorship**
@@sarkasticninja6902 Shut up.
@@dumigamez397 am i wrong tho????
@@sarkasticninja6902 Yes, absolutely.
@@dumigamez397 how exactly was i wrong?
This is why Mahatma Gandhi used to stop the whole movement even if a small group uses violence in the name of the movement.
“Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.” -Gandhi
He was only peaceful because the British took their guns away
@@triscuitbiscuit7173 as an Indian, you guys don't know the half of it.
@Jayan Wexby he used to do experiments with women.
@Dipankar Paik yeah just don't know why we don't see that on our history books...you know to teach us some self control 😅
Ghandi engaged in many acts of violence. Self-harm, trespassing, hunger-strike, disruptions. Violence is an incredibly valuable tool, but can also be harmful to a movement
He isn't trying to defend antifa, the "antifa trap" is ignoring the message of a large protest or movement because of a small group of bad actors. He isn't excusing antifa violence.
@@imperfect470 This video is EXTREMELY relevant in the wake of these protests too.
@@vontrances4667 this video is so relevant right now
the problem though is that most of antifa is violent or permits violence
@@noname-nn2ku you are missing the point, he does not claim that only some of antifa are violent but that only some of the people at those protest are violent. You are conflating attending a protest with being antifa.
@@andrewbisset4572 oh okay,I understand. Attending a protest doesn't mean you are part of antifa but it just annoys me when people try to defend antifa
“Occasionally engage in violence” LOL
thruxbeinxxcool I’d describe the alt right and mass shootings the same way, they are occasional events.
@@anotherks7297 Why are you comparing a political stance and literal acts of hatred like they're the same thing?
Beverly Williams because the entire "political stance" is based on hatred of minorities
@@anotherks7297 Why even mention them? Are you trying to justify the actions of Antifa?
@@anotherks7297 excpet antifa isnt occasional if their is any kind of right wing rally antifa shows up to hurt people.
“They wear masks”
How did they know corona was a thing?
r/youngpeopleyoutube
@@RIPStudioOfficial yet you have a roblox profile pic and use Reddit
@@RIPStudioOfficial r/Iusereddit
which timestamp?
Guess similar to the hoods others wear.
it’s the fact that no one says “antifa” the same way for me
You fool, they intentionally did that to make the opposition look silly.
Its June 17th of 2020, and I'm sure this video is getting a lot of replays.
Yep
At 2:10 I thought for a second this is a recent video actually.
Today it is August 1, 2020... Lots of replays
sept 4. nobody's buying this hustle anymore. lol
You clearly did not watch through the video rofl.
"Dog bites man isn't news. Man bites dog - that's news" - W. Randolph Hearst
@@jedaki1832 I mean, we don't see coverage for Americans eating pig, even though pigs have comparable intelligence to human babies
@@jedaki1832 1. It’s an isolated case in a town 2. It did get a bunch of news coverage, how would I even know that happened?
"Dog bites cow, deputy tases cow, cow kicks deputy": an actual headline
ANTIFA should be sent to fight The taliban
The Taliban will eat them for breakfast.
they actually fought. feminists also publically rallied against taliban
This is a well known phenomenon. That's why it's crucial for peaceful demonstrators to enforce the peaceful part, so the media can't divert from the cause to cover outliers' violence.
The Antifa who aren't necessarily violent provide aid, comfort and cover to those who are. That makes them accessories.
@@cozzietwothousand2707 Next time, watch the vid before opining: you'll sound less asinine.
The dislike ratio
Oily butter That is the work of bought trolls, such as yourself, working their magic! When you go against the big wigs of the right wing nut jobs they use their power. Which, isn’t much being CZcams likes and comments lol
Marvin Carey No u
Marvin Carey has their own opinion on left wing terrorists- must be trolls
oof that is not pretty
no u
And of course they didn't show the g20 Hamburg riots
A.D.D Gaming yes they did, the last piece of demonstration footage shows a person holding a sign saying "Trump St. Pauli Verbot", so that was clearly from Hamburg.
Gott Mit Uns No, they didn't. Because that is not what the story was all about.
Gott Mit Uns I don't think you get the video. There is no denying Antifa sucks and just wants violence for no reason. The problem is with the media not reporting the actual protest in a proper way. Instead, they are sensationalists and just focus on the violence caused by Antifa, so the problem the protest addresses gets overshadowed. and that's exactly what happened in Hamburg
This one focuses on the US tho.
lightsoff17 they focus on violence because people being violent and using masks to hide their identities is a crime. Crime is newsworthy. Plenty of outlets have gone into the peaceful protests, this is not new. Antifa is only now being shown in negative fashion because they are a terrorist group.
I feel like this happens to all types of protests though. Whether right, left ir centre its always about the violent parts
That's the main point of the video.
When her there been a radical centrist riot though?
that's basically the point of the video i'd say
@@violet-trash cause they’re centrist and wouldn’t protest about something from another spectrum because they’re centrists
@@violet-trash I'm a centrist, and we are more likely to have radical centrists kicking other radical centrists than attacking left or right
Yes, ignore that guy going around stabbing people because he's only stabbed like, what, five people?
That doesn't make any sense and has no relevant or logical comparison to the discussed topic, 65/100, you've failed the course
This aged well
That deserves an award. Like if there were global comment awards I would nominate this
been going on for decades in Europe, i guess its quite new to the states.
@@l01l01l01l01l01l no
@@l01l01l01l01l01l he was
@@l01l01l01l01l01l why
I am on the left of the political spectrum but I have to say that the argument on this video can also be used for the right wing. Whenever a conservative protest takes place, reporters also tend to look for the extremist members.
The problem is right wing "protests" are much more violent, and we have evidence to prove that, plus their very message is one of violence. "Antifa" has never killed a single person nor aimed to. Not really comparable. We can very easily draw that line
Pink Guy There were no confirmed ties to Antifa though in the Portland protests. You can believe what you want, but right-wing extremists have confirmed murders. Antifa however do not, and those are the facts whether you want to believe them or not.
Dave Almighty I’m aware of the deaths, but there is no factual evidence that these were related to Antifa besides the fact that they occurred in the same riot.
@@moosesandmeese969 Those dang right wingers. Standing inside buildings instead if burning them down. Absolute terrorist
@@moosesandmeese969 BAHAHAHAHAHA. NEVER KILLED ANYONE? BAHAHAHAHAHA
I know this is a volatile subject , but I could not stop thinking about the mic peaking in this video.
Teh same can be said of coverage of conservative protests... doesnt matter the protest, left or right, conservative or liberal, the media focusses on the violent.
People like tragedy
This comment section is going to be a
REASONABLE DISCUSSION!
is it ever?
Anurag Arya, nice joke. 😂😂😂
LMAO
Nicely done Anurag Arya... Cicero is pleased =D
You're a strange animal, that's what I know.
Every time I watch this video it amazes me how many people seem to miss the point.
It makes me laugh as it REALLY did not age well, as they're literally burning down the country and forming "autonomous zones" in cities literally becoming warlords
@@jackp.richardson6415 What is the bad aging? (or the REALLY bad aging).
@@jackp.richardson6415 You are just falling for the Fox News Trump trap. Provide the evidence that Antifa is behind all the violence and looting or shut up.
Jack P. Richardson Do you know what a warlord is? A warlord is a singular person. The autonomous community in Seattle and Portland are communally managed (aka not a singular person) and are very peaceful. They are basically just peaceful sanctuaries where Protestors can get free food. They aren’t going around demanding tribute from the residents.
@@jackp.richardson6415 Seriously, the topic of this video is basically the end: "News cameras are always looking for the worst most radical people who decide to show up to a protest. But those outliers don't offer you meaningful information about who most protesters are, what they're protesting about, or whether they're right. Those are are the questions that actually matter. And they're the ones that get lost in endless debates about fringe groups like Antifa."
Seriously, that's the topic of this video, how the media fails to cover protests the way we need them to. But somehow, that's not what a lot of people get out it. It's a mystery.
It was communism first now it’s anarchism.
What?
@@picklechin2716 communism was first targeted as a no-no now anarchism is not tolerated by media
@@RealPeppaPigXD Elaborate? How is "the media" anything like an economic system?
Anarchism has been around forever pally…
The media needs to stop showing only what they want to show, show EVERYTHING. Show the truth
The media reporting the truth...
Thanks dude, I needed a good laugh.
The lack of self awareness in this video is comical
going against CZcams's mob opinions = lacking self-awareness
Greg Fletcher the lack of testosterone in this video is comical
Barack Obama
antifa is a fringe group on the left just like neo-nazis are a fringe group on the right. Both groups are despicable but are insignificant and pose no statistically significant threat to anyone.
This video describes exactly what the media does to both groups, while only looking at it through Vox's progressive tinted glasses
its almost like they get funding from the same place as antifa xd
Greg Fletcher, Millions of dollars of damage to local businesses and state properties is statistically significant.
You literally picked on Tucker Carlson for "cherry picking" events, while you just cherry picked antifa protests
How did he? He picked the last few big riots. In order to confirm actual cherry picking you'll have to show all the figures from all the riots and conclusively show he used examples of the most peaceful riots. Otherwise it's not cherry picking it's just using examples.
Christopher Kirkland another idiot thinking communists even remotely agree with liberals. Educate yourself
Christopher Kirkland you didn't address anything I said at all. I don't like antifa either. I don't think they're this bogeyman cause I think they're largely just noisy and ineffectual but yeah I don't think anyone who goes to a rally intent on causing physical violence or property damage is helping. It's possible to dislike both sides lmao. And yeah ideologically I'd rather side with antifa than literal neo Nazis but it doesn't mean I like antifas actions. So I disagree with both sides actions but the neo Nazis have a much worse ideology
Antifa is not fighting Nazis they are attacking anyone who fights against Leftwing ideological Hegemony
MR.Chickennuget 360 which are mostly Nazis or alt right
Fox News: Right Wing
Vox News: Left Wing
Didn’t Vox denounce the USSR?
@@rusty3073 ah yes my dude right here
anyways how are ya Lenin
Chads: Chicken Wing
This guy doesn't know what he is talking about
If modern media would have covered Gandhi's peaceful protest they would have focused on the two guys who were arguing about to giving more rice to each other.
If modern media would have covered about the creation of universe they would have focused on the chaos instead of the creation.
"As you see on the footage Josh, we witnessed a huge explosion! Play that footage again"
No the modern media would cover Bhagat Singh and other revolutionaries who used violence and we would have never heard of Gandhi.
"Peaceful protests" would be a stretch to say.. He was painted in this godly peaceful image by propogandists of that time
Nathan Drake if bhagat singh was still there.. India probably would've gotten independence way early and india- Pakistan and hindu-muslims would've never divided..
+Quick Fix
YOU BARELY MADE A POINT!
They do focus on the chaos, and Media, and communication during Ghandi's days were nothing compared to nowadays!
Even if they DO REPORT IT, lack of many other factors, will NOT make it effective!
Further, most of the "VIOLENCE" was highly reported!
Also, don't fall for the Wiz Khalifa trap. He tricks you into thinking that he has good music for a couple seconds until you finally submit, with your last memory being 'I should've listened to a.. real.. artis..'
Habits the Gamer i came to the same conclusion
Lmao damn
The real trap is the weedddd
Habits the Gamer thanks for the warning! I recently was similarly fooled by Vic Mensa. Smh
2012 Wiz Khalifa was the only Wiz for me
I wonder, of the people who disliked the video or are commenting, how many watched the video from start to finish?
I did back when I was a liberal
@@EthanParmetItsDaBunny Then what are you now??
@@dishank111 I am a left-leaning classical liberal, which would be considered slightly Republican, with many left leaning cultural values, like LGBT rights.
@@EthanParmetItsDaBunny Demographic changes lead to cultural changes.
Correlation doesnt always equal causation.
Wow...this is 3 years old. This seems so relevant right now
I don't think they're saying violent protesting is ok. I think they're just saying that we mustn't let a small number of violent protesters define the movement they are apart of most of whom are peaceful protestors. Edit : just to clarify I’m not saying the antifa movement is generally peaceful. I’m just saying the media tends to focus on the most violent and extreme people in a movement even if that’s not what the movement is supposed to be about. Take the George Floyd protests for example.
Thank you, this is actually a really good take. Most of the comments are AntIfa ArE VioLeNT ThUGs!!!
Maybe, just maybe, we mustn’t let a small number of violent protesters HIJACK a movement they ARENT part of and are only USING to push THEIR own AGENDA
They are providing cover for the violent ones. If you see on the news that gangs of terrorists are burning down the city wait to protest later so the national guard can protect the city.
Small no. of ??? They hijacked the city hall in Seattle. More than 2000 properties were burned and 86 cars were lit on fire. You sure that's minority??
Bhag Wati I'm not trying to be annoying but what protest(s) are you talking about and can I see your source(s)
I clicked on this video just to read the rebuttals.
Same
Same
SAME SAMEY SAME SAME Sammy
Yep
same
This did not age well...
Yes, it aged well
Still perfectly true. Didn't age at all.
Someone commented, “This aged well.” Lol
This is absolutely true. I was in central London during the Occupy protests. People were just around holding their signs and chatting and for hours nothing was really happening besides that. The reporters were around bored and waiting. Occasionally one would take a photo of something. Suddenly, one person got arrested. As she was being held on the ground and handcuffed, the reporters swerved to her like mosquitos snapping pictures like paparazzi on a red carpet. As soon as the person arrested got into the police van, everything calmed down and the reporters were bored again looking around like night managers at a front desk of a cheap hotel.
😂 I love the visuals your comment brought to mind
We are talking about Antifa in America
@@thedude6020 the same thing can be seen here though. The only thing about the protests that is shown on tv is whatever pockets of violence they can find. I solidly remember about a month where the news went completely dark on the protests, only to report on it again once some violence happened. But throughout that whole time protests were still happening.
Protestors always lose in this situation.
@@moosesandmeese969 Rioters, not protestors.
News anchors pronounce Antifa like Star Wars characters pronounce Alderaan XD
"Corooskant?"
The media always looks at Alderaan places.
Much easier for them to denounce when it doesn't sound like anti-fascism.
Joseph McCarthy did nothing wrong.
2021: now this has become ironic. Best satire thus far.
With the insurrection at the Capitol from trump supporters?
@@luissanchez723 what else? are you a time traveler from the future trying to warn us?
@@coyotegamer2586 yes. Just wait to see what happens tomorrow
@@Bruh-cj7yw what happened fool??
@@luissanchez723 no the blm and antifa clowns that caused over 2 billion in damages 🤣
Jesus Christ, these comments are more toxic than Chernobyl.
More like Bromine
If you defend violence you get that
Left is more toxic than betox.... Self centered egoistic piece of meat with no soul
You know this is why Ettore Majorana fled Italy. He came up with a theory about a particle and its antiparticle that are in fact the exact same thing but spun in different directions. How dare he postulate that matter and antimatter are the same thing! The Blackshirts and those other people (I even forget which is matter and which is antimatter) would have taken it about as well as the Church took Galileo’s observation that the earth revolves around the sun!
*Britney Spears has entered the chat*
“Peaceful protests”
Traven Bussell EVER HEARD OF PAID PROTESTERS... Wonder what side they benefit?
Traven Bussell Lmao.
Clearly didn't watch the video
You should watch the video Traven Bussel.
Traven Bussell no one says that antifa is peaceful. This is a very small minority that you guys is the majority
"Gas the rich" - antifa guy with loudspeaker
Which is a threat to most of the Antifa's parents.
Militus its almosy like the left and the right are both retarded. So maybe taking sides is also retarded
Nah mate, it's "Eat the rich"
@Therecoveringchronicles. Your viewpoint on the world is skewed too far in one direction. You've been mislead. There is no "right side to take". It's all grey. I would suggest taking a re-examination of your stances on certain subject matter but this time put yourself in the opposing sides shoes. This usually helps me come closer to the truth. Good luck, cheers.
this guy is a genius
This has not aged well at all lol.
Vox is not journalism ...
This clearly relates to what happened in hong kong. The mainland chinese media focuses on protester violence when the police attacked them first, for virtually no reason at all.
Huge differmece between hong protestors and antifa. You dont get to hit people with bike lock, spit on them, or throw m80s at them because they disagree politcal with you.
It appears that most viewers are in disagreement of this assessment.
Yeah cause its bullshit
Because its brigaded by dumbass crowder fans
Matt C because Antifa is a terrorist group
@@mattc2079 My Wifes boyfriend agrees with you.
@@mattc2079 people are tired of the gay mafia
Using this guys logic I could say, the capital riot wasn’t bad because only a few people died
He isn't defending Antifa, nor the violence that does occur. He's simply pointing out the media's sensationalization of violence because it sells more headlines. The Capitol terrorist attack was bad because it was violent, and the violence that occurs as part of antifa-related gatherings is also bad for the same reason. Focusing solely on violence shows you a tiny fragment of the entire picture -- why are they protesting? What else was going on when this happened? When and how did the violence start? These questions are ignored and the blame for violence is immediately -- and mostly _erroneously_ -- tied to the protestors. When the only thing the media focuses on is the violence, they overlook the purpose of the demonstration and ignore the real problems facing society. The more we let the fears of the vocal minorities dominate what we see in the news, the more we inadvertently shut ourselves off from our problems and inevitably set ourselves up for the cycle to repeat itself.
Keep the peace, acknowledge and denounce violence, and most importantly _know what was being protested_ .
@@mallow5828 I actually agree with this point but I don’t get why the point needs to be made. In the case of the BLM protests the violence and the message of the protests were both widely acknowledged and known. So I don’t see the point of saying to not ignore the motivation of the protests when it already isn’t ignored. Maybe there’s a case of this happening I’m not thinking of but from the looks of it to me the violence and the motivation of a protest are usually known. I guess that’s one of the reasons I didn’t like the vid, the point was true but unnecessary which made it come off as vox trying to down play antifa
uhh no you couldn't
We can finally say the capitol riot was a mostly peaceful protest, as Cuomo and Don Lemon would say. Summer=$2 billion in damages, 150 death
@@mezo72271 There were only 25 deaths during the summer BLM protests, and most of the violence that caused the damage can be attributed to police intervention. The terrorists that stormed the Capitol were planning on killing politicians (including Vice President Pence) and caused a fifth of the amount of BLM protest-related deaths in four months in one afternoon.
this didnt age well
but it did
Who's watching this after the George Floyd Protests?
literally thought this was a new video
Storm Trooper haha same!
Storm Trooper same
was randomly recommended to me so why not
@@seanpchristy with all the "Black lives matter" banners - it really looks like and feels like it was yesterday...
3 years later, this is the most relevant video I've ever seen
Vox is Antifa
@@thegodofyoutube266 you seriously don't get it.....
Aaron Tan sadly neither do a few other people based on his likes...
@@aarontan2197 no you are the one who didn't get it not him 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Then you don't watch a lot of content
I deeply regret scrolling down
me too
I think Vox could have done a better job on this video. The overall point is valid: that the media causes a generalization effect that makes people think that all protesters are violent. However, Vox mostly focused on Antifa instead of showing this effect in all kinds of large, tribal battles (e.g. sports games, white supremacist movements, and other non-antifa related protests)
John Stewart's "Baltimore on Fire" piece did a good job on covering this.
The minority dictate history, rarely the majority. The majority of Germans were not Nazi's, The Majority of the citizens of the USSR were good people, The Majority of Muslims are peaceful. The majority of white people are not white supremacist, the Majority of the left are not communist. The majority of antifa are probably decent folk. The majority of North Koreans want safety, not war. Throughout history whenever there is an oppressive regime or ideology/theology the majority are not the ones doing evil, but the minority in power.
As Martin Luther King Jr once said "History recalls not the calamity of the wicked, but the silence of the righteous." It is the role of the majority to watch the extreme minority no matter the name, political or religious alignments. When the majority fail to do so, the violent minority will win. And yet another chapter is written in the book of intolerance/genocide.
Christian Martin Antifa is different. You can say that most Germans during WW2 were good people but Antifa is like the SS brigades. Their goal is to "Punch Nazis" and that's what they've signed up to do.
Christian Martin I love this comment, I think this comment should be on the top, forever, and untouched.
I agreed until you said most white people aren't white supremacists
"a majority of antifa are probably decent folk" yes, how decent can you be to support political violence
Colin Owl so your saying Haitians shouldn't have revolted?
Did anyone notice Captain America in 4:46?
Why?????
Captain america in antifa protest undercover.
2017 colorized
@@someguy6422 hail hydra
TheSuperiorHawk I mean, Captain America is canonically antifa, and his first issue had him punching Nazis in the face, so your reading is good content ✨
@@hanna-liminal yeah but he'd weep seeing what has become of antifa today
The number of arrestes is not a good way to measure the violence of the protesters, since its hard to arrest them. And dosent measure at all their censorship behaviour and the offenses.
And about they being a minority of the protesters : The antifa speech incites those behaviours, and are therefore the cause to be blamed for these minority acts. Saying its just a few is not saying antifa culture is not the major cause of it.
So what we have in the end is : Antifa culture causes violence, censorship and ofense behaviour on its members, in a eficiency that is not known. The first thing to do before jump to more comclusions then would logicaly be gathering more data on how eficient is antifa in creating criminals. But as an educated guees, i think that hate speach have the potential to create an huge amount of criminals.
How about nine months of terror with billions of dollars of damages and many many deaths
What are you talking about?
5:46 - if you really think about that poster, you can realize how ironic it is that antifa protesters are trying to take it down.
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lol nice catch
I don’t think the argument was that Antifa is good, it was that focusing on violent outliers distracts from the real point of a protest.
Oh you mean like the people in Charlottesville protesting to keep the statues there as part of their heritage and when the racists show up, the media makes it seem that everyone that was protesting who wanted to keep the statues was a racist...
@Suva Cirema, Antifa didn't have the numbers the white supremeist had in charlotettsville. There were dozens of orgs and chapters of white supremacist that rallyed to charlottesville like it was the end of the world.
Antifa and BLM, they are all the same. Their original intentions may have been good but many in their organization have ruined their original cause by causing violence and being hypocritical to their own cause. They label whoever they dont like "racist" and "fascist" use whatever means necessary to fight them in illegal, violent, unethical, and immoral ways.
Suva Cirema: If you are protesting to keep statues of Confederate officers up as a celebration of heritage, that heritage IS racist. You cannot divorce the cause they were fighting for from white supremacy, that was literally the reason they fought, put in their own words as the rational for their rebellion.
Parliment: ANTIFA started just over a year ago and, from what I can observe, has improved and focused. Originally, they were black block types who wanted to block Milo form speaking and doxing, but then after that went and did the standard black block stupid thing of breaking random shop windows. Well, they seem to have realized that the enemy is fascists, not shop windows, and stopped with that kind of idiocy.
As far as im concerned vox defends antifa rather than speak out against them
Lay off the koosh it's affecting your ability to think.
@@art2736 yeah its making it better. Maybe you should try it too
@@art2736 You can't even spell Kush right and you want to judge him? If you support antifa you support people openly assaulting others in which.. where do you live friend I'd like to excercise the right you think I apparently have
That’s not what the vids about
@@leonedevaudier76 's funny
The irony of the comments missing the entire point of this video lol
Skux “dont fall for antifa’s trap” they think Vox supports Anti-fa smh
Did people actually watch the video? He doesn't defend them, he's saying don't fall for what the Media does with Antifa, they concentrate on the violence for ratings, rather than the actual important stories.
Batman Jr. He says that they are a minority on the left that is harmless while claiming the neo nazis are a dangerous minority group. It is hypocritical to suggest that they get unfair media coverage when the media outside of fox has more coverage on neo Nazis groups
Gladio Ammazzare And not Texas, Florida and Puerto Rico who all need desperate help after two of the biggest hurricanes recorded?
Let me reiterate, I'm saying I support the violence of Antifa, but there are more important things that America needs to focus on. And not to mention the horrific attack in Vegas.
Most of them didn't. They heard the word, assumed Vox to not be demonizing Antifa and buy into the atmosphere of fear and clicked the dislike button.
He is defending them. He emphasizes how what they're doing isn't "all that bad," and how they're a small percent of the population at these events, but that doesn't actually matter. What they're doing IS bad, and whether it's one person or a hundred, the media portrays it the same way (which is his entire point) so it doesn't matter what percentage of people are doing this.
Anarchists want trump dead as much as clinton, voting is a fraud
You've lost me on "... they're not causing that much havoc."
How much havoc are they causing, folks? What's the legal limit, havoc-wise? On a scale of one to ten. ..
@@c.hanley1423 Not burning down any other person's property.. and like that your argument is gone
@@leonedevaudier76 No, his argument is not gone. Try again.
@@InfiniteDeckhand Wanna talk about the two people in the last 5 days that were hunted down and killed by BLM members
It's October 3rd, 2020. Just realized, after finishing to watch it, this video was posted not today, but on October 3rd, of 2017. Well...
Did all the people who disliked this even watch the video?? Jesus.
@Johnny Vincent Lol do you even know what antifa is?
@@soccerguy325 it’s you and we should better start building some camps for antifa
no of course not repubcs cant escape their echo chambers
I have reported this video for endorsing a terrorist group and for suggesting violence as a valid means of political action.
Except the video did none of that and argued none of that, you must have the attention span of a bacterium.
Adam Kelley ...calling out terrorism is a hate crime. Now you're in trouble.
Your best bet is to get a mobile meth lab to drive thru downtown during a protest...they'll flock to it like an ice cream truck. Just outrun them till they're tired and nobody has to get hurt. Worth a try?!?
Adam Kelley the video did none of that ypur just a baby with no life your mom never loved you
Adam Kelley i just reported it as well! If people reported Alex Jones we can do the same! It's time...
The fact that Vox downplays Antifa reassures me that ordinary Americans are actually against violence and we all haven’t gone completely mad.
It really says something when the majority of people disliked the video! Let the people speak!
That's what the comments are for buddy. Vox is letting the people speak.
@@yummygopher1065 They're not "letting"; it defaultly allows comments, "buddy".
I voted for Bernie Sanders and even I oppose Antifa.
@@ChristianF15cher Good.
Also make sure to read “Manufacturing Consent” by Noam Chomsky.
Great book! Have you read any works by Foucault?
@@jamescallahan7000 Not yet, but I am planning to.
Don't fall for the Last Jedi trap. The media says it's a good movie, but it's terrible and no character comes out likable. Go watch The Clone Wars or play the old Battlefront games.
Skidoosh Layman nice
the last Jedi is what the franchise needed
I agree. The perfect match of SJW politics and corporate greed. It's a TUMBLR stake through its undead heart.
Sick of women leads, its sexist bs
Skidoosh Layman wow that's so relevant to how vox is shilling for antifa
Bring out your popcorn boys, this is gonna be a good comment section.
Kekistanis trying to identify each other. Oxymorons with great self-awareness.
It's hard out here being the minority.
XxDeadGlyphxX What is it about "Kekistan" that's so appealing to you nerds? Like I've frequented 4chan a few times, and it can be great, but y tho?
XxDeadGlyphxX Go get laid, kid.
Alphara I got Pringles even better
This didn't age well.
A lot of vox vids don’t age well lol
Imagine a group called anti-con(federate) where th members dress like civil war us soldiers and sing the union dixie
based
i want that
Unfathomably based
This video aged INCREDIBLY well...
Comparing NFL games with rally statics is very misleading.
A masked group of people roaming a city- all protecting each other and helping their partners alluding police VS drunk people at a game- trapped in a stadium with dozens (if not hundreds) of witnesses to help police apprehend their suspect
Exactly!
A sane comment finally
What group of people though. That is very unspecific. Which group of people? How is the group identified?Why are they alluding the police? And what are the police doing and why? I would just like an answer to my questions so I can see your definition of this masked group of people.
P.S.
I know in general the group I think you are talking about is antifa but I don't even know if I know what that means as definitions of political terms seem to change from person to person so I would just like a better definition of this group of masked people.
Well he meant that the number of people that are violent is actually small compared to the number of people that are peaceful, but the media targets those violent people and group the ENITRE protest as violent.
Mostly peaceful protests ….. 🤣
Have you looked at any statistics?
@@samueltukua3061 Have you ? Black on black crime stats? Number of Cops killed by blacks per capita? Violent crimes committed per capita ? Yeah we have a problem in our own community that needs to be addressed before we start pointing fingers.
@@samueltukua3061 which particular statistics are you referring to ?
@@alexanderphilip1809 acled data titled "Demonstrations and Political Violence in America: New Data for Summer 2020" showing that 93% of protests were peaceful and another report that I don't have on hand showing many of the not peaceful ones started peacefully and where made violent by unnecessary police action and initiation
I was wondering who this Aunt Tifa is that everyone's talking about and why she's such a mean and nasty person.
ur not funny :
@@kayleenahawkins3061 Didn't mean to offend your Aunt Tifa.
@@livewireOrourke yikes-
Vox, you'e on the wrong side of history
What's the right side of history?
The individuals who continue to promote the freedom of ALL ideas and speech. You cannot destroy an ideology through violence.
The Open Debate Some speeches and ideas don't deserve to be promoted. Such as Nazism, white supremacy, racism, etc etc
They're not promoting violence. Where here are they promoting violence?
Nicholas January They'll call out the very few instances where someone posing as Antifa engages in violence, but blatantly ignore the amounts of violence cause by the organizations and people that Antifa are protesting against in the first place.
Commenters: “I read the title of the video so I know exactly what this video is about! Group bad, movement bad, terrorist!”
Video: “Don’t judge everyone by a select few. The media fixated too often on these more entertaining individuals rather than the protests.”
I would love to see the average watch time before comment on these videos if that statistic was being tracked.
Isn't Vox the media?
Samuel Lourenço CZcams is media. The media is how you watch videos, view pictures, read articles, etc. I’m not sure I follow your point.
@@the3idiots14 I meant mass media.
Watched it all and still think vox is positive as my stool having corona.
But thats exactly what Antifa is doing. They are claiming the far-right is all violent and they are not at all. Antifa is violent.
and i thought this was a couple weeks ago; it was *years* ago
Aged like an open jug of milk.
Good lord these comments missed the whole point of this entire video
Too bad the message in this video didn’t age well. Antifa has gotten more violent and the media coverage is justified.
Disagreeing is not missing the point.
@@c.hanley1423 How do you disagree with the fact that media only focuses on violence instead of why violence is happening and who causes it? That's literally a fact.
I assumed most people were anti-fascist
At least outside of youtube...
Most people believe in equal rights for men and women, but they don't call themselves feminists.
Most people believe that everyone should get what they need and give what they can, but they don't call themselves communists.
Most people believe that fascists suck, but they don't call themselves Antifa.
It doesn't matter how organizations or ideologies define themselves, it matters what they do, and whether their actions convince others to be sympathetic to their cause. "Your identity is a negotiated concept. It's not just what you think you are, but what others determine you to be" (Jordan Peterson).
@Michael McCarty Yes, most people don't put their actions where their mouth is. The NSDAP in Germany was heavily disagreed with. After much moaning and wringing of hands they were stopped and WW2 didn't happen. Oh wait ...
It doesn't matter what you believe. As soon as they label you the enemy, you are accosted. That's how the fascist operate, using fear and intimidation. You don't truly know a fascist by what they believe. You know them by what they do. This guy is an apologist for the fascist antifags. He is just as culpable for EVERY One of their crimes to come.
Being against facism does not mean to agree with antifa. Just because a group of people gives itself a title that is inherently agreeable it doesn't mean that the group itself is agreeable or deserving of that title, you know.
The official self-chosen name of North Korea is Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
So I guess they're democratic and if you oppose them, you must hate democracy. See how stupid that sounds?
The Year is 2104 and we still talked about ANTIFA and White Supremacies
Boy, this video aged really well
This video is so so so relevant
amazes me how ignorant the majority of the comments are
@@zilionis8003 Relevant means good, because it covers the points we should be mindful of.... Is your brain working?
Zilionis 800 i think you need to re-read the second part of his statement again. 😆 but seriously this is a good video about how protests are portrayed in the media. This will sadly, probably be relevant for future protests as well.
@@zilionis8003 huh can you be more specific? I'm pretty sure allot of protesters have denounced the riots but the media has only started to show the peaceful side of the movement in response to the critisism they faced towards how they portrayed the protests.
What does ignorant meen? Does that mean I'm ignorant?
The video is only so-so. And you didn't explain what make your antagonists "ignorant". Learn to write.
I just flagged this video as promoting terrorist acts. You can do it too! :D
Actually, they seem to be protected against being reported. I click "Report", and nothing happens. I CAN report other videos. What do you make of that?
After enough flags, somebody employed by Google/YT can probably grant immunity to videos they consider to be tagged maliciously / vindictively. That's fair enough. I WAS being vindictive. I don't actually want to censor this video. The bit that isn't fair is when they censor conservative videos using these same tools, and no such immunity is granted because... well, because YT doesn't agree with those videos. They agree with videos like this one. Because they're ideologues, and quite insane. :)
Michigan Sunde
Nah leave it up here.
Let the world see how idiotic this is.
We can exploit them.
クアン ミリ- ナ Agreed
88 likes? Looks like I'll be the 88th person to flag the video.
Alternate title: The news media do not report EVERYTHING
oversimplified.
@@wolfgangbr1576 It’s true. The news don’t always tell the full story if not at all.
The problem is when a small group begin disrupt the mob mentality takes over. All you need is one agitator.
Governments often send in agents to incite violence, Occupy Wallstreet is a recent example. The video even mentions Occupy Wallstreet several times but does not bring up the political agitators
"Antifa is a gift to the far-right"-Noam Chomsky
brendon: Soros has nothing to do with anything.
Lucas: You don't know much, but what you know you know all wrong. Champsky is not the leader of the IWW. The IWW has no leader. Each chapter is independent of the rest and decides things by Democratic vote. Chompsky is an Anarcho-syndicalst and so, more or less, are the IWW members, but that does not make him their leader. I'm not sure if he's even member. He has better things to do than unionize some small bar, which is about all that the IWW is able to do these days. Emma Goldman was involved with the IWW at one point, but she did not found it. The early mebers in the early twentyeth century were guys like Bill Haywood and Joe Hill. Her freinds and comrads, at times, not certainly not her followers or disciples. Emma worked with a lot of people but founded no lasting organizations.
rum runner "Noam, how can we make a difference?"
"Uhhh, vote?"
Chomsky should go back to talking about triangular triangles. it made more sense.
Noam is a wuss.
Keep going guys! You're amazing! At this rate Trump will get a second term without even campaigning
its a meme dude everyone likes the rock
seigeengine they are defendig terrorists they might as well be terrorists
His polls are crashing. They have in fact gone down, and if the DNC smart and don't hinder Bernie again, Bernie will win.
Meme, they are not. It's about media biase, Antif is being used as an example, it's any small percentage of protestor that make the large number look bad. This isn't even about left or right, since it's true for all protest.
Provide evidence dont just claim the polls are crashing.
this do be hitting different,,
If only American News Media wasn't run like private businesses
If only american news media wasnt a private business*
Would you rather it be all government controlled like in China?
@@greghauser742 that is not at all what I mean dude
Yo Vox/ I agree with most of your political takes, but I live in Berkeley, and it is not "fighting Nazis" when masked anarchists storm your peaceful protests to light the student union on fire.
Wow a 2 year old video and it's deja-funcking-vu right now.
"occasionally" lol
This needs to be updated to include Seattle and Portland.
ain't that relevant today. like, christ, guys, you can't just whip out the "antifa" card for any protest that happens.
@@zilionis8003 you can.
@@zilionis8003 antifa isnt an organization it's a set if ideals it has no leaders or central organization it's all small groups.
Excuse me, but don't people riot precisely to get attention?
@@c.hanley1423 People riot because of lots of things. Frustration, opportunism, because cops provoked them, because peaceful protests get ignored.
Don't know what this has to do with Trump et al. doing the "this is just antifa" thing for BLM protests.
Enough video evidences to prove how "Good" the antifas are lol. They are extremists, racists, bigots, violent group. And also they harrass and beat up people they disagree with. If antifas start showing up where i am from they will be burried before they brainwash people.
ann tee fah/ann tiffa/antee fah/ann tiffy/ahn tye fay
Aunt Tina Fey?
You beat me to it lol
Onuma I can totally get on board with aunt Tina Fey
anti fa, fa as in fascist. Do Re Mi Fa...
Tiffany?
I still can't believe that this video was made in 2017