Milwaukee VS. Makita! Milwaukee 18v rear handle saw vs. Makita 36v rear handle saw (Tool Duel!)
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2019
- Today's Tool Duel features some of the most bad ass saws on the market today. The Milwaukee M18 FUEL Rear Handle Circular Saw Vs. The Makita LXT 36V Rear Handle Circular Saw.
We will point out some of the flaws on both saws, and we will also shine a light and some of the best features of each circular saw.
You decide who wins this epic showdown by voting in the comment section below!
Edit: After looking into this, it seems that the Home Depot Website is a bit misleading. The Makita Weight at 12.4 lbs was weighed with the battery, and the Milwaukee was posted without. that said, with the battery, the Milwaukee is actually 13 lbs. the site also states that the Makita is only 18v, but we all know its 36
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I'm a framer. Went through 4 brushless milwaukee saws, lasted 3-6 months each. I now have 2 of the makitas and they hold up alot better to abuse and don't have so many electronic glitches.
You do know that you only had to buy two because Milwaukee's Warranty covers it, I hope you new because it covered mine while one's in shop getting fixed you have a spare lol 😆
@@plumbbuild6517 yup bud 2 year old 6.5 brushless milwakee fixed it no questions asked.i have two
I GOT MINE FOR 3 YEARS NOW AND STILL SHARP
I highly doubt that. Milwaukee tools almost never fail. I’m an electrical contractor with several thousands of dollars worth of Milwaukee cordless tools in all of my service trucks. We do wind generator, industrial solar panels and saw mills. So don’t try to say all we use are residential m12 impacts.
These experiences always baffles me when I see them, which is thankfully rare, I've had countless issues with Makitas, especially their newer drills - have literally had one of them burst into flames. Have never had an issue with Milwaukee (or DeWalt, for that matter).
Although I will say, Makita's saws are amazing and I'd highly recommend them, but I'd recommend Milwaukee's as well, if you're on the platform.
I am absolutely an M18 Fuel guy- no question (my primary Packout is taller than I am) but I have both 36V Makita LXT saws (this one and sidewinder 7 1/4”) and let me say when people say Makita saws are “smooth” - wow! Never in my 30 years as a carpenter have I been so impressed! The Milwaukee is a sledgehammer, but the X2 Makitas (BOTH of them) are just wood SCALPELS! Not that it matters, but the dual battery setup helps provide the amps (torque) only when it needs it. Smart battery/tool protection is awesome for all of us woodchucks in the field! Fantastic channel sir- keep up the great work! You are very much appreciated!!
What everyone isn't getting about the 2 batteries from makita is that 2 5.0amp batteries are far cheaper than 1 12amp Milwaukee battery. Also with the double charger it's like 45 min to charge instead of well over an hour. And you get to batteries that fit all your other tools.
I didnt read this til after I posted, but I pointed this out as well. The two batteries really do have an advantage in my eyes, mainly because the batteries are all the same.
Brain Savage exactly. Don't get me wrong I like milwaukee and what they do but I definitely think besides power. Makita got the win over all.
Milwaukee has the rapid charger, now the newer super charger. Doesnt take long to charge the 12 AH batteries anymore. One tool, one battery. As things should be.
Not to mention his weight is wrong the Milwaukee is 13.5 lbs with a 12ah battery and the Makita is 12.4 lbs with 2 5ah batteries. The 10lbs he mentioned is tool only which is a worthless weight stat from Milwaukee IMO.
@@ms542 you can use any size m18 battery to run the saw though. I own it. It works just as well with the other batteries, they just die faster. You can't use the makita at all unless you use up two of your batteries. To me it seems stupid. I've used both saws and the makita cuts just fine. But it just doesn't make sense. 2 batteries on a less powerful tool. To each his own i guess.
I'm a carpenter, and our whole company about a year ago switched to all cordless makita power tools, and I must say coming from using corded skillsaws, I absolutely love the 36v makita circular saw. I actually bought one for myself, and retired my skillsaw.
Its lighter, battery life is actually pretty good. Batteries charge pretty fast. Also, replying to the video on battery life, if you look at the tool, the battery indicator show 3 bar, vs the batteries themselves show 4 bars. So at 2 bars on the tool, the batteries are actually at 3 bars.
One other thing I like about the makita is the fact you dont need to buy any special battery to use in it. You can use any makita battery that you use in any of your other makita tools.
I'm not sure about other brands, but it looks to me that if you want your saw to last and have good preferences, you have to buy a more expensive and specific battery, like the dewalt 60V 9ah battery for just that (1) tool. I could be wrong, about that last part, but I know for certain all my batteries for all of our power tools are all interchangeable because they are the same, which is honestly really nice because if randomly any one of the batteries takes a crap, it doesn't really stop, or slow me down from working, like it might if your 60v battery might.
Also to be fair, at works we have around 30 5ah 18v makita batteries, also at home I have around 8. So there are not shortages of batteries, and that's because we practice the 6 P's.
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It looks like the Makita cuts are deeper...you can see this when cross cuts are being demonstrated. Therefore making the Milwaukee appear to cut easier.
Makita saw built like a tank
With the style of a Lamborghini :)
I’m glad I waited to purchase the 36v Makita. Went to Home Depot and was about to purchase the 18v BL Makita at 159.99 but decided to check prices online at HD. Saw a deal for 249.99 with 36v Makita, double battery charger and 2 5hour battery’s. I was like wow I’m getting that. I was waiting for a representative for help as I kept looking at the things they had online and found an other great deal. Same price 249.99 36v Makita circular saw, double battery charger, 2 5AH batteries but on top of that 2 more 5AH batteries for free. That was a $330 dollar savings. Think about this. $199.99 just for tool only.. I could not resist. I only have to wait 1 week for my new toys to arrive. Not mad at all.
I love the Milwaukee fuel line of tools and am so glad they brought out this saw. Both saws seem to have done great but I’d have to go with one battery every time. One battery and just as much if not more power💥
Awesome video Clint. I could watch these saw videos all day every day! Tool Duel baby!! C’mon!! Hopefully you start making more again brother. Until then I’ll just have to keep watching the old ones.
I have the Milwaukee, my boss has the makita. With that said the Milwaukee can use smaller batteries because I’m cheap I’m using the 5ah in mine from all my other tools and I can get. Threw about 250-300 cuts per charge on the 5ah, my bosses makita is about the same, with two 5ah batteries. It’s much easier for me to give up 1 tool for that battery if I need it vrs 2. The line of sights better on the Milwaukee if the blade has been squared when you shouldn’t have a problem with the indicator marks on it for cutting. Overall super happy I made the purchase.
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Every time I think I've decided on Milwaukee I found out something I like more about makita.
Same boat. I stayed with Makita on our last big lot purchase. Haven’t regretted it at all.
My Milwaukee impact creams the makita
I’ll take the build quality and longevity of the Makita all day every day.
Ryan Bingham yup for sure
Yea the makita saw and battery will last way longer
@@snick._.c how do you know this? What is this based on? Your own experience?
How fo you know this? What is your statement based on? Scientific data? Your own experience?
@@nohcho84 so at my job site we do a ton of concrete forming I mean I've bought two m1 Martinez hammers and pretty much like destroy them within the last three years and so the Makita saw it seems to just kind of the build quality holds up way better not only from a battery standpoint but from an actual like saw standpoint The Milwaukee is still a good saw and it's got more power than the Makita but the Makita just has like more electronics in there to regulate you know like the electric brake and things like that The Milwaukee batteries and pretty much every other battery maker out there are all the same and Makita is the only one that makes their own batteries sorry if this was long I did a voice type cuz you know time
Everyone is hating on the two battery makita but is failing to see that for many people who already have lots of makita batterys its better than the Milwaukee where to run it properly you have to buy high output batterys which adds a whole extra cost.
When you see what the 12.0ho battery can introduce to your tool lineup with all the other m18 fuel h.o. tools that are available besides this saw the battery is a huge investment
TIL: you can mix n match batteries. A 5.0 and a 2.0. It won't be a 3.5Ah tool. But it will be 2.0Ah.
Exactly, I don't want to invest more money in batteries when I already have 8
I know this is an older video, but i just got the Makita at Home depots 2020 black Friday sale. The kit i bought included the saw, double charger, and 2 5amp batteries for $249. Also as a bonus i got an additional 2 5amp for free. I got kit mainly because of the good deal on batteries but have put the saw to work and absolutely love its power and smoothness
Tha ksbfor the feedback Jeremy!!!!!
Just got the same deal, had to fight a little bit with home depot for the extra batteries but in the end got the deal...I just wanted the 5amp hour batteries for that price, the saw was just a bonus...
@@stevenrobare6668 I basically got it for the batteries as well. Didn't think i would use the saw that much because its so large but find myself using it regularly. Very smooth cutting once i got use to it a little.
Makita build quality is first class .
I have the makita it’s a smooth saw with good ergonomics. Personally keeping it on the same battery platform is nice. To me it’s hard to say which is best it all comes down to durability.
I have the Milwaukee kit but i just bought the Makita kit with 4 batteries at Home Depot for my step dad. They have the same deal at Dixie Line, in stock.
I’ve had the Makita for a year and it’s fantastic. I’m mostly on the M18 platform but I’d have a really hard time ditching the Makita at this point.
It really is an awesome saw. Thanks for the feedback Josh
Yeah it’s a little weird, but I always just sight down the blade on a worm drive anyway so it doesn’t bother me much.
I have all M18 as well, albeit not a ton of tools. I work at home Depot and eyed the Makita deal that includes this saw, the charger, bag and (2) 5AH batteries for $259. You also get another (2) free 5 AH batteries as well. Thinking of picking it up just to have on hand as a circular saw is one of the tools I DON'T have and can always use. We don't sell a lot of Makita tools in general, but when we do, Makita saws are always in that list and for good reason.
Man , I just got the Makita on Home Depot for 249.00 plus taxes and they gave me 2 more 5.0 ah batteries......a god damn steal deal and this was is A BEAST!!!!! I cut 40 2x10 moist like butter !!!!! Can't be happier with it
Awesome!
I have Milwaukee platform. But I got the makita saw. I just couldn’t missed this deal 250 4 batteries. Milwaukee is 250 for the saw.
The Makita is a great deal. I probably would have gone for it if that saw had a vacuum hookup option. I got my Milwaukee saw from Home Depot with a free 8.0 battery on promotion...so I got more bang for the buck. I’m not a super heavy user so I don’t need the 12.0 battery.
@@Ronofthedead07 I just got this saw with the 4 batteries, and the one I have does have a dust port for a vacuum to be attached, maybe it's on the newer revision. It's actually part of the magnesium piece that over top of the saw and exhausts to the right.
@@Vargasarts that's great if they integrated that into the existing saw
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I'm m18/m12 all day . But this is a awesome platform and for the price, an beast of a saw, simultaneous dual charger + 4 batteries that was unbeatable. Now I have options for two of the top 3 tool makers. I'll have lots more choices when choosing a tool. The 36 volt miter saw is next. 👍🏾
I have an Acme tool store/service center just down the road from me. I talked to a couple of the service techs a while back...they agreed that the Milwaukee carpentry tools were by far the most "returned for service" tools in the shop, while they see very few Makita returns! Interestingly, they commented "if your a plumber or electrician Milwaukee is good, a carpenter not so much"!
Out of curiosity, how many Milwaukee tools are out there compared to Makita? Are they repairing more because that's what most carpenters use? Or are they really breaking down more?
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Milwaukee is so smart that when it rain they made a very nice water collector
Liked the graphics at beginning, really cool 👍🏻
Used to run Makita, was first tool “platform” started in. Now, I’m primarily using Milwaukee, like the 1 battery & the power it delivers w/o having 2. No saw, or tool, is perfect....just gotta go w/ what you like better, or the platform your in. For me, I’d say the Milwaukee wins out over the Makita; even though, those irksome “issues” with the saw drive me tad crazy 😜
Cheers✌🏼
Thanks for the comment Aepek!!!
Does the milwalkee battery port have a weep hole through the bottom?
Obviously we don't want to leave these out in the rain, but the battery port can't be filling up with water either.
It was the two batterys that did it for me I went with Milwaukee m18. I cut roof with these saw's daily
Great video TRZ sweet tool duel
I have that Makita a while now, I didn’t even want it but took the deal and the free xlock grinder. Love it! Cuts so straight and doesn’t drift. I have batteries so the double battery is no big deal.
I have the Makita and it is an awesome saw, lighter than my corded Skil worm drive and has incredible power, I think in the video test the guard was holding it up or something, mine has no bog and cuts like butter, just built a large pole barn with extremely heavy, dense 6x6 treated posts cut through better than any saw I have ever owned in 35 yrs of framing cut through 14” lvl’s with zero big and with ease. Video is right the ergonomics of the Makita is unbeatable, the only small drawback is 2 batteries, but they last all day and charge in only 45min, the indicator light in the saw is peculiar, it will drop from 3 lights to 2 lights after 40 or so cuts but when you pull out the batteries they still have 3 lights on, the batteries have 4 lights when fully charged but the saw only has 3 lights when fully charged strange design.
I just picked up the Makita XSR01 and I noticed it has an additional extraction port next to the blade stop, the one on this video does not have it. I picked it up from Home Depot with (4) 5Ah batteries, a dual rapid charger, and a storage bag for $250. Hard to beat that deal with Milwaukee.
Used both. I own the Makita. The Milwaukee’s dust port is better for cutting ply. But I don’t really notice a major diff in power. Both are great saws just depends what battery platform you’re using.
Cheers. Great vid
can you get through a whole day without charging?
Jesse Beck it depends what I’m doing. 80 percent of the time yes. I run 2 6.0s in the Makita but have 6 other batteries so it’s never really bothered me
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@@jesseback3536 With the Milwaukee and an 8.0 or a 12.0, yes
For me, the lack off on tool storage pretty much eliminates that tool as an option, also I feel the two battery platform is good because you have the flexibility to use it either in an 18 volt X 1 tool or an 18 bolt X 2 tool, instead of having to buy a whole new battery platform.
Makita's multi battery for increased voltage was an awesome idea for battery hoarders. I hate how all these other companies are making 3 or 4 different battery lines. I'm wondering if Makita could make 72V tools using 4 batteries to compete with Milwaukee's MX line. Those MX batteries are over $500 right now. It's ridiculous.
What’s funny about this comment is that you made it right around when Makita brought their 40V/80V max XGT line to the US, which was one of the last places to get it.
So, Makita had their 12V CXT, 18/36V LXT, and 40V/80V XGT.
I own the Milwaukee great saw with a excellent line of sight the top handle is a little thin but it’s a great saw. I have also used the Makita before and I think it is more comfortable to use it just feels better in the hand. As far as power that’s not going to be an issue with any of the rare handle saws.
A little tip with the wrench on the Milwaukee put it in s vice and gently give it a slight bend it will never fall out of the saw. Just don’t go overboard with the wrench because you could break it but, bend it a little then keep checking how it holds until it stays snug.👍🏼
Awesome feedback J J!
J J
Thanks for the tip! I always keep the wrench to any saw in my bags, because I constantly loose them if I leave them the saw. But will give this a try. Have a good one!
Good tip for the wrench. I tried it and it works!
Hi Clint it has to be makita their machines are so comfortable and easy to use smooth (soft ) start
Thanks for the vote Tony!!!
I haven’t had the chance to try the Milwaukee yet, but it looks awesome. I really like my Makita. Honestly my only gripe is not having a light. I’ve had several saws with blade wrench storage, and I never keep them on the saw. Gotta go to the truck for a blade anyway. The double battery thing is a little weird, but it’s really no difference, I just charge them together as a unit. 👌🏼
...and FYI, the blade that comes with the Makita is a fair amount taller than the same 7 1/4” Diablo for some reason 🤔
Hmmm, haven't even noticed that. Thanks for the feedback Bro
Trz Makita kept their saw a little bit more heavier on purpose so when you are cutting down plywood or 4x4 the weight helps keep you cutting a straight line instead of it jumping around and I also love the fact that Makita saw dust shoots down instead of towards me while I'm trying to make a cut. That makes a world of difference and magnesium is my favorite metal. Great video. Peace brother
I can agree with that bro. I actually think home depot messed up their weight though. They put the Milwaukee weight at 10lbs, and the Makita at over 12. It looks like they are both weight with the batteries, the the Makita is actually lighter. They also state on the site that the Makita is anb18v lol
Wet pressure treated always clogs up dust ports. It's par for the course. I've used the makita and the objections I have to it is two fold. First you need double the amount of batteries and they need to both be charged to the same amount in order for it to work properly. Second removing the batteries is very difficult ergonomically.
I have bought both of these saws. I just got the Milwaukee and I've had the Makita for about 2 years. I try to buy only kits or use sales as a way of buying tools. They are both awesome saws. I don't like the lack of a stop on the Milwaukee, like you had said. My cheap corded old Skil saw has one. Massive oversight. Loosing that would suck. I have to provide tools for my workers. Most have their own stuff, but I like getting the job done fast so we can move on to the next one.... waiting on someone's HF stuff to charge is a waste of money.
Which brings me to my final and maybe most important, price. Tool-only you're gonna pay out the nose for either of these. Milwaukee runs a buy more save more that reduces the price of their saw considerably. However, as many of your viewers may know, Makita runs a sale in that saw multiple times a year. It's the same price as tool-only but you get 4 batteries and a dual charger. Two years ago they had 5 amp hour batteries in the kit. They have since reduced them to 4 amp hour batteries, but you still get 4. While it doesn't fix the issue that their saw needs two batteries, it does clear up the issue of not having enough batteries for your other tools.
More tool duels man! Love these.
Hi TRZ,
Still thinking if i should purchase this milwaukee circular saw.
I have to agree with you. Don't like the bevel knob swinging around and getting lose. Next the dust extractor should come with a solid cover plate to cover that section and let the dust come down at blade like a worm drive.
Or make a different model with no dust extractor on the cover. Like the 6 1/2" model.
I guess i will wait until milwaukee comes out with a gen 2 model soon.
Any Milwaukee tool is just great in every from power to battery to durability
I love my makita saw i still get excited to use it and have had it for a while.
I actually like, prefer, the dual 5Ah battery design from Makita, over one gigantic. It allows me to use the 18v system more fluid, I only have two size batteries. A pair of 2Ah for light work, drills etc, and a shit ton of 5Ah that power everything.
Using the Milwaukee m18 saw daily as a framer on a Construction site I like the saw cuts very good but the fine dust it creates makes wearing eye protection a must (although you should anyway) dust created when cutting OSB is over the top I keep going back to my old porter cable with the blade on the left side...
Exactly. Dewalts flex volt is even worse. The Makita wins for this
OSB? Don't use that stuff..
@@davidbagley1783 I use it regularly building homes
great video i use them all i still like the Dewalt DCS577
I own the Makita saw, and I love it. I don't personally mind the two battery system. I just wish Makita would make a changable guard so it'll blow the sawdust to the side.
They actually do make a Vacuum type hose that goes on those Makita saws !
@@EduardoGarcia-jf9jm On that same Makita model? Because I don't think mine could use that attachment.
Makita batteries take 45 minutes to charge and the Milwaukee battery takes over an hour. Enough said, I will take 2 batteries that I can easily use with all my other tools that are faster to charge and more out of the way, any day. The amp draw on each battery is half what it would be on the Milwaukee because there are 2 instead of one, which I imagine helps greatly with the Makita's battery life.
@@brianrothrock5893 The Makita 18x2 tools require two batteries to operate. If you put a 2ah battery and a 5ah battery on it, you'll only get 2ah of runtime. The runtime between the two Makita batteries are not accumulative.
@@princenoah21 I think you may have misunderstood my comment, I was not clear enough or I am not understanding you. Let me explain again what I think might be the misunderstanding. If the motor at full power when cutting draws 1000 watts then for the Makita each battery would provide 500 watts each, however with the Milwaukee since it has only 1 battery the full 1000 watts comes from that battery. Now that one battery might be designed for the extra power draw but that makes it a specialized battery compared to the other designs. Maybe I am thinking about it too much and I think that I would still prefer 2 batteries that charge faster (because they can be charged separately), can be more easily used for other tools, have less demand on the battery, and are located in a more out of the way spot.
This Makita is a game changer, nothing else compares, I cut aluminum with it all day long, from 1/8" to 1" thick aluminum, both batteries last more than a day
And the dust extractor is by far the best
What is the blade that you use to cut alluminum sheet?
You should definitely not be using this saw to cut 1" thick aluminum. It's built to cut wood. Aluminum is like 20x more dense than even the hardest hardwoods. Get a metal cutting circular saw with a proper blade. It will have more torque and run at a lower RPM. It will also collect the aluminum dust into a container.
A wood saw _can_ cut metal, but it will wear out the motor much, much faster, and will shorten the life of the batteries.
For the battery complaint, their batteries are fairly affordable! I just started buying makita and somehow already have 7?
Just picked this saw up for $250 with 4 batteries and dual battery charger at Home Depot.
Makita all the way!...
We have the Makita at work. I used the hell out of it. The convenience is the fact that if you standardize on Makita, you have a million of these batteries lying around. No one steals them but it is a quality tool. About using the 5amp batteries, that's what the saw comes with. That's 10amp of 18v or 5amp of 36v. So a lot closer to the Milwaukee than people complain about. And voltage is like car displacement. So the Makita is twice the displacement putting out less power? The difference about voltage is the higher the voltage the more efficient as the magnetic fields are stronger. So that's how well built that Milwaukee motor is.
I was going to get makita tools, but after getting hands on with them in the store and seeing how every tool from every company is made in china now I just said screw it and got some milwaukee stuff because it felt more robust. Now I keep questioning whether or not I should take them back for makita because of the battery line comparability. Decision making is so stressful lol.
Finally I’m still confused which one it’s the better!! .
I have used both, the makita is great but a tad heavy. I own the Milwaukee, One thing that bugs me to no end about it is the blade guard has a taper to it at the contact point that tends to knock you to one side during the start of a cross cut...I realize the bad asses will say they lock it up out of the way and I get that... Also the dust channel dose seem to clog on occasion but what I don't like is it coats me with saw dust especially during osb rips...When I first got this saw I thought it would be the back up or convenience saw, strangely I haven't used my worm drive skillsaw since I bought it! it's a new era nowadays.
You made an error at 12:10 referring to the line of sight on the Milwaukee but said Makita , you referred to Makita 2x discussing the line of sight . But pretty awesome video👍👏
Yeah I caught that too. Thanks for the feedback Kenny
Real nice like..... Love it man. Thanks for your vid
Do you have to use the bigger batteries on the Milwaukee or can you use smaller ones if you are only making a few cuts?
You can use smaller batteries, the 2ah for instance.
Looking for a 2020 holiday deal for either of these saws. My preference is the Milwaukee, only because I have other M18 tools and don't want another battery platform. I honestly think the Makita is a better tool (longevity). The Makita kit is on sale right now at HD for $152 (saw, 2 batts, charger, bag). Thats a pretty tough deal to pass up when the Milwaukee is priced at $269 just for the saw. I may hold out for a deal on the M18, but for $152 I am thinking HARD about it.
The makita is an awesome deals going on at home depot right now
It's funny because I have both companies of tools and for the Makita I have that saw now I just bought it for $250 it came with an extra pair of five amp hour batteries so I have four total you can't beat the price point as for Milwaukee their tools are just on another level of durability they're really tough they feel good in the hand as well but not as good as my Makita Black compact series but then again I bought that for home use but I am very excited to try this saw it will see what happens thanks for the video shoot out!
Bought mine but came with free grinder xlock 😀😀😀
I disagree with the 2 batteries on makita being bad. I have about 20 cordless 18v Makita tools and these 2 batteries go with everything I have. Awesome review though! Thanx man!
I got the Milwaukee one I’m not into the makita line but the Milwaukee one is impressive
Just purchased this makita and it has a dust port in the front and it works very good.
I completely disagree about the dual battery concept. How much bigger can Milwaukee batteries get. Makita has room to improve but to me Milwaukee has reached the limit as to how big and heavy their 18V batteries can get. Also, from the electrical engineering point of view 36V just makes much more sense as you can use thinner wire because you have have half the amps when you have twice the voltage. Also, Makita gives you free batteries when you buy the tool or at least they did when I bought mine as they had a special where they gave you for free two extra 5.0 A-hr batteries so you can always have a fresh pair ready to go and there is no way in hell you can use two of these up before the dual rapid charger can replenish the dead ones. Two of which together weigh less than the one 12.0 A-hr Milwaukee. The 36V dual battery concept is the best solution to these high demand applications.
Good one
Depends if it's run as parallel or series
I just bought the Makita and was disappointed once I saw the indexing marks on the bevel guide...besides the stops, what are you going to do when you want a 18 and a half degree cut? Haven't even run it yet and I'm debating taking it back and getting the Milwaukee instead...It has very clear indexing marks on it...
That’s my biggest issue with positive stops on bevel guides for circular saws. They are not miter saws, I do not want positive stops that force me at a set degree of bevel. I want flexibility on a circular saw that allows me to set the bevel at whatever degree I so choose without forcing me to compromise
As often with those duels, it comes down with the battery platform you already own.
Personally, i think the Milwaukee battery platform is unbeatable and their tools can go to war and beyond.
My father has Makita tatooed over the heart since he bought his first corded hammer drill in 79. The thing is still eating through concrete like it's nothing to this day (of course that is the only use it has now since he bought a battery drill kit) and i have to say this brand is also pretty solid.
I am not a framer or anything do I just might be ignorant but,the whole on board wrench thing. Are you saying that the blade gets loose sometimes or are you saying its important because of blade changes .you really wont have a saw blade on your tool belt would you? I would think that you would have it in a tool bag and your wrench would be there too.if I am wrong plz let me know ,I really am interested in learning this stuff.i got the makita one because I got it on sale gor$260 +:2 extra 5.0 bats free ( total of 4 5.0 batts + saw for $260) so it was a offer I couldn't refuse. It's like getting the saw fro free! I love it and all my power tools are makita anyway it was the icing on the cake.
I'm wondering if the dust shoot on the Milwaukee would have still clogged if you ran them both at the same pace; because you ran the Milwaukee at about 11 seconds both cuts, and both cuts on the Makita you ran about 16 seconds. So, Milwaukee's was cutting about 25% faster. Would it have still clogged if you slowed it down 25%?
thats a great observation Jason. I may need to try it.
Makita 18v X2 5100rpm vs Milwaukee M18 5800rpm
I have owned two of these 36v makitas and it is literally my favorite tool I own. In fact I had my van broken into and a bunch of my work tools were stolen. That saw was the first thing I went out and bought again. After you have one you just can’t do without. I highly recommend it
I own the Makita 36v saw and it puts in work... Smooth straight cuts all the time. No issues at all. Makita for the win 🙌
Both are great saws like you mentioned, and Milwaukee did a great job with the saw especially for an 18v platform.. can’t wait to get my hands on one. But most likely, that Milwaukee will need to be warrantied a few times while that makita will keep working without issue.
After watching the vid I'd say they are pretty even up as far as performance is concerned. The only drawback I see is the two batteries required for the Makita since it adds more weight. If I had to choose one, I'd go with the Milwaukee based on performance and the single battery. But that's just my opinion since I'm a DIY'er and not a contractor. Thanks for sharing. Cheers!
As always, thanks for the awesome feedback William!!!
but the 12 AH milwaukee battery weighs much more than the makita 5ah battery. And it is much more bulky.
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Those barriers are like 150$
As someone with miles of cut length with both these. And the DeWalt. Makita hands down. Reason being it clears the cut line and the debris doesn't shoot massive amounts of dust in your face.
I don't see the issue with the 2 batteries used in the duel Makita tools , its actually a genius idea . Why should Makita spend time and money developing a larger voltage battery (like dewalt flexvolt) so that all the customers on the 18v platform need to go out and get another set of batteries and chargers just does not make sense . Most guys invested in the range will have plenty of batteries i know i personally own 16 x 18 volt Makita batteries . As for the saws i don't think id invest in the rear handle saw , i already have dhs650z single battery top handle and its a beast compared the the old brushed model . I think i will go for the dhs710z top handle 36v if i do decide i need a deeper cut cordless saw , only drawback is the blade is on the opposite side but used to that with corded saws . The rear handle only cuts 45mm(1.3/4") at 45° and the top handle 49mm( so its closer to a full 2" for roof work . With none of the 2 saws cutting a full 2" at 45° i think i'll stick with my 165mm(6.1/2") 18v Makita BL saw and corded makita 210mm(8.1/4") saw
Makita for me. I like the fact that LXT 18v batteries can be used for other applications. Makita garden tools, drills and drivers, multi tool, etc.
The Milwaukee sounds way more powerful then the makita
Don't see the problem using 2 batteries to get 36volts. I have plenty of batteries i interchange between my 36 and 18 volt tools. For me its better to stay on the 18volt platform and double up for more power. Both the Makita and Milwaukee saws perform well but my choice purely to stay on the same battery platform. Keep up the great vids 👍👍👍
I like the Milwaukee on this one. It's got nice power and the one battery is a plus. Two nice saws, it was a tough one. Great duel. 👍💯
Thanks bro!!!!
you should have a rip guide to test cuse your not cutting straight and the correction bogs it down
Makita has 270 tools with same battery format . Winner.
...and does not have any battery powered framing nailer. Loser)
It's not about the number of tools on the platform. It's about the number of unique and useful tools. You can have 30 impact drivers but what does that do for you?
I absolutely love the two batteries set up.... More flexibility with all my other makitas
No, Makita has it right with the two battery system because you can use the 5amp batteries on any tool! I'm not gonna plug that 12volt battery into my impactor
I just bought the makita. The special buy at Home Depot gives you two extra 5ah batteries right now.
The only thing that I can say is that I use the Milwaukee one daily and I absolutely hate it because the ejection port blasts the dust right into you. I do a lot of finish work so my cuts have to be exact so I’m always close to the cut to see and you’re probably saying “just put on the ejection tube that comes with it” well that’s an even worse design because once you do that it shoots it directly at you now instead of down and onto your pants.
i have Milwaukee, all my co workers use makita. i think both platforms are on par with each other, i was pretty impressed with the makita saw and actually just got one that i saw at a pawn shop for pretty cheap. since there are so many makita batteries floating around our jobsite i have no worries about keeping the saw powered even though i only got 2 batteries with it
that said, makita sells some worthless tools too. that little 5"? saw they sell won't even cut a 2x4 and shouldn't even exist imo. i mainly went for milwaukee because of the variety of cordless tools they offer, which makita just dosent have. i work on cars alot as well and didnt want different batteries for my auto tools, and the milwaukee 1/2" impact absolutely blows the makita out of the water with 739 vs 1400ft lbs. miluakee also makes a cordless 3/4 and 1" impact whereas makita dosent. i also like milwaukee's hackzall vs makitas one handed sawzall, the balance and length of the milwaukee really wins.out and makita should have just copied it like (im assuming) all the other brands did. the regular milwaukee sawzall however is awefull and just eats batteries.
i see automotive guys mostly using milwaukee, and i think a big part of the reason is they came out with that high torque impact and there was nothing on the market like it at the time. other brands are catching up but it seems like milwaukee has the automotive market.
The Milwaukee clogged because it was blasting thru that wet treated 4x … great review Clint 👍🏼👊🏼👊🏼
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I just picked up the Makita and LOVE IT! Slices through pressure treated 2x12s like butter. Feels like a Ferrari and looks like one too. That Milwaukee Fuel sure is a beast - the size of that motor! Thanks for the review.
So these are not true worm drive saws? Are they essentially sidewinders with a rear handle?
No they are not true worm drives. Even though they are rear handles, their gearing is 45 degrees instead of the 90 degrees with a true worm drive. So they are also not direct drive saws either. But, they sure do work well. And the left sided blade is perfect for us right handed people.
How many degrees is sidewinder?
I recently bought the Makita and was blown away by the performance. I have a dozen or so other Makita cordless tools, so the Milwaukee wasn't even a thought. Plus the local chain lumberyard in the San Diego area had the saw and 4 5hr batteries for under $270 out the door. Great deal. I also wedged that annoying thumb button in the run position. That feature kind of seems like a child safety feature. Milwaukee makes great tools, no arguement from me there. I think which ever saw anyone purchases they will be happy.
The makita is unreal good and magnesium metal even the motor case build quality is awesome
Milwaukee all day any day just the best for cordless tools on the market all there tools are just powerful !!
I just don’t think the battery technology is quite there yet on any of these saws..Yeah they’re convenient if you’re working up in the air as long as you have a couple extra batteries in your belt..But if you have a lot of ripping to do these things run out of gas way too quick and as I’m getting older they are just way too heavy
Thr problem is you didn't use the vacuum hose adapter that came in the milwaukee box. Mine has NEVER clogged using it connected to a shop vac which is how it was really intended to be used
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No one is ever going to use a shop vac in the field framing. I understand if you are in a clients home making some cuts, yeah use a vac. But the saw has to be able to perform without a vacuum. If I am going to have a vac plugged in the saw 24-7, we would be far less efficient. Also what is the point of cordless at that point? Just my opinion, have a good one!
Paul Auten or do you mean just the adapter without a vacuum? If so I stand corrected:)
The future looks even brighter for Milwaukee after this review. I hope they take the dislikes coming from the users and make the next models even better. Great review bud!
Thanks Jeff!!
had the mikita, I didn't like it seemed like no power, took it back, got the Milwaukee so glad I did it was much easier for me to use being small and female, I also got their hammer/drill kit, I feel like I can conquer the world ! lol
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18 volts and all that pwer love it
I from Canada and have used them all been doing framing for 30 years Milwaukee is the only one that will work all day in negative 20 and have had the same Milwaukee saw for 2.5 years not an issue
I got the marital refurbished like new condition. All my tools are Mikita was not looking at other brands and i don’t want a mix of different brands of batteries.
I own both LXT and M18 batteries and tools , but personally got the Makita on a BOGO deal with two 5Ah, dual charger and a cordless sawzall for $249. This is cheaper than the Milwaukee bare tool and we all know the HO batteries are over $100 each.
The Makita has been on sale several times and it's hard to beat for the price. If you ever spot the Milwaukee on sale for $249 with battery and charger jump on it.
Great review brother. ...
The makita sounds like an old lady compare to the furious Milwaukee ☇☇☇☇🏅🏅...
But I think the Dewalt is the overall winner.
Thanks for sharing such a lovely vid 🤘👍🤘👍🤘👍🤘
Yeah bro I think your right. The Dewalt won over all.
Definitely one small thing I like also is the wrench storage on the dewalt.
Not a chance. Power wise... Yes. But you can't even see your line with the dust extractor. And it throws dust all over you
great review, ill be getting the milwaukee rear handle circ saw with the home depot gift cards giveaway... that i won here on TRZ! thanks alot clint!!
Thats awesome buddy. Let me know how you like it bro!!!
this circ saw is a beast, the 8.0 h.o battery is great with this saw, and the runtime is awesome guys!
In my opinion, both saws are top of the line. But my pick would be Makita ,only because of the battery's swap out. And I prefer the extra weight on the Makita to keep my line in check... And let's not forget the fast charging, which is very important for me😊..