OMG. Hallelujah. Just bought my R5C today - I'm coming from R6 - and was just WTF. Thank God I found you answering exactly what I needed to know. I am subscribing! Thank you!
YES! This is EXACTLY what I was hoping for. I was becoming pretty concerned that I’d have to return the camera, because no object tracking is a dealbreaker for me, especially since this camera doesn’t have IBIS.
I appreciate your videos so much as I’m getting into video more. No one talks about the things you do - and you do it so well! No BS! Clear and concise!! Renting the R5C currently and this definitely helped me get things better situated in the Cinema OS! 🙌🏻 thank you!
You should consider making a full detail video of the cinema menu I’ve seen many videos that have only one section but not the entire menu in detail and what it does so please considering
I am preparing to make a video of a similar topic about the AF system of Canon R5C. I noticed this one after I met and talked with one Canon technician in Melbourne. Thank you for making this video and sharing the findings. Canon should explain this to the public in a more official way as early as possible, otherwise Canon R5C will lose its market share unnecessarily due to widespread misunderstanding of its AF system.
Amazing, thank you - I'm very new to the Canon Cinema cameras (old school 5D4 and R5 R6) and I hated the video AF system on the R5C and was totally gutted when I bought it and spent so much on a rig/vmount etc.. for it, these little tips you keep making are game changers. Thank you so much!
The thing I still miss in the R5C-AF is the animal-AF, hope the Cinema-AF will once get this upgrade and then I will be happy. While a walking cat can be tracked, it is difficult to see small birds in a tree, in this usecase the R5 is much better, also tracking flying birds works better on a R5. But I agree, the Cinema-AF from the R5C is really good! For me it is absolutely no reason to say that someone should not buy the R5C because of the AF, unless if he/she is not a bird videographer.
Same for me. And not only for animal. But also with people shot. Specially in 4K 120. Happened to me several times when capturing from side or behind! And yes; I do come from the R5/R6 background. For me it is set as whole area from the start. But several time for slow motion I can’t get the auto focus work! Issue with my copy!?
Haha! Well this was helpful. Coming from the R6 I was taken back by the way the autofocus was operating out of the box. “whole area” was what I was looking for so thank you!
Bryan, Thank you so much. I've had my R5 C since June and only recently started diving into video. As usual, your video provides great insight and suggestions on getting more from my camera.
Thanks for this! I actually never even THOUGHT about using the Whole Area option as I thought it would randomly lock onto subjects I didn't want in focus. It makes you wonder why Small and Large focus areas are even an option in the menu! as who wouldn't want to use the entire screen for AF?! I have the tracking option set to button 10 and have used that option extensively to make the AF system act more like the R5 I'm use to. Using Whole Area makes the AF system operate so much more like the R5! Like you said, I may only have to use tracking when using the EVF now. Can't wait to test this out.
The small/large are there when you want to manually AF on a certain point. It's good when you don't want the focus to auto change during a shot. This is what I use all the time, unless there is some fast moving object I need to track.
Spoke with a Canon rep at a camera convention and I was left with the impression that they perfectly well could give the R5's AF to the R5C but they just choose not to because a snappy, photo like AF doesnt serve the intrests of the majority of their cinema line users, hence we are left with a more manual focus pull like performance.
Thanks for this. What do you do if your camera is set on a rig where you don't have access to the touch panel or joy-stick controls and you want to keep the focus on, say, a moving car?
I've been renting an R5C nearly every weekend and it took me a long night of diving into the settings to figure this out as well. I hope future firmware updates make the R5C and the auto focus system a little more intuitive.
These are really good findings! Thanks for sharing! It would be awesome a firmware update that allows the tracker to be dragged in the display while using the viewfinder!
Great video. I struggled a couple of weeks ago switching focus from bride and groom and could not understand why auto focus wouldn’t let me touch on another person and make the change.
thanks a lot - that is eye opening!! - is there a trick to set the AF speed slower? It works with my RF 24-70, but not with your EF 24-70 mk1 (maybe mark2 Allows to set AF Speed?)and my Sigma. The focus shift in your video is much too fast. This doesn't look natural, not like manual. That bothers me a lot.
Thanks , Keep it coming ! As much R5C content you can make ! Can you make a video on best soc setup for fast delivery then also best streaming settings. May be the same. Also is you evf less contrasty than your lcd?
I use the tracking button I've programmed on my Camera and then select the person I want. The R5C, then does a pretty good job of locking on the subject and not trying to jump to the other person. Have a great day!
I am coming from a full manual focus rig and i more and more find the AF System on the R5C (once configured to taste) so good that i am actually considering to sell all the electronic follow focus stuff and manual lenses. it seems that 95% of use cases can be done with the AF, and for the other 5% i guess i can live with the not-so-optimal-to-focus-by-hand EF/RF lenses. one thing that bothers me is that the "tracking" function needs to be put on f.e. button 9 like here in the video to initialize, but once it is on you can press the joystick on the back to get the same function to re-arange the crosshair. why isnt it possible to put the "tracking" function on that joystick in the first place....would be much more intuitive and better to reach. it works in photo mode and is how i have setup my R6 too. why canon?
I am in love with the camera and its auto focus, 8K RAW and all that, but I can't get the auto focus to work when I am shooting 8K 60. First I thought it was because I am using sigma art lenses but then I tried an actual RF lens and it didn't work. Please help
Have you had any issues with the focus box disappearing? I’ve tried so many settings and cannot figure out how to get it back on screen in video mode. The autofocus is working but the box isn’t there to move around and see what area it’s focusing on.
I still have all my older EF glass, and the AF works great on them. You are missing a few options to fine detail AF, but for all practical purposes they have never let me down on a shoot. Have a great day!
Hey brother awesome videos usual. Hey I'm not sure if it's my phone or your audio but I can hear some artificial noises. I normally get that when I have my wireless transmitter right next to my recorder and I get the same interference. Maybe just my phone but please check your equipment as well.
You can still use AF in 120, but you do lose tracking. I made a video detailing S&F mode and talking about focus that you can watch here: czcams.com/video/Upd8MUma6ig/video.html. Have a great day!
I am using EF glass. The only difference you will see in the menu between the EF and RF is going to be in some of your AF speed settings. Have a great day!
Having used both for photography, the R5 and R5C are almost identical. The only "downfall" is that the R5C does not have IBIS for photo, so if you are shooting with really slow shutter speeds, you can not get away with it quite as much. I don't consider this a deal breaker, because the R5 and R5C have such clean ISO that if I'm in a dark handheld place I'll usually up the ISO rather than slow down the shutter and risk blur. Honestly, I never really shoot a lot of slow shutter handheld scenes anyway, so this lack of IBIS is not a big deal for me. All that being said, I really feel that when it comes to photos, these two cameras are virtually identical. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
@@DeafDirector Thanks so much. I'm mainly photographer but my clients have been screaming for professional video. Just had R5C delivered, haven't opened it yet. I shoot people in low light but people move quickly so slower shutter & IBIS wouldn't be an advantage. It's only the building/scenery shots that it would be come handy so good to know I can pump up the ISO.
@@DeafDirector One other quick question; do you find the EF lenses are ok for AF tracking and stabilisation. I have a lot pf EF & want to hold off buying RF.
@@jamesb5182 I love my EF lenses on the Canon R5 and R5C, and have had no issue with the AF Tracking at all. I honestly found that sometimes my EF actually focus better than the RF lenses, so I would see no reason to run out and buy RF lenses yet.
No IBIS or touch autofocus and far worse battery life? I see no reason to part with the Canon R5. The R5C doesn’t overheat and has marginally better dynamic range, which means DR still sucks. I’m not a pro and don’t use the video features except for short clips here and there. I love your channel and look forward to every new episode!! Please don’t treat the R5 like a step child and fail to post content about it as if it were no longer worthy of consideration.
Yeah if you're not a video guy this camera is not for you, for me I'm the opposite, video first and like to take a few photo's so the 5C is perfect for me. I don't want Ibis in a pro video camera, it causes more problems for what I shoot than it solves.
@@cruachfilms I am video-first; I'm just not a pro or anything like that. I shoot videos of events, vacations and such, to collect memories. The R5C would be a step backwards for me due to its lack of IBIS, long load times between video/photo mode, atrocious battery life, lack of touch focus, etc.
@@darqaegis9045 the 5C offers way more for video than the 5, better codecs, all the video tools like waveform, false colour etc, no recording limits, the list goes on, but again if you don’t need that then the 5 will be just fine.
You can set the digital image stabilization to low, medium or high on the R5C which will have different levels of cropping and with most of the newer lenses they have IS on them so not a big issue with video on this camera. If you are use to the R5 and It does what you need it to, then just continue to improve your skill set on it and forget about all the other cameras.
If only Canon had made some sort of handout or book where they would describe the camera in detail... kind of like a, I don't know, a manual? With instructions? Like an instruction manual (not sure if that's a real word). They could make a lot of money selling that. But they're probably afraid that it would just get pirated and handed out for free. That would in turn force Canon to hand it out for free themselves. Hmm. Maybe someday.
OMG. Hallelujah. Just bought my R5C today - I'm coming from R6 - and was just WTF. Thank God I found you answering exactly what I needed to know. I am subscribing! Thank you!
YES! This is EXACTLY what I was hoping for. I was becoming pretty concerned that I’d have to return the camera, because no object tracking is a dealbreaker for me, especially since this camera doesn’t have IBIS.
I appreciate your videos so much as I’m getting into video more. No one talks about the things you do - and you do it so well! No BS! Clear and concise!! Renting the R5C currently and this definitely helped me get things better situated in the Cinema OS! 🙌🏻 thank you!
You should consider making a full detail video of the cinema menu I’ve seen many videos that have only one section but not the entire menu in detail and what it does so please considering
I second this!
Brother I must say Thankyou. This is exactly the video I needed to see.
I am preparing to make a video of a similar topic about the AF system of Canon R5C. I noticed this one after I met and talked with one Canon technician in Melbourne. Thank you for making this video and sharing the findings. Canon should explain this to the public in a more official way as early as possible, otherwise Canon R5C will lose its market share unnecessarily due to widespread misunderstanding of its AF system.
I agree, I was shocked that such an important aspect was so hard to figure out. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
Ok sold. I’m buying this today. Thanks bro
Thanks a lot, this is very helpful and makes the R5C even better. I hope you find more „secrets“ which could be shared.
A PHANTASTIC video and GREAT instruction! Gracie/Thank you!
Amazing, thank you - I'm very new to the Canon Cinema cameras (old school 5D4 and R5 R6) and I hated the video AF system on the R5C and was totally gutted when I bought it and spent so much on a rig/vmount etc.. for it, these little tips you keep making are game changers. Thank you so much!
Omfg thank you Deaf God! I have a C70 that I'm comfortable with, but this r5c was killing me! Thank you thank you!!
The thing I still miss in the R5C-AF is the animal-AF, hope the Cinema-AF will once get this upgrade and then I will be happy. While a walking cat can be tracked, it is difficult to see small birds in a tree, in this usecase the R5 is much better, also tracking flying birds works better on a R5. But I agree, the Cinema-AF from the R5C is really good! For me it is absolutely no reason to say that someone should not buy the R5C because of the AF, unless if he/she is not a bird videographer.
The animal tracking is incredible on the R5. Have a great day!
Same for me. And not only for animal. But also with people shot. Specially in 4K 120. Happened to me several times when capturing from side or behind!
And yes; I do come from the R5/R6 background.
For me it is set as whole area from the start. But several time for slow motion I can’t get the auto focus work!
Issue with my copy!?
Just picked this camera up. Appreciate the tips!
Really appreciate these tips. I'm fairly familiar with the photo menu side, but the cinema menu is all pretty much new to me.
Excellent video. Thank you so much for sharing this info. Content such as this contributes so much to the community. Much appreciated!
Pure gold! As always 🔥
Haha! Well this was helpful. Coming from the R6 I was taken back by the way the autofocus was operating out of the box. “whole area” was what I was looking for so thank you!
Thank you! God grant you health!🎥
This really helped me, i thought the auto focus was bad on my R5c then My 5D mark 4, Thanks for this video
Great tips, thank you!
Amazing tips brother! Thank you!
Hope they help. I've gotten so many great tips from you. Have a great day!
Your various suggestions about the R5c were very helpful. Thanks so much!
Bryan, Thank you so much. I've had my R5 C since June and only recently started diving into video. As usual, your video provides great insight and suggestions on getting more from my camera.
Awesome! Thanks for posting this video, it was hepful to setup my R5C!!
Thanks so much for this. Awesome!!
Hey, YOU SAVED MY LIFE.
Great advice, I am a 5D mk 4 user and never used a video menu! this helped heaps!, thank you
Thanks for this! I actually never even THOUGHT about using the Whole Area option as I thought it would randomly lock onto subjects I didn't want in focus. It makes you wonder why Small and Large focus areas are even an option in the menu! as who wouldn't want to use the entire screen for AF?! I have the tracking option set to button 10 and have used that option extensively to make the AF system act more like the R5 I'm use to. Using Whole Area makes the AF system operate so much more like the R5! Like you said, I may only have to use tracking when using the EVF now. Can't wait to test this out.
The small/large are there when you want to manually AF on a certain point. It's good when you don't want the focus to auto change during a shot. This is what I use all the time, unless there is some fast moving object I need to track.
Well done!!!! Super
Spoke with a Canon rep at a camera convention and I was left with the impression that they perfectly well could give the R5's AF to the R5C but they just choose not to because a snappy, photo like AF doesnt serve the intrests of the majority of their cinema line users, hence we are left with a more manual focus pull like performance.
Very useful information. I've been thinking of upgrading to a Canon R5C, and this may have sealed the deal. Now to stack the cash to get one...
thanks man, this is super useful
What a man!
Very helpful, thank you
OMG! Thank you so much!!!!
Thanks so much for this video, the autofocus was driving me crazy but this is such an easy fix. I have subscribed to your channel!
So glad to have you along for the ride. Have a great day!
Thanks for this. What do you do if your camera is set on a rig where you don't have access to the touch panel or joy-stick controls and you want to keep the focus on, say, a moving car?
I've been renting an R5C nearly every weekend and it took me a long night of diving into the settings to figure this out as well. I hope future firmware updates make the R5C and the auto focus system a little more intuitive.
Great, thanks!
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These are really good findings! Thanks for sharing! It would be awesome a firmware update that allows the tracker to be dragged in the display while using the viewfinder!
This is really helpful! Thank you for sharing!
Great video. I struggled a couple of weeks ago switching focus from bride and groom and could not understand why auto focus wouldn’t let me touch on another person and make the change.
It drove me crazy, too! I hope this video helps you get around that. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
THANK YOU !!
very hulpful thanks!!
Nice man! Thanks for sharing the tip!
This is super useful, thanks for sharing! 👍🏻😀
thanks a lot - that is eye opening!! - is there a trick to set the AF speed slower? It works with my RF 24-70, but not with your EF 24-70 mk1 (maybe mark2 Allows to set AF Speed?)and my Sigma. The focus shift in your video is much too fast. This doesn't look natural, not like manual. That bothers me a lot.
Love your videos solving the issues with canon cameras. Many thanks. Would be greta to see your R5C vs R5 AF video. Sounds like R5 is better.
I Think I might just have to do a video like that. Have a great day!
Thanks , Keep it coming ! As much R5C content you can make !
Can you make a video on best soc setup for fast delivery then also best streaming settings. May be the same. Also is you evf less contrasty than your lcd?
Thanks, so much. I'm still uncovering little tricks on this camera everyday. I'll try and keep it coming. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
How do you operate R5c when 2 people in the frame but want only one person?
I use the tracking button I've programmed on my Camera and then select the person I want. The R5C, then does a pretty good job of locking on the subject and not trying to jump to the other person. Have a great day!
Killer tips. Thanks a lot. 👍🏼
Awesome! Thank you!
QUESTION: my 5th tab is blocked out. Why is that? Ive tried everything to turn it on for face tracking
I am also using R5c and having trouble with AF problem when focusing dancing person
because tracking is never could be perfect
I am coming from a full manual focus rig and i more and more find the AF System on the R5C (once configured to taste) so good that i am actually considering to sell all the electronic follow focus stuff and manual lenses. it seems that 95% of use cases can be done with the AF, and for the other 5% i guess i can live with the not-so-optimal-to-focus-by-hand EF/RF lenses.
one thing that bothers me is that the "tracking" function needs to be put on f.e. button 9 like here in the video to initialize, but once it is on you can press the joystick on the back to get the same function to re-arange the crosshair. why isnt it possible to put the "tracking" function on that joystick in the first place....would be much more intuitive and better to reach. it works in photo mode and is how i have setup my R6 too. why canon?
THANK YOUUUUU
DUDE THANK YOU!!
I am in love with the camera and its auto focus, 8K RAW and all that, but I can't get the auto focus to work when I am shooting 8K 60. First I thought it was because I am using sigma art lenses but then I tried an actual RF lens and it didn't work. Please help
Have you had any issues with the focus box disappearing? I’ve tried so many settings and cannot figure out how to get it back on screen in video mode. The autofocus is working but the box isn’t there to move around and see what area it’s focusing on.
thanks for your video! I have some questions, because in fast slow function it does not let me focus on the face or follow up, is it normal?
Great video. Does this all apply for older EF canon glass? How do they preform with autofocus?
I still have all my older EF glass, and the AF works great on them. You are missing a few options to fine detail AF, but for all practical purposes they have never let me down on a shoot. Have a great day!
Does the tracking work in 120fps though??
Hey brother awesome videos usual.
Hey I'm not sure if it's my phone or your audio but I can hear some artificial noises. I normally get that when I have my wireless transmitter right next to my recorder and I get the same interference. Maybe just my phone but please check your equipment as well.
Still working on how I am going to get this camera. Working the 4k on my 5D mark Iv seems like a waste of my time looking at this camera.
I love my 5Dmk4, but once you step up, be prepared to be blown away. Have a great day!
Well now I have the camera and still working on rig parts and balance of add on stuff. I would like better AF.
Hi tell me pls can I turn On autofocus on R5C in 120P? Or I cant?
Thanks=)
You can still use AF in 120, but you do lose tracking. I made a video detailing S&F mode and talking about focus that you can watch here: czcams.com/video/Upd8MUma6ig/video.html. Have a great day!
Are you using ef glass on your camera and is there in your menu to choose rf & ef?
I am using EF glass. The only difference you will see in the menu between the EF and RF is going to be in some of your AF speed settings. Have a great day!
I am disappointed that there is no animal tracking setting on the 5C
I have a pressing question. Is the R5C as good for photography as the R5? What do you see as the down falls of R5C for photography?
Having used both for photography, the R5 and R5C are almost identical. The only "downfall" is that the R5C does not have IBIS for photo, so if you are shooting with really slow shutter speeds, you can not get away with it quite as much. I don't consider this a deal breaker, because the R5 and R5C have such clean ISO that if I'm in a dark handheld place I'll usually up the ISO rather than slow down the shutter and risk blur.
Honestly, I never really shoot a lot of slow shutter handheld scenes anyway, so this lack of IBIS is not a big deal for me. All that being said, I really feel that when it comes to photos, these two cameras are virtually identical. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
@@DeafDirector Thanks so much. I'm mainly photographer but my clients have been screaming for professional video. Just had R5C delivered, haven't opened it yet.
I shoot people in low light but people move quickly so slower shutter & IBIS wouldn't be an advantage. It's only the building/scenery shots that it would be come handy so good to know I can pump up the ISO.
@@DeafDirector One other quick question; do you find the EF lenses are ok for AF tracking and stabilisation. I have a lot pf EF & want to hold off buying RF.
@@jamesb5182 I love my EF lenses on the Canon R5 and R5C, and have had no issue with the AF Tracking at all. I honestly found that sometimes my EF actually focus better than the RF lenses, so I would see no reason to run out and buy RF lenses yet.
@@DeafDirector Thanks so much!
No IBIS or touch autofocus and far worse battery life? I see no reason to part with the Canon R5. The R5C doesn’t overheat and has marginally better dynamic range, which means DR still sucks. I’m not a pro and don’t use the video features except for short clips here and there.
I love your channel and look forward to every new episode!! Please don’t treat the R5 like a step child and fail to post content about it as if it were no longer worthy of consideration.
Yeah if you're not a video guy this camera is not for you, for me I'm the opposite, video first and like to take a few photo's so the 5C is perfect for me. I don't want Ibis in a pro video camera, it causes more problems for what I shoot than it solves.
@@cruachfilms I am video-first; I'm just not a pro or anything like that. I shoot videos of events, vacations and such, to collect memories. The R5C would be a step backwards for me due to its lack of IBIS, long load times between video/photo mode, atrocious battery life, lack of touch focus, etc.
@@darqaegis9045 the 5C offers way more for video than the 5, better codecs, all the video tools like waveform, false colour etc, no recording limits, the list goes on, but again if you don’t need that then the 5 will be just fine.
@@darqaegis9045 czcams.com/video/PC-05b0VEp8/video.html
You can set the digital image stabilization to low, medium or high on the R5C which will have different levels of cropping and with most of the newer lenses they have IS on them so not a big issue with video on this camera. If you are use to the R5 and It does what you need it to, then just continue to improve your skill set on it and forget about all the other cameras.
How did you find the AF for stills? Same as R5?
AF for stills is the same as on the R5. Have a great day!
has none of those features in 120fps at any resolution... why is this such a shitty camera next to R5?? I miss my R5
If only Canon had made some sort of handout or book where they would describe the camera in detail... kind of like a, I don't know, a manual? With instructions? Like an instruction manual (not sure if that's a real word).
They could make a lot of money selling that. But they're probably afraid that it would just get pirated and handed out for free. That would in turn force Canon to hand it out for free themselves. Hmm. Maybe someday.
Great video. Thank you so much!
This is so great! Thanks!
Super helpful thank you!