No way she legally bought that gun, she was already charged with illegal possession of a firearm, the grandmother is lying and blaming guns, like they all do 🙄 Why didn't the grandmother do more??? Where was she to protect the kid?
@@Em22-wtf nowhere did she say She was blaming guns, what she was saying was the state’s inability to flag this woman with all of her mental illness tendencies.
you know what is a BIGGER MESS, these news outlets lying to us and thinking we wont find out, because at the start was fox news abc news etc. where theyy showing 4 pictures of this women and showing the transformation and saying that she was "white" when we can clearly see she is Mexican, and people on youtube were showing this off WAY BEFORE main stream media did soo they had no choice and show it also. i mean remember when the main stream media said that the "school shooter" at the Uvalde elementary school had a "shoot out" with the cops before he went inside, when CLEARLY that was a lie once we saw cops bodycam videos. also remember this.... the big media companies, like abc/fox/cnn and more will PROTECT government and not the people, because it comes down to money
The prison system now houses a lot of mental health people. That is due to the asylums being closed. It is time to reestablish them IMO! With better safeguards in place. Nothing is perfect but we can do better
@@PolarEXPNo they are not...I am a clinical psychology professor who trained psychologists ....I had a year's internship in a state mental hospital...you have watched too many fictional movies eg " The Cuckoo's Nest". These people need to be taking their MEDS and if they refuse then they must be under court ordered psychiatric care in an institution...look what happened because she WASNT! Her child started life with strikes against him due no doubt to brain damage in the womb as his brain was forming...this is my field of expertise, I know what I am talking about. Now he has ANOTHER brain injury...quite possibly fatal. If officials are con cerned THEY will catch heat for this woman not being in madatory care, and allowing HER to have custody being as impaored as she obviously WAS, they will put pressure to keep thIs child alive til the public interest wanes THEN let him die. He very well may be brain dead already and they may be hiding that that fact til the public furor dies down. What chance for a great life do you think this child had or has NOW, after all this trauma?
As she blames firearms & laws when this nutjob couldn't legally have firearms, she was already charged W illegal possession of a firearm. How come grandma didn't do more to protect that child?! Insane.
@@Em22-wtf Apparently, grandma's son Carranza is a registered sex offender this is why the custody of the boy was granted to the mother. The child protective services failed the boy again, they knew full well that neither of those people were fit to be a parent.
Takes her son to a mass shooting? Is known by the courts to be mentally ill yet the court gives her custody? The family court system needs some serious oversight.
Glad they finally released details that give useful and accurate background info to who the shooter was. Lots of red flags there. So many opportunities to deal with this behavior ahead of time. Sadly, her actions are her own and the consequences fall on her... and unfortunately the child too. God help those injured in this situation.
Sounds like what Hamas does with civilians in Gaza and the shooter is a male not female he was not a mother because he could not carry a child due to him being a biological male.
What explains what? And you realize the channel where you’re asinine comment is posted is mainstream media, right? JFC. Texas should be celebrating her, she had access to all those bums just like they want for all people. Oh wait, she’s probably the wrong skin color, they didn’t mean for those people.
This whole story just screams hidden details to me. I hear mental illness, mega church, female shooter, then the child… I just can’t help but think there is a lot more than the surface that we are covering. I hope the poor child pulls through, all my prayers and heart is out there for them.
He/she also had a deportation detainer on he/she so WHY wasn't he/she DEPORTED ??? That was a few years back . Someone in law enforcement has questions to answer
@@stockstock6805You can always go to Chicago, L.A., New Orleans, D.C., NYC, Detroit or Oakland. They have some of the strictest gun laws in the nation. I'm sure you'll be just fine in all the 'gun free' zones. It's a damn people problem and not a gun problem. There are thousands of responsible gun owners with no issue. Do you blame vehicles for DWI deaths? Do you blame McDonald's for someone being obese? Of course not! You blame the individual.
@@willhavel4525 Sorry to burst your bubble, the top five to ten states with the highest gun ownership in the US also have the highest rate of gun violence and they are almost all Red Republican Southern States. So only an Ignorant and foolish individual will look at those facts and still claim with a straight face that the readily availability of guns is not a major factor or doesn't play a major role in such violence plus most of those cities and states you mentioned with very strict gun laws are surrounded by states with very loose gun laws which has lead repeatedly to the influx of guns from those states with loose gun laws into the cities and states with very strict gun laws and wreaking gun carnage. Studies, statistics and data over the years have repeatedly shown that majority of the guns involved in violent gun crimes in those cities and states with very strict gun laws came from surrounding states with very loose gun laws. So your argument is weightless and baseless bud😏
@@EconomicWarfare I never think of God as being evil but there are stories in the Bible that would make you think so. Jehovah's witnesses have not witnessed anything, no more than anybody else. They need to be careful these days knocking on doors. People are nuts these days.
She has utilized both female and male names. However, interviews and documents, including the suspect’s driver’s license, showed that she has been identified this entire time as female, she, her, and so we are identifying her as Genesse Moreno, Hispanic female. Moreno was “identified as a female but has a criminal history in the name of Jeffrey Escalante.” A criminal record shows the names Jeffrey Genesse Escalante and Jeffrey Escalante Moreno as aliases. Moreno also used the name Jeffrey Moreno Carranza in a divorce case. 🤔
There's video I saw on X where she's was wearing a burka (not over her face) and says, "My name is Jeffery..." She wasn't transitioning but was identifying as a male.
Why didn’t the police do something when the neighbors reported the shooter time and time again. What happened to if you see something say something. This could have been prevented 🤬 they need to stop thanking themselves for doing what they get paid for.
Perhaps, our society has gotten to the point not to say anything for fear of being accused of being "a Karen/Darren", racist, too nosey, too religious, etc, etc, etc.
I believe the backgrnd check was supposed to find the mntl diagnosis, so....she should not have been able to purchase the item by our current law. No new law needed, they are always trying to add new laws when they are already in existence so they can add other hidden caveats.
A criminal background check will not pull mental health records. Those are protected by HIPAA unless previously reported in some sort of criminal proceedings with the court.
@@nguyenmelanie3192 well you can believe what you want but that illegal alien is a man and if that is what a woman is to you no wonder people are so confused in today's world.
I understand that there was a divorce but when was it granted? Before or after she started displaying psychotic behaviors. If before why was she granted custody with a history of violent behavior towards the father of her child as well as towards him. The criminal adjudications should have been entered into NCIC and would have prevented her purchase on the background check. Looks like what ever agency and court was involved in the prior domestic violence situations did not report as required. As usual in something like this a chain of mistakes or lack of follow through ended up allowing her to get the weapons legally.
No. The terrorist was legally prohibited from purchasing/obtaining/possessing ANY firearms, period. Even if your background check confabulation were to actually happen, it would STILL be illegal for the terrorist to purchase/obtain/possess ANY firearms.
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Why was the boy left in her care??? Not taking her medications as prescribed by her psych doctor can definitely cause problems. It should be made into law that individuals with diagnosed and documented mental illness should not be allowed to buy guns!!!
It is a law that "individuals with diagnosed and documented mental illness" are not allowed to buy guns. It's called the "Brady Bill'. It was passed after President Reagan was shot by a mentally ill individual who bought a gun. That was many years ago. The problem is the person has to be, as you said, "diagnosed and documented". If not, the mandatory background check will find nothing. The problem here wasn't the law. It was that all the people who dealt with her in the past, doctors, lawyers, judges, etc, apparently never "diagnosed and documented" her as having a mental illness. Was that because of political correctness? was it just because they felt sympathy for her? I don't know! But that's where the system failed. None of those people were willing to say "this person is mentally ill". And that's how she was able to pass the background check and buy the gun. The system didn't fail. The people involved did.
Huh, she seems like an upstanding citizen. No red flags at all that would tell officers and courts that she might need her weapons taken. Nope, none at all. The system works very well here.
I never understood why kids go to mothers by default. Men should have equal rights to their child especially if its documented that the woman has mental health issues.
Or maybe ask if cowards that want to commit Jihad to not have innocent human shields but hey just ask Hamas they do this everyday to avoid accountability. And this man is so mentally ill he believes Islam and trans values go together??? Ya that's mental illness at a new level.
Begs the question if a transwoman with a violent repeated history of assault when a male should be allowed scrub all traces of their identification when they identify as a female.
Well she’s not trans….she’s the biological mother of that child and her and the father are divorced and were in a custody battle. The father had connections to that church. The father had reported to the court that he was scared for his son’s safety because she was violent….she also was schizophrenic….but obviously the court still allowed her to be with the child.
There could also an issue here because she's an immigrant. If you're "undocumented" how do we know your mental history? Do some of these countries these people come from even keep records and if they do what's their mental health system like and how effective is it at tracking and identifying people with serious issues? When you just let undocumented people come into your country unchecked, how are you gonna know which one's are kosher and which aren't? Really, there's no way!
How about strict gun control laws? As a Healthcare worker we get them in the ER have no where to send them & they go back out in the streets. The Republican party Regan shut down state mental facilities in the 80's to supposedly save money. I was working in healthcare back then, we saw this coming. We treat our animals better in this country than we do our mentally ill & our elderly. We as a society are despicable. When we cannot take care of those who cannot take care of themselves then what are we???
That whole church and Joel himself are a mess. Screwed up prosperity gospel doctrine and the "smile through anything" issue to where Joel doesn't even seem human most of the time. You could tell this guy that a whole city just blew up and he'd smile and say, "Well, I guess God wanted it that way." As a Christian, I find him to be quite vile.
His organization is not a church. No building is a church. We are the church. The buildings we call "churches" are nothing more than just venues, houses of God, places of worship.
It is! But first they've gotta be declared crazy. The form you fill out ask that question and the background check looks for it. The problem is that if no doctor or judge ever declared the person mentally ill, the person isn't legally mentally ill. Apparently, no one ever did that. That's where the failure was. The problem wasn't the background check or the gun laws. It was all the people who let her off easy and never declared her mentally ill or never convicted her of a felony because they sympathized with her.
Most likely, she held him in front of her as a shield .... thinking that they wouldn't shoot her with the boy in front of her... I don't think it's a baby... I have read 5 and read 8.
@@kimberlygarrett1485. She wasn’t trans…she only used names to hide her identity like all criminals do. She is the child’s mother and the father had already reported her being violent and he fear for his son’s safety…..but of course the courts still allowed her to be with the child. She was also diagnosed schizophrenic years ago.
Nothing about the officers who prevented many more deaths from occurring. How stupid can a person be when they think that they would do any different if they were in that situation. The mother is the person to blame.
With his/her/they, being a part of the LGBTQIA2S+ community, the press will drop this attempted murder lickety-split, just as they have made similar killings go away.
I'll call out the media on doing such a thing, but so far the only evidence is one alias. Nothing else points to this person being trans . Being wrong about this isn't worth it. We need to know the child's DNA.
@@WillBlindYouWithLightthere is a video of her calling herself in a hijab calling herself Jeffrey. Aside from that, most trans people aren’t going to go around advertising that they are so unless they want attention.
She should have been a felon she kept getting weak judges that slapped her on the wrist. After her first charge the kid should be given to the more responsible adult how does crazy get custody is it also bad judges i think so.
And this is why she was able to get the gun. It's not the gun laws. If someone never gets convicted of a felony or is never declared mentally ill, because the judges and the doctors sympathize with them, the background checks won't stop them. It wasn't a failure of the laws or the system. It was a failure of the people who kept letting him or her get off easy every time.
@@EmperorKagato The Brady bill has nothing to do with red flag laws and it's still in effect nationally. It was passed and became law in the 1980s after a mentally ill man bought a gun and shot President Reagan. If you buy a gun anywhere in the US, it applies to you and you have to undergo the background check. I know, because I've done it numerous times. The problem is as I said. The law can only work if a person has been legally declared "mentally ill". When sympathy or political correctness causes Doctors, lawyers, judges, etc., to NOT follow through and declare a person "mentally ill", there's no way the system can work. It's not a failure of the system, nor the law. It's a failure of those people to do their due diligence! The problem is no one with the authority to do so, would stand up and say "this person is mentally ill". And that's why this happened.
After reading all these comments, all in all, it’s a sad situation to all that has happened. Sending prayers to the people shot at the Lakewood Church & especially to the 7 yr old little boy 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I'm confused. Was the shooter the father of his 7 year old son that was shot too? Do we have any real investigative journalists any longer that can do their job?
These aliases were fake ID's. In the 90s you could buy a new social security number and creat a new alias.This is common among illegal immigrants. Lord Jesus ☦️ have mercy upon us, Amen.
No matter whis bullet hit little Samuel, it is because the actions of his mother out him in this position to be fighting for his life today. Ill be praying for little Samuel. My twin sons are 7yrs old, the same age as him, & i could never imagine putting them in any danger let alone being the reason they get hurt..i feel so sad for this baby. I know nobodys parents are perfect but aren't you just grateful for them considering this woman is the alternative? I hope lil Samuel will get full functionality back and relearn how to heal and live after all hes been through ❤😢
Looks female to me. The only reason why anyone could give her custody, is because the father was somehow worse. She looks like a junkie, so, chances are he also is.
What’s crazy is - I can’t even get life insurance because my health records show that I once took anxiety medications and I don’t have any mental health alerting issues. But yet ppl can go buy a gun and there is no in depth background investigation is so bizarre to me. So a fallen system . I mean , go figure, we have so many undocumented immigrants living amongst us and we have so many things that we are just left open to . We need to pray and cover our families in the blood of Christ and stay alert ‼️… Be of Sober mind people .. accept Jesus and show yourselves approved for in the hour our time is up , we know where we will Go . 🙏
Documented mental illness but was able to obtain and keep assault weapons? A therapist would have recommended otherwise why did the state not do anything?!
How is the child doing and where is the biological mother of the child? Im so sorry to the man who was injured at Lakewood. For the Lakewood Church Family. For the family of the shooter. Most of all for this precious child and what he must have been living through, with someone who had some very serious mental problems. Im also sorry for the officers who were put in this position. To have to make a quick determination in a tiny window of time. No one knows but the who live it. May God, be with you all.
So the police had he/she in custody before and was charged with gun charges. OF THEY HADNT been soft on crime, this wouldnt have happened. ENFORCE EXISTING GUN LAWS.
I was just having this discussion with someone, when there is a known issue or issues with mental illness - NO MATTER WHAT STATE, that person should not be allowed to legally get any type of weapon!!!
Where are the images or video of her walking in the church?? You make it sound like we’re going to hear the mother speak but it is just a typed out . I knew it was gonna be typed out before I saw it. She is the typical perfect person “ if she’s even real” for this false flag. When you study this stuff, you know all the signs
nd she had CUTODY? With uncontroñled schizophrenia???? Child and Protective Service or some judge IS INSANE. Sybil Francis, Ph. D. professor of clinical psychology
All red flag laws are unconstitutional. You don’t fix a society by restricting the rights of others and ignoring the problem. You fix a society by educating the people, feeding the poor, and helping the elderly. Good values and love are what leads to good outcomes. Not pointing fingers and trying to blame others. Such a police state when we should be a mental hate state. We need help not prosecution.
This is the result of the lack of security at the border 😮😮😮😮😢😢😢😢😢God bless them Lakewood is a beautiful place to live and I hope they can find some comfort in their grief 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Sounds so familiar.. just like the lady who abused her husband and then killed a galleria employee after stealing her purse 😣 She also had multiple arrest
How is the grandmother going to put pressure on them cops she need to be putting pressure on her neck that’s her child that was doing the shooting people got the stuff mixed up get it together
Insee more stress in the shooter eyes and face something more sinister and probably victimizing (she was also a victim) that caused this out of control behavior I guess anyway of her using her voice because she wasn't being heard.
And the judge gives her custody, judge needs to be liable!!!!!
Or . . . "Him".
No surprise. The courts would rather give a child to a child molester than the dad. If they did that would mess up their bottom line
This was a biological MAN parading as a woman!
Family court is a scam. They dont care about the child, they care about following words on paper. Sad situation
@@bobby-ov9qn to be fair, she wouldn’t have custody if the judge thought she was a “he”
Someone dropped the ball, all those convictions, diagnosed with schizophrenia and she legally had a gun! Wth!
And a kid!
@@thechampagneroom1not against the law to have a kid.
No way she legally bought that gun, she was already charged with illegal possession of a firearm, the grandmother is lying and blaming guns, like they all do 🙄 Why didn't the grandmother do more??? Where was she to protect the kid?
@@Em22-wtf nowhere did she say She was blaming guns, what she was saying was the state’s inability to flag this woman with all of her mental illness tendencies.
he.... it was a MAN
The system is a mess when it comes to dealing with people with mental health issues. That innocent child should have been taken away from her😢
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Not to mention that she was legally cleared to purchase a firearm.
you know what is a BIGGER MESS, these news outlets lying to us and thinking we wont find out, because at the start was fox news abc news etc. where theyy showing 4 pictures of this women and showing the transformation and saying that she was "white" when we can clearly see she is Mexican, and people on youtube were showing this off WAY BEFORE main stream media did soo they had no choice and show it also.
i mean remember when the main stream media said that the "school shooter" at the Uvalde elementary school had a "shoot out" with the cops before he went inside, when CLEARLY that was a lie once we saw cops bodycam videos.
also remember this.... the big media companies, like abc/fox/cnn and more will PROTECT government and not the people, because it comes down to money
@@santiagobenites maybe there should be a way for us to start holding the system accountable wherever they fail us .
@denisematteau total mess
As the perpetrator, it's heinous enough to commit a mass shooting. But to bring your child to it is on a different level.
She was copying Hamas, using the child as a shield!🤬🤬🤬
Well, they already believe in abortion, so why not?
The prison system now houses a lot of mental health people. That is due to the asylums being closed. It is time to reestablish them IMO!
With better safeguards in place. Nothing is perfect but we can do better
Not only prison,,small hospitals that are for the elderly,,they keep this crazy people now,,its all about the money,,
Asylums are a form of torture
@@PolarEXPNo they are not...I am a clinical psychology professor who trained psychologists ....I had a year's internship in a state mental hospital...you have watched too many fictional movies eg " The Cuckoo's Nest". These people need to be taking their MEDS and if they refuse then they must be under court ordered psychiatric care in an institution...look what happened because she WASNT! Her child started life with strikes against him due no doubt to brain damage in the womb as his brain was forming...this is my field of expertise, I know what I am talking about. Now he has ANOTHER brain injury...quite possibly fatal. If officials are con cerned THEY will catch heat for this woman not being in madatory care, and allowing HER to have custody being as impaored as she obviously WAS, they will put pressure to keep thIs child alive til the public interest wanes THEN let him die. He very well may be brain dead already and they may be hiding that that fact til the public furor dies down. What chance for a great life do you think this child had or has NOW, after all this trauma?
Bravo to the Grandmother for posting what she said on Facebook.
hi do you happen to have a link?
As she blames firearms & laws when this nutjob couldn't legally have firearms, she was already charged W illegal possession of a firearm. How come grandma didn't do more to protect that child?! Insane.
@@MediaBear Don't have a link, but the Grandmother's name is Walli Carranza
@@Em22-wtfprobably afraid
@@Em22-wtf Apparently, grandma's son Carranza is a registered sex offender this is why the custody of the boy was granted to the mother. The child protective services failed the boy again, they knew full well that neither of those people were fit to be a parent.
How she get a gun with a record like that
A sick generation we live in
Right
Takes her son to a mass shooting? Is known by the courts to be mentally ill yet the court gives her custody? The family court system needs some serious oversight.
Glad they finally released details that give useful and accurate background info to who the shooter was. Lots of red flags there. So many opportunities to deal with this behavior ahead of time. Sadly, her actions are her own and the consequences fall on her... and unfortunately the child too. God help those injured in this situation.
That's one Hot Mess
Word!
She sacrificed her child
She thought they wouldn't shoot at her using him for a shield
@@WillBlindYouWithLightTrue. Slight correction, he sacrificed his child.
She was a woman & gave birth to him Stop spreading right-wing rumors!
Sounds like what Hamas does with civilians in Gaza and the shooter is a male not female he was not a mother because he could not carry a child due to him being a biological male.
@@daviddamian2776 agree on both points.
We live in a time where people don't need real evidence to believe whatever the media says🤷🏽
Fox news reported shooter "born a man" reports the ex husband is a sex offender. Why all these conflicting reports?
This explains why the MSM isn't too interested covering this story.
You troll
This is the most widely covered shooting where no one but the shooter died in history…..
Go tske your nap.
u cracked the code, Columbo!
What explains what? And you realize the channel where you’re asinine comment is posted is mainstream media, right? JFC. Texas should be celebrating her, she had access to all those bums just like they want for all people. Oh wait, she’s probably the wrong skin color, they didn’t mean for those people.
This whole story just screams hidden details to me. I hear mental illness, mega church, female shooter, then the child… I just can’t help but think there is a lot more than the surface that we are covering. I hope the poor child pulls through, all my prayers and heart is out there for them.
I hear mental illness and poor, young child. It could have happened anywhere. How can the church be responsible for her issues? What hidden issues?
He/she also had a deportation detainer on he/she so WHY wasn't he/she DEPORTED ??? That was a few years back . Someone in law enforcement has questions to answer
It’s a woman. It’s she. Wtf.
Not a single sign of red flag behavior prior to snapping and committing violent acts against strangers, none at all.
Common this is Texas🙄 every Tom, Dick and Harry is allowed to carry a gun😡
Oh yea there was, but the authorities did nothing about it, watch the videos where all the neighbors are talking about her ..
@@stockstock6805You can always go to Chicago, L.A., New Orleans, D.C., NYC, Detroit or Oakland. They have some of the strictest gun laws in the nation. I'm sure you'll be just fine in all the 'gun free' zones. It's a damn people problem and not a gun problem. There are thousands of responsible gun owners with no issue. Do you blame vehicles for DWI deaths? Do you blame McDonald's for someone being obese? Of course not! You blame the individual.
@@willhavel4525🎉🎉bravo! Thank you for saying this! It’s not a GUN problem, it’s a PEOPLE problem
@@willhavel4525 Sorry to burst your bubble, the top five to ten states with the highest gun ownership in the US also have the highest rate of gun violence and they are almost all Red Republican Southern States. So only an Ignorant and foolish individual will look at those facts and still claim with a straight face that the readily availability of guns is not a major factor or doesn't play a major role in such violence plus most of those cities and states you mentioned with very strict gun laws are surrounded by states with very loose gun laws which has lead repeatedly to the influx of guns from those states with loose gun laws into the cities and states with very strict gun laws and wreaking gun carnage. Studies, statistics and data over the years have repeatedly shown that majority of the guns involved in violent gun crimes in those cities and states with very strict gun laws came from surrounding states with very loose gun laws. So your argument is weightless and baseless bud😏
Finally we get more of the full story. I was getting worried that my favorite news station wasn't going to deliver
Only an idiot would believe random people on the internet!
When u go against God's Word , evil occurs.
You can do everything the Bible says and you will still come across evil times. This is why it’s important to have a relationship with God
@@chinadoll534 Evil was going on in the Bible.
@@GK-ku3zvJehovah, The God of the Bible is evil af. 😂
@@EconomicWarfare I never think of God as being evil but there are stories in the Bible that would make you think so. Jehovah's witnesses have not witnessed anything, no more than anybody else. They need to be careful these days knocking on doors. People are nuts these days.
@@EconomicWarfare God is not evil , but mankind has a proven track record of being so .
"They are not sending their best " . Build the wall. Close the border NOW !!
I'm afraid it's too late and whatever's been allowed in will eventually do a t- attack(s).
They're obviously not here just for welfare support.
How about common sense gun laws?
She has utilized both female and male names. However, interviews and documents, including the suspect’s driver’s license, showed that she has been identified this entire time as female, she, her, and so we are identifying her as Genesse Moreno, Hispanic female.
Moreno was “identified as a female but has a criminal history in the name of Jeffrey Escalante.” A criminal record shows the names Jeffrey Genesse Escalante and Jeffrey Escalante Moreno as aliases.
Moreno also used the name Jeffrey Moreno Carranza in a divorce case. 🤔
Thank you half them poops on this section think it's a man,,,,
Thought there were no sane people left thank God, like why would a transgender person donate, praise and go to Joel Osteen's church?
@@user-lp1jw9bo5yit IS a MAN. His DNA says so. Follow the science.
It's a transgender
There's video I saw on X where she's was wearing a burka (not over her face) and says, "My name is Jeffery..." She wasn't transitioning but was identifying as a male.
Why didn’t the police do something when the neighbors reported the shooter time and time again. What happened to if you see something say something. This could have been prevented 🤬 they need to stop thanking themselves for doing what they get paid for.
Perhaps, our society has gotten to the point not to say anything for fear of being accused of being "a Karen/Darren", racist, too nosey, too religious, etc, etc, etc.
How awful. This is such a tragedy. We need to pray for all involved.
She from Salvador del said
So what's your point!?
Ella salio del Salvador,,pero el Salvador no salio de ella.
How is that man the biological mother of that child? I just want to know that
I believe the backgrnd check was supposed to find the mntl diagnosis, so....she should not have been able to purchase the item by our current law. No new law needed, they are always trying to add new laws when they are already in existence so they can add other hidden caveats.
Criminals don't obey laws.
She used a clean alias.
A criminal background check will not pull mental health records. Those are protected by HIPAA unless previously reported in some sort of criminal proceedings with the court.
She should never been allowed to keep her son. She was prepared to put him in danger because of her mental health.
He is a biological man not a woman.
@@daviddamian2776if she was a man, she wouldn’t have been granted custody of her son would she?
@@nguyenmelanie3192 well you can believe what you want but that illegal alien is a man and if that is what a woman is to you no wonder people are so confused in today's world.
I understand that there was a divorce but when was it granted? Before or after she started displaying psychotic behaviors. If before why was she granted custody with a history of violent behavior towards the father of her child as well as towards him. The criminal adjudications should have been entered into NCIC and would have prevented her purchase on the background check. Looks like what ever agency and court was involved in the prior domestic violence situations did not report as required. As usual in something like this a chain of mistakes or lack of follow through ended up allowing her to get the weapons legally.
No. The terrorist was legally prohibited from purchasing/obtaining/possessing ANY firearms, period.
Even if your background check confabulation were to actually happen, it would STILL be illegal for the terrorist to purchase/obtain/possess ANY firearms.
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Why was the boy left in her care??? Not taking her medications as prescribed by her psych doctor can definitely cause problems.
It should be made into law that individuals with diagnosed and documented mental illness should not be allowed to buy guns!!!
It is a law that "individuals with diagnosed and documented mental illness" are not allowed to buy guns. It's called the "Brady Bill'. It was passed after President Reagan was shot by a mentally ill individual who bought a gun. That was many years ago. The problem is the person has to be, as you said, "diagnosed and documented". If not, the mandatory background check will find nothing. The problem here wasn't the law. It was that all the people who dealt with her in the past, doctors, lawyers, judges, etc, apparently never "diagnosed and documented" her as having a mental illness. Was that because of political correctness? was it just because they felt sympathy for her? I don't know! But that's where the system failed. None of those people were willing to say "this person is mentally ill". And that's how she was able to pass the background check and buy the gun. The system didn't fail. The people involved did.
Huh, she seems like an upstanding citizen. No red flags at all that would tell officers and courts that she might need her weapons taken. Nope, none at all. The system works very well here.
I never understood why kids go to mothers by default. Men should have equal rights to their child especially if its documented that the woman has mental health issues.
So if it’s her biological son, and she had a sex change or as a woman. Who won the right mind gave that man and her husband and kid?
No the child should not have been shot period. No excuses. Get the child out of harm’s way.
I would imagine there was no time to get the child out of the way as shooter was already shooting at everybody!
@@eleanormassaro5195 I agree
But some people don't live in the 'real world' to.understand that.
Or maybe ask if cowards that want to commit Jihad to not have innocent human shields but hey just ask Hamas they do this everyday to avoid accountability. And this man is so mentally ill he believes Islam and trans values go together??? Ya that's mental illness at a new level.
Begs the question if a transwoman with a violent repeated history of assault when a male should be allowed scrub all traces of their identification when they identify as a female.
Well she’s not trans….she’s the biological mother of that child and her and the father are divorced and were in a custody battle. The father had connections to that church. The father had reported to the court that he was scared for his son’s safety because she was violent….she also was schizophrenic….but obviously the court still allowed her to be with the child.
There could also an issue here because she's an immigrant. If you're "undocumented" how do we know your mental history? Do some of these countries these people come from even keep records and if they do what's their mental health system like and how effective is it at tracking and identifying people with serious issues? When you just let undocumented people come into your country unchecked, how are you gonna know which one's are kosher and which aren't? Really, there's no way!
Mental problems kills, not guns, this woman can use cars, knifes, etc. We need to deal with mental issue with better approach.
How about strict gun control laws? As a Healthcare worker we get them in the ER have no where to send them & they go back out in the streets. The Republican party Regan shut down state mental facilities in the 80's to supposedly save money. I was working in healthcare back then, we saw this coming. We treat our animals better in this country than we do our mentally ill & our elderly. We as a society are despicable. When we cannot take care of those who cannot take care of themselves then what are we???
That whole church and Joel himself are a mess. Screwed up prosperity gospel doctrine and the "smile through anything" issue to where Joel doesn't even seem human most of the time. You could tell this guy that a whole city just blew up and he'd smile and say, "Well, I guess God wanted it that way." As a Christian, I find him to be quite vile.
So Christians aren't supposed to prosper, we're just supposed to live in poverty all our lives?!??
You are 💯💯 right!😱😱
We need to pray for him and let God judge him.
You are so right false prophet
His organization is not a church. No building is a church. We are the church. The buildings we call "churches" are nothing more than just venues, houses of God, places of worship.
It’s should be automatic that crazy people cannot own guns no matter what state she is from.
Over 30 million people are going to vote for a felon and a treasonous man and they all own guns. So what is your definition of crazy??? What is it??
It is! But first they've gotta be declared crazy. The form you fill out ask that question and the background check looks for it. The problem is that if no doctor or judge ever declared the person mentally ill, the person isn't legally mentally ill. Apparently, no one ever did that. That's where the failure was. The problem wasn't the background check or the gun laws. It was all the people who let her off easy and never declared her mentally ill or never convicted her of a felony because they sympathized with her.
All this and that poor boy was left with her?
Obviously the grandmother is coming in Halloween in after the fact
Is there body camera footage why was the baby boy shot
Most likely, she held him in front of her as a shield .... thinking that they wouldn't shoot her with the boy in front of her... I don't think it's a baby... I have read 5 and read 8.
Shield for disturbed trans parent
Off duty cops, so I doubt they had state owned body cams on!
@@kimberlygarrett1485. She wasn’t trans…she only used names to hide her identity like all criminals do. She is the child’s mother and the father had already reported her being violent and he fear for his son’s safety…..but of course the courts still allowed her to be with the child. She was also diagnosed schizophrenic years ago.
Nothing about the officers who prevented many more deaths from occurring. How stupid can a person be when they think that they would do any different if they were in that situation. The mother is the person to blame.
Prayers
Praying all family
With his/her/they, being a part of the LGBTQIA2S+ community, the press will drop this attempted murder lickety-split, just as they have made similar killings go away.
I'll call out the media on doing such a thing, but so far the only evidence is one alias. Nothing else points to this person being trans . Being wrong about this isn't worth it. We need to know the child's DNA.
Q covers all of that community. That's the only letter they need!
Not true
Go listen to the hour long video of her neighbors talking about her.. she never once told them she was trans
@@WillBlindYouWithLightthere is a video of her calling herself in a hijab calling herself Jeffrey. Aside from that, most trans people aren’t going to go around advertising that they are so unless they want attention.
Just another IMPORTED usual suspect
She should have been a felon she kept getting weak judges that slapped her on the wrist. After her first charge the kid should be given to the more responsible adult how does crazy get custody is it also bad judges i think so.
The child's father was beating the child...
And this is why she was able to get the gun. It's not the gun laws. If someone never gets convicted of a felony or is never declared mentally ill, because the judges and the doctors sympathize with them, the background checks won't stop them. It wasn't a failure of the laws or the system. It was a failure of the people who kept letting him or her get off easy every time.
@@stefanl5183 you won't be prevented from getting a gun as we have done away with any red flag laws
@@EmperorKagato The Brady bill has nothing to do with red flag laws and it's still in effect nationally. It was passed and became law in the 1980s after a mentally ill man bought a gun and shot President Reagan. If you buy a gun anywhere in the US, it applies to you and you have to undergo the background check. I know, because I've done it numerous times. The problem is as I said. The law can only work if a person has been legally declared "mentally ill". When sympathy or political correctness causes Doctors, lawyers, judges, etc., to NOT follow through and declare a person "mentally ill", there's no way the system can work. It's not a failure of the system, nor the law. It's a failure of those people to do their due diligence! The problem is no one with the authority to do so, would stand up and say "this person is mentally ill". And that's why this happened.
Also, I just saw a video where it said the father was labeled as a sex offender!
We got all flavors with this one😂
😂😂
A regular senora Baskin Robins....
Excellent story dudes!
Excellent?
Wow, they keep changing the mockingbird story.
Infowars has the real story
This is said for this baby 🙏🏿
MAN, what an inhuMANe thing to do to HIS fellow MAN.
After reading all these comments, all in all, it’s a sad situation to all that has happened. Sending prayers to the people shot at the Lakewood Church & especially to the 7 yr old little boy 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I'm confused. Was the shooter the father of his 7 year old son that was shot too? Do we have any real investigative journalists any longer that can do their job?
No, the father is someone else. The shooter was the mother, but she has used male name/identity at times in the past which is why the confusion.
judges are accountable for letting her go 5 times.
These aliases were fake ID's. In the 90s you could buy a new social security number and creat a new alias.This is common among illegal immigrants.
Lord Jesus ☦️ have mercy upon us, Amen.
She's where she belongs now. And SHAME on the court for allowing her to have custody of that poor sweet baby.
He is a man not a woman.
My Lord. How could she, a mother, take her young child along with her to shoot people in a church???
Unbelievable!
No matter whis bullet hit little Samuel, it is because the actions of his mother out him in this position to be fighting for his life today. Ill be praying for little Samuel. My twin sons are 7yrs old, the same age as him, & i could never imagine putting them in any danger let alone being the reason they get hurt..i feel so sad for this baby. I know nobodys parents are perfect but aren't you just grateful for them considering this woman is the alternative? I hope lil Samuel will get full functionality back and relearn how to heal and live after all hes been through ❤😢
We need a 3-strikes law in effect; life imprisonment without parole. That would have prevented this tragedy.
Feminism & lame judges strike again, blood on their hands yet again
Toxicology Please.
Shame no one is showing the videos of her wearing a hijab.
The full footage is available. She didn’t appear to wear a headdress at any time.
Houston CPS needs your answers to why this mom had custody after shes been diagnosed with a mental illness
He is a biological male so he is the father.
THATS NOT THE QUESTION@@daviddamian2776
Looks female to me.
The only reason why anyone could give her custody, is because the father was somehow worse.
She looks like a junkie, so, chances are he also is.
who is the shooter and who is the victim? are you really sure that the woman is the shooter?
What’s crazy is - I can’t even get life insurance because my health records show that I once took anxiety medications and I don’t have any mental health alerting issues. But yet ppl can go buy a gun and there is no in depth background investigation is so bizarre to me. So a fallen system . I mean , go figure, we have so many undocumented immigrants living amongst us and we have so many things that we are just left open to . We need to pray and cover our families in the blood of Christ and stay alert ‼️… Be of Sober mind people .. accept Jesus and show yourselves approved for in the hour our time is up , we know where we will Go . 🙏
Red Flag Laws? Grandma had me until suggesting that as a solution
Documented mental illness but was able to obtain and keep assault weapons? A therapist would have recommended otherwise why did the state not do anything?!
Very sad. I bet her former husband felt her wrath on a daily basis...
How is the child doing and where is the biological mother of the child?
Im so sorry to the man who was injured at Lakewood. For the Lakewood Church Family. For the family of the shooter.
Most of all for this precious child and what he must have been living through, with someone who had some very serious mental problems.
Im also sorry for the officers who were put in this position.
To have to make a quick determination in a tiny window of time. No one knows but the who live it.
May God, be with you all.
The biological mother is the deceased shooter, moron. But by all means keep trying to use this for anti-trans hatemongering.
she is the mom
She is his biological mother.
Stop listening to Alex Jones.
WTF?????@@Bonjour-World
Fox news reported shooter "born a man".
So the police had he/she in custody before and was charged with gun charges. OF THEY HADNT been soft on crime, this wouldnt have happened. ENFORCE EXISTING GUN LAWS.
It's just sad all around. Her child she used as a shield had ni say iver this matter. God bless this child and give gim a speedy recovery. 😢
The Joe should be completely liable for that child
I was just having this discussion with someone, when there is a known issue or issues with mental illness - NO MATTER WHAT STATE, that person should not be allowed to legally get any type of weapon!!!
Courts have a history of always taking the maternal mothers side.
He is a biological male not female.
@@daviddamian2776 no stranger than fiction is a female that wants to be a male.
Maternal mother 😂 my god people are lost .. where is Jeffreys baby momma at anyways she's probably not well either
Where are the images or video of her walking in the church??
You make it sound like we’re going to hear the mother speak but it is just a typed out . I knew it was gonna be typed out before I saw it.
She is the typical perfect person “ if she’s even real” for this false flag.
When you study this stuff, you know all the signs
nd she had CUTODY? With uncontroñled schizophrenia???? Child and Protective Service or some judge IS INSANE. Sybil Francis, Ph. D. professor of clinical psychology
All red flag laws are unconstitutional. You don’t fix a society by restricting the rights of others and ignoring the problem. You fix a society by educating the people, feeding the poor, and helping the elderly. Good values and love are what leads to good outcomes. Not pointing fingers and trying to blame others. Such a police state when we should be a mental hate state. We need help not prosecution.
Keep telling yourself that BS as more people are dying.
Oh, Joel been to the hospital yet?
Did you read his statement about the horrible event ?
Have you been to the hospital ?
@@debrasloan5541 most fathers visit their child when they are in the hospital😮
@@cynthiamoore8022 is there any proof Joel is the ' father'
This is the result of the lack of security at the border 😮😮😮😮😢😢😢😢😢God bless them Lakewood is a beautiful place to live and I hope they can find some comfort in their grief 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Nothing to do with having really lax firearm laws in Texas?
If she was a black woman best believe her firearms and children would've been removed from her after all those arrests. Just ridiculous!
Sounds so familiar.. just like the lady who abused her husband and then killed a galleria employee after stealing her purse 😣
She also had multiple arrest
May the child survive,...God be with them...may the child recover....(she's a nutcase...she had SERIOUS mental issues..!!)
How can it be he/she biological son. One news say's She use to be a HE
So, the report that Moreno is a female transexual is false???
Yesterday they said she was a transexual (born a male).
Is that true or not true?
She gave birth to a child it's all BS she is a women plain and simple. Transgender males do not have female reproductive parts.
Is a natural woman who has previously used a male name/identity, and is clearly insane, brought her 7yo son to a murder.
Why is the public not told ALL THE DETAILS. Why withhold the truth. I suppose once again it is confirmed that the TRUTH is hard to digest.
How is the grandmother going to put pressure on them cops she need to be putting pressure on her neck that’s her child that was doing the shooting people got the stuff mixed up get it together
I guess the fake news just gonna pretend Jeffrey wasn't born dude
the liberal courts and aclu would have sided with her had authorities tried to do something about her prior to the shooting
YT AI is so good at detecting diversity in these stories that they played me a Popeye's ad before it started.
The shooter was a trans male using 2 aliases.
...and illegal drugs, to include marijuana.
@@YernBelfus400 there have been 4 mass shooting events and the connection was they were all trans. Any more questions?
Is it a man or a woman???
Man the husband even confirmed Jeffrey was the legal name
Hate crime
Christian crime
Insee more stress in the shooter eyes and face something more sinister and probably victimizing (she was also a victim) that caused this out of control behavior I guess anyway of her using her voice because she wasn't being heard.
She/he was married to a guy, her husband? How in the world did they physically have a child together? Why was child services never called? Weird
It was a man not a woman
Lol. I don’t know what you watched. That’s the kids MOM.
I thought the shooter died
She is
If she is a man was it by immaculate conception that her child was born.
She was consumed by evil. Stop making excuses for her evil behavior.
The true Church of God is PROTECTED by ANGELS and is IMPENETRABLE.
Tell that to the child. Don’t really believe a man of God should be living like Joel does?
Well it's cheaper to eliminate the threat then spend tax dollars on food and housing in jail.
Doesn't make sense to anyone that this shooter is using non-binary terms describing herself or himself.