WHY YOU SHOULDN'T ATTEND AN IVY LEAGUE COLLEGE
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- Turning down a top tier school is really hard. Here’s why you should do it.
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Mentioned in the video:
✏ The Ivy League (MIT is not technically an Ivy but I thought saying top tier university was kind of a mouthful) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League
✏ Michigan State University full scholarship (covers everything to go to college) admissions.msu.edu/finances/s...
✏ That news article that gave me the chills www.businessinsider.com/ivy-le...
✏ MIT tuition costs web.mit.edu/facts/tuition.html
✏ The majority of people pay more to go to an Ivy www.washingtonpost.com/news/w...
✏ The other point of view: www.cnbc.com/id/41603641
✏ If your family earns under ~60k a year, you will likely get full financial aid from a top tier school www.thecrimson.com/article/200...
✏ Previous video, about why I majored in computer science www.youtube.com/watch?v=3coE3...
✏ Next video, funny stories and my experience as a college teaching assistant (TA) • TAs are humans too | T...
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This is such an amazing video. I graduated from UCLA in 2013 and have come to realize that I primarily chose going there for its prestige. I had a great experience, but when I was applying to schools, I applied to mainly name-brand schools that everyone knows. I thought that by going to a recognizable school, I'd instantly be successful upon graduation. Turns out, my path completely changed from what I thought I wanted to do in college to what I'm doing now. No one really cares what school I went to. They just care if I can get the job done. Thank you so much for making this!
UCLA!? Seriously? A State school. Did your parents disown you? Mine would have.
I would disown you too with that attitude
jim LEHMN Dont be so mean
Andi Hester thank you so much for this. my dream school has always been UCLA but i don't even know what i want to do in college. majoring in communications but don't know what career to do
This is so different in India. Where companies only want to hire from select campuses.
This is an excellent message for middle-class families that tend to receive a disproportionately low amount of aid. However, low-income families shouldn't listen to this, since the Ivies give an enormous amount of aid to such people. I received a full ride to Yale because of my financial need, so people in families that make less than $65k a year shouldn't take this video as a sign that they should give up before applying.
The thing about ivies and other top tier schools like MIT is that their value lies in the ubiquitous networking opportunities available to you at those prestigious institutions
very true
and this could be very important to one's career as well.so much to consider
While you bring up a good point, I would argue that it's mainly about what you DO in college (actively network, attend presentations, work hard). And by the way, this is coming from someone going to Princeton next year (I'm not biased against top schools).
She just debunked that tho...
This comment is everything!
I absolutely love the message of this video. I have always put so much pressure on myself to attend a "top tier" school. I was rejected from almost all of the prestigious schools I applied to (Dartmouth hurt the worst, I applied there early decision). I was waitlisted at a few schools that were ranked amongst the ones I was rejected to (Boston College, Washington University in St. Louis) but never accepted the waitlist spots because I was so crushed by all of my rejections. In the end, with financial aid considered, I was between Miami University (in Ohio) and Lehigh. Lehigh is ranked much higher, but I ended up choosing Miami. I am so excited to attend Miami University the fall because it is the perfect place for me! I will be in their honors college and have already been invited to do research with a select group of freshmen. I feel that many of my peers (myself included) spent too much time during their college search focusing on the prestige of prospective schools, instead of finding the institution that was the right fit for them!! At the end of the day, It is your character and drive that will get you places, not the name of the university that you attended.
Hi Madeleine! Just out of curiosity (as I will applying to Dartmouth ED) what were your test scores, GPA and extra curriculars? I by no means want to pry but I'm in that pre college application anxiety season and I am hoping to bring myself a little peace of mind. Good luck at Miami 😊
what were your test scores, GPA and extra curriculars?
Most Ivy League schools will pay for your tuition if financial problems are a concern. This actually one of the larger benefits of going to an Ivy League.
More importantly though, undergraduate school helps you get connected with very influential people, and if you want a respectable job or simply want to go further into graduate school, these connections are many times more important than what you actually did while in school.
Not true.....Many upper middle income families most often can't pay the 40K-70K expected parent contribution yearly.
Thank you for sharing! I'll probably be going to my safety school for financial reasons, and it's nice to get the reassurance that I'm making the right decision. You have my subscription. :)
+appsademia Thanks and welcome to my CZcams family!
+appsademia hey! I watch your college admissions videos and I really like what you have to say. I was accepted to an Ivy League school, however, I will be attending my the Honors College at my local state school. The Ivy was 200k, but the state school was full ride including dorming. People might think that I'm crazy to reject an Ivy, but in truth, I have another four years of medical school and four younger siblings. It's super refreshing and reassuring hearing that I'm not the only one making such a relatively counterintuitive decision. Much like you, I regret even applying to Ivies and feeding into the superficial obsession with overpriced brand name schools....good luck!
+Amir Elzomor your really thoughtful. It's very hard to have siblings.
appsademia lol same, but my parents made that decision for me
If you have talent you don’t need to worry about the expense they will take care of it
At first I shrugged at this video, but I still decided to watch it anyways and I feel as though I made the right decision. This video is reassuring and she hit the nail right on the head when she said, "you are the magic in the equation." I'll see y'all at the top (tips hat).
Something to think about, as a senior in high school I have to thank you for making this
WOW! Thank you very much for posting this video! I'm a senior in high school and was recently denied admissions to both my top and second pick schools (USC & RIT). I was completely shocked when I got rejected from RIT since I matched the school's academic recommendations and firmly believed that I would get in. It felt like all of my plans to become a computer/software engineer had just fallen through the floor. I too was worried about not having hard working or smart people in my classes.
Since I felt really down, I went on the Internet and started reading forums and articles about engineers and their experience in their field. What I discovered was that it was not the schools ranking or prestige that made those people successful but rather their passion, enthusiasm and drive to grow and learn. Heck some of them only went to community college and still managed to work alongside people from a "top" 4-year school. Although I haven't made a final decision yet, I'm leaning towards going to Temple University where I'm offered a decent financial aid and scholarship as an in-state.
The title shouldn't be "why you shouldn't attend an ivy league college" and instead "why you don't have to attend an ivy league college."
Misleading title because of 1:00. Plus, the title is obviously generalized.
Lisa S Read the description
Just wanted to say thank you for making this video. Next year I'll be a senior in high school so I've been looking at colleges (and a couple of Ivy schools)... After doing some introspection I could tell there was a perspective I hadn't yet considered when it comes to making the decision of where I will attend next year, and your video helped me realize that it was my own confidence level. I'm definitely going to think it through a little more. Thanks again.
This video mentions everything that I stand for. An Ivy league will certainly help you get the career you want, but if you want to be the best and most successful at your "dream" job, you have to get there yourself. And an Ivy league school certainly will not take you there all by itself
Choose a school based on the academic environment first. My choice was between UC Berkeley and University of Chicago. I chose Chicago because the student faculty ratio was smaller, it got glowing reviews from students who went there, and I knew that it was a great learning environment. And it was. I also got taught by actual professors. On the flip side, the weather was terrible.
You don't need an Ivy stamp, but it won't hurt. I take your point that you should not go if it is to serve your self esteem, but I think it is naive to say that "hard work" alone will get you what you want. The cost of top American universities is simply catastrophic for middle class families: you don't qualify for much aid, if any, so 1/4 million is a high price. Finally, beyond the options lower-tier scholarships, there are also European universities to consider, some of them among the best in the world. It is a pity more Americans don't consider them.
Come to India and study for dirt cheap
And African Asian and South American
Obviously a full ride is better than an ivy. As someone who goes to an ivy (who did early decision) if you can get a free education somewhere DO IT.
Kelly where do you go to
Thank you for the sound advice, Angie. This was really helpful - especially during this stressful college application time. :)
This made me feel much better! I had gotten into UT Austin and UC San Diego/Irvine, but chose to go to the University of Texas at Dallas because they had offered me a scholarship that would make my cost for 4 years around $25k. Seeing so many people around me going to top tier and upper level universities made me feel like I was missing out, but it's always inspiring to see people create their own success through hard work at a lesser known school than have opportunities handed and thrown to them at an Ivy.
Thank you for this video!
+Nadia N Thank you!
This was very helpful. I've been brooding over similar questions. Thanks!
Thank you so much for putting a video like this together. In my high school it is very competitive and many, many, MANY kids are always constantly talking about the Ivy League school of their dreams and all the debt they're willing to go into just to go to these schools, because if they don't go they'll be failures in life. Rarely do we ever get insight and perspective from the outside world and I'm thankful you were able to provide that for me today. As a student studying computer science myself, I hope to one day work at the same place you do. Thank You again for giving your experience and showing how there are more ways to get to the same place.
+Jalen Gonel Thank you!
These are some really wise words. You are absolutely right. At the end of the day, it's not about where you are, but it's about who you are. I guess we just have to be courageous enough to take our own journey to success.
Its really hard to see the dream crumble.You brought me tears! I am sure there would be a day when I will be proud on my decision and destiny coz I truly believe in my self. Thanks for the support. May be I am gonna watch this video over and over again. It has a very subtle but strong message.
Thank you so much for making this video :) As a high school junior right now this is the exact advice I needed to find to dissuade me from making decisions which stem from a lack of self confidence in my potential to achieve my goals in the future.
Aw thank you for making this video!! I was just having a bit of doubt with my college choice yesterday (SJSU) as I saw many of my friends commit to more top-tier colleges such as Cal & other UC's! I messed up pretty bad in my junior year and my sudden grade drop during the most critical year in HS made it pretty much impossible to get accepted into my ideal UC's. Even though I will be going to my safety school, the school still has a solid program for what I'm planning to study (Industrial Design) and hopefully with the school's proximity to the center of tech, I'll be able to thoroughly explore the integration of design in tech!
+Ivy Chen Thanks!
Thanks for this video!! I recently chose UCLA over Columbia, and was really starting to regret it even though I haven't even started college yet, haha. It's nice to know that someone else has been in pretty much the same situation I'm in. While there's definitely the fear that I'm letting an amazing opportunity go, I think you've helped reassure me that UCLA is just as good for me as Columbia would have been.
+AndrewGlot, awh so happy to hear that! Good luck at UCLA!
I loved UCLA! I attended UCLA for purposes of a mid-life career change and it was fantastic. The campus is lovely and the professors were kind, intelligent and interesting - one was an FBI agent! So, heads-up, you'll probably change your mind about what you want as a profession and you'll need more education.... a few years after UCLA I changed my mind AGAIN, went to two private colleges and now I work in the South Pacific as a CT Technologist in a new hospital here. Life is a journey, enjoy yourselves : )) I paddle board in turquoise waters when I'm not seeing patients (I'm almost 55.)
Ivy League universities' reputation is far better than they really are. Especially when it comes to teaching. (And this is the only thing that matters to you as a student, research is for PhDs and Profs.)
Therefore: Got to europe. Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, Norway. The average university there is much better than all Ivy League universities. Go to a good university (e.g in Germany any of the 9 TU's that are in the excellence initiative) and have far better education than any Ivy League College can offer.
And most importantly. Dont pay 200k to study. Rather: GET PAID around 500 Euros (= 570 USD) per month to study.
It's as simple as that. Dont study in a country that wants the people to stay uneducated by charging insane amounts of money.
Study where people want you to study, want you to have the best education possible. Get supported while studying.
+Fuuton I've heard a lot of great things about European schools myself, including the cheap price (: Unfortunately I have not gotten a chance to try it out myself. I would love to learn more about it.
I'll second that. Although I'm not sure how Dutch universities compare to the Ivies in terms of education, most are ranked highly. More importantly, tuition in the Netherlands is much cheaper than in the US, even for non-EEA students. However, you are not paid in the Netherlands to go to university. You can take out a loan with a zero percent interest rate. It's a pretty good deal :)
this is for peasants
Could you please explain a bit more? This is interesting
Do you know if France is good for medicine?
Hey, thanks so much for this, Angie! I really needed this!
Hey Angie, I decided to attend Western Connecticut State University as a CS major, and it is possibly one of the best decisions I've ever made! I just warped up my freshmen year and although the program is small it is highly challenging, and instead of counting on others to help me make opportunities I've made my own. I think that this has made me not only more independent, a big money saver, but an overall confidence booster because it has truly allowed me to transition into the adult world. I'm working as a Junior Developer this summer and only hope that one day I will be able to work at Google just like you!
+Nikita Karim, that's so awesome! Congratulations and I hope to see you at Google one day! (:
i'm going to be a freshman at Michigan State University this fall! Great advice, i subscribed! :)
I know it is not of my business but I wish you the best.
Go blue!
Similar situation here. I have the option of UCLA/Berkeley with half scholarship or Duke with 0 financial aid. For the longest time I thought Duke was my only option since it has the biggest name behind it. As I looked at the financial burden it would put on my family I began to look hard at what Duke could provide and whether it justified a 50k+ price delta. I'm not going to a top 10 school next year and that doesn't mean my life is over, college will be whatever I make of it. Thanks a bunch.
Congrats!!! UCLA and UCB are amazing schools!! Rankings are pointless and misleading, I'm sure if they're not "top 10" they're definitely/should be top 20, which is still extraordinary!
Hey Nicki are you Greek? Where are you from? I am a Greek and am looking for Greek-Americans to chat and talk about education and living in the US.
Kind Regards,
Thanasis
+Αθανάσιος Τσαγκαδούρας I am indeed!
Nicki Panayotou So is there anyway to chat with you? What do you say about that,are you interested? Of course if you have the time and you are in a mood.
+Αθανάσιος Τσαγκαδούρας sure, εχεις twitter?
i respect this...and congrats on your dream job. i love the advice that you gave. ppl including nyself needed to hear this!! Good Luck on your future endeavors!!
Great video that I wish I had seen as a high school senior. Subbed.
+zdaman011 Thank you and welcome to my CZcams family!
Thank you for this video. You are solely responsible for changing my perception on the higher ed system.
This video is literally amazing and so many people need to see this.
+Adrienne Gefre Awhh thanks! (:
As someone who recently rejected Harvard for this exact reason (scholarship vs. no financial aid) it was incredibly reassuring to watch this.
Harvard has a lot of prestige attached to it (as does any top-ranked school), and most people automatically assume you'll be going to it or at least a school of similar stature, so it was incredibly stressful deciding between the 2 (even if I knew ultimately that I wouldn't be going to Harvard). Which is ridiculous; the school I'm going to isn't a bad school (if you're getting an education, any school regardless of ranking is a good one) and I'm incredibly privileged to call it my home for the next 4 years.
So thank you for making this. It is great to see that I'm not alone in the process, and that Ivys aren't the end-all-be-all :^).
+Mya Worrell I can totally relate to how you feel (: It really is a very stressful situation and I'm glad this video could make you feel a little less alone in the decision. Thank you for commenting and sharing.
Thanks for your all videos Angie! :)
The Ivy League was the most affordable option I had after the decisions were released haha. I am an international student and I am going to Cornell for my MBA this fall. The finance curriculum is great there, the fellowship I received was tempting, the community is friendly, I believe it is a great fit for me and thank god I didn't choose to go there only because of the Ivy League brand, it was the best option.
+Fayrouz Hares Congratulations!
You are so incredibly on point about YOU being the magic in the equation. I've been struggling choosing an ivy over UCLA but what the heck? They are great schools and the impact that you make wherever you go, will be the most important. Thank you for being so real
Ok this is weird. I too got accepted to MIT this year and decided not to go, because I only got a Pell Grant for about 5k. I decided to go to a local state college, Cal Poly Pomona, since its close by, still good for my engineering major, and much much MUCH less financially demanding. Anyways, I respect your decision, as well as mine, since MIT is pretty much only one label to put on resumes. Instead its best to put experiences, like internships and qualified skills, which go much further than just one line, on a resume for a job. Awesome video, and I really respect your views on college.
+Purple Rayquaza You should have gone to Harvey Mudd
Purple Rayquaza ay dude that's a very gooood school. Hope your doing great
I got into Pitt recently for engineering and your story is really motivational. Thank you!
Thanks for the video! I am a high school senior, and I will be attending the University of Chicago next year. I chose UChicago mainly because of the rigorous academics they offer, the Core Curriculum, and their commitment to free discourse and intellectual diversity. I also fell in love with the campus! :)
Congratulations on your achievement! And good luck in the future.
One of the benefits that comes out of getting in but rejecting a top
school is making another kid very happy by giving the acceptance to
someone else who was probably more desperate to go. :)
FAX
This is very strange to me. I am going to an Ivy League college, though for not because of their reputation.
I live in Central New York I have decided to go to Cornell University instead of a SUNY because the state schools that accepted me were located farther away and gave me less financial aid. With financial aid, Cornell's tuition was comparable to that of a state school, and Cornell's lodging was far cheaper (can you believe housing at a state school is almost double the tuition cost?!).
+Andre Lee Yes! As I mentioned in the Description box, for a small subset of people, going to an Ivy League may even be cheaper than not. However, for the majority of people, this is not true.
+AngieInTheValley for Harvard, Yale, and Princeton, money is not an issue. The endowments and alumni donations that those universities receive generally cover anyone's financial needs. Harvard I know for sure makes sure money is never as issue.
Thanks for making this video. I have been torn between Columbia and my Maryland, and this video really put me at ease.
+Michael Noe Thanks for saying so (:
I went through a very similar experience! I was accepted to CMU's school of computer science when I was in high school, and it was my dream school all through high school. But I ended up going to Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology on a full ride. I was so worried that I'd be missing out on so many opportunities by not choosing CMU. But I made opportunities for myself throughout Rose and now I'm about to start out my software engineering career at Airbnb (I am also graduating in 3 years!)
Totally goes to show that the name of your school doesn't dictate your destiny, and if you're truly interested in what you're studying that you'll end up making opportunities for yourself no matter what college you go to!
+Melissa Thai Yeahh 3 yearsies!
Thank you for this video - it was very comforting. I recently applied to Cambridge university and was made an offer, but will be rejecting it out of financial concerns for a full ride scholarship to UofT instead. This video gives me hope :)
You're awesome. Thank you for this much needed message
Thank you +Fana Meles!
AMAAAAAZING VIDEO! Great advice!
That was the same case for me when choosing Lawrence Tech Univ vs UofM College of Architecture and College of Engineering. All the College Rankings for Architecture and College Prep guide stats pointed towards UofM as a highly ranked school. However I got a lot of scholarships for Lawrence Tech and turned out to be a very hands on school and linked directly to working professionals. I was offered very little if any by UofM, and found out later by a UofM Architecture Grad that college professors were very hands off and you were left to your own devices to meet their curriculum expectations. While LTU groomed you a little and then pushed you in a direction to see how you would thrive. I was surrounded by many creative people and did very little if any book work, but spent many many hours on my coursework because of my personal investment in the projects. In the end I was glad of my years at LTU and the creative endeavors it fostered, as opposed to the non practical curriculum and the hands off professors in UofM, that would have left me an impotent professional with renowned degree.
+Girish Sardey (roninotakuknight) Thanks for sharing your story
This is such a great video. I agree 100% with everything you said. I got rejected by almost all universities I applied for. And through all of that I realized that my self-worth could never come from name on my resumé. I realized that if my self-worth would come from outside, if I needed the validation of others in order to feel special and worthy, I would never be happy. I wouldn’t have believed this a few months ago, considering all the tears I shed following my rejections, but all these struggles have led me to grow personally. So thank you universities for rejecting me. You actually helped me with becoming a better person.
You are so right! Thank you so much for this video. I am in the midst of applying to universities now.
You are awesome! SO HELPFUL!
Thank you for posting this video! Because my guidance counselor keeps trying to keep me in classes I struggle in because she says "well Ivy League colleges are looking for...(blah blah blah whatever class)" And if I'm struggling in a class it doesn't make sense for her to keep me in a class I'm barely passing....You gave me more positivity in thinking on why I don't have to go to some big name school. I feel relieved and less stress that I'm not the only one that doesn't stress about Ivy League Schools and more on comfort and financial needs? I guess lol. You really helped me become more happier with my decisions to go to like a community or state college instead of Ivy League but i was never thinking of going to one. Just other people want me to that aren't even related to me at all.
"You are the magic in the equation"... Very well said. Our family just got through the specialized high schools exam in NYC and I imagine we'll be faced with this scenario 4 years from now. This video is definitely saved in my 'parenting toolbox' so I can help guide my kids when they get to that next stage. Thank you!
As a parent I also think this is a well thought out video that can help many teens who have these type of decisions. I see the value of both. I have an Ivy League degree and a state school degree and they both have value and have a role to play. I would agree that at the end of the day it is up to the individual.
Thankyou so much for this. I really needed this lesson.
love the message, thanks for sharing
You deserve way more subs! :) Thanks for the video
Thanks
This helped me so much ! I got into Cambridge but it's just too expensive so instead I'm going to trust myself and go to IIT instead ( the best univ in my country )
Beautiful message! It makes me take things less stressful :))
As a high school senior, this is the greatest video of all time. Thank you. I needed this.
This is an amazing video! Thank you so much!!
Hi Angie! Thanks this video made me feel better. Now I know I don't have to go to the University of Chicago to win a Fulbright scholarship! I'm glad things worked out for you
Thanks you so much, I really needed to hear this
+Gerardo Rivera So glad to hear that!
If financial reasons are not a factor in your decision and you are trying to decide because of location or something else, I would highly recommend going to an elite university. I've seen friends who went to great schools like UC Davis and UC Santa Barbara have unbelievable trouble finding internships because of the name of their school. Top companies simply don't recruit as heavily from lower ranked colleges and it will be more difficult to be considered. A top university will enhance your abilities and give you the unlimited resources you need to do whatever you want. Yes, not every CS major at Stanford will end up getting into Google or whatever dream job they have, but a very large number of them will be interviewed and have the opportunity to work there. Ultimately it's up to you and your skills where you end up, but your school will help you tremendously. As someone who knew the financial burden it would put on my parents to go to Stanford rather than a cheaper but good school like UCB, I'd still do it. You can't buy the ridiculously accomplished friends and people you meet or the incredible professors you interact with after graduating. If you're capable, you can get to a lot of places, but there's a lot more to your education than the first job you land out of college.
thank you so much! you gave some really good advice! i find myself in your situation currently.
The best quote that sums up this whole video..
"You are the magic in the equation, not the prestigious university."
pretty sure networking opportunities are definitely better at top tier colleges compared to for example Oregon state. I don't think facebook, ibm actively look for interns at Oregon state.
This is really good advice, thank you.
I went to Utah State University, because it had one of the top 5 programs in the nation for specialty that I wanted to go into and they were willing to let me get involved in cutting edge research as a freshman. It is a decision that I have never regretted and I was able to graduate from college debt free.
+Shannon Babb Wow that's really inspiring! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for sharing. This is an amazing video!
You've got yourself a like and a subcriber! Keep up with making great videos like this!
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Thank you for the video! I plan on majoring in computer science and my decision is between the University of Wisconsin-Madison, Marquette University and a smaller private school I feel wouldn't be known enough to work at a big company. I'm not sure how often you check your CZcams videos or comments but if you see this and reply it would mean a lot!
I would like to think what you said is true, because I'm going through the college admissions process very soon. I have a 90 gpa (3.7 I think) and a 26 ACT Score (I just retook it, thinking I may have gotten my score up to a 28 or 29). However, I am almost certain that an ivy league school is OUT OF REACH for me. Sometimes I get upset at myself thinking "what if I worked that little bit harder?". But I'm happy to see that there are people like you out there
Alex❤
Hi, Angie! I really enjoyed your video. It's especially relevant to me now, as I'm getting ready to send in my first few applications this November. I'm taking what you said into consideration! By the way, I have Mr. Forslund for Honors Philosophy right now, and he recommended your video to me and my class :)
What's important is that the school fits you, and you fit the school. :) So many good points in this video! I go to an Ivy League university (so I guess it's sort of ironic that I do agree with you? lol) but I still think the whole 'brand' of the Ivy Leagues is too hyped up. success is not based on the name of the university you went to but you, yourself!
+Cindy K. Chen You tell em!
I definitely agree with the video but I just want to say that you still went to a pretty prestigious research university. I am from Los Angeles and I have definitely heard of Michigan State since I was a kid. This advice may be a stretch if the person gets a full ride from an unknown school (ex. random less selective liberal arts college) on a national level. I have a LinkedIn account and I can honestly say that schools with some kind of big name do help. But it's definitely a case-by-case basis like you said...I didn't even look at my admissions results besides two colleges! I am on a full ride at SJSU and I don't regret it at all
this is such an awesome video.i can completely relate this to myself.i enjoyed watching this video a lot. i instsntly liked the video and subscribed to your channel
I'm in a similar situation. I got accepted into UChicago and I have come to realize that the price tag may bar me from going. Decision day is March 9th and the rest of my schools' decisions come out after that. I think I may have to go to my in-state school instead because of how small the cost would be in comparison to other schools that I applied to. My dream school might just never be a reality and I'm trying to cope with that.
That's an amazing video. It is true that what you do in your campus is more important not the name of the campus you wish to belong or believe it will change your life when you study there
This is so worth watching!
I completely relate to this. As a matsci student, my top choice was UIUC because it had one of the 5 best programs in the country, but they hardly offered me any financial aid. I ended up choosing UTK and have been able to do exactly what I would've wanted to do in Champaign.
i cant believe how much this video made me think. im a junior and i looking around to see what colleges i want to go to. but theres certain top school i want to go to just bc they are top school and i now realize its not just about that
I would only go to an IVY league if they paid for everything or extremely reduced tuition. Or if I were part of a dynastic family as it's the only point it's any good: Ivy League is just a place for brat millionaire and billionaire families send their kids, and take on genius people as token to use as an excuse to later say why even their even more student body population of poor performing billionaire and millionaire students got top jobs.
Basically, if you're not super rich and well connected already or a prodigy in a particular field and you're getting a full ride scholarship, you shouldn't bother, it would likely be a waste. Unless you feel like trying to sycophant your way to connections which isn't always possible if they find out your not rich nor are you some interesting genius pet; that you're a middle class boring person instead with sucker written on your forehead.
You work for google!? I've wanted to work there for the longest time, I just never actually thought of doing it.
Hey I go to the Air Force academy and I am writing a paper on why going to an elite school is not worth it, and would love to here more about your experience and how this subject ties in with military academies. Thank you!!
Thank you so much for this
very thoughtful video. Hope many students would benefit from this.
Thank you. I think this is such an important video. I'm a senior in high school and I'm apart of the 'nerd' group so I'm surrounded by a bunch of people who are going to really great schools. CalTech, Cornell, Wellesley, ect. Despite the fact that I've taken multiple APs, a lot more than a lot of my friends and because of that, am going to be a sophomore when I enter college, I still never felt good enough. I'm going to a Community College first to save money and for someone who feels the need to be validated by the name of a school, I've felt really horrible about that. But the fact is that it's the smartest option and I think I need to realize that the name of the school you go to is not that important. Johns Hopkins has always been my dream school but I'm starting to realize that if I don't get in that that's okay and if I do, that doesn't mean I have to go. Thanks for this!
Let me say, I was accepted to Boston University, my dream school. But I got no financial aid, and I am attending a local community college...
The classes are a joke, the students are burnouts, I feel no sense of satisfaction or joy, even if I am saving money. There are no study-abroad programs, no connections with intellectuals or elites that you would get at a real school. Honestly, I will regret not going to my dream school after working so hard through high school. At least you don't need to go to a real school to learn to tie a noose.
+James Russell I'm sorry your experience with community college hasn't been stellar. :/ That's one of the things I'm worried about is that the education will be sub-par. I'm going to Onondaga Community College though, which is a SUNY school and is apart of that system and is recognized as a good set of schools. There are honors classes there, there is a honors club and I think there might even be a study abroad program. I know people a girl who went there and transferred to Cornell (Cornell has a transfer agreement with OCC so all her credits transfered) and I know another person who is going to SUNY Upstate now after two years at OCC. So I guess it all depends on the community college. I'm honestly really sorry to hear you're at a bad one. I hope you can transfer somewhere else because you deserve a good education, especially someone smart enough to get into BU
Teen Idle It is too late for me. I feel my life has been altered so drastically, and I have grown so depressed that I'm not even sure what to think any more. I bet most CCs are better than mine, but I'm only saying that I was on a path to what I thought was something, now I am the architype of the person who you'd expect to drink themselves numb, and I don't even drink yet.
+James Russell Going to a bad school is not the end of your life. You're young and you can still transfer. I'm sorry this college experience has been so much of a pain and made you feel so bad, but your life isn't over because of this. You can still transfer, if not to BU, than to a better school than your CC that will give you financial aid
+Teen Idle I was accepted into Wellelsey College but there can be some drawbacks. My parents expect me to major in a STEM field since they're paying for my tuition- maybe when I enter Wellesley, I'll end up loving it. But judging on my effort now, I've also struggled in the sciences and there's no drive in me to pursue it. To be honest, I want to pursue international relations and economics, but my parents find those majors to be "useless" (even though most STEM majors actually don't go into STEM....) But honestly, I firmly believe that if you work really hard for something, you can get a job you desire, despite where you go. There's probably connections in your city and there will probably be serious students in your class who want to succeed as well but can't afford the sky-high tuitions of these liberal arts/Ivy colleges.
This was so helpful to my self esteem haha, thank u so much
You're a very smart and mature girl to have figured this out at such a young age. Thanks for the video.
i like the effect at 2:02. did you do that in imovie? also how did you do that? one more thing, what is your advice on getting noticed on CZcams? You've only been making videos for 2 months and you already get thousands of views!
+atribecalled solitude I did it in After Effects but I think there's a lot of programs you can do it in. As to the rest, I have to thank my CZcams family for sharing and helping me grow
+AngieInTheValley thank you!
AMAZING VID!!!! HELPED ME A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!
To those who have attended or are attending Ivy League and earn less than 65k: Is your tuition fully covered by your grant or do you have to apply for loan?
I’m really hesitant to apply to top colleges in the future because my dad has college debt from Berkeley and it sort of caused this anxiety to even consider top notch institutions.
This is definitely situational and in this video seems purely based on the cost. My state school (University of Washington) will cost the same to attende as Dartmouth. Why should I go to UDUB when Dartmouth is the same cost? Great video, but it only seemed to focus on the financial side of the situation, which varies from student to student.
I've been wanting to attend Cornell all high school but over the last months I've decided to instead go to UTSA, I will save so much money and the school is pretty good for engineering, which is what I will major in, also, I'll most likely stay at home
I think it is slightly misleading about the financial aid that she talked about in this video. Ivies and other elite universities actually generally give lots of financial aid to their students. Often times they will meet all "demonstrated need" which is still going to be a burden to the family, but most will not pay anything close to full or even half tuition. They are able to do this when most colleges can't because of the ridiculously large endowments that they have. Some schools have billions of dollars, a lot of which is used for financial aid.
I need to decide between UIUC and Duke for my MS. Can you please share your thoughts on this?
The cost at Duke is $40k more than UIUC.
Such a genuine angel.
This was super helpful
I wish I had seen a video like this a while ago because I got accepted into Yale, but at the same time had a full scholarship to UCLA. I ended up choosing Yale (loved it by the way), but I don't think it would have mattered if I chose either one.