Regarding the comments about how nobody could have seen Lin's talent, I hate to bust out the racism thing, but there it is. Nobody expects a guy that looks like Lin to be any good at basketball. I remember in high school I had a tennis coach, and he consistently refused to give me a chance to start. He'd promise me I'd get to play and then he'd sit me. Finally in my senior year he decides to play a few rallies with me. After the 2nd winner I hit on him he looked really surprised. I always remember what he said to me, "I guess I never gave you a fair shot, huh?" Well, it was nice to hear him tell the truth, but it kind of sucks to be judged for some reason other than my actual athletic talent. So when people talk about racism, I know it's a real thing. I realize the Jeremy Lin story is years old now, but I have to chuckle when I hear people asking, "How could the talent scouts have overlooked this guy?" The truth of its, nobody WANTED to give him a shot. See, there's a subtle jealousy towards Asian Americans in this country, like they're studious and smart and maybe there's a fear they might "take over." Like maybe if we were ALSO athletic then what wouldn't we be good at? The thing is racism takes all sorts of forms. Ever wonder why the Latino community doesn't have the same complaints as the Black community, even though they are faced with many of the same social economic challenges? Sometimes the slavery issue comes up, but I have some news: the Emancipation Proclamation was in 1863. No American citizen alive today remembers being a slave. I realize that the social / economic effects of slavery have been far-reaching, but does anyone ever think about the other kinds of racism in this country? I remember at my high school there was a black girl, she scored 1280 on her SATs, and she got into every single college she applied to. I scored a 1520 on my SATs, and I got wait-listed at Harvard. Somebody please explain to me why that brand of racial discrimination seems to be accepted by everyone as OK? I remember how some of the other kids in school treated me. It was exactly that: racial discrimination. It was all pulling up the corners of eyes and ching - chong whatever. (By the way, I speak 3 languages pretty well. Don't be too proud just because you can only speak English, buddy.) I didn't make a stink about it, I didn't whine about it like the black community likes to whine all day about it. Equal opportunity? Maybe, maybe not. I know my parents were first-generation immigrants and we were dirt poor growing up. I grew up in a crappy town near the docks, all blue collar workers and the stink of petro chemicals was 24/7. I had a freight train literally running through my back yard. No really, it ran through my back yard. I don't want to hear about equal opportunity, OK? In college, I actually had a guy from the south spit on me. He literally spit on my face for no reason other than to amuse himself. I had just met this guy, mind you, so he had no reason to hate me. His roommate, whom I considered a friend, was also from the south. Was he outraged? Was he upset? Nope. He started laughing like it was funny. Did I run crying to the school administration? Did I make a huge stink about it? No. Because I know the secret in life is that life is unfair to EVERYONE, and if you don't know this yet, when you grow up someday you will understand it. The minute you stop blaming anyone else and take life into your own hands is when you'll start being successful. That's why Lin's story is inspiring: despite the obvious racism against him he was able to demonstrate his ability when his number was called. Then there are blacks folks out there who have the AUDACITY to say, "hey, if a black guy did what Lin did there wouldn't be a big stink about it." (I realize they're just jelly, it's aite.) What they DON'T understand is that Lin overcame MUCH HIGHER hurdles than they could ever understand. Racism is REAL, and it's not just directed against black folks. In basketball in particular, it's an ADVANTAGE to be black. Guess what it's like if you're Chinese-American (yes I know he's from Taiwan) like Lin? Back on track, yeah. I can't see scouts giving Lin a fair shake. Neither white folks nor black folks have ever been very friendly towards the Chinese in this country, I can tell you that from first-hand experience. Of course, there are fine shining examples of humanity in every race, and I have met and befriended people of all races. I'm just explaining why Lin likely didn't get a fair shake at first in the NBA. Scouts should realize: there are other important skills for a point guard besides running fast and jumping high.
Jeremy Lin is fucking good dude, and hes only going to get better . His career high 10 years from now could higher than Kobe's . he reached 38 points in his rookie year going against the best team in the NBA players like Paul Gasol , Kobe Bryant and he was very consistent with his high points. 10 years from now , hes going to be like the Asian Kobe , maybe even better , there certainly always is that possibility.
Spike definitely pays attention to all things Knicks. During that Linsanity span, it truly was difficult to put into words what we were witnessing. We now know that Lin is human, so now he will have the target on his back when he steps on the court. It will be fun to watch.
Spike Lee says it how it is. He brings in race and ethnicity because that is a HUGE role in why JLIN was so sensational. Just like when America saw the first African-American professional athlete who dominated. Jeremy is that guy for us Asian-Americans. Yao Ming was the first Asian, but he wasn’t American.
Wow good for you Spike! I'd never thought there'd exist a Black dude who isn't a Racist, but just a dude that saw a talented Lin and call it as it is. Too bad he's no longer there though. But you can still make a movie about Lin.
I remember when I was in the Navy we were in Haifa, Israel and it was seven of us sailors. We were of African, Italian, Latino (Puerto Rican and Mexican), and Japanese American decent. This one particular vendor was trying to sell us some bullcrap for much more then it was worth and this Israeli America woman stopped the guy and said very proudly is Hebrew "These are my people, they are Americans and your not ripping them off. I'll never forget that day. It made me feel very proud.
J.Lin Is one of the Best Point Guard in the NBA ! Enough with his nationality,,,He's a and will be a Allstar in the NBA soon and enuff with the other gossip/hype shit !
@haveaboat Not sure if you have listened closely to Jeremy when interviewed the last few years, but he has openly PROCLAIMED his identity that best describes who he is....Everything about him points in one direction-----Upwards!
Yeah but he is going to win the fan vote and be an All-Star. Even if he puts up 15-6 that will be enough to warrant his contract. The marketing with Lin speaks for itself...Knicks should NOT have let hi m go. PERIOD.
@Nyro888 Not sure what you mean by politically and legally. The Republic of Taiwan is recognized as a country, needless to say. It is no longer generally recognized as the rightful government of continental China, which is to say that the PRC is recognized, too.
@Allaluca Actually, you're not getting my point. I'm discussing Lin's identity, not his parents. They're both Taiwanese because they're both Taiwanese nationals. Lin's American born and raised, therefore he is not Taiwanese. By saying he's Chinese, I'm automatically referring to his cultural ethenicity, so there shouldn't be any confusion. (cont.)
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@Nyro888 lol you really don't get my point...of course they could be be called English Americans, and that's why Jeremy is Taiwanese American since his parents are both from Taiwan, and they've said in public that they're Taiwanese. And that's why you should change by saying 'Chinese ancestry' or 'Chinese descendent', and not Chinese; because he is Taiwanese American.
One China policy: I think this stems from ROC's insistence on not recognizing the PRC. If they submit application to the U.N. as Taiwan they would go through and take a seat -- and a desk, too.
When a guy is success story everybody says he is one of us, when a guy has committed a crime or did something bad all of the sudden he ain't one of us more like one of them people and should go back where he came from.
Actors are only about 5% of any production. I'm talking about "FILMMAKERS=CREW" not actors with major roles. The hundred or so people Spike hires for any project. Electricians, writers, editors, cameramen, sound, associate producers....etc. The BULK of people working on a production. The 95% of people working in the industry either on set, or "above the line". Spike has always had the most integrated productions in the industry. I've been on 6 sets and keep in touch with past crew mates.
@Allaluca (cont.) From a political pov, although I acknowledge what you've stated, you cannot say UN recognition doesn't define a country. Also no, you haven't countered my argument, because places like Northern Ireland mets your criteria of being country, but would you say it is independent from the UK? As for pressure exerted by CCP, well back then Taiwan did the same, when CCP didn't have the same influence as it did today.
@ShanghaiTigerlily Just because Pennsylvania isn't independent doesn't mean Taiwan has to be part of China. It's different. And by the way...you can introduce a player the way you want, like Taiwan doesn't even care how you introduce Yi or Yao. WE DON'T GIVE A DAMN.
Quoted from Merriam Webster: Definition of AFRICAN-AMERICAN : an American of African and especially of black African descent. Put it simply, Michael Jordan was born in Brooklyn, born and bred American but he's called an African American BECAUSE He's American of African descent. African is an ethnicity and a continent. Maybe you're right and the encyclopedias/dictionaries are wrong.
@mwoldin who recognises the ROC as a country today? Not many countries deal directly with Taiwan. Nearly all countries including US recognise the One China policy. But then again what does politics have to do with Lin and basketball?
@Allaluca The english part, I've already answered in a previous post. It seems you're very good at copying and pasting what you've written without being able to construct a counter response. Taiwan is not a country because it's not recognised by the UN. So until it does, Taiwan's identity will always be a unresolved political issue. For a long time Taiwan tried to get into UN, as the legitimate rep. of all of China under the title ROC.
@Nyro888 Taiwan is an independent country with its own government, legislation, and PRESIDENT...Jeremy is actually Taiwanese American, since he's parents are both from Taiwan, and has been in Taiwan for over 8 generations.. You should change your phrase from Chinese to 'Chinese descendent', then I'll agree with you. But then do you hear people say Americans are actually English? I mean how far do you wanna track back? Why don't you just say all people are originally from Africa? Got my point?
Jeremy Lin said himself " I am proud of being chinese. I am proud that my parents coming from Taiwan " . So jeremy Lin is Chinese . GREAT! I GOT THE POINT!
@mwoldin Haven't they been trying that every single year after the ROC was recognised, except for last year? Actually no, I don't think it will go through, because there'd be more opposition. But you've still not answered how raising the 'Taiwanese' flag, when this issue of independence is not resolved, is not stirring up politics.
@ShanghaiTigerlily All your argument is based on the presumption that China has Taiwan as one of its regional governments. Taiwan has its own people, territory and effective government that has strength to interact with other members of international community. Taiwan even has its own presidential election that, no matter what its outcome would have been, is going exert tangible influence across the Taiwan strait. Taiwan is a independent country no doubt.
@Allaluca (continue) If an American has English ancestry, why can't that American be called an English American? Also America has a diverse population. How many Americans really have English ancestry anyway? Unlike Lin, who actually has Chinese ancestry. Btw, Americans and English people are so interwined, they're practically the same. Don't believe me, just ask them.
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@Nyro888 "Not many countries deal directly with Taiwan"? So they deal 'indirectly' with Taiwan? Through who may I ask?...Taiwan is an independent country with its own government and legislation, it's a FACT!!
@Nyro888 Counter response?Haha I've stated facts that defines Taiwan as an independent country, you either get it or you don't, it's that simple. Yes you could call it unresolved political issue, and it is also why recognition from the UN doesn't define whether Taiwan is a country or not, there are much more facts that support Taiwan as being an independent country. Besides, Taiwan is not part of the UN only due to the pressure China exerts on other members of the UN.
@mwoldin fair enough. But with Obama, racially anyway, it seems that many people perceive him as the first 'black' American president, even his mother is white. Also a lot of African Americans like to claim him as one of their own, but you don't see many white people do the same. Same thing can be said about Taiwanese and Lin, judging from youtube anyway.
Well said spike lee, I'm white and I think that ppl from china should just accept he is Taiwanese. If he did suck would the Chinese claim him to be their own? Think about thay
@gotbowen I didn't say he is a Taiwanese. Even a little kid will know there's difference between Taiwanese and Taiwanese American. From someone's comment here, you are stirring up politics.
@Nyro888 does waving flag offend you? Aren't we Taiwanese fans supposed to wave our flag for a NBA recognized player whose parents came from Taiwan? Politics? See those comments about Taiwan that seems will and never exist in the world map? That's politics.
@ShanghaiTigerlily (continue)...So your 'point' is like saying American are actually English. Then why don't we chase back and say that all people are originally from Africa? Get my point pumpkin?
@ShanghaiTigerlily NBA is not a charity thing, it's business and we fans know it. Don't talk like you represent NBA and try to remind us something on the other hand.
@nubonyx, We really are one race and that is the human race. If we put as much energy into helping one another then hating one another just imagine how much more we can accomplish....together. We let those whose main purpose is to rule us divide us and use us for their own personal gain. What is it going to take for us to stop being sheep? We have minds and many of us are critical thinkers so why do we continue to fall for the same nonsense?
I've never understood this whole new York is the Mecca of basketball thing. The Knicks have been irrelevant for decades. Boston is the Mecca of basketball
1dislike .. where is it ? it's like a ninja..u can't even see 1 dislike..hahaha, anyway Lin is AMERICAN okay.. who gives a damn if he's taiwanese,chinese.. he's is ASIAN AMERICAN,is there any russian,poland,dutch,swedish american ? is there any ghana,kenyan,nigerian american ?
@Nyro888 Only because I lacked the space to say, I have no idea. Ignorant on the subject. But thing can be clearly seen: He is phenomenon, like Obama. There is something spookily brilliant about the whole story, like myth. Naturally, many people will react to it in various ways. The Knicks, without a title in 40 years, are like America in '08: looking to the One. Can He be the One? Add to that the most powerful narrative in American life, the cinderella story, and you have linsanity.
@AppleiPhone5s Can you as a white person explain why Lin's Taiwanese? Just because his parents are from Taiwan? When mainlanders say he's Chinese, we're claiming him based on his ethenicity, not his nationality, which is clearly American. On what basis is Taiwan nationalists claiming him? Also you should know that many Chinese basketball association and ethusiasts were already interested in Lin, even before he was recognised. There are plenty of youtube videos that shows this.
Lin's parents came from Taiwan, not mainland China. It's not the problem of which side wants to claim his origin, it's China who wants to take adavantage of this young man as symbol for their own country. I'm not saying that Chinese aren't supposed to feel happy for him, but I really hate Chinese fans always wants to deny Lin's relationships with Taiwan and get this involved in some kind of political issues. Lin is gonna be a great player, and we Taiwanese feel that you are playing for us.
Think how many guys never get a chance like Jeremy Lin did? Probably hundreds dont get drafted that could contribute in NBA every year! End up in Europe and never make it back !"
@ShanghaiTigerlily So what's your point? That Taiwan is a state of China and not a country on its own? LOL~ FYI, Taiwan is an independent country with its own government, president, and legislation. No other country dictates what happens in Taiwan, but its government and its people, and that's a FACT!!...And about Jeremy's ancestry, his father's side has been in Taiwan for 8 generations, and the father has said in public that they are Taiwanese.
You are wrong. African - ethnicity American - nationality hence African American. Likewise, Chinese American means his nationality is american but he's of chinese descent, get your facts right if you wanna sound intellectual.
tbh? They're entitled to eat whatever the fuck they want. If they want to eat gorrilla? Cool. Cat? If they want. My point is that nobody eats raw meat because humans have evolved knowing 'oh, if we cook food, we're less likely to die from it.' Just because it's not traditional doesn't mean it's somehow horrific. Grow up. I've had camel meat and found it quite tasty. IDK, man. I come from a mostly black family and not one is on welfare. Then again, this is Britain.
Regarding the comments about how nobody could have seen Lin's talent, I hate to bust out the racism thing, but there it is. Nobody expects a guy that looks like Lin to be any good at basketball. I remember in high school I had a tennis coach, and he consistently refused to give me a chance to start. He'd promise me I'd get to play and then he'd sit me. Finally in my senior year he decides to play a few rallies with me. After the 2nd winner I hit on him he looked really surprised. I always remember what he said to me, "I guess I never gave you a fair shot, huh?"
Well, it was nice to hear him tell the truth, but it kind of sucks to be judged for some reason other than my actual athletic talent. So when people talk about racism, I know it's a real thing. I realize the Jeremy Lin story is years old now, but I have to chuckle when I hear people asking, "How could the talent scouts have overlooked this guy?" The truth of its, nobody WANTED to give him a shot. See, there's a subtle jealousy towards Asian Americans in this country, like they're studious and smart and maybe there's a fear they might "take over." Like maybe if we were ALSO athletic then what wouldn't we be good at?
The thing is racism takes all sorts of forms. Ever wonder why the Latino community doesn't have the same complaints as the Black community, even though they are faced with many of the same social economic challenges?
Sometimes the slavery issue comes up, but I have some news: the Emancipation Proclamation was in 1863. No American citizen alive today remembers being a slave. I realize that the social / economic effects of slavery have been far-reaching, but does anyone ever think about the other kinds of racism in this country? I remember at my high school there was a black girl, she scored 1280 on her SATs, and she got into every single college she applied to. I scored a 1520 on my SATs, and I got wait-listed at Harvard. Somebody please explain to me why that brand of racial discrimination seems to be accepted by everyone as OK?
I remember how some of the other kids in school treated me. It was exactly that: racial discrimination. It was all pulling up the corners of eyes and ching - chong whatever. (By the way, I speak 3 languages pretty well. Don't be too proud just because you can only speak English, buddy.) I didn't make a stink about it, I didn't whine about it like the black community likes to whine all day about it. Equal opportunity? Maybe, maybe not. I know my parents were first-generation immigrants and we were dirt poor growing up. I grew up in a crappy town near the docks, all blue collar workers and the stink of petro chemicals was 24/7. I had a freight train literally running through my back yard. No really, it ran through my back yard. I don't want to hear about equal opportunity, OK?
In college, I actually had a guy from the south spit on me. He literally spit on my face for no reason other than to amuse himself. I had just met this guy, mind you, so he had no reason to hate me. His roommate, whom I considered a friend, was also from the south. Was he outraged? Was he upset? Nope. He started laughing like it was funny. Did I run crying to the school administration? Did I make a huge stink about it? No. Because I know the secret in life is that life is unfair to EVERYONE, and if you don't know this yet, when you grow up someday you will understand it. The minute you stop blaming anyone else and take life into your own hands is when you'll start being successful. That's why Lin's story is inspiring: despite the obvious racism against him he was able to demonstrate his ability when his number was called. Then there are blacks folks out there who have the AUDACITY to say, "hey, if a black guy did what Lin did there wouldn't be a big stink about it." (I realize they're just jelly, it's aite.) What they DON'T understand is that Lin overcame MUCH HIGHER hurdles than they could ever understand. Racism is REAL, and it's not just directed against black folks. In basketball in particular, it's an ADVANTAGE to be black. Guess what it's like if you're Chinese-American (yes I know he's from Taiwan) like Lin?
Back on track, yeah. I can't see scouts giving Lin a fair shake. Neither white folks nor black folks have ever been very friendly towards the Chinese in this country, I can tell you that from first-hand experience. Of course, there are fine shining examples of humanity in every race, and I have met and befriended people of all races. I'm just explaining why Lin likely didn't get a fair shake at first in the NBA. Scouts should realize: there are other important skills for a point guard besides running fast and jumping high.
What a well-written comment and I am surprised no replies to your post.
I❤️U your comments! SO so TRUE💯👍🙌
Damn this is the best comment I have seen.
My manz our here writing an essay
Absolutely on point and well written
It seems so many of them forget that before Linsanity exploded into the scene, the Knicks' first 23 games looked like this... 8 Wins 15 LOSSES...
Really nice to see how real Spike keeps it. He's a true Knicks fan, and always a pleasure to hear him speak.
Jeremy Lin is fucking good dude, and hes only going to get better . His career high 10 years from now could higher than Kobe's . he reached 38 points in his rookie year going against the best team in the NBA players like Paul Gasol , Kobe Bryant and he was very consistent with his high points. 10 years from now , hes going to be like the Asian Kobe , maybe even better , there certainly always is that possibility.
I have to agree, Poor Spike indeed and he looked so happy there
Spike definitely pays attention to all things Knicks. During that Linsanity span, it truly was difficult to put into words what we were witnessing. We now know that Lin is human, so now he will have the target on his back when he steps on the court. It will be fun to watch.
Huge Spike Lee fan Love his Movies I can't wait to see Oldboy This Coming October in 2013!
Spike Lee says it how it is. He brings in race and ethnicity because that is a HUGE role in why JLIN was so sensational. Just like when America saw the first African-American professional athlete who dominated. Jeremy is that guy for us Asian-Americans. Yao Ming was the first Asian, but he wasn’t American.
it's adorable watching this grown man in his fanboy glee.
Wow good for you Spike! I'd never thought there'd exist a Black dude who isn't a Racist, but just a dude that saw a talented Lin and call it as it is. Too bad he's no longer there though. But you can still make a movie about Lin.
I remember when I was in the Navy we were in Haifa, Israel and it was seven of us sailors. We were of African, Italian, Latino (Puerto Rican and Mexican), and Japanese American decent. This one particular vendor was trying to sell us some bullcrap for much more then it was worth and this Israeli America woman stopped the guy and said very proudly is Hebrew "These are my people, they are Americans and your not ripping them off. I'll never forget that day. It made me feel very proud.
J.Lin Is one of the Best Point Guard in the NBA ! Enough with his nationality,,,He's a and will be a Allstar in the NBA soon and enuff with the other gossip/hype shit !
No he's not. I love him as a player but he's not
Boy were u wrong
I wish I can go to every Knicks games for a while year like Mr. Lee does.
Even Spike Lee can appreciate greatness in Lin
Spike Lee is like die hard status. Aside from sports, waiting for his next film though
WE NEED MORE MOVIES SPIKE!!!!
So true.. Knicks fans have short memories
@haveaboat Not sure if you have listened closely to Jeremy when interviewed the last few years, but he has openly PROCLAIMED his identity that best describes who he is....Everything about him points in one direction-----Upwards!
Yeah but he is going to win the fan vote and be an All-Star. Even if he puts up 15-6 that will be enough to warrant his contract. The marketing with Lin speaks for itself...Knicks should NOT have let hi m go. PERIOD.
Go Spike Lee, Jeremy Lin's superfan. You'll get his autograph on your shirt and it might worth millions someday.
Spike lee is Stoned!!!
Lin all the way
@Nyro888 Not sure what you mean by politically and legally. The Republic of Taiwan is recognized as a country, needless to say. It is no longer generally recognized as the rightful government of continental China, which is to say that the PRC is recognized, too.
Spike is cool!
@Allaluca Actually, you're not getting my point. I'm discussing Lin's identity, not his parents. They're both Taiwanese because they're both Taiwanese nationals. Lin's American born and raised, therefore he is not Taiwanese. By saying he's Chinese, I'm automatically referring to his cultural ethenicity, so there shouldn't be any confusion. (cont.)
Lin FEVER
Spike is a heat fan
fzxtT He's Been a Knicks Fan All His Life And He'll Never Jump On The Bandwagon To Be a Fan Of The Nets And I Know He's From Brooklyn But He's Still a Knicks Fan At Heart!
@Nyro888 lol you really don't get my point...of course they could be be called English Americans, and that's why Jeremy is Taiwanese American since his parents are both from Taiwan, and they've said in public that they're Taiwanese. And that's why you should change by saying 'Chinese ancestry' or 'Chinese descendent', and not Chinese; because he is Taiwanese American.
this looks like this interview was takin 10 years ago...
One China policy: I think this stems from ROC's insistence on not recognizing the PRC. If they submit application to the U.N. as Taiwan they would go through and take a seat -- and a desk, too.
When a guy is success story everybody says he is one of us, when a guy has committed a crime or did something bad all of the sudden he ain't one of us more like one of them people and should go back where he came from.
I love lin but there are alot more teams above 500 out west, there are some real bad ass teams there
17 lin, 17 ohtani, who's next
LINGEND IN NEW YORK!
Jeremy Lin was born in Iceland but his dad is from Germany and his mom is from Uganda
hahaha whenever i see spike lee.. the first person i think about is Scottie Pippen.. just sayin lolz
@ShanghaiTigerlily Well said
Actors are only about 5% of any production. I'm talking about "FILMMAKERS=CREW" not actors with major roles. The hundred or so people Spike hires for any project. Electricians, writers, editors, cameramen, sound, associate producers....etc. The BULK of people working on a production. The 95% of people working in the industry either on set, or "above the line".
Spike has always had the most integrated productions in the industry.
I've been on 6 sets and keep in touch with past crew mates.
(As a sidenote, could you please try using commas and put spaces after your fullstops? Proper grammar and punctuation is rather essential.)
Mayweather should listen to this on why Lin was hyped by the media... and not because he's an asian...
you just got owned
@Allaluca (cont.) From a political pov, although I acknowledge what you've stated, you cannot say UN recognition doesn't define a country. Also no, you haven't countered my argument, because places like Northern Ireland mets your criteria of being country, but would you say it is independent from the UK? As for pressure exerted by CCP, well back then Taiwan did the same, when CCP didn't have the same influence as it did today.
Baron Davis is Spike's 2nd cousin?
Say whaaAaaat??
@ShanghaiTigerlily
Just because Pennsylvania isn't independent doesn't mean Taiwan has to be part of China. It's different. And by the way...you can introduce a player the way you want, like Taiwan doesn't even care how you introduce Yi or Yao. WE DON'T GIVE A DAMN.
Jeremy is new yorkan
Quoted from Merriam Webster:
Definition of AFRICAN-AMERICAN
: an American of African and especially of black African descent.
Put it simply, Michael Jordan was born in Brooklyn, born and bred American but he's called an African American BECAUSE He's American of African descent. African is an ethnicity and a continent.
Maybe you're right and the encyclopedias/dictionaries are wrong.
@mwoldin who recognises the ROC as a country today? Not many countries deal directly with Taiwan. Nearly all countries including US recognise the One China policy. But then again what does politics have to do with Lin and basketball?
*in nerd voice* the Earth is mostly blue due to 71% of it being water *snort and push up glasses*
Where were the Knicks before Lin? Well, get ready, because those days are forecasted in your future once again
@Allaluca The english part, I've already answered in a previous post. It seems you're very good at copying and pasting what you've written without being able to construct a counter response. Taiwan is not a country because it's not recognised by the UN. So until it does, Taiwan's identity will always be a unresolved political issue. For a long time Taiwan tried to get into UN, as the legitimate rep. of all of China under the title ROC.
i wanna here wat spike gotta say bout Jeremy now
2022
@Nyro888 Taiwan is an independent country with its own government, legislation, and PRESIDENT...Jeremy is actually Taiwanese American, since he's parents are both from Taiwan, and has been in Taiwan for over 8 generations.. You should change your phrase from Chinese to 'Chinese descendent', then I'll agree with you. But then do you hear people say Americans are actually English? I mean how far do you wanna track back? Why don't you just say all people are originally from Africa? Got my point?
Jeremy Lin said himself " I am proud of being chinese. I am proud that my parents coming from Taiwan " . So jeremy Lin is Chinese . GREAT! I GOT THE POINT!
Still Taiwanese
@mwoldin Haven't they been trying that every single year after the ROC was recognised, except for last year? Actually no, I don't think it will go through, because there'd be more opposition. But you've still not answered how raising the 'Taiwanese' flag, when this issue of independence is not resolved, is not stirring up politics.
What did Spike say that's upset people so?
@ShanghaiTigerlily
All your argument is based on the presumption that China has Taiwan as one of its regional governments. Taiwan has its own people, territory and effective government that has strength to interact with other members of international community. Taiwan even has its own presidential election that, no matter what its outcome would have been, is going exert tangible influence across the Taiwan strait. Taiwan is a independent country no doubt.
I wonder what he is thinking now that two of there key players are injury!!
@Allaluca (continue) If an American has English ancestry, why can't that American be called an English American? Also America has a diverse population. How many Americans really have English ancestry anyway? Unlike Lin, who actually has Chinese ancestry. Btw, Americans and English people are so interwined, they're practically the same. Don't believe me, just ask them.
All is quiet, on New Year's Day.
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They be claiming the taiwanese land as well Just waiting for the right time.
@chengitis you didn't miss much, it was over after 12 mins
Your comment seems to disprove your comment quite thoroughly. Ironic isn't it?
Spike Lee should make a movie of Lin, but it seems to be strange, coz Spike Lee never made an Azn American movie. Haha...
@Nyro888 "Not many countries deal directly with Taiwan"? So they deal 'indirectly' with Taiwan? Through who may I ask?...Taiwan is an independent country with its own government and legislation, it's a FACT!!
well i'm glad that you didn't said he is taiwanese or chinese. your theory is a cell --> fish --> caveman. So your ancestors are from a cell.
@Nyro888 Counter response?Haha I've stated facts that defines Taiwan as an independent country, you either get it or you don't, it's that simple. Yes you could call it unresolved political issue, and it is also why recognition from the UN doesn't define whether Taiwan is a country or not, there are much more facts that support Taiwan as being an independent country. Besides, Taiwan is not part of the UN only due to the pressure China exerts on other members of the UN.
@mwoldin fair enough. But with Obama, racially anyway, it seems that many people perceive him as the first 'black' American president, even his mother is white. Also a lot of African Americans like to claim him as one of their own, but you don't see many white people do the same. Same thing can be said about Taiwanese and Lin, judging from youtube anyway.
Well said spike lee, I'm white and I think that ppl from china should just accept he is Taiwanese. If he did suck would the Chinese claim him to be their own? Think about thay
Taiwanese-American all the time, sir.
@gotbowen
I didn't say he is a Taiwanese. Even a little kid will know there's difference between Taiwanese and Taiwanese American. From someone's comment here, you are stirring up politics.
Um he is ethnically Taiwanese, but his nationality is American
@betterdrugsthanyours no, spike lee isn't going to direct an oldboy american version is he? say it aint sooooo
@Nyro888
does waving flag offend you? Aren't we Taiwanese fans supposed to wave our flag for a NBA recognized player whose parents came from Taiwan? Politics? See those comments about Taiwan that seems will and never exist in the world map? That's politics.
hes overhype because of the media... but he gets paid minimum...
Jermaine dupri!!!
@ShanghaiTigerlily (continue)...So your 'point' is like saying American are actually English. Then why don't we chase back and say that all people are originally from Africa? Get my point pumpkin?
Exactly, Taiwanaese use exactly the same language, eat exactly the same food and look exactly the same. What is the point for differentiation?
@ShanghaiTigerlily
NBA is not a charity thing, it's business and we fans know it. Don't talk like you represent NBA and try to remind us something on the other hand.
jeremy lin just got hyped for that short time he isnt doing anything next year
@nubonyx, We really are one race and that is the human race. If we put as much energy into helping one another then hating one another just imagine how much more we can accomplish....together. We let those whose main purpose is to rule us divide us and use us for their own personal gain. What is it going to take for us to stop being sheep? We have minds and many of us are critical thinkers so why do we continue to fall for the same nonsense?
Damn fool, calm down....I'm pretty sure he was just kidding seeing as how he was making fun of the Taiwanese accent by saying "Amewican"
I've never understood this whole new York is the Mecca of basketball thing. The Knicks have been irrelevant for decades. Boston is the Mecca of basketball
1dislike .. where is it ? it's like a ninja..u can't even see 1 dislike..hahaha, anyway Lin is AMERICAN okay.. who gives a damn if he's taiwanese,chinese.. he's is ASIAN AMERICAN,is there any russian,poland,dutch,swedish american ? is there any ghana,kenyan,nigerian american ?
@Nyro888 Only because I lacked the space to say, I have no idea. Ignorant on the subject.
But thing can be clearly seen: He is phenomenon, like Obama. There is something spookily brilliant about the whole story, like myth. Naturally, many people will react to it in various ways. The Knicks, without a title in 40 years, are like America in '08: looking to the One. Can He be the One? Add to that the most powerful narrative in American life, the cinderella story, and you have linsanity.
@AppleiPhone5s Can you as a white person explain why Lin's Taiwanese? Just because his parents are from Taiwan? When mainlanders say he's Chinese, we're claiming him based on his ethenicity, not his nationality, which is clearly American. On what basis is Taiwan nationalists claiming him? Also you should know that many Chinese basketball association and ethusiasts were already interested in Lin, even before he was recognised. There are plenty of youtube videos that shows this.
E. r.o.y. ......
@Emiko415
Taiwanese are not Chinese. get the facts right!! would you
Lin's parents came from Taiwan, not mainland China. It's not the problem of which side wants to claim his origin, it's China who wants to take adavantage of this young man as symbol for their own country. I'm not saying that Chinese aren't supposed to feel happy for him, but I really hate Chinese fans always wants to deny Lin's relationships with Taiwan and get this involved in some kind of political issues. Lin is gonna be a great player, and we Taiwanese feel that you are playing for us.
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As usual the comments have nothing to do with the video. WHAT SCREW DO YOU PEOPLE HAVE LOOSE? WHAT ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
Think how many guys never get a chance like Jeremy Lin did? Probably hundreds dont get drafted that could contribute in NBA every year! End up in Europe and never make it back !"
hes not taiwanese or chinese, hes asian...
@FrickenAznBoy ur mind isnt fully developed yet.
@haveaboat Like u know more heritage of Jeremy Lin. Hes Taiwanese look it up . Have some knowlege man
@ShanghaiTigerlily So what's your point? That Taiwan is a state of China and not a country on its own? LOL~ FYI, Taiwan is an independent country with its own government, president, and legislation. No other country dictates what happens in Taiwan, but its government and its people, and that's a FACT!!...And about Jeremy's ancestry, his father's side has been in Taiwan for 8 generations, and the father has said in public that they are Taiwanese.
u could not have been more wrong. LOL
@carylin23 U mad fob?
um no do you watch the nba..
You are wrong.
African - ethnicity
American - nationality
hence African American. Likewise, Chinese American means his nationality is american but he's of chinese descent, get your facts right if you wanna sound intellectual.
tbh? They're entitled to eat whatever the fuck they want. If they want to eat gorrilla? Cool. Cat? If they want. My point is that nobody eats raw meat because humans have evolved knowing 'oh, if we cook food, we're less likely to die from it.' Just because it's not traditional doesn't mean it's somehow horrific. Grow up. I've had camel meat and found it quite tasty.
IDK, man. I come from a mostly black family and not one is on welfare. Then again, this is Britain.