How To Turn Your E Mountain Bike Into A Smartbike | EMTB Connectivity Explained
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- There are two very different mindsets when it comes to displays on EMTBS. On one side - the more minimal, clean cockpit, on the other - the data and display approach. In this video, with the help of Bosch, we'll be taking a deep dive into what it takes to turn your E Bike into a fully connected Smartbike.
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The Nyon is fabio on my 2020 Moterra, suggest those that have one turn around the bracket fixing so it slopes towards you , almost flush with stem edge, the fixing plate switch the right way and you have just saved yourself from 80 percent less potential screen damage. Your welcome. As my first Nyon21 cracked from a slow knock, a protective case is also essential, i found new new one on ebay low cost max protection. Hope this saves you money and makes more Nyon 21 available in 2021.
You should do a video comparing all of the smart offerings - Bosch, Shimano, Specialized etc
Got my Nyon 21 imported from the states in 3 days for less cost , the main dealer had allot on ebay. Then sourced a fitting kit and remote here in the UK 9 months ago, now its invaluable esp with the custom power modes, and the lock feature.
Got mine from the States as well and had it fitted last week. Much better than the Intuvia it replaced, for me anyway.
Would like to see what integrations it supports - Srava, RwGPS, Trailforks, etc
Strava and Komoot.
@@BDX55 Thanks. Shame there's no Trailforks integration. But cool nonetheless
@@TorrentUK You can import GPX files into the Nyon so you could export from Trailforks and import into Nyon. A bit of a faff but doable.
I really like my specialized, no display at all . Very stealth , only a few lights on the top tube is all you need
I agree. I just bought the computer that is available and really the only thing additional is a heart rate monitor which I haven't been able to connect to. Also it doesn't automatically turn on when you start riding
As for displays it depends on how you are riding? For example if routing a new destination and you don't know the way you'll need some form of navigation. If you are jumping or MTB riding in an environment you already know you may not need a display. You may also want your health data, heart rate etc if you are trying to beat your times. There's lots of reasons for having a display but times when you don't.
The one issue I have with the Topographic Range on the map is that it is one way. Most likely you are going to ride to a location and then back to where you started. It doesn’t do that so effectively not much use for most rides. I suppose you could find a spot roughly half way to the edge of the area but surely it wouldn’t be that difficult for it to have a round trip option so it can indicate where you could get to and back for the battery charge and riding mode.
I’d love to see more info on the shimano options. Data is useful and also lets be honest fun. Though I prefer to have my smartphone connected and keep my cockpit minimal. Having options is always a good thing.
Hello Steve
You can rotate the support upside down to minimise the nyon exposure it's better... I use this one since around one year, you can put your own GPX inside and.... follow the track !!
My issue with this type of tech is that the pure fun and sense of freedom of being on a bike outdoors can become more about monitoring your health, heart rate, cadence etc. I have a purion display and a Garmin Edge 130 for navigation and that's perfect for me. If you want to monitor everything via tech just get a Peleton.
In terms of navigation this looks like a much better display than the newer Kiox 300!
If i feel like I'm not getting a good enough workout from my ebike then i turn it off on the climbs. When I'm throwing up at the top i know I've got the ultimate workout. You don't need tech for that!
As a topic EMTB could champion is the helmet standards required by the UK for class 3 ebikes. Unsurprisingly Holland has addressed the situation with sensible standards and laws.
Fantastic guys thanks for the footage
A13 minute advert for the Nyon, absolute pony
Would be nice IF could be connected to Garmin Connect in roder to get rider wattage/HR data, will it be possible?
So if I don't want a display at all, I can just buy another display and then remove it?🙃
bet you cant do a soft ware update tho
I'm considering upgrading from the basic Purion. I believe there are two options for mounting the Nyon 202, Steve why did you go for the 'out front' rather than the 'over the headset'? It looks vulnerable the way you have it.
Good Bosch commercial.
Without ant+ it's not smart enough
Had the original Nyon for about 4 years now.
It's not bad for most thing, but it's truly horrible for navigation, for the first couple of years it was a worthless feature, and the feature I got it for! :(
Thankfully Bosch had done a tie in with Kamoot, so grab an account and plan you're roots with that.
I should expand on that. The on screen display works great. It's the root planning that is really bad. Need to ride along a dual carriageway or even just cross over one? Nope, riding a dual is "unsafe" (quote from Bosch.) So is (was?, not sure) not supported by the app.
From my last home, I was on a one way road with a roundabout at the end, connecting to a dual. The Bosch navigation system would not plan a route from my home. I had to ride through the roundabout, stop and then start the navigation for it to work. And then ONLY if the place I was going didn't require me to cross another dual.
I would like to see how that device handles a crash. Can be knocked off and lost?
It would be much better if we could just use our smartphones as ebike computer. You can easily buy a cheap rugged (IP68) phone for about 100 euro! But this is Bosch. They like to ripoff their customers like Apple behind "walled garden".
Think i will stick with my Purion,being an ex squaddie things need to be bullit proof,this aint gonna survive any tumble.
Making something "smart" is synonymous with letting it tracks and spies every aspect of your life.
hi, Can you help? I have recently suffered a stroke which has left my left side weak, and whilst I can ride a bike it is quite restricted on range, my question is would a emb help?
yes I think it would but I would keep an eye on the weight of the bike. they can be quite a bit heaver, my ebike is twice the weight of my trail bike
@@MCNIBBLE Thanks for your reply, I currently use a mountain bike mainly on roads with the appropriate tyres because I like the ride position. I used to be quite active riding 100 miles or so . so far since my stroke I can manage about 3 miles befor left leg gives out.
I got the Nyon but the mount bracket is terrible for EMTB, 1 OTB crash and snapped the mounting hook. $30 down the drain for new mount bracket.
Also only takes 30 mins to install so dont see the point taking in shop for installation.
Don't they have to enable a port on the motor for it to be detected? I think I read that somewhere.
@@TorrentUK nope, same port as purion, just plug and play for my bike
So cool!
is this for bosch bikes only
You from Gloucester?
I hope that thing picks up Netflix so I can chill on my next ride?!
wonderful I see my cube ebike
Nyon's Navigation is actually quite dangerous to use in the US. It guides you over regular roads and ignores bike or shared roads. Here in NYC it even routes me over a ferry to get to Manhattan from Brooklyn!? I have reported these results to Bosch and it has gone acknowledged but unchanged for months. IF YOU NEED NAV DO NOT USE NYON!
Not sure how safe those large screens are on mountain bikes, also another company gathering data on you, and doing who knows what with it.
Would really like to see the Yamaha offerings?
there is the display c which has komoot integration!
@@SimonBauer7 I know I have it I'd like to see such a video on it.
I just want to go out on my bike and get away from the modern world
I prefer the smartphonehub 😜
Why do I need to go to the dealer for this!? this is clearly a thing that anyone with a toolset can do. This is the kind of thing that keeps me away form buying a EMTB. The fact that I'm not allowed to service my bike!
It's okay, but the features are doesn't contain any "WOW"....range calculation for example is available since 7 years ago... :)
I’d love a nyon display but they’re out of stock everywhere.
If you need navigation, reconsider, Nyon nav is the worst thing ever here in the US and is quite dangerous
@@Steveborough what's wrong with it? Most of what I've seen indicate it's pretty good
@@russellbaker7098 check my other comment here, it does not route over bike lanes or shared roads, it's main job, ha. There are 3 bridges, all with bike lanes connecting Brooklyn, NY to Manhattan and it routes me to a ferry! Even worse, if you import a route from another app, it forces you to all checkpoints. Say if you have a route to get to work and you are a few feet or even a mile ahead from where it thinks you should start, it will route you backwards to the start before proceeding forward. It is the worst thing ever, I used to have the smaller Kiox display that could at least charge my phone while mounted to my bars, now with such a huge screen on the Nyon and no USB out/charge, I cannot use my phone for nav without my sleak bike looking like a convention of gadgets on the handlebars! I hope Bosch fixes the navigation soon but with their newly released Smart system I'm guessing Nyon, even though it's just a year old, will not get the attention/updates it desperately needs anytime soon.
@@russellbaker7098 it’s ok in the UK. You can choose from 3 routes when planning: Fast, Scenic and MTB. It keeps off roads as much as possible, especially the latter two. It does pick some strange routes sometimes though, such as across fields! I prefer to plan on Komoot and send the route to the Nyon.
@@Steveborough interesting. Thanks for your comments Steven.
Complex displays are really not necessary. I much prefer the Giant stealth approach. Already use Polar Vantage II and Garmin 1030 for fitness and navigation, professional companies with decades of experience in fitness & mapping gadgets.
Way to big, stick's to much from the handlebars, it's a mountain bike so at some point it will be crashed ( lighter or harder) and it will be the first thing to go.
It would be better for cruising wouldn't it, or just some scenic routes with less bumps
Turn the mount the other way round so it points backwards. There are Allen keys you loosen to turn the actual device is the right way round
I bought a crf250. Much smarter
Non-stop Bluetooth irradiation and mesh network tracking included!
It's cool and all... but NO.
do you use a smartphone? yes? welcome to the world of beeing tracked!
Hi, You can turn off the Bluetooth, all maps can be preload inside the nyon !