The Truth About "Gel" Tips
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- On today’s Biz Talk, Habib and Tracey address the very popular question regarding whether new YN Full Cover Tips are made of plastic or gel. They discuss the chemical composition of tips throughout the market and whether they can possibly be made of “gel” as defined by the nail industry.
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I literally thought these tips must be made in a machine that molds and cures them, because as you stated, that is what gel is. Pretty frustrating that these companies take the chemical composition and decide oh well it has similar chemical makeup, so it’s gel, cause as consumers, that’s not how we perceive it. And obviously they’re banking on that.
Thanks so much for the honest transparency. Just another reason I love your company, you’re not all about the money, you’re about the education, the knowledge of your customers, making sure we can be confident in the products we use and the process in which we use them. All the more reason why I’ve switched to use almost entirely young nails on my clients ❤️
Right! I mean, I had a feeling they weren’t doing all that. Intuition proven correct yet again. I was lowkey hoping I was wrong tho. Ugh of course they would, anything to make a bigger profit while using the same or cheaper materials 😩 man I really can’t stand shady marketing!
OMG I have missed your videos gurl I pray your doing well. And I'm glad they broke it down bc I finally bought "gel nails" just to compare to abs plastic ones. I was told Gel nails don't have to be roughed up on the underside before applying polygel. Haven't tried the theory yet to see if the tips just pop off like dual forms. I'm glad to know the chemical formula is basically the same and I'm not investing in a high end (gel brand tips) it's marketing schemes 🙄🙄🙄🙈
@@mandylynnswarts I’m doing good, just have been busy with nail school. I posted a New Years set and I should be posting more frequently soon cause I graduate in 2 weeks 😊 that was awesome to see a comment for me on their video tho 💖
Yes I watched it and I'm so happy congratulations to you and your journey. I couldn't start yet God called me to the hospital he said they need me right now. Hopefully covid dies so I can get my life back and can get my schooling done. Be safe out their love. I look forward to your next uploads🤗
@@mandylynnswarts that’s really awesome that you’re working in the hospital and helping with all of this. We definitely need more like you, y’all are hero’s fr. I’ll keep you in my thoughts. Stay safe love ❤️
Thank you so much for clarifying that these full cover nails are plastic . I knew this was the case all along . I commend you for your honesty !
I've been trying to explain this to fellow techs for the past year. I worked in product development for one of the world's top tip/full cover nail manufacturers for 15 years so I know the composition. Unfortunately too many refuse to believe science! Thanks for this! 🙏❤
Abs plastic vs gel plastic. That's how I always viewed it. Licensed nail techs did their best to tell me differently. I didn't budge. Some people will research while others will not.
Just think about recycling. You many be able to recycle a peanut butter jar (please clean the remaining pb in the jar prior to recycling), but you can't recycle plastic wrap. Still plastic, just different grades.
Thank you both for transparency and due diligence.😊😁😉😍
I did the research. It is all plastic but just like Saran Wrap and plastic containers are both plastic the durability is different.
ladyinmauve Thank You that's what I always thought, that they were just different grades or mixtures of different grades .
you hit the nail on the head!
That makes a lot of sense since you see the ‘bend’ test where someone will taco a tip and the (abs) plastic tip retains a white line after versus the ‘softgel’ tip springs back to shape with no visible damage.
Marketing has caused this confusing. But I love honest people like Young Nails. That's way y'all are my primary product choice.
Highly agreed. Busting all these myths and tricky terminology.
We are asking because these companies have marketed them as GEL. They claim that it’s much better than plastic. As a non professional nail enthusiast it’s really hard to find the real answer. Thank you for this video. I have spent months looking for answers.
I wondered about this so thanks for sharing! I got a brand of these "gel" tips recently and as far as I could tell they're just plastic full cover tips. I've bought cheap full cover tips from amazon and they're the same thing! I did wonder how these brands could produce an actual gel tip. So you guys have totally confirmed my suspicions 👌🏼. Really sneaky marketing for companies to state these are 100% gel because obviously any experienced nail tech would automatically assume that meant actual nail gel used to form nails enhancements.
Marketing... This is how so many companies choose to market their products. Bigger.Better.Faster. Harder. Right up there with the companies that say that their dip powder is organic and healthier than acrylic enhancement products.😂
Yessss omg 😂 I see that basically everywhere “organic and healthy to make your beautiful nail" and I’m just like 🤨 and then I’ll go looking at the reviews (especially with sites like amazon) bcuz I know with advertising like that + uninformed people with improper removal methods are going to take that and run with it. Under every single dip, acrylic, hard & soft gel listed on amazon there’s someone in the reviews giving a low rating and bad review about how the product destroyed their nails 🤦♀️ the funniest I’ve seen was on an acrylic + monomer starter set. This lady said "this product should be illegal! I can’t believe it’s allowed to be sold anywhere. The chemical vapors in this product burned my lungs, I’m X-ray tech so I know what I’m talking about! I have always had strong healthy nails, now they’re soft and weak after using this once and having them on for 1 week" in that moment I so badly wished that I could reply to reviews.
Hahaha that was really funny 🤣organic dip powder? 😂I don't believe I've had the pleasure of crossing paths with that one. That was really funny tho lol 👏🏼
@@krystalfukinmarie757 🤣🤣🤣🤣yall are cracking me up!!!!
@@katielunn6394 in all reality, everything we can see, feel, or consume is "organic" in a chemists perspective. It does not mean that it makes everything healthy by any sense of the word. It just means that it exists in a natural state.
@@kelleywood4498 yeah I know I just thought what you said you read was funny. I wasn't being ugly.
I first found YN watching a video on their Fibergel. I love your Fibergel!!! It just makes my nails perfect . I bought your fibergel kit with small uv light and tips and your large curing light. I do mine and my daughter's nails, and after watching all your video's, and much practice,
and lots of YN product purchases, my daughter is now a willing client 😂😂😂
She was my practice model along with myself and a fake hand. You have always been transparent and made quality products. Your training vids are excellent and I just think the world of your company. I was a buyer for Costco in 80's and 90's for Mens apparel and lawn and garden ( different times. What a mix right?!) I know when I am being given marketing bs and not facts.
Your honesty and transparency are refreshing and much needed in this industry.
As a newbie, I am glad I found YN and Im sticking with you!!
Plus you are all very entertaining! 😂😂😂
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Thank you so much!
Habib, you guys are creating so much customer loyalty and trust every time you create quality content like this!! This video was so freaking informative, thank you 👏👏👏
Bottom line...ALL ENHANCEMENTS ARE PLASTICS OF VARYING QUALITY!
I was asked "is this a gel tip" I than shook my head in the NO positions and said it's plastic. Maybe I should have said it's acrylic because after that answer it was 101 questions and I still only had one answer "it's plastic". I wanted to say OOOOK IT'S GELL but why be dishonest when you can just say the truth. Now I don't have to feel bad and I have some backup I can refer too. Thank you for the video💐
I think where a lot of the confusion comes from with this is with the GelX brand. They call it GelX because the tip is adhered to the nail using gel instead of the traditional glue/resin systems. People think the tips are “gel” , when it’s actually the mode of adhesive that is gel.
Omg don’t I feel 🐑, had me all confused because when I would file the “gel tips” to take off shine it would smell like plastic ones 🤔 that’s why I love you guys, did your research fully to share with us and speak the truth while others lie just to sell 😒😒
Exactly!!!
Same my soft gel full cover tips have a plastic feel and smell when filed
@@jomartin6209 but apres gel full cover didn’t smell like plastic 🥸
@@jomartin6209 the Gel ish soft gel full cover tips use Apres technology!
I started out with these tips so I had no idea what gel smells like. I assumed it’s what gel is like. Oof.
Well damn, you guys shook the table with this video. Thank you for providing a detailed description of what "gel" tips are. I appreciate you didn't want to be seen as bashing or singling out any brands. I think it is about acetone being able to soak off the tips.
Don't all plastic things melt in acetone? I thought that was the difference too but now I don't know
I dont want to use the word "all" because I dont know about every plastic on the planet. But 20 years ago, up to now, I have be able to dissolve, the tips used for nails, in acetone. These supposed Gel ones might dissolve faster, but ABS plastic dissolves too.
Personally, I love gel tips lol.
If you don't have skill or time to sculpt with gel, they are great because you cure them on and that's your full set. I still put hard gel or acrylic on top and build a proper apex and all that, but the foundational work is done in a fraction of the time. And I love that I can fill my gel tip sets, which I don't think you can do with regular full cover nails, even if you cure them on with gel.
Also, the gel tips definitely soak off easier than other mediums, which is helpful for keeping healthy nails under the enhancement.
I think dismissing the whole thing as marketing is reductive, honestly. Gel and acrylic and polygel are all plastic at the end of the day, but I think we all agree that they are not the same thing and there are fundamental pros and cons that make one a better fit than others for some people.
I do the same thing with my gel tips. Like you already mentioned I don't have the time or patience to sculpt my own sets but I can fill them in, especially knowing I have a decent foundation already established.
Yes. While I appreciate the honestly about "gel" tip marketing it does kinda serve them to dismiss it because companies that focus on gel tips and products are their competitors.
YN tips are still very competitively priced with many gel tip companies but in a MUCH smaller selection of shapes, styles, and colors.
Convenience is where gel tips definitely have the edge. Short to XXL, natural and sculpted, round to stiletto, etc.
Wish more companies did the individual size refills, and wish more companies had true short/active sizes.
A truly clear nail, in active sizes in "natural" and "sculpted" C curves, with the option of individual refills would be my holy grail.
I've recently started using gelish soft gel tips and they are amazing. I knew you could use gel polish or builder gel over the top but didnt realise you could do acrylic? Have you any pictures or tutorials of this 😀
There's definitely a difference between regular abs tips and gel tips. So claim its down to marketing is very reductive
Aquaria, you can most definitely fill other kinds of full cover tips. Which we have done for years, before there was ever a gel kind of tip.
I love how you guys are so honest ... I mean we have these scammers out there getting rich on there false claims letting there customers believe whatever you guys are great.
Reminds me of how some regular nail polishes call themselves "gel". That one really burns me up because it's intentionally misleading consumers, just like what you're talking about here. I always tell people "if it's in a clear glass bottle, it's not gel".
I feel like this should be a no brainer considering gel uses a lamp/uv to cure (I'm *super* new to learning via youtube lol) but I never would've noticed or realized that all of my gel products are in black bottles! thank you!
@@string.cheese I feel like a lot of people don't know. You're welcome!
I asked Sally hansen why they were calling a line of polish gel when it didn't need curing and they said it's thick like gel... 😂
@@HillbillyYEEHAA omg did they really? 🙄🤦♀️
"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet” -Shakespeare
Love how ya'll didn't call any companies out because we all know who they are. Ya'll did it so professional and just let us know about the nail tips. So professional I love Young Nails!
Of course they're plastic, that's what acrylic and gel is. There are different types of plastics with different strengths and weaknesses. I'd be interested in what different types of plastics the different companies use though. I know plenty of people just buy regular tips and use them exactly like gel tips with no problems though.
I have the kiara sky gelly tips and everytime i file them, they smell faintly of the plastic that you find in normal tips. It had me very confused, thank you for clearing this up!
I had the exact same experience!
So the Kiara Sky gelly tips are plastic and not gel?
@@chantelcaballero5594 I think they are a soak off gel, because they are definitely softer before UV curing. But, they are probably a mix of another kind of plastic too.
Yea those are on the lower end I actually consider those true plastic.
@@chantelcaballero5594 this video obviously just went over your head and it wasn't even that deep
This is what Lauren from Wildflowers Nails also says, it's all plastic. I appreciate the transparency.
I was a chemist before nail tech(long story short) and knew about this and I don’t like to use them on my regular clients. But my coworkers worship about these nail systems so I couldn’t say the truth until now because no one was saying the truth and I knew they would not listen to me serious and I didn’t want to bother what they “want” to believe.
As someone who’s just stayed quiet the longer majority of my life about things bcuz I didn’t want to argue with people about what they believe bcuz they’ve been lied to, I’m begging you please don’t stay quiet. Although I totally understand not wanting to cause an upset in the work environment.
Love to see this comment! I'm in the engineering field becoming a nail tech (long story short) :)
@@deder9391 Hi!! Welcome to the industry 😁 it’s been a while since I wrote this comment and man nail industry just took off!! :) Beauty industry is competitive but it’s always there. I truly think I made a right choice. I hope you become very successful too!! 🥰
@@gabiew.7860 Thank you so much!!! I think I'm making the right choice for myself and my growth as well. I'm so happy for you! Thank you so much for this encouragement truly!
And honestly, this is the beauty and the reason YoungNails is the best brand out there. You did not need to go out and find out that information for us, but you did. You have gone that extra step so many times for all of the techs and students who use your products the industry is full of shadows. Thank you guys so much for everything you do! My niece has started getting into doing her own nails and I have sent her in your direction as well (I'm in NC she is in ME) because I want her to know what the best is from the beginning and settle for nothing less.
All extensions are made of acrylates. But gel tips are designed to be installed with soft gel and soak off easier than a typical plastic tip that gets glued on. I’ve seen some people saying they have put the young nail tips on with gel, and that’s great if it works for them. I think the big attraction to gel tips is the ease of removal.
You have earned my respect 100%. I set out on this mission myself and realized what was going on was fleecing buyers out of their money. Yes, quality differs but they aren’t made of gel, rather for gel. Thanks for being honest.
Thank you for being so real! It is so messed up how companies are telling people that this is a gel tip and charging so much for them and it's not real. Times are hard and that's so wrong! I love Young Nails!!!
I'm so glad you brought this up. I was thinking that these "gel tips" had to be plastic. Because soft gel isn't hard.... no matter how many layers of base or color or top coat i put on, I can't make a stable extension with soft gel. I've tried before my trip to LA years back, Snr they snapped off (really they bent in half lol) the first day.
But hard gel is by definition hard, hard gel is not plastic. I'm thinking the tips that breakdown in acetone are made out of hard gel...
@@18ormorexox hard gel doesn't break down in acetone. It HAS to be filed off.
@@ilykfritos1 yes you're right! I'm trying to think here, I thought acetone could not desolve plastic and I just looked it up and it does. But it has to be plastic that has similar components to acetone...
If you've touched them, you know most soft gel tips are flexy. Of all the brands, Apres has the sturdiest feel, but I still don't recommend anyone cure them on and go, you have to add things to them to make them as resilient as a sculpted set.
Soft gel tips also lose integrity if you put them in rubbing alcohol, regular tips do not.
It's plastic yes. All this stuff is plastic lol. But it's not the same plastic as regular tips.
@@Aquaria2291 yeah I know they're flexible. All gel is flexible. So are plastic tips. Even hard gel in a layer as thin as tips can still bend quite a bit. But soft gel isn't just flexible, it straight up folds under the lightest pressure. Like Gumby 🌵😆. Doesn't even make the fun click clack sound on the table like the "soft gel" tips. Just a thud thud 😫. Anywho, I'm just saying it makes sense that "soft gel" tips don't have the same CHEMICAL properties as soft gel, because they don't even have the same PHYSICAL properties as soft gel.
Thanks so much for sharing! I use the "Gel" tips, it was my kick start for my business, the goal is hard gel sculpted extensions. The satisfaction of completing a nail set that you sculpted is just unexplainable. Its just taking me a while to get there 😆
Their target audience are the unqualified people that want “Nice Nails Now” and they want them without leaving the home. There is so much more in being a qualified Nail Tech than merely an ability to apply enhancements. ‘CZcams University’ won’t give you knowledge on underlying conditions, disease, chemistry etc.
I’m so thankful that YN have been transparent about these ‘gelly tips’ or “next level press-on’s”
I absolutely Love and recommend YN to everyone one. I use their products. I’m a nail technician and after seeing this video love them even more. Thanks ☺️.
Good to know. I've been duped into believing they were gel cured nails. I really don't know why they can't just say high quality instead of being misleading.
Some clients are even hellbent on arguing Techs down about things we hold a license to know. It floors me every time, especially the “dip isn’t acrylic” faction. These are probably the same people who get “powder gel nails.” 😏
YESSS!! So right!
😂 you’re not wrong! My goodness when I first kept hearing of this "powder gel" when I tell you the names I’ve been called for saying "no that’s acrylic" I don’t know weather to laugh or cry. One thing I do know is people don’t read ingredient labels on these products, otherwise they’d see they’re the same thing!
I wish I saw your comment before I put mine up.....lol! Sad but true a little research goes a long way. You'd think they'd know what they're paying for 🤦🏾♀️
@@aquarius8325 right 🤷🏻♀️ maybe it’s just me but I look at ingredient labels on EVERYTHING! Shampoo, condiments, skincare, soda, chapstick, cereal boxes, makeup, etc... I might be on the edge of obsession with it tho 🤔☠️
@@krystalfukinmarie757 sounds like you're an informed customer to me 🤷♀️
I just had this question. You have made this subject so clear.
I love that you break it down 10 different ways so there are no misunderstandings- gel tips=plastic
So they shouldnt be called gel tips they are just 'full cover tips' like young nails calls theirs? Why cant all companies just be transparent like these guys lol
thanks, guys for this its really appreciated it's been so insane to watch this all over the nail groups and even my followers. I am so happy someone finally addressed this.
Thank you for ALWAYS being so honest!!!
I thought this was true.
I will probably stick to sculpting.
I actually researched gel polish and it’s a version of plastic too. The basic chemical compound in acrylic is plastic. There are different variations of plastic but we categorize them by different names so people can determine the form and/or quality.
All types of nail polish are plastic. That is why some people keep their in a fridge so it will set (cool and solidify) quicker. It’s also the reason why trying to dry nails with a hairdryer is stupid because the warmth actually slows down the drying/setting process.
@@piperjaycie Yes! But you really don’t have time to explain that to customers.
I LOVE it that y'all did this video! I had really wondered about this (like,is there some machine that "cures" gel in full cover tip shapes? Or is it just...plastic)& i was hoping that somebody would clarify. Thank you Young Nails,u guys can always be depended depended on to be honest & transparent. I greatly appreciate that.👊
Oh how I hate marketing. The whole reason I started doing my own nails was because I was tired of being lied to at the nail salons. And now I'm being lied to by ppl tryna sell nail tips. I personally don't care what the chemical composition is...there's no need to lie..I WAS GONNA BUY IT ANYWAY. Thank you for being honest and telling the truth about the nail industry.
Thank you so much for this information. I think the marketing is like not honest. They make out like it is a different product and it is not. That is why I love you all. You are open and honest. That means so much to me. Thank you for being you. Love you all.
And so many youtubers i watch say "you need soft gel tips because gel (gel or polygel) cures to gel, whereas the plastic tips will end up popping off" which is semi harmful to spread because ppl will think they dont have to prep "soft gel" tips and not get the desired result.
I was watching something else got the notification and switched asap 😂🤣
🤣🤣 Me too
I love that your company does research & brings clarity to things like this because there's alot of "definitions". Reading the ingredients helps as well because the truth lies in there!!! Lol you guys are awesome!!!
Love YN for the no fuss style ! It’s so great to a big company such as YN not bamboozeling the consumer with marketing jargon ! X
What is more important to know than if they are plastic because several industry leaders even Lauren Wireman of Wildflowers Nails has openly stated that they are just plastic. We need to know how to distinguish the quality of the plastic tips instead of guessing and paying more and more money to get something we hate!
I am an enthusiast not a trained tech but it really cracks me up that folks can not understand that it is ALL plastic. Whether you dip a brush in a pot of gel and use a form to make an extension and cure it or you pick up a pre-made tip (half or full) and adhere it to your natural nail in the end you have plastic nails.
I use Aprés, and the difference to me is the breakdown ability with removing with acetone and a cotton ball. I can get Aprés off in 15 minutes, other brands don't soak off and I have to file them off and takes 30 minutes. The YN one i haven't tried to soak yet in acetone, so I think I need to do a test
Tips dissolve with acetone
I've used different brand tips and they all soak off with acetone plastic dissolves in acetone period
Valerie N. I agree I have used other brands that took forever to soak off, Apres does not take that long so they must use a DIFFERENT GRADE of plastic.
Because the chemical compound is different.
@@sarahmoss8361 this is true! That's the whole reason for the cotton soaked acetone wrapped in foil before gel became like really big, IMO. As a kid and teen, anytime I went to get my nails redone, that was always step one. And acetone dissolves the plastic itself FAST!!!
This biztalk comes right on time for me. Great info, thanks for always being on tune with the new stuff going arround👌🏻
Acrylic is a polymer, monomer is a polymer in liquid form and gel also contains polymer just in smaller particles therefore gel tips are plastic. Easy😁
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, then it's a duck...
Apres says they are gel but I have to buff the surface so gel polish sticks??? Doesn't make since to me because gel sticks to gel right??
I use Kiara sky short coffin nails as they have the best shape for short coffins. I don’t buff them and gel polish sticks fine. Never tried apres because so expensive! 😳😔
@@piperjaycie Yes they are very expensive but they did just lower prices to the pro prices across their site and I only order when they have a sale. Makes the price more doable
@@piperjaycie I've been looking for some short coffin nails. Will have to look into the kiara sky ones. Thanks for the tip!!
Search Aliexpress gel x nail tips. Much much cheaper. The coloured ones are there as well.
It’s like when customers be like do you do shellac? As if it’s not gel polish. Shellac is a brand not a special kind of gel
I agree that drives me crazy I am not even a Professional I do my own nails at home and I know the difference
Omg yessss I had this question and I wondered how that was even possible thank you!
Ok I feel like the only person here that finds this video completely useless and unnecessary. I’ve never heard this system advertised as tips made of gels or maybe like habib I don’t have time for an extensive research on different companies. But my common sense told me since the beginning after watching a 30s promotional video that it’s called gel tips because instead of glue you use soft gel to attach them to the natural nail, not because of what the tips are made of. 🤷🏼♀️
Thanks so much for clearing this up. I've been wondering about this too
Thank you for this video/chat as I've been so confused lately with press on tips (making some so don't have to use my non dominant hand so can paint/decorate before putting on). As some say gel-x, soft gel tips, full cover tip etc etc-so all these are just plastic tips? Also with applying on natural nail I'm getting confused as can use gel, glue, acrylic, stick ons etc etc sorry heads still going crazy do you recommend any of your informative videos please about press ons/full cover tips 🙏
To help clarify, yes, all tips are some form of plastic, even if they are labeled “gel tips” this is still a form of plastic. There are many ways to adhere tips, it simply depends on your goals for the nails. If you want a temporary set, the sticky tabs or glue are the easiest way to apply but may only keep them on for a day or a weekend. Using gel or acrylic is going to be a more permanent application. We recommend using Fiber Gel as it is thin and won’t add bulk but has flexibility & strength to hold the tip on for an extended period of time. Here’s a great video to show you this application. czcams.com/video/PUxXnCzjj2U/video.htmlsi=Sn7T5zTNXbTOEISl
Excellent information. I will keep using my cheap short coffins since they're the shape and length I prefer (without filing anything)
This was a year ago but it needs to be shared just as much, if not more, today!
In the UK the non standard salons were calling acrylic "gel" and charging £5 more a set. Scamming the girls for yeeeears. Only through CZcams did alot of ppl learn that this was a total scam.
Thank k you for making this clear. That these brands are being errr " intellectually dishonest" at best. Charging an insane markup and giving you a pretty box. It's so naughty of them. I will never buy Apres anything.
Let me go order some more YN
i learned decades ago that hard gel was not something u could soak off but soft gel u could. now im hearing u can soak them both off. i agree, different companies have different definitions than what WAS the industry standard yrs ago. it is very confusing sometimes.
I’m not a prof or tech, but my personal preference is hard gel extensions, just makes more sense 🤷🏻♀️ lol. My experience: I stopped going to a nail tech because they would not do the process of a base or foundation, and she would sculpt with just soft gel, no primer, and they would snap off. I was like: no it’s not worth it, she’s not doing it right. I do them myself, can’t wait to try your hard gel 👏🙌🏼
I do hear that term a lot on other peoples channels. I think that they are trying to market them to the DIY crowd who don't really know better. I know E nail Coutour and Apres' have the gel tips kits
And you do apply these kits with gel so that is why there is so much confusion i think. I know one of those companies at least was saying that the tips they have "bond" better with the gel base coat.
This is all just stuff i hear around insta and YT. i am not a pro yet but i so use the same method that those kits use and it DOES work with your basic plastic tips.
I am a professional and I actually believed Apres' claim that their Gel-X tips were made from a "patented soft gel" (this is the wording they use on their website). I purchased them when they first came out because my understanding was they would be easier to remove with acetone than a plastic tip and that they were better quality. I fell for it. I will never buy another Apres product again.
@@Daizee_day thank you for commenting! That is what i remember reading but i couldn't afford their prices since I'm not a professional, you have eased my mind to the fact i am not missing out and my nails come out super cute anyways 😆 see my profile pic/ done with full cover tips/ polygel / and some accents 💞
@@nicolecourtney8688 also Apres sells to the general public
@@candicewdowiak9254 that is what i said...they market to DIY ppl i am not a professional as stated above but still couldn't afford their prices.
That was my take on it. It's just plastic. Which they are sculpted which is nice but still plastic.
Young nails is an amazing company. You all have the best teaching. If I have questions as a DIY'r this is the place to get the best info and you also have amazing products (I finally ordered the protein bond) and im really excited. Anyhow thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I think part of the confusion is people look at the Apres Gel-X system. Their plastic tips can be adhered with soft gel rather than glue. And, the Gel-X tips, when adhered with their soft gel, can be soaked off with acetone similar to soaking off gel polish or acrylic (which lots of people confuse with gel as it is).
Yes and they advertise them that way and they are expensive as well. If it’s all plastic then I can spend 10 bucks on a box instead of 30 🤦🏾♀️
From my experience the difference between nails that are marketed as gel tips and nails that are just ABS plastic is that those gel tips are easier to soak off so the takedown process is a lot faster when compared to using ABS regular plastic tips.
I knew it! I tried some of those gel tips from another company and it smelled just like a plastic tip when I was removing it. Had a real petroleum smell to it.
I always said if I could feed people BS I would be rich. Marketing has ruined it cause they’ll say n do anything to convince a person to buy their product! Thank you for this video!
I'm waiting on my Apres package to arrive and I can tell you that I feel completely duped out of my money
It frustrates me that companies are allowed to call it soft gel, I think it’s so good of you guys to look into it and do a video on it.
People think they’re gel because companies are claiming they are.
I recently watched a few enail couture videos and he did a video on another nail techs CZcams page, and spoke for a while about how they’re different from normal plastic nails because they’re built from soft gel and how convenient it is as a replacement for doing your own sculpted extensions.
It was a CZcamsr whose opinions I value and in a bit disappointed that they sold it so hard on the 123GO range was gel and then going on like the “gel” tips are gods gift to nail techs!
Quite disappointed in susie and max as nail educators really
Thanks for highlighting this topic 😊💅
Good to know thanks for sending me this video because I was confused about the “gel tips” thing and was starting to think they were a thing which is why I asked in your previous video lol
YN is awesome...so honest and down to earth...u guys are great!!
I've been a nail tech for 40 years, while trying new items, I would "call" these full coverage tips for gel applications, gel tips, such as calling tips for acyric, acrylic tips....it was hard to watch Ya'll act so confused. I'm looking to try gel, and the tips, I wear square, don't believe you have them. Love your classes, I've learned alot, bought your acrylic, love it.
Pace your classes a little swifter, you are speaking to licensed professionals?
All good, love watching!
Ms Mgr, is a hoot, love watching her work!
That really explains Dipped in Pretty problem with the E Nail 123 go! full cover hard gel and how her nails would bend. In truth, the 'full cover gel nail' is just Plastic. Thank you so much for explaining it.
There's ABS Plastic tips which you have to etch the inside and scrub with primer and you can adhere it to your nails with polygel, actual hard gel, builder gel, etc., And even with all the prep work, the actual gel will/can separate from the ABS Plastic full cover tip. Whereas the "soft gel" tips are flexible, you can bend them every which way and they will maintain the integrity. They are also meant to be cured on with polygel, hard gel, Qikgel,builder gel, etc., then you can actually use your file or e-file around the cuticle area and underneath if you added too much and need to maintain the C curve. I really take everything you guys say as like the nail "Bible"; but, respectfully, I think I'm going to have to disagree on this one. I have both kinds of full cover tips: if you expose the ABS Plastic tips to your lamp, nothing happens; but several times while doing what Femi Beauty has deemed "the lazy girl method" ( in which you put the tips on a nail stand, apply base coat, add anything you'd like to encapsulate, then fill the well of the nail, in whatever design, color, marble,etc with polygel and apply to your prepped nail and cure for 60 seconds), and I had some just extra nails laying on my work space from where I was sizing, and they shrank (the nails not on my fingers that were exposed to the light accidentally). If you bend the ABS Plastic nails, they leave a white mark where they were bent; they don't change in the lamp, and you can't e-file the cuticle area. Also when you cure on the "soft gel" tips, you feel it like suction cup to your nail. You can also do the Aprés dupe method perfectly with these tips. I know that soft gel is like gel polish, and hard gel is like what Tracey prefers and does a bunch of her tutorials with, so I understand the difference between the two and what they are. I don't know why they're called soft gel tips, maybe they're gel coated? Idk, but as someone who has used both many many times, I'm just saying that there IS A DIFFERENCE; the gel that you apply to the soft gel tips like become as one and DO NOT SEPARATE, not even if you're trying to; you have to either cut down the length and soak them off with acetone or e-file them off, just like gel. Try it, and you'll understand what I'm saying. I really look up to you all, and like I said ordinarily your word IS SET IN STONE; it's just in this case I respectfully disagree along with thousands of others on CZcams. All I'm asking is that you take a closer look and try actually wearing, say, a hand of each for an extended period of time and you'll understand what I mean.💅🏼💖 I still love you guys to Freakin death, and I hope that I haven't come across as disrespectful.💖
no disrespect taken! however, you can apply our tips with soft gel as well, similar to other products. You just need to prep the inside of the tip same as others, that's why the gel sticks.
It unfortunate how some companies dupe their customers. From my experience with brands outside of yours there is only one company who has made tips from soft gel and it takes time to create the shapes they have. But there are others who claim to make gel tips but they are plastic will no real structure and even lie about where they manufacture their tips. More companies need to be more transparent about their products
You do realize that YN are also NOT made out of gel? I am not sure you are because you wrote in your comment "from your experience with brands outside of YN there's only one brand that makes gel tips". When they litteraly are the same "plastic" like every other brand. They are all built of acrylites, some are better than other and there are definitely some that are much better than YN.
@@wioi I am well aware of what YN tips are made out of and they are quite open about what their products are made out of. I stand by my comment as it was in regards to brands outside of YN meaning YN was excluded and I was not going to mention another brand on their video out of respect for YN
Let’s be honest here - Acrylic, hard gel, soft gel and soft gel tips are plastic essentially! They are all made up of monomers. You are Dragging down a product and twisting the words to diminish its quality.
The to validate your claim you pull the “we had our chemist do ACTUAL testing on them” he came back and said “they are plastic”
YES! Because all gel and acrylic is plastic
“In essence gel and acrylic ARE PLASTIC. That’s what nails turn into. A form of plastic” - YN
Soft gel in a pot and soft gel tips are made from POLYMER = PLASTIC.
Potted Gels are polymer networks constructed from either covalent or supramolecular bonds that are swollen in liquid media such as water or organic solvents. The network structure ensures that the liquid is held within the material. Soft gel extensions eradicates liquid media as they come as a hard tip.
Great video! For us nerds out here, can you ask your chemist to give us a simplified version of the composition of "gel" vs "plastic"?
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Can we pretty please have a flash sale soon with some sales on the full cover tips?! I’m kicking myself for not buying them on Black Friday!! Thank you guys for this video and clearing up misconceptions! 💕
I think the difference I've noticed between plastic tips and "gel" tips are that the "gel" one shrink when you cure them. The plastic ones we are used to don't shrink when you cure. I think that's why people want "gel" plastic nails over normal plastic nails
Why would shrinking be preferred? I’ve noticed it too tho
Are tips better for damaged nail than full cover ? Is it okay to cover a damaged nail with a coat of acrylic and then use dip powder
Depending on the severity of damage, it may be best to sculpt an enhancement rather than trying to glue on a tip. If the damage is severe, we would recommend leaving product off the nail until the damage has had time to grow out & the nail is healthy.
Massive fan guys & love that u addressed this issue concisely... But... I was waiting & waiting for either of u to mention the REASON they are marketed as gel tips & it's because they can be soaked off (IMO ofcourse!)... I feel this is the whole premise behind the 'gel full cover tips' revolution. I always thought they were just plastic, even when 2 different suppliers ASSURED me they were made of gel 😂🙄 They can be filled (even though they feel different when prepping) & as far a I can tell, they can all be soaked off... Thus 'they' call them gel tips. Am I making sense here? 😜🙏🏼
I knew it! Lol This is why I have and always will, TRUST YOUNG NAILS! 😊
I was so confused about what made gel tips different! I thought they must be made of soft gel that was molded and solidified somehow, but turns out it's just plastic that was maybe processed slightly differently - I do like the thickness of 'gel' tips compared to some of the regular ones I find in stores. Thanks for the information!
Yes thank you for being to honest with this video!!!!
Well this explains a lot.
Totally agree with you guys. I do make my own nail tips using base coat. Yes! BASE COAT! Sometimes I use builder gel too. I actually use your applicator gels to make my nails. I make them on top of dual forms. I apply it, cure it for a few coats and I have my tips. I use them as full cover nails and use the lazy girl method. I hope this makes sense
Do they have the sticky layer underneath the nail? That is the bit I wouldn’t like. Do you wipe it with isopropyl alcohol to get rid of sticky or no-wipe topcoat it? 😳😊
@@piperjaycie yes because it is base coat. I wanted to see if I could convert my nail tips into full covered nails and base coat is the best way
Ummm, now well confused as google defines gel tips as:- Gel nail extensions. They are made from the same gel that gel polish is made of, add length to your regular nails like a press-on, and are as strong and long-lasting as acrylics, but without the powder or the harsh chemicals.8 Jan 2018
I got some from a company I wont name that constantly says that they made theirs in a mold and that only their company had come up with a way to make gel tips that way and its being patented etc etc.. I knew either way they all are forms of plastic in varying degrees the "gel" ones were just more sculpted and adhered with gel whereas reg tips go on with glue. The gel ones actually seemed more fragile to me but I did like that u can fill them. I guess u can fill reg ones too but not if ur using them as a full cover. Either way plastic is plastic but I did feel the need to check them out as a new fad...lol. I just wonder what the whole patented mold to make these gel tips is all about and if it's even true?
Thank you so much. Very informative.
I actually thought someone started making tips out of gel. I mean it could be done, a candy factory make 100s of candies in molds, in mins. Some use a shape pressed into corn starch - so its not far fetched.
I have also never touched or used a " Gel Tip" so I do not know what their like. I held off, cause I wasn't sure yet.
I do not think it should be allowed to say or market what is not true. There is supposed to be truth in advertising and there are agency's for this. I was looking at Enail Couture today, they say made from gel, on their 123go tips. And made in the USA. Now if that is a lie, then they should be sued, or fined or something...
And you cannot pass that off as marketing! You cannot later say, well, we say that because you adhered them with gel.
They flat out have a picture, many pictures, showing style, size, length of tips, and each one has a hand written "Made with Gel" note on it.
To my understanding Apres does the same thing.
I'm sure many do...
I shouldn't have to stop every 5 min. to fact check everything a company says, who has that time. There needs to be accountability, and I thought there where things in place to prevent this sort of thing...
Okay, I'm mad and ranting, and it just shouldn't be allowed..
And, it should now be stopped.
And, I'm done... lol
A big huge thank you to All of you at Young Nails, the truth is important!!!
I think you should have named, names though, why can't we tell.
It's not professional??? B.S
Its not professional for those companies to lie and mislead techs and the consumers. If they cannot be professional and responsible, then they don't deserve your protection. A damm spade, should be called a spade - just saying!!!
Okay - now I'm done
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I use loads of different plastic ones from amazon and recently got some Kiara sky short coffins gelly tips. The only difference I have noticed is that the Kiara sky ones file down super quickly when compared to the plastic ones and using the same pressure. They seem softer but they are also thicker so the end result once the gel polish is on can look bulky. They also smell quite strong and the plastic ones I use don’t smell of anything. 🤔😏😳
Wow!!! I totally thought they were gel….thank you so much for this video! I was thinking though…..I wonder if when the soft gel tips first came out, they meant that they are tips to be used with soft gel, as opposed to the tips themselves being made of gel. Maybe most of the world misinterpreted the labels lol 😂 Anyway, I am nothing more than CZcams certified….meaning I’m not a nail tech. I just do mine at home. I really enjoy your channel and you are my “go to” for nail education and tutorials. Thank you so much!!! 😊 💅 ❤
Thank you !for the info I always thought they came up with a way to cure gel in molds to make the tips 🤔😒 thank you young nails
Thank you for the clarification
Is there a video on how to deal with grown out gel tips nails. How do you completely remove them? I’d like to see a video on dealing with them.
Here is a great video for you: czcams.com/video/rmYa7D-M6bY/video.html
So like apres "gel" full cover tips , how come they are so clear and and the quality is much better. So is it a different type of plastic than regular tips?
Yes, it's about quality. Some are just better plastic than others. Its about finding what you like most I think.
Better plastic is still plastic right? Why cant apres just say that lol instead of misleading people.
Yes, that’s what this video is about. Different plastic that makes it more durable than tips you can find at the drugstore that are flimsy.