Valeera 100-0 combo explained.
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2018
- This isn't much of a build guide, more a quick explanation of one of hotslogs higher win rate builds on how you're supposed to play it. Hit an isolated backliner and stealth before the enemy team knew what happened.
Put simply, Stealth, Isolated Q, Q, Q, W, E, With auto attacks during cooldowns. Then vanish after with the reduced cooldown. You can use Q whenever the enemies step away.
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So I neglected to mention the combo in the video so here it is:
Stealth and wait for it to give you the jump > Isolate them then Q > Q > Q > W > E > Q with auto attacks in between followed by a trait to get out after the burst. This will take out anyone who is slightly away from their team and the great part of tagging people away from their team is it is low risk. Don't do this build and try to walk through the enemy team to burst a backliner, use it to grab people who position poorly or people during rotations. Before you get the isolation it's best to use the silence instead when getting people.
Q > Q > Q > W - you are wasting 1 combo point :) cap is 3. also, W has a bit range, wouldnt it be better to save incase enemy is getting abit far and SS is on CD?
Yeah
A much better combo is Q Q W E Q, just because you evisc sooner. This makes your 3rd Q give you a combo point which can also E, and it also means you're not wasting any time waiting for your Q to come off of cd, increasing your DPS
was going to post this, ty, he's wasting time with 3 q's and its harder/more risky in general
the first q is the ambush guys...
Love your videos and learn a lot from them. You said you were going to do the combo and then explain the combo, but you never explain it. You explain the talents but not the order of the abilities used. It appears you are using Q-ambush in stealth, then two Q- sinister strikes, followed by W-blade furry and then E-eviscerate. And when that didn't finish off the healer you did one last Q-sinister strike.
Koyfish WoW you're correct, he doesn't explain it in the video but that's the combo he mentions down in the video description.
lol i was about to say the same thing, he never went through the combo.
This is not working in real scenarios, because the opponent will just walk away. I am a Valeera main, and I always go with the slow at lvl 1, that will guarantee that all your Q will hit.
Also if the target has a dash (which many many has...) they can create a gap very quickly so that your Q will be ineffective. So instead of Q I always open with Silence (+slow) and just Q-Q-Q-W-E. The silence does huge damage after lvl 20.
I think Crippling Poison is essential with Mutilate. You don't need Vigor to do the full Q build combo. And use W first after initiation to avoid missing the first Q.
I know this is 6 years later and perhaps we have grown as a community, but this is a sub-optimal combo for multiple reasons. Firstly you need a talent that enables you to get your combo off reliably. That means either slow talent at lvl 1 or speed talent at lvl 4. Assuming you go speed talent at 4 you can then take energy regen after opener at 1 instead of max energy quest, as the regen works perfectly for your burst windows anyway and you dont need to do a quest for 10 minutes. The rest of the build is the same. Taking speed at 4 also gives you 2 combo points on opener. This allows you to get 2 full combo point eviscerated off in 1 opener. You open with whatever is needed, into q e. Then you q w q e. There is short delay as you wait for your lvl 1 to do its thing. But it results in alot more dmg without resource waste. If you dont want to delay just dont do last q for 2 point eviscerated, which is still more damage than this video showcases. Hope this helps some valeera beginner who stumbles across this video. Like the vids though
To everyone asking the order of the abilities, this information is written in the video description, hope it helps:
"Put simply, Stealth, Isolated Q, Q, Q, W, E, With auto attacks during cooldowns. Then vanish after with the reduced cooldown. You can use Q whenever the enemies step away".
great video, love the content you're making.
Why not just Q > Q > W > E > Q? It gets out the biggest part of your burst a lot faster and lets you set up for another engage as you don't waste a combo point.
Awesome as always. :)
The combo is in the video description, it's Q, Q, Q, W, E with auto attacks between cooldowns.
Literally, the only thing he needed to say in the video.
dude i love your videos man. you are very clear on what to do. can we get an updated version of this?
I had no idea. Thank you
yes i was waiting for this
isnt q, q, q, w, e wasting a combo point?
yea pretty much ....
Ever since the stealth change, it is more effective to NOT stealth first to initiate. You just walk in, hit D to stealth, and THEN immediately Ambush or whatever you need to do while stealth.
agreed... however with stealth reset talent u need to go into deep shadows first. "dont nobody got time 4 that" XD
It will stop working since Platinum where ppl will play as a team use escapes and supports actually will use their skills to save teammates.
In QM you may pick Crippling Poison and same build and combo will be QQQQQ and they will not run away after using their escapes.
Also you don't need to do any quests.
MrDiscane it works well in gm aswell...
Again a nice tip! I actually lose a lot when there's a Valeera in team, or when I play it myself. Then I look on Tentonhammer, and it puts her in C tier. Is her viable anymore, is she worth the time to master her or just go another hero?
Thanks kindly
Keep it up :)
I don't know, maybe I am a bigger noob than I have judged, but without the slow at 1 ppl just walk away b stepping and u do shit.
What am I missing?
Valeera has many playstyles, depends on what u up against. This here he's showing is fucking garbage even in QM.
I'm sorry, at 2:59 your usually not gonna get ALL day to bust out that combo against a support if they have competent teammates. You're gonna get cc'd. pushed back, stunned yourself you name it.
Minor correction: Valeera can still use openers while revealed, you have to actually knock her out of stealth.
The invisible, teleporting at your very back to stun or silence and deal 3500 dmg while you can't do shit. Valeera, so ballanced.
...and then they use their escape instantly or get help. Gotta go with slows and silences, then q q e q w
Hey, I was wondering... could you maybe do a ktz combo video? I can never get it right.
Also, do you stream?
Ty
Maria chain some one throw the root in the middle chain the other person drop your q then ult when they are rooted.
Yeah , only one problem , no one is gonna stay still for 2 secconds so that u can do ur combo.
Thats where the not-taken slow comes in & he even missed an instant E for a real 0.1-0.5 sec burst that noone can react to. sigh.
Well valeera is already very good at 1v1 but with this build she is even weaker in a teamfight
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I would like to argue that Valeera gets more value out of silencing a key member of the enemy team or blinding them if it's an AA hero. I understand the value in the talent picks, but you will have a very weak lategame if you only focus on the solo laner or those that overextend.
Not a Valeera player - is this still (after so many patches) the build to use? Or do we need a new guide?
One thing i sure is Valeera needs " Crippling Poison " baseline not talent.
I remember the old Valeera… She could kill many heroes (not only ranged dps) during the stun effect. Good times and a lot of salt
I'm maining her this season with 60% wr in 100 games and my build is poison/q/q/CoS/2 or 3 based on main threat/q/situational. Being able to pull out 2 good eviscerates in under 3 sec is way too good. Combo is E-Q-E-Q-either E if that's enough or Q-E
Yay finally someone talking about valeera. The more valeera videos. The faster the devs can fix my favourite hero
LessThan3 Just remove stealth, it's beyond fixing. Heroes like Valeera or Nova dominate every single QM while being trash in HL in most cases. Devs already tried to adress that issue with little success...frankly, with none whatsoever.
In my opinion the stealth visuals wasnt a big problem before the rework. In Qm everyone that could see the shimmer would already point it out ,that there was a dangerous hero there and in HL the heroes werent even viable. My problem is when they destroyed stealth by making it so every stealth character wears a white coat over there skin. It made it so that valeera's stealth would be to easily countered and making her almost useless. Because her stealth is not a ''passive'' like zeratul and nova. Also her stealth is on a 8 second cooldown and zera + nova is on 3 sec. So when making a hero completely based around her stealth abilities and making her vanish on a longer cooldown then the other stealth heroes. You completely kill that hero if you change the stealth mechanics. Which makes it super frustrating to play as valeera.
LessThan3 I could not agree more. I personally love Valeera. She is by far my most played hero at level 28 (I'm only character level 290) and my highest win rate. The feeling you get when you get revealed before a team fight by a stupid hanzo scatter arrow or something hurts so bad. It makes you essentially useless for the next 8 seconds.
exactly!! losing the essentials of any hero is devastating. i mean how would garrosh be if he could only throw a target up. he would lose almost all his viability.
what do you mean?
where do you get the custom map to practice these combos?
select a hero in the shop (collection) and there's a button there that says "practice" :)
ah thanks man! I've been looking through custom games for it for weeks now.
That's great and all but we're talking level 16. So it's definitely a scaling build. If your team isn't holding its own during early or mid game you're going to be pretty useless until then. If your team doesn't at least keep up in level you're going to be hard pressed to preform. Plus with the amount of people with reveals now, and the stealth rework, on top of her not having any good mobility options for disengaging, she's been a pretty losy pick.
Best case scenario you get a pick and end up dying or at the very best get a kill and then get to step out
i do d q/w/e (depending on the situation) q w e aa q aa and it takes solid amounts of dmg
Why do you do your W before your E ?
Errzoin E is a guaranteed hit. Also it's easier to follow up your Q with W since you already dashed to your target. I might be wrong, I don't play Valeera very often.
Q Q Q E W would be better or even QWQE. Doing W after getting three Q's in would kinda be a waste seeing that your only allowed three combo points. It's not adding much more damage like a full set of combo points would. Full three point eviscerate>one Q or one W. That's why you should prob use the combo points before doing Q or W and save either of the two for the next set of three points for more dps but usually by then, they're either dead or gone.
triggered vanilla wow ptsd
This is a high risk, high reward build and i like it, but if people know what thjey are doing, and a little CC would destroy this combo, since it takes a little over 3 seconds to "cast it all", alexstrasza is a good example since she has no CC whatsoever, but even D-Cain has a pushback with talents on melee, Reynor has the pushback/autoheal, Tassadar can banish, etc, etc...good combo to destroy no CC squishys (alexs) or glass canons like Nova...
why are you mentioning etc twice?
She’s a sub rogue. I like it
Hello,
I just saw your video because it was in the recommended section and about Valeera that i am playing in QMs for fun.
I am 3,2k MMR rated on EU Servers which considered as Master. Personally i think this build can be useable below diamond tier otherwise its not that great.
Let me break it down by talent choices:
Vigor - Only viable. Its OK.
Relentless Strike - Only viable choice. OK aswell.
At lvl7 Slice and Dice should be picked because Mutilate significantly decreases your mobility.
Ult - Personal preference
Death from above - After an opener you dont want to vanish because you dont have energy to do anything after and not giving any utility for the team. Strangle really dominant in that tier.
Assassinate really situational (Laning phase over at 16 mostly). In a TF situation for an objective there is really low chance that will ever come in handy. Basically youre playing from a talent behind. However Seal Fate is a decent choice.
Lvl20 talent - Personal choice. I like Elusiveness.
In master and above people will react really fast. You wont have 3-4secs freely like against a bot. They'll get away instantly if you don't lock them down or they will hurt you badly which significantly decreases your map presence if you have to go home and heal.
As Valeera your goal is to give advantage to your laner. Of course the easiest way if you manage to kill the enemy laner but most of the time its not possible.
What you should do:
Until level4 -> Open with Garrote - During the silence they cant hurt you badly. Like taking 2-3 AA is fine. Then use Sinister Strike 1 time and Blade Flurry on the enemy and you will have energy for 1 more which you will use backward. You did much more dmg than your enemy .
After level4 -> Garrote into SSx1 and Blade Flurry then Eviscerate after that SS backward. Because you want to trade efficiently.
At this point your laner have the advantage on the lane. If the enemy is going home thats a big XP loss.
If you start with ambush on chars with escape mechanism they will get away in 0.5secs. Hanzo jumps away, Genji dash away, Tracer blink away, Fenix tp away and so on.. after that they'll punish you. If the enemy dont have escape mechanism but have CC you really dont want to get that either. If you ambush on a Jaina there is like 80% chance she will kite you to hell and kill you. KT gravity roll and burn you. These are considered bad trades which cost HP most of the time if not death. You are forced to heal after this and the well has a CD.. TPing home and getting back like 45secs deadtime.
Also Valeera is a char which dont have to be in stealth at the start of the fight! You can vanish during fight and make an opener that time!
Screenshot from my Valeera night: Https://ibb.co/jnHL3J
Richard Hutter what about this build (I don't remember names of talents): 1 - 1 - 3 - 1 - 3 - 1 - 3. So with this build you could do your E twice, before the silence fade
Basically that's what i mentioned as talent choices if you mean by numbers Vigor - Relentless Strikes - Slice and Dice - Smoke Bomb - Strangle - Seal Fate - Rupture. This build have really nice energy regen - also you can sustain your dmg output.
If the enemy is alone you might stay for 2 Eviscerate if you feel comfortable. The less dmg you take from the opponents is the better.
What was the combo
0:30 Put the speed at 0.25
What i saw was Q(opening ambush), Q, Q, E, W, Q
I would think the proper combo would be Opening ambush Q, Q, W, E (all pressed within quick succession) and follow it up with more Q.
Yea. So what are the keys / attacks that you do?
It's literally just Q in from stealth, auto Q W auto E Q. Save your Q to glue to them, always use your E at 3 combo points ideally.
Tried the build and valeera just suck. By the time the build is done we either already lost or enemy group up tight and I do poor in teamfight. Firstly there's already rarely any hero that cannot cc you or have mobility skill to get away. After the Q talent, even a miss step can also cause you to lose the target already. The overall range is just a huge pain for valeera. Any other melee assain can engage from longer range than her. She highly rely on teammates to provide cc or bruise enemy before engage but many other ranged hero can just do better in the same situation. The only unique thing valeera provide is the 2.5s silence. If don't take advantage of that then better off just pick other hero.
Siyu Wu agree she works well with certain comps but with blizzard matchmaking it's not gonna happen often.
Its not that, you have to have patience with her, let your ranged poke and wait for the opportunity to engage. Just diving in because you can do a combo just gets you killed. This guide doesn't cover having game sense and knowing WHEN you should bust this out. It just displays that you can. I would prefer to see this in in-game scenarios..
True, very hard to pull. People move a lot, and 1 yard range can cause your combo to fail. I prefer another build
Im 218 Valeera, I like this build.
KerzOfficial lvl 218? Do you stream? Would love to see some gameplay.
You put out any videos? I'm lvl 123 and wouldn't mind watching others and how they utilize her.
There goes poor Valeera again, nerfs inc.
Jade Selket I highly doubt a nerf will be coming. Stealth mechanics are easily countered by vision and low cost high range abilities. Without her stealth her burst is rendered near useless.
Her burst also requires her to be 13+ and have picked up a lot the regen globes and specific scenarios where she has to hit a single'd out enemy.
Very specific circumstances for very specific outcomes.
this is only on frail targets like casters or dps...and thats if they dont react fast enough to dash, stun, push back, etc...in this example Alexstrasza is a good example since she has no CC whatsoever in human form...but if u got CC, 3.5second is a lot of time to answer to the burst
sigh.....
why do they have to do this =(
In 2020 its useless. But that rly looks powerful in 2018
You can do 5.3k damage with Zetatul haha just saying
This build fail.
It will very different in true combat.
You mostly need silence enemy.
So build Q on level 13 16 is quite useless.
And level 1 if you pick Vigor you will not have enough energy to burst down someone before you complete your Vigor Quest. Lv1 you better pick Subtlety
I like Q W E and Qs to catch them. Still one shots them
And its faster
Not a good build.
Seems people forget what 'one-shot' means.
Funny how in the very age of information we have so many people who seem to forget definition of words.
Also, level 16 values are pointless.
You explained nothing. We need something like E Q W R stuff. And you just kept doing the stupid flashy thing over and over again without telling the sequence. Disliked.
dislike because of the misuse if the term "one-shot". what this build does is burst damage.. one-shot is when you kill someone in only one attack on that single target
1shot ??? the tower hit alex dude... dislike for clickbait
I had another look and I think the tower was targeting a minion that Alex was directly on top of. There wasn't any additional damage from the tower, so yeah, one shot kill. Good grief I hate Valeera
Only time I would give you dislike straight from start, otherwise keep up the good work!
PS: Screw Valeera
Krešimir Turkalj get killed by valederas too often?
RadicalWizard k :)
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