DJI DRONE Batteries: Learn To 3X Lifespan! 🔸 DJI Mini 3, DJI Air 3, DJI Mavic, DJI Mini 2, Air 2s,
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Hello Flying Camera Crew! DJI “Smart Batteries” are pretty expensive so I created this little video to share some LiPo batter longevity tips I learned. Ohh man I was doing 2 major things wrong.
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There are CZcamsrs trying to convince us of always buying tech as a MUST HAVE. And there is Ted showing us how to save money on the tech we already use with real world tips. Thanks buddy, this is what the community needs.👍👍👍
Thorsten I appreciate it brother. I tried to make this kinda boring topic playful.
@ThorstenAltmann - totally agree! 🤙
I worked as a battery researcher for years. This video is mostly very accurate, but a couple things are incorrect or missed compared to my observations during that time.
Charging when very cold can be another major damage factor for batteries. In most cases, i would suggest making sure batteries have warmed up to room temperature before charging. The faster the charge, the warmer the battery should be to charge without causing damage, so this is extra important when fast charging. Interestingly, heat doesn't seem to cause any extra wear when charging vs just being hot, although it's usually a good idea to let it cool down a little before charging if it's really hot.
My observations from quickly cooling a battery down after discharge suggest that this is not a problem. I wouldn't worry about keeping them warm after a flight unless you are going to recharge them soon.
Just as heat kills, storing them in a cool place extends their life. Not saying you need to go crazy with a freezer or anything like that, but maybe store in the basement. Just make sure to warm it up before charging if it's below room temperature!
Hopefully this helps someone.
Two and a half years after owning my Mini 2, I decided to fly it on a 100+ degree day and make a video about it. While I made the video, I discovered the tips that DJI has on their website and that you showed. I had never bothered to check these and now regret it because my batteries have begun to swell. Apparently DJI is ok with some swelling if it goes back down but my batteries are permanently obese. Thanks for reminding us of these great tips for preserving our batteries, Ted!
Hey Christian. Fancy running into you in a comment section! Unfortunately many of us learn battery care and feeding tips only after our existing batteries have started exhibiting symptoms of underlying problems. Better to learn late than never, of course, but I suspect DJI and others treat batteries as wear and tear items and only address issues when obvious defects are present. In general, if ANY consumer battery is endowed with Power Delivery -PD 3.0 is current but when Samsung Note 10 first shipped the 45W charging could only be achieved with PD 1.0, QC 2.0 -finding a charger that actually delivered a 45w equivalent rare was difficult and NOT standardized. These days, a PD charger that adheres to the standard will rarely if ever get you in trouble. You do NOT need to by OEM branded gear. But you SHOULD by quality gear that follows standards exactly... not "generally" lol. 😂😢😅
@@BlairAir Hey, John - Always glad to see your comments in the comments. 😄 I've only had two drones. My Mavic Air batteries were swollen within the first year. Was it all my fault. Probably not. Did DJI make improvements by the time the Mini 2 came along? Very likely. As Ted said, the chips are probably better as well as some of the other components. You and Ted also talk about using the right chargers. I'm totally guilty of not following the recommended battery tips but my Mini 2 batteries lasted three years despite all the neglect I gave them. I plan on continuing to fly my Mini 2 because there's nothing wrong with it and I might invest in some new generic batteries.
An interesting & insightful video! An anecdote! I had my Mavic 2 Zoom drone on a WayPoint mission, start a mission with 98% battery then about a minute into the flight over water suddenly on the screen comes up "battery critical landing". I pushed the left stick forward to get height & get home but to no avail, down into water goes the drone. I with snorkel gear swam out later that day & fished it out. Sent the drone & flight records down to DJI Australia & although out of warranty DJI replaced my drone. Very nice of them! Something else I do is number my batteries so that I cycle through them; this gives more uniformity of use.
Yeah I number mine for the same reason.
This is good advice for ANY LI Ion rechargeable battery. including your cell phone or laptop.
Well done Ted...!
Good, sound advice beautifully presented.
As always, thanks
That was sweet!!! You are the Smooth Operator when it comes to showing your skills and your passion shines through
Excellent points, Ted! This set of issues applies across all sorts of lithium batteries, and it's an especially big deal with smart phones, since there are hundreds of millions of them kicking around. Even without temperature swings, keeping them fully charged for long periods can damage them, and a common manifestation of that damage is battery swelling (which a lot of drone owners experience, too). Smart phone makers are now incorporating software to keep batteries only mostly-charged most of the time, but DJI has more of a dilemma, since drone owners care a lot more about having their batteries fully charged in order to get the best flight time performance.
hey John! I appreciate you brother. Man I paid so little attention to proper battery care up until now. Like anything ….do something a few times and a good habit becomes second nature.
I have heard bits & pieces about battery care over the years but your video pulls it all together. Great stuff as usual Ted 🙏
hey Michael. Yup i was the exact same way: little bits of battery info here & thar. I figured I need to put on my man-pants and learn this boring topic. I tried to make it playful for you.
You're a frikkin' legend, mate.
Everything you said is spot on. Couldn’t have added anything. This is very valuable info for people that don’t know.
Great work on this information. I have been looking for this info. Carl
Great stuff as always, Ted! I learned a thing or two.
Great tips to prolong the life of those expensive batteries Ted! Thanks for putting this together.
I just walked upstairs to unplug my iPad and laptop
They’ve been plugged in for days! Good tip Haywire
you have an “upstairs”? ….you must be one of those fancy people i hear about.
You actually do not need to remove your laptop charger even when the battery is full. The BMS is way smarter these days.
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Another awesome guide! Thanks for doing all the leg work!
right on David. Thanks for watching and saying howdy
Love your videos, man!
You highlighted many great points about temperature range 32-104 degrees. I always thought it referred to the outdoor temp, but as you indicated its the battery temp which can be found in the safety menu. I have flow in 100 degree weather but never thought to check the battery temp as well. Thanks!
Thanks for the great information
Proper job, amazing content for drone pilots, many thanks 🙏 !
Hi Ted... Thank you for these very good tips buddy... 👍👍😉🤪
This is a very informative video for real. I definitely needed to watch this video 😮
Excellent tutorial and reminder. I didn't know the battery chargers were matched up to the batteries. Learn something new every day. Thanks much!
Awesome man, thanks!!
Another informative video Ted, as always 😉👌
Thankyou- very informative video. Cheers from Australia. 🍻
Thank you for another great video!!
Marcell i really appreciate it my friend.
Another round of killer tips.
Excellent batter tips!!
Great tips as always Ted! 👌🤟
As mentioned on your cheat sheet, I try to avoid fast charging by using a lower wattage charger. The only time I use the fast charge feature is when I need to "top it up" before going out flying and when travelling over multiple locations in the car
This is True,,, I like the way you think PILOT!!!
Great info thank you!
Some Great Information and Great Video Thank You Ted🙂👍
Very informative. Thank you Ted, you da man.
You caught the blood moon! great shot brother.
@@TedNemeth Yes sir, thank you
great research and info... thanks so much for sharing....!
Thanks for the contribution to the community, Greetings from Mexico my friend Ted.
Good stuff Ted. We all need to practice good battery safety.
Always amazed at your abilities, Ted. You are the master. Only you could turn esoteric gobbeldygook into a fun and interesting video, and of course pass along the important messages at the same time. Thank you for covering this subject. //Tom
Great info man, I've been letting my mini 2 sit in the closet for months at a time without charging it, going to get it out and give it a little juice. I used to race RC cars back in the day too, fun stuff!
I'm going to pick up one of those extinguishers, but one thing to remember is never let your battery charge unattended they can create a horrendous fire in a minute
Thanks Ted
Man it’s been so long sense I’ve seen that car, way to flash me back.
Great info, thanks for sharing. Can’t wait for your next one.
Dennis did you race back in the day? The RC-10 was/is legend. They actually have huge vintage RC races and meet-ups and channels etc.
@@TedNemeth No, never was a racer or model plane flyer. Have watched the cars and planes here in San Diego. They have a club that has a strip by Sea World where we can practice with our drones.
@@TedNemeth going to Alaska and just found out I can't take my Mini 2 onboard. I told them I won't fly it while onboard only when I get off in ports. Sucks.
Great information, thank you
Belinda thank you! I appreciate it. -TED
Good information Ted.
another great vid Ted
Roger! thank you brother.
Good tips 👍
Great summary.
I've seen on another channel, the point being made that the smart battery can receive firmware updates. So, if you have a few batteries and there is a firmware update that includes the battery, you need to cycle each battery in the drone to get that udpate.
Thanks!
Donovan! wow brother I’m super grateful for the support. Do you use a drone in your production work? Any topics you would like me to cover in a future episode?
Yep, good stuff for sure.
Lots of % can we trust the batterie's lights for a relative % ie 4 lights 100% 2 lights 50% or are you suggesting we connect to the controller to get more accurate percentages?
The other issue i have is going put for the day and charging 3 batteries and only using 1 because if weather changes... how many non flight charges can a battery take. I am considering only charging 2 and rotating the third one in every other month?
After purchasing a drone recently, I took one of your contemporaries advice that any 100 watt charger would do, and on his advice bought an after market charger, silly me, I should seriously know better, thanks for this story, much appreciated 🙏
Outstanding video as always.
I looked at your link to battery safety bags, I got some last year when I got my Mini 3 Pro and used them when taking them on a plane. I've also just got some for the Mavic 3 Pro that I've just acquired. What I found when looking for these bags is that you can get ones that hold multiple batteries, typically 3 or more. I just found it not only strange but actually stupid that you would want to contain a burning battery inside a bag with 2 [or more] other batteries, setting them on fire too! Each of my batteries has its own bag.
hey Michael. I agree with you. I was just researching about getting drones & gear through airport security and there’s a few airports (domestic and international) that require those specific LiPo bags. I’m going to get a small one for travel next year.
Great tips!
Dave right on brother. Thank you for watching my friend.
Thank u!
I did not hear you mention the DJI auto discharge feature, at least the Mini 3pro batteries have it where if a charged battery sits unused for 6 days or so it will automatically discharge to 65%.
I have had this happen where I picked up a battery and noticed it was warm, I checked it out and it was the auto discharge.
Great tips, thanks. I have a Tenergy Balance Charger for my fixed-wing RC plane batteries and it has a 'discharge for storage' function. Is there any such animal for DJI batteries, or do you just discharge to 50% by flying the drone?
*Good info Ted 👍 For those people, including myself, permanently swollen batteries can still be used to charge other devices like phones using the adapter that came with the fly more package.*
David! How cool to see you here man. Many thanks. And that’s a great tip.
Common sense well presented thank you
Can’t fly without them mate excellent tips
yeah mate!
Great tips I lost a Mavic Air battery it was left in my car probably 5 minutes by I realized I was missing a battery the damage was already done.
That was some very important information, especially the fire safety. Thanks Ted. Like # 654
right on man. Glad to know my goofy little videos provide some value.
Nice information Ted 👍
Great Information Ted, i learned a lot for sure. We take our batteries for granted sometimes
hey Johnnie. I know I definitely take my batteries for granted most of the time. I thought it was finally time I pay more attention before something happens. So i figured other guys might be in the same position.
Looks like I've been doing everything wrong! Thanks for the informative and entertaining video ❤😃👍
hey buddy. Yeah same here, i was doing 2 major things wrong.
@@TedNemeth I've also now numbered my batteries so I'm using them in order, not just using the same one all the time... At least that's the theory. 🙂👍
In case no one has told you lately Ted, you are a real asset to the entire drone community. I’ll stand up on the desk right now, no joke, like dead poets society.
William! man I’m super grateful you’re part of the community here. Love your spirit. And thank you for the kind words brother.
Great info
Tks for the video , it was very enlightening ! One doubt. When I complete to charge the batteries, I must to remove from the base or I can store it on the charging base ( disconected from power )?
hey buddy. Would keeping the batteries in an unplugged case drain the batteries power? If it did I can’t imagine it would be very much. But I don’t have a definitive answer on that ma friend.
Yes Beater drone
I’m looking or thinking about passing along my mini 2….
But I might keep it as the beater.
ohh i highly suggest keeping your Mini 2.
I honestly fly it more than my my M3P.
I love it so much. Just more relaxed and fun flying a beater drone.
Great information...thanks for putting this together. QUESTION though...should you store the batteries in the charger (unplugged of course) or pull them out? AND...your cheat sheet says to calibrate regularly. How do you do this? Thank you.
hey Rick!….i do not know if keeping the batteries in an unplugged charger case will drain the batteries. My common sense says no?
I don’t have a definitive answer brother.
Great video!
My only question is if you recommend to only use the DJI Battery charging hub with DJI chargers or can we use any pd charger with the correct voltages ?
hey buddy. There’s some pretty high quality Chinese aftermarket companies now. But I know I would personally stay away from any super cheap non-brand name batteries & chargers.
@@TedNemeth Okay Thanks! So basically only use DJI Battery charging hub with DJI PD chargers? I was using the DJI battery hub with a samsung fast charge PD.
Thanks for sharing sir..
I noticed you had a VW Vanagon Syncro? NICE!!! 😁
Ha! Nice job diving into the exciting world of recharge DJI smart batteries! Riveting topic and you made it even more relatable. Nice job and all kidding aside, I deal with fat batteries and a constant rotation in this Cali heat. Ok, here's why I really commented. Any chance you'd want to share your knowledge and insights on FAA airspace, remote ID, Geo-Fencing la la la. I know, again, a very sexy topic but like you, dealing with this in a large metro, I am constantly requesting 0 alt. and airspace waivers here in The Basin. Just a thought. Really enjoy your channel.
I’d been looking for some battery education! As I have three drones that use the same battery, (2-Mini 3s, and a Mini 4 Pro) battery life is unique for me. I like the 50% storage idea…As all of mine usually are charged back to 100% guess I better go fly to get them down to order! LOL Darn, gotta go fly…it’s recommended ya know!
i love your work and your are a great person
one little thing about chargers- on the air 3 there is no charger delivered with the product.
Great info, I could not find anything of the controllers battery life, any suggestions, should we also keep it at 50% when not using for a few months?
hey Jim. Correct….keep the controller battery around 50% also for long term non-use
Hi, my name is Robert and I just wanna let you know that I have enjoyed watching your videos very well put together very informational. I have subscribed to your channel. I will keep watching your channel with the drones. I do have a mini three pro and also the mini two and I love Cinematic videos keep up the great work
right on! thank you for watching and taking the time to let me know you enjoy my playful tutorials. Welcome aboard
TY
I just saw an after market charger saying it only charges the batteries to %98-%99 to avoid over charge and it also has a storage mode that keeps them at %60. I wonder if this would be a good option based on the specs they claim.
Lots of good information. What I'm still not sure of is the most common actions when using the drone. Batteries are best stored at 50%, and if stored for extended periods, then do a full cycle at least once every three months. What is a full cycle exactly, drain to 10-20%, charge to 100%, drain to 50%? Or just charge to 100% and drain to 50% (doesn't sound like a "full cycle")? What about regular use. If the batteries are low, then you want to charge because storing low is very bad. Do you charge to 50% and then store, or should you charge to 100% and then drain to 50%? Does it matter, as long as you get to 50%? This isn't easy since both options require your attention. The Fly More charger for Mini 2 and 3 pro charge each battery in sequence to 100%, so you'd have to pull each battery around 50%. I've seen the charger sometimes switch which battery is getting charged and so to be safe you'd have to do one at a time. This seems particularly time consuming and would make me avoid using the drone. The most obvious solution is to charge from 50% to 100%, and only run each battery down to 50% before pulling. But that halves your flight time. Is there a set of practical and easy steps that treat your batteries well, while also making it convenient to use the drone?
Thanks for the helpful video. I have a question: you said it's best to keep batteries charged at around 50% (and certainly not less than about 20%) when not in use, but how does one achieve this in practice? Since the DJI intelligent charger charges up all three batteries sequentially, it's not possible (or not easy, anyway) to charge them all up halfway and then unplug.
I my old DJI Mini2, if you stored the batteries in the charger, they would automatically discharge to a safe storage level. Do you know if it's also true on the New Mini4 ? (I assume it is).
HEY! I have a mini 2. It's not a beater dtone😂 I love it! Been flying for a couple years with it. And I've never wished for more. Maybe someday I'll upgrade to more sensors, but I'm not in any hurry.
Ed! My Mini 2 is the piece of gear that changed my life & made flying cameras my career. I still fly it ever week.
Welcome aboard to our flying camera crew
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i like your style Greg
@@TedNemeth Not bad for a mad Scotsman eh? Seriously though, it's right up there with the DB5 but beautiful in it's own way.
This is a great video everyone should see. I saw another video where guy quotes DJI manual that batteries auto discharge after 1 day to 96% and after 5 days to 72%, this is why when you go to fly your batteries are never at full charge. Then they tell you after 10 days to manually discharge to 40-65%. How do you do that? You would either have to use your two-way charging hub to charge other devices or go fly your drone. This manual discharge part seems a lacking feature or perhaps they will naturally get to ~50% level over time, but how long?
Same question re how to discharge
Ahhh I see he answered the discharge question below in another post -
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you got style my brother. thank you for joining the gang here.
Ted, thanks for the video...yeah...I've been doing crap wrong with my batteries. So, when I hike my dog Blitz carries the drone in his backpack long with the remote and spare batteries. I was setting up my shot and Blitz was being Blitz and chasing squirrels. Finished my shot, called Blitz over, saw I left his backpack unzipped and I lost 2 batteries. Well, that was a 160.00 mistake. Lol lesson learned.
i love chasing squirrels too! …i mean dang sorry to hear you lost your batteries. Expensive little buggers.
nothing said about charging the battery directly in the drone ? I assume dJI 3 port charger has some sort of charge protection as well as sequencing the batteries . I have been using an apple C charger which is listed as 20w and the older usb port rated at 10 w the tiny usb port for cell phones is rated at 5 w . what is the recommendation for slow charging the DJI batteries
Very good, Ted. Another tip: If you get a battery related warning on your controller screen, it might be time to ditch the battery. Happened to me with a Mini 2. I shrugged and ignored it after the message disappeared. Had a couple of good flights with no problem. Then out of the blue it dropped straight out of the sky landing right on the gimbal and destroying it.
yes absolutely Charles. Thank you for being part of the FLYING CAMERA CREW here!
Thank you for this excellent video. I have a habit of charging my batteries after a flight, trusting that they will discharge in gas I don't get a chance to fly for a few days. I've found that this works as often they're down to 3 bars when a few days have passed. In that case I recharge them before heading out, to get maximum flying time. This also means that they're usually down to about 20% after the flight. Am I damaging my batteries by charging them after a flight (until the charger stops)? Sometimes it's hard to know when the next flight is and I always like to be as ready as possible.
hey buddy. thank you for watching. I appreciate it. You asked if you are damaging your batteries by fully charging them then possibly letting them sit for a few days. I address that in the episode that DJI recommends not storing batteries at full charge. Will it damage the battery? not likely but possibly. DJI says the safest thing is to keep them at roughly 50%. Could be anywhere between like 30% to 70%. The whole point is not fully charged or fully discharged.
Thanks to my friend for sharing the nice video.
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TED,,,What's good FAMILY... Long time no see.. Glad to see you back on the scene... Everything you said is true... Hears what I have learned.. I have the Charging Bricks for all of my DJI Drones... Those Bricks hold the Technology that DJI speaks of as far as talking care of the batteries.. They will fill up,, discharge, and I've never seen them drop below 50%... Still not everyone has the Bricks and should Definitely follow your advice on how to handle them!!!!! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 Rating to this Information!!!!! I learned a few things I wasn't aware of.....
hey Jonathan great to see you man. Loved ur last A2S vid. Great spot you got.
Lovely video my friend 👍👍
When i received my new mini4 pro all the three batteries were total flat would not power up drone for initialising sign in etc... hope thats ok and normal out the box for new batteries
Awesome video, I've just got my first drone. It's a DJI mini 3 Pro. Do you know how many charges the battery will take on average.
dude congrats on your new M3P! You got a champ there. I think I saw a range of 200 to 400 cycles depending on health habits.
@TedNemeth cheers. I'm from the UK, and the weather isn't the best 🤣 rain, wind, and some fog lol, so my batteries should last a while as long as I store them at around 50% charge. I wouldn't have known that if it wasn't for this video, after watching it, I unboxed my m3p and flew it around the living room until the batteries got to about 55%. Cheers, dude.
Great video, thanks. The only point I can add is that the Mini3 and Mini3Pro batteries are Lithium-Ion and not Lithium-Polymer ;)
@Ted Nemeth 👍👍 THANKS! These are fantastic tips! I've been flying drones since 2016 and have learned to HATE Li-Po batteries because of their finicky charge/discharge/storage requirements. I honestly don't know why, other than maybe energy density and/or possibly higher allowable current draw, why Li-Po batteries have largely replaced long-lasting easy-to-maintain Li-Ion cells that have been used in laptops for years and years.
My 2016 era then-very popular Hubsan H501S drone had Li-Po batteries and they were an extreme pain in the butt to maintain, to prevent damage. When I finally wore it out, in 2019 I bought a Mavic Mini (1) and was happy it came with Li-Ion batteries. Guess what, those 4-year-old batteries are still going strong even after long periods of storage. All I ever did to maintain them was to give them a full charge before and after flying and/or occasionally after long periods of inactivity. I just flew my Mini 1 again last week a couple of times in preparation for receiving a new Mini 4 Pro and those old batteries charged to 100% and performed perfectly. TBH I was shocked when the Mini 2 debuted and learned that DJI had switched to Li-Po cells. I was thinking WTF?!
So this week I've been flying my brand new Mini 4 Pro, and love it, but worried how to properly maintain the Li-Po battery that came with it. I also just bought the severely overpriced DJI Mini 3 Plus 3850mAh battery. It was $105 USD on-sale here in Thailand!. Oh well, it performed great yesterday and hope it lasts a long time.
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays from Thailand! 😁
Jimbo! congrats on your M4P. I hear it’s even quieter than the M3P,…which I think is very quiet. Ohhh man I miss Thailand. I’ve visited there several times. I’ll be returning to film for some charities in the somewhat near future. Are you located in the north or south?
@@TedNemeth Sawadee Krup - Don't know how it compares to the M3P, but the Mini 4 Pro is unbelievably quiet and much quieter than my Mini 1, which isn't very loud itself. Glad you like Thailand. I've been here for 18+ years and LOS has changed so much since I moved here in late 2005.😭 I live in Isaan, the rural northeast farming region. Right now I'm finishing the last step to (hopefully) get my M4P registered. Yep, all drones with a camera, no matter how small, have to be registered and insured! It's quite a pain in the backside as we have to go thru 2 government agencies, NBTC (National Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission) and CAAT (Civilian Aviation Authority of Thailand) and also buy liability insurance (fairly cheap).
BTW if you're planning on bringing your drone here, even as a tourist, you should register it and purchase insurance before you arrive. Penalties and fines are very stiff these days if you get caught flying without proof of either. It's a bit tedious but can be done completely online. Reply to this if you need more info.😁
Uf!
It makes me less work to take care of my hamster and my dishwasher.
I just want to fly my Mini 3 Pro to avoid going to the Psychiatrist.
Greetings from Uruguay.
Hi @Ted Nemeth, thank you sooo much for all your videos.. Your videos are truly very helpful to me.. new subscriber here.. be waiting for ur next videos
yesss! welcome aboard to our FLYING CAMERA CREW. You are from the Philippines yes?
Nice Ghostbusters reference, Ted! I got it!
you caught that. Thanks for watching my flying filmmaker friend.
@@TedNemeth I want to sincerely thank you for your videos. They speak my language and you are my kind of ‘wierdo’. I have learned much from you. I just finished day one of a weeklong stay at Lake Danforth in Quebec, Canada. Using your advice, I’ve already captured some beautiful photos and videos that I couldn’t have done before finding your channel.
So, thank you again. Safe travels!