Why Depressed People Are Logical (Depressive Realism)
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- Depressive realism is the idea that people with depression might see the world more accurately. Unlike non-depressed people, who often have an overly optimistic view, those with depression might have a more realistic understanding of their abilities and the control they have over situations. But is this true?
Do depressed people have a more realistic view of the world? Do you think depression can sometimes lead to a more logical and accurate perception of reality? In this video, we'll be talking about depressive realism. Let's explore and discuss.
#depression #logic #mentalhealth
Disclaimer: This video is not to diagnose anyone or romanticize mental illness or depression. If you or someone you know is struggling with depression or with their mental health in general, it's important to seek professional help.
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Voice Over: Brandon
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References.
Alloy, L., Abramson, L. Y., Metalsky, D. R., & Alloy, L. B. (2000). The hopelessness theory of depression: Cognitive vulnerability and learned helplessness. Psychological Review, 107(3), 389-425. Retrieved from pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3281732/#article-details
Martin E.P. Seligman (1990) Explanatory Style as a Mechanism of Disappointing Athletic Performance. Retrieved from journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-9280.1990.tb00084.x
Gibbons, JM, & Alloy, LB (2008). Intertemporal choice and depression: Does impatience reflect a more realistic appraisal of the future? Journal of Abnormal Psychology, 117(1), 194-204.
Metalsky, DM, Joiner, TE, Rubio-Manzano, P, & Ickovics, JR (1993). Cognitive biases in interpersonal perception. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 65(2), 389-400.
I hate it when people mistake my realism for being negative. Then they hate it when I'm right.
Right.
When the weather is shitty, that's because of the weather broadcaster.
Ikr!
If you say:
"If we all go together, we are gona fight"
Then you annoy everyone and you end up fighting, you were technically right, but everyone will hate you.
Then also, if you go to a theatre, and keep criticising everything, you are annoying.
Then theres a thing called a "bias".
meanwhile i’m overly negative and not realistic, i believed i’d fail my english papers and i had so much anxiety, and had breakdowns about it.
i got the highest score in my grade 💀 i also talk negatively so much that people probably think i’m attention seeking, i just wish i’d be more positive because i’m always positive about others but not myself
Because most of the people can't handle truth.
Ah, rationality. A blessing... and a curse.
It is brother…it is.
the curse of knowing- too many lovecraftian stories explaining the concept of knowing a tad too much
@renaktar8246 you're a lovecraft fan me too
We live happily in ignorance
I didn't ask to be born into this world - I don't know what comes after.
Just in case there's absolutely nothing after life, I wanna see this experience through till the end.
Would be a shame not to act like this if it is the only shot I've got.
Maybe logical people are just depressed because reality is shit.
Yep
You have a good point
Yes. The dog wags the tail, not the other way around...
Agree, the more mentally mature i am the more vulnerable i am to feelings of hopelessness like there's no point to thinking to the future anymore and that explains my visible escapism like i just don't want to be in the present anymore and develop nostalgia for things that i lived in 2019 like it's the last of the truly great days
Reality is the worst
Depressice Realism 0:26
Heightened Awareness 1:10
Self Evaluation 1:38
Explanatory Style 2:03
Over Generalization 2:33
Pessimism 2:52
Thank you
That's why people think im intelligent
Same
@@jenniferselzer6485 yea same
I'm in this picture and I don't like it
Christ loves you beyond comprehension, turn to him❤❤❤
@@sam-md2so Jesus said you shall not spam under random comments. Get lost.
Cause they saw reality as it was/is and don't delusion themselves
Delusion themselves..
*Delude themselves, That's what you mean
That's a fact 💯
Yes! And then you have some negative core beliefs (like going to hell for being gay as example) and that twists everything to a bad thing, instead of looking at the positive things of reality.
@@DasHeino2010Uh.. no..
Truth tellers punch hole in peoples' facades, and do not engage in the magical thinking that most do. They don't suffer the endemic cognitive dissonance that plagues our society. As a result, they are often demonized and cast out of peer groups, looked down upon by family, and labeled derogatory names by those in charge. They often say what needs to be said when no one else is capable and often pay the price for saying it. We also know that this is a losing battle. No wonder we're depressed.
Dang, it’s true though, when you point out the truth to people there’s a good chance they ain’t gonna like it, even if you told them for their own good, it’s pretty harsh
What's funny to me, in the end they all float down here.
I came to this realization fairly early on and is why I live by mottos, one of which being “Patience is a virtue”. People often aren’t going to realize I’m right and I have to wait for them to realize.
What makes it harder is you know it’s a losing battle, and you’re aware how it casts you out, but you still can’t help but tell the truth.
@@ironDsteele Just realized I’m an anarchist. This is the theme song of anarchy.
yea, i kinda relate to this a lot, and i used to be so cynical and pessimistic, but i came to realize that not everyone is bad and not everyone will hurt you like those that hurt you. And that even if you are down in a dark pit, u can always find a way out if you try. i find that that mindset stopped me from being motivated and kept me from truly showing my loving nature towards people that i truly love and care about. so whoevers going through rough times and depression, take ur time, breathe, vision yourself free from that stressful situation, work towards it slowly 1 step at a time, and dont be afraid to find comfort from the people who truly loves you and would only want you to succeed. i would not have made it out from this dark pit without the people around me
I totally agree, the people around have been such great comfort and have helped me get out from that “dark pit” :)
Woww this is the best comment on the internet❤
Your username makes this somewhat funny. But awesome insight!
I can relate 💯 glad we are all working on our mental health 🤗
Stuff like this is why usually keep to myself when it comes to certain issues.
I enjoy seeing other people loving life & optimistic no matter how life is hard. I don't want to take that away from them.
I was like that, then I accepted complete and total defeatism. Now no more stress, anxiety, tension, or constant exhaustion. My worries and outlook on life is meaningless, I live to live and nothing more. No striving, but no struggling either; it set me free.
You live like you are dead. No thanks
No life goals, sorta means your life is useless, as you wont change anything.
1 thing is not caring about meaningless stuff like getting rich or pointless society norms, but not caring about art, people, happiness means your no diffrent then dead.
@@EdinoRemeridonah he’s just figured it out. When nothing you do has an affect on the world. Everything you do ends up mattering to you and not others and therefore you’re mentally free. You have to read the words
@@esotericshiv he doesn't specify that it matters to him.
@@Adama.1feeling nothing at all in some cases might be better than constant suffering worry and anxiety. Art of indiffrence to the point where one is as you said "living like dead" is usually a form of escapism and the longer you can maintain the "no thanks" viev on this the better for you
The greatest cause of depression is the inability to see past the horror of reality.
What's even that bad about reality?
@@EdinoRemerido I hope you keep thinking like that.
@@bruh-ir3po you can't name a specific thing?
@@EdinoRemerido that it is based on often evil occult doctrines?
@@EdinoRemerido There is not a single ruler in existence with the will AND ability to change things for the better. Due to the dominant ignorance of the masses, people are extremely easy to manipulate toward one political opinion, and it's usually the ones screwing the world up the most that gain the greatest traction.
Acts of kindness are fleeting and short-lived, and ultimately meaningless when no real change is brought about. Life is a constant cycle of agony and temporary resolution, as it is the law of the world that matters always return to the worse, because human society is not built to be sustainable. There will always be significant differences in people's socioeconomic situations, and those with the most wealth look to secure their dominance.
There are a great number of smaller-scale issues that people suffer from, from rough social life to questions of identity. And the world at large is coldly indifferent to these issues, rejecting questions in favour of authoritative assertions of status quo.
I am the type of person this video talks about. I am the kind of person who would agree with the necessity of the abhorrent morals of Thanos and Eren. The world is broken, dysfunctional and in favour of those fitting its pre-defined mold, and the only way to fix it would be to deny the human nature. But nobody in real life would have such power, the means or conviction, and so those living in the shadow of this realization live in darkness, because we know the light is a conditional presence. We surrender to our powerlessnes.
You wanted specific examples? There. The darkness of cold logic - there is no hope to affect the world around us because it is fundamentally broken.
Depression is my teacher. Pessimism is the wisdom I've learned. My happiness was a delusion that prevented me from seeing the truth.
Oh, that explains a lot. I think one of my favorite things about taking an antidepressant and bring myself out of that depression that I was in is that I can still find the nuggets of truth and logic, but not react to them in such downtrodden and negative way.
If I go trough a breakup of some kind, I don’t spend my time crying. If they don’t want me, that’s fine.
If it's someone you were in love with, it'll hurt regardless of if you cry or not. For me, it fills me with anger at them for hurting me and myself for trusting them. I still despise those who hurt me after lying to my face about how much they cared about me.
@@Adventist1997I have never experienced a feeling of crush or love. What is it like? I don't get why people drop everything that they're doing and focus on just one girl.
@@henloisiyu
Actual love can be platonic or romantic. If you have a sibling that care about and want to help and stuff, that's true love. A romantic partner is a similar love but obviously involving extra feelings for them. Those feelings can easily be confused with lust rather than love.
If that's not emotional growth, I don't know what is...
Yeah they see end result a lot faster and if it’s worth the energy or not
And people say that depressed people are just being negative when they're just being cautious. Thinking nothing good will happen to them afterwards after being good for so long. And anime makes their reputation worst, somehow.
Yes but like always, it’s the journey who really matter, the issue is, once you start to see it, it’s hard to look away
@@AfterthymeGaming and also if someone (like me) thinks that just bad things will happen then if something actually good happens only those who have suffer from disorders like this can feel the happiness at that point
I have been going through this depressed realization from age 14 itself. It was really the lonelist journey i have ever been through😢. But today it made me to be self aware, improving problem predictions and solutions to it😊. Dont sit back and waste your life in sadness, instead fight back the depression , so that realization will come to you eventually after some hard experiences💪🦾💟
Wait there’s a robot arm emoji?
🦾🦿Oh there’s a leg too
These videos are the closest thing I’ll get to talking to people about my depression
Thank you
Me: Wait....WAIT- THAT'S WHY I'M SO KNOWLEDGEABLE!? Dam:(
I’m dumb as hell is reason I feel depressed
I must b a genius 😂
"Lmao, I'm a fucking genius."
"..." ":["
Being logical and knowledgeable are two diffrent things.
I can often see when somebody speaks out of emotion instead of logic.
They make up the logic, because they want to advocate for a certain thing. But the emotion was there first, and is the driving force.
Yea you can tell at times but I also think you can be logical while having emotions as a driving force. It’s all abt self awareness :)
I've actually started noticing my logical mind is what seems to be dragging me down more than anything. I'm glad this video dropped
As someone who has battled depression I believe i gained a tremendous amount of introspective of going through the highs/lows of life and it really made the good days feel good and the bad days well… I learnt eventually to be more positive and I now settle on, “tomorrow is going to be a better day”. I work through my bad days. Try my best to make peace and at ease with the negatives going on in my life. And usually now with that my set, the next day feels like a W!
I battled depression. I convinced myself that live is not all bad and that good things will happen. But reality is they never did happen. Everything is just going downhill and my new found optimism just lead to more failure. Reality is that live is a shitty experience. 1/10.
@@mabus4910 As much as this current experience your are facing sucks ass.. It's very hard joys in life when you feel like everything is going wrong. The biggest thing you need to focus on are getting some small win's and starting alot of emphasis on them.
This is just delusional on a whole other level….
@@hashbrown4325our entire society is built on delusion. Believing in a better tommorow i'd say is less delusional that believing in being rewarded after death by a father nobody Has ever seen. If it helps them go on through the day i'd say that its a healthy mindset to have.
As a psychologist, I think in such cases Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) might be more useful instead of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT). In CBT you are trying to change the thoughts. In ACT you learn psychological flexibility (among others)
This made me realise how much of a train wreck I am. Almost certainly has ADHD, given myself the terrible gift of p*rn addiction, depressed bordering suicidal and finally the self-hate stops me reaching out...
Being a depressed, autistic girl, its soooo important to keep a balance between cynicism and positivity, while still remaining open to new friends and true to your boundaries of not accepting abusive ones. Especially when everyone knows you're the best therapist, but keep in mind reciprocity and if they wont help that in return, you dont have to always be the hero for someone who wont treat you with the same kindness and love.
Edit: 3:56 talks about balance
I agree, the balance is important
It's nice to have like-minded people...
I strive to have the same policies.
@mikicerise6250 oh it certainly is and I find myself not listening half the time 😅 but growth isn't linear and that's okay! Working on yourself takes time ❤️
I have no filter, that doesn't mean I have no mercy.
I love all the anime references so much
Thank you for noticing!!
Fr I did not expect a bungo gay cats reference
Yes I am depressed, but that doesn't mean I don't want the world be to a happy place. Keep being happy and do what you can to better future generations to live longer and create things for our world without harming others or oneself in the process. I'm just depressed cus I'm afraid that world won't happen and it's hard to fight that pain with a smile sometimes. I keep trying to be nice either way.
Hey man. I know what it feels like in some levels. Just know God has a better world planned for you. This world was never meant for people like us in the beginning.
This video reminds me of Arthur Arcturus. Arthur Arcturus was a CZcamsr who was grounded in depressive realism, especially in his later videos.
As someone who has had depression before, as well as having CPTSD and being an AuDHDer, My default existence is partly-closed looking eyes, a sombre resting expression, and a low, matter of fact voice. I also happen to be goth, and this all tends to make people think I’m depressed occasionally.
But I am not. Rather, I dress in dark garb as respects to those taken before their time, known to me and otherwise, the world over. I am at peace with the less rose tinted area of reality. I suppose that’s sort of the inverse to this: while no longer depressed, I can be quite insightful and deep at times, which I suspect is because I still retain that manner of seeing the entirety of the picture, good and bad in equal measure. Because that’s life. And that’s okay.
People who aren't in agitated (positive or negative) states see things less distorted than others, and are more realistic and consequently have a higher probability to be depressed.
However, seeing life is suffering and meaningless in an overarching way doesn't mean that there's we can't assign it a worthwhile meaning.
One such meaning is helping reduce suffering of those who can't help themselves.
I’ve wrestled with depression in the past, and I’ve also been in a place of hyper joy, neither are a good place to be at, but experiencing both definitely give you a balance of reality, and being content of doing your best to make a great outcome in all circumstances and be blessed in it. There’s definitely wisdom to take from it to be able to counsel yourself and help others with the experiences
Hyper joy isn’t a bad place to be at unless you’re experiencing a manic episode or hypomania or have a dopamine addiction, which isn’t joy??? What are you even saying?? I experience a deep profound joy every time I love something and it’s never been a problem
Never did I think I would see Dazai and Chuuya in a Pysch2Go video
As a pearson who struggled with depression, it's literaly how i felt - the pink glasses was taken off and i started seeing things how they really were. But this actually made me even more depressed. For example when you realise that riches export wars just to earn even more money, and those brainwashed minios are going to military, bc they pay them (and that's just tip of the iceberg) - how on earth you can be happy living in such an evil world, it feels literally like hell. At this point i feel like happiness is just ilussion, bc idk what you can be happy about living in such a world. But the fair point mentioned in the video is that in depression negative things are so amplified, that you can be blinded to positive ending of any situation, and you just dont see any light and loose hope. And loosing hope is so painfull, bc when you loose hope the only thing you want is death
I've definitely seen an increase in self-awareness once depression hit me. I'm not especially good with social cues, but I can explain my rationality and flaws with ease. This also helps when there's a heated argument, I'll think of the facts before flipping out. Not the analytical type however 😅
From my experience, in the phase of depression, you see all the things that could go wrong. It's like escaping the matrix. Then I went to a psychologist, and he helped me reorient myself with the Matrix. Then I started seeing all the things that could go right. To live, it is essential for us to be optimistic.
1:47 loving the Dazai reference
Yeah!! I was surprised to see him here❤
Loved it
And two of them at that. Also, they have Chuuya when the video made the comparison between those with depression and normal ones. 😂
@@Phillia_crochet YEAH right lol
And i loved it ❤️
I love chuuya he’s my fvrtt💗
I actually wondered about this question my whole life, thanks for providing the scientific insights :)
Ignorace is bliss... sadly im not Ignorant
I've experienced both rationalism and depressive realism. The most simple difference is in rationalism. You don't lose hope, you don't give up on life, and you don't stop looking for a solution to your problem. Overall, you don't give up on yourself or your life. But in depression you lose hope and give up on both life & yourself.
Under a minute,i actually needed this video! Thx!
Let us know what you think afterwards!
I feel like this i know there isn't much i can do as i grew up in foster care, and i did not graduate high school. I have no doors open for me. I can't go back to school cause I can't afford it and need to work a lot because im working lower paying jobs. Im stuck
I also have social anxiety to the point where going to the groceries is hard for me. Being a man, im ashamed of this.... i try to look at the bigger picture, but honestly, it just looks like 60 years of misery, so why even bother...
Bieng, this logical, also makes me realize that S****** is not the answer, and i will have to work hard for my life, but is it worth it? Based on my experience, nothing ever works out, so why would this work? Im just laying here waiting for time to pass. Anyways im sorry for dumping this on you guys. i just have no one to talk to about these things.
Sorry that you going through this. I relate to having social anxiety and feeling like life isn’t satisfying anymore. I think what helps me finding a purpose. Self care is important but I also seek to help others. Maybe you should joined an activity group with people have a similar hobby as you. Take care :)
@Adaobi-luv8_ I like helping others I did some volunteer work for the foster care i was at but now i cant do that anymore.
But also I feel numb to the point where I just don't have any hobbies. Nothing existe me anymore. I come back from work and go to bed. Idk im kinda scared to go out. I know I should but I feel paralyzed. I just don't see the point if it's so people can stare at me, laugh at me and judge me for being a failure of a man. Not worth it. I'll stay home and rot thank you ahah
Anyways, Thank you for taking to time to respond to me I really appreciate it.
@@Xavier1... I’ve definitely had a point where I was just like this. Nothing was exciting or fun. Sometimes when you can’t save yourself, you need someone else to help you. If you have a family or friend you trust, you should tell at least one of them. And honestly no one is a failure. The fact that you’ve volunteer work and you’re still alive is a success.
@Adaobi-luv8_ thank you for the encouragement I appreciate it a lot
@@Xavier1... you’re welcome:)
I think my logic just works because when I was little like 1-7 we moved around a *lot* , like states over months, so at this point I try to assess what will happen to me if I move again (which I won’t but don’t trust that fact), I try to figure out my course of action to protect myself from being sad like I have before. So I think situations through and I acknowledge all possible outcomes.
Me too. However I tend to veer towards the worst outcome as being fact .
@@karyne826 Yeah, for me it’s just a probability, I never assume that the best outcome is 100% but I never assume the worst outcome is either
Depression is often a safety mechanism against the trauma of reality as a whole. I've suffered from it for a long time now, when i was younger i sorta had a realization of how profoundly awful the world was. This only deepened as i became a lover of history and learning about the history of the earth. I despair at how our species is messing everything up.
“It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” ~Jiddu Krishnamurti
Yes, we're carrying the negative burdens of the world while everyone is blissfully oblivious
FIRST, also, im going through a lot rn, my dad is aggressive towards me and i really dont know what to do. Im seeking for help of my friends and i cry a lot ab it
You are first!!!
@@Psych2go i need help💔😭
@@RTYT7777is there any other family member or friends you can talk to for help?
@@Adaobi-luv8_ i had adhd meds who caused me to become delusional, i called the police because i believed my dad abused me
@@Adaobi-luv8_ after calling them, ofc my dad could explain himself, he lied and lied, i had panic attacks and they didnt believe me, now im scared to search for serious help
I think a lot of this is a matter of perspective, like in the “why they failed a presentation” part, the depressed person may have given it everything they had and been perfectly prepared, but genuinely did fail because of bad luck.
They would be more likely to attribute their failure to being unprepared, when it may have genuinely been something else.
It is basically a question of “am I being realistic or pessimistic?”
I haven’t watched the video, but I must say when it comes to a sense of self, depressed people are the most illogical.
Give it a watch and let us know what you think! :)
I think at first that’s true but when we learn how to handle emotions better, we gain better self awareness:)
Christ loves you beyond comprehension, turn to him❤❤
It's an artifact of the world being a pretty unhappy place to exist, and awareness of the hedonic treadmill
2:24 liked the detail here, the most depressed sensei
It could also be the other way around, having the rational thoughts (cause their in a bad situation) cause depression instead of the depression causing the rational thoughts
Did any of you think you may have it backwards? Logical, clear thinking people develop depression, not the other way around.... usually caused by the emotional small minded nitwits we have to deal with on a day to day basis.
This is why I assume the worst all the time.
Nice, my depression has a silver lining
I have just moved to a new house because my son has moved to a new school. The trouble is I have to let him deal his own matters such as academia, personal growth etc. I am too afraid to let go because he cannot handle matters the way I want. I am stressed about that but at the same time he wants autonomy too. I am a perfectionist and that is killing me..... i am grinding my teeth all the time when i don't see things happened the way i want.
Gojo be everywhere except his own manga 💀
Yeah i was also laughing after seeing him :)
thanks for this!( I dont need it my friend does) your videos are very helpful, and are explained simply! new sub!!
Glad I could help!
Conclusion would went better with:"It is possible to see both grey clounds and the silver lining".
Your emotions being numb leads to having analytic approach at things.
I have this problem. And I try not to be TOO pessimistic. But when I have a compounding of bad days….i just don’t want to wake up in the morning.
I also see no point in going to a therapist because they will just tell me what I already know lol. Just try and find the silver lining.
Thank you for exposing me!!
Logic makes you aware and reality is sad and depressing ignorance is a bliss
I do this and never realized-
There is one major difference between this world view and mine. That is while I acnowledge my flaws, one of my strengths happens to be fixing things, so I figure if anyone can do something about it 🤔
It's a belief and determination to make certain that people you care most about are happy without you.
It also holds you back from making friends for fear of being judged or seen as odd weird or moody it's not that your angry at anyone your just angry at your self.
Bcoz they overthink a lot😢
This is the thing. Overthink, don’t fully commit to a direction, do 4 things simultaneously without gusto, fail at all four, focus on the minutiae of failing rather than this cycle, think you suck, repeat.
@@coreyroberts47 All of this "overthinking" (which is a judgement btw) is completely valid due to their experience. Nobody "overthinks" for no reason.
Well, certainly explains a lot…. Part of the reason, I love forecasting severe weather events!
Love the videos! I share with those I know would benifit from seeing them! Thanks! 👍🏼
Keep up the good works!
I became an atheist after being so depressed for 8 months
I used to live alone, had no friends and family isn’t supportive or understanding
Preparing for failing is guaranteed faling thou mitigated one. I try to think for a way for the best positive solution. Sometimes, it takes me to think early into morning and with little to no solution (like now), but for the most part, it works well.
it's great to have superpowers, but at the same time, nothing really matters anyway, so why worry.
I'm also a bit logical, but i'm rather feeling boredom than depression, because i'm always kinda lazy and i felt no fun at all even when going out.
Yeah but in my case, it's the opposite... When I hangout with people and try and have fun my mood becomes better. Actually, being fun is really creative. You can understand how someone get through job if it's dull because they make it interesting to work😉
@@PicFitpit maybe you're an ambivert
A few (or alot) of comments are saying alot of stuff about their negative experiences which I find pretty interesting enough to make my own comment on it.
My experience with this world is alot of things really. When it comes to my feelings, personally I don't feel too much. It feels abit numb, and empty, yet I have alot of goals and dreams. I wanna do alot of things despite how I may feel. My actions are towards the betterment of myself. With the way the world's headed, freedom is becoming everso restrictive. I don't see how I could make an huge impact on the world that would change it so drastically that you could make things better.
So I don't bother overthinking in that department. When I see society as a whole with this generation of lesser minded people, they're all cattle. Moving along with this world's system and doing whatever it is they wanna try achieve. Going after meaningless goals that doesn't actually make them feel any better. They feel useless, and unfulfilled. That's my view on it atleast.
If you think I'm talking about depression, it's not necessarily meant to be that way. I'm not a depressed person myself, but I sure as hell know I got a nihilistic view on this world when it comes to making a greater impact in the world. Especially how it will all be in the end. You can try changing things that could either start making a bigger impact on yourself, or maybe a whole group of people if your lucky, but anything bigger than that and it will be meaningless. You just won't be able to do it. Any and all impact made will only be on an individualistic scale, no matter how hard you try to make it more than that.
(To sum it down, greater actions in this generation are meaningless). You can do small things, but your restricted from doing any greater things. You have no greater freedom.
Things that would normally be shamed, are welcomed with open arms. So many studies and statistics support this if you decide to dig in deep further and look at the truth yourself. You just have to look in the right places.
Tell me what your experience are! Would love to see different takes on this.
Could you guys do a video about how some people just don’t change and HOW we could still try to help them / bring out the good in them?
Or
You know how some people do really bad things? Could you do a video on either how we can forgive them no matter what or give advice to those people about how they are messing up their own lives and the lives of people around them?
Sadly I left my depressed alcoholic stepdad for abusing me
Imo that's because when you are depressed you see life as what it is, without illusions there is no happiness.
The more rational you become, the unhappier you become. Therapies and medicines' whole purpose is to "unrationalise" your mind and help you create illusions to make your life better for yourself.
I can see the world realistic, understanding how the world works make you sad as you see people not helping themselves and ripple the problem for each other
depression is not sadness it is a state of detachment from emotion, so basically depressed people turn off the emotional side of their brain and rely only on the logical side of their brain to navigate the world and themselves. Depressed minds turn to rationalization and logical thinking as a way to avoid the risk of pain they have previously associated with emotion. Because depressed people 'switch on' the logical side of their thinking, they exercise that side of their mind a lot more and so over time they might actually become more logical of a thinker. Of course you don't want to stay in a depressed state for a long time because it still negatively impacts your cognitive abilities, but I do think that experiencing one period of depression in your life is actually really important in order for you to develop skills such as logical thinking, a realistic view on life, self-awareness and evaluation, etc.
Yep totally agree, being depressed and having depression are different.
God bless us all.
Man, the fact that content based on depression is constantly advertised to me is kinda funny, it’s almost like it knows me via other things I’ve searched, rip atleast im getting some self help in a sense, lol.
Man reality though, I don’t get why people try to look at it too positively or too negatively, regardless I’ve been considered negative most my life, through what I say more often then not happens, nearly exact sometimes it is exact but sometimes it doesn’t happen at all like I figured it would, though that generally happens when Im having even less sleep then normal, thanks insomnia, rip I don’t know but at least for me I’m thankful there are people who at least care enough to make content like this to help others understand our depression and the connection between it and our logical sides.
God bless us all.
0:43 Gojo 😭
I don’t want to self diagnose myself but I have majority of the signs explained…
I really don’t want to check if I am
It’s not like you get all the advantages. If you can think for yourself in a logical way you are more likely to be smart! Please try harder to cultivate happiness and be in touch with yourself emotional side
I wish I could be a lot happier, but the delusional thought that everything is perfect or going to be gives me even more anxiety.
In the midst of a depressive spiral. One day, I'm okay. Next 2-3, I'm not.
Saving for later.
After watching this video, I feel the need to ask some questions:
1 Do you guys think those who are aggressive warhawks are now being portrayed as logical realists while those who are peace-loving doves are being portrayed as idealistic fools by the mainstream media?
2 Are peoples like Hange and Armin too optomistic to the point of being nothing naive and foolish idealists for refusing to see that Marley as a nation is nothing but a bully that likes to do whatever they wanted because they are the most powerful one around? The same can be said about Queen Calca from Overlord as well.
3 If what I said about the media in the first one is proven to be true, why the media promoted this kind of thing? Why promoted the idea of using violence and military actions as the solutions to all problems in the first place?
I asked these questions because until recently, I used to be a depressive and aggressive warhawk who used what happened to me in the past, what I've read in history of humanity in general and my desire for equality for everyone to justify my aggressive personality and my "zero tolerance" policy against the bullies when feeling threatened. So was I wrong for being a warhawk? Was I wrong for believing in the school of thought known as Legalism that preached that all humans are inherently evil and very selfish creatures that needed to be controlled?
They said suffering is cause by evil. I said suffering is caused by seeking both good and evil things. The more we try to do good the more we suffer as much as we try to be evil. Suffering is a fact we just manage to tolerate it because our expected outcomes.
Hi, do you have any videos about how to talk about your feelings for someone who never talked about their situation??
Timestamps
1). Depressive realism 0:25
2). Heightened awareness 1:09
3). Self-evaluation 1:37
4). Explanatory style 2:02
5). Overgeneralization 2:32
6). Pessimism 2:51
Hope this helps you out. Hope you have a nice day. Sorry this is so late. 💙💙💙💙💙💙
This is a dangerous message to convey.
We just live in this world only to learn from mistakes and to live in pain.
We are not here to be happy
A side of me is philosophical, questioning about the behind-of-scene of life but a depressed individual. Even if he has discriminatory (see difference) perception, almost everything doesn't matter to him. Even being kicked or punched, he doesn't feel anything. It's not cope. He would says "That has to happened" while the other part say "That shouldn't EVER happened".
But he wants one thing: fun. Even on shittiest thing that's help with the "survival" of his being.
I would figure that I would be more logical in a depressive state, because I really can't rely or trust anything else.
This is true. When I was depressed I was more depressingly realistic. Now I’m a bit more optimistic
Depressive Realism you say??
...well, I know I don't TRY to be negative at any time, but definitely quite often can read most events & people on the spot. In turn, folk make better predictions & decisions than Many Others.
It's better too be grounded in such a society as ours(America) than to have your head in the clouds anyway. 🤷🏽♂
you should do video on s2x addiction not po4n addiction
Other factors must influence this behaviour
Yea other factors do, like environment and experience
The real problem is that society as of late associates such talk as 'irrational rambling while being high on something', so these perspective keep getting obscured from thee public eye, its legitimately disappointing for me to be part of the witnesses of this negative trend
I always wondered how I predicted so many negative or positive stuff and why all my friends take my advice literally, now I kind of know why but I never knew I might've been depressed 😭
Personally, I have never seen people who have other people depressed. In my case, it's more relating to no fun whatsoever and feeling like others out there are living their best lives😥
It all makes sense now, thank you
Depression does not equate to logic, in fact they are close to opposite of each other, the title is a bit misleading, only "depressive realism" would be more fitting to the topic of the video. But thanks for sharing this topic with us :)