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CPTSD vs PTSD - How are they Different?
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- čas přidán 22. 01. 2019
- What is complex PTSD or cPTSD and how is it different from PTSD? How do we treat these problems? Think of PTSD as an emotional reaction to a traumatic situation. Complex PTSD is not an official diagnosis in our diagnostic manual. Instead it’s a term used to describe a different kind of experience that a person has from chronic traumatic experiences that occur over time. It's usually trauma that starts in childhood. This could be either physical, emotional or sexual abuse or neglect. Because the neglect or abuse is occurring during the extremely vulnerable developmental years, the trauma shapes your development and your personality.
Here is the diagnostic criteria for PTSD, taken from the diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders. This is for information purposes and not meant to help you self-diagnose. If you suspect you may have PTSD, you should see a professional for an assessment.
Posttraumatic Stress Disorder. The following criteria apply to adults, adolescents, and children older than 6 years.
A Exposure to actual or threatened death, serious injury, or sexual violence in one (or more) of the following ways:
1 Directly experiencing the traumatic event(s).
2 Witnessing, in person, the event(s) as it occurred to others.
3 Learning that the traumatic event(s) occurred to a close family member or close friend. In cases of actual or threatened death of a family member or friend, the event(s) must have been violent or accidental.
4 Experiencing repeated or extreme exposure to aversive details of the traumatic event(s) (e.g., first responders collecting human remains; police officers repeatedly exposed to details of child abuse).
B Presence of one (or more) of the following intrusion symptoms associated with the traumatic event(s), beginning after the traumatic event(s) occurred:
1. Recurrent, involuntary, and intrusive distressing memories of the traumatic event(s).
2. Recurrent distressing dreams in which the content and/or affect of the dream are related to the traumatic event(s).
3. Dissociative reactions (e.g., flashbacks) in which the individual feels or acts as if the traumatic event(s) were recurring.
4. Intense or prolonged psychological distress at exposure to internal or external cues that symbolize or resemble an aspect of the traumatic event(s).
5. Marked physiological reactions to internal or external cues that symbolize or resemble an aspect of the traumatic event(s).
C Persistent avoidance of stimuli associated with the traumatic event(s), beginning after the traumatic event(s) occurred, as evidenced by one or both of the following:
1 Avoidance of or efforts to avoid distressing memories, thoughts, or feelings about or closely associated with the traumatic event(s).
2 Avoidance of or efforts to avoid external reminders (people, places, conversations, activities, objects, situations) that arouse distressing memories, thoughts, or feelings about or closely associated with the traumatic event(s).
D Negative alterations in cognitions and mood associated with the traumatic event(s), beginning or worsening after the traumatic event(s) occurred, as evidenced by two (or more) of the following:
1 Inability to remember an important aspect of the traumatic event(s) (typically due to dissociative amnesia and not to other factors such as head injury, alcohol, or drugs).
2 Persistent and exaggerated negative beliefs or expectations about oneself, others, or the world (e.g., “I am bad,” “No one can be trusted,” “The world is completely dangerous,” “My whole nervous system is permanently ruined”).
3 Persistent, distorted cognitions about the cause or consequences of the traumatic event(s) that lead the individual to blame himself/herself or others.
4 Persistent negative emotional state (e.g., fear, horror, anger, guilt, or shame).
5 Markedly diminished interest or participation in significant activities.
6 Feelings of detachment or estrangement from others.
7 Persistent inability to experience positive emotions (e.g., inability to experience happiness, satisfaction, or loving feelings).
E Marked alterations in arousal and reactivity associated with the traumatic event(s), beginning or worsening after the traumatic event(s) occurred, as evidenced by two (or more) of the following:
1 Irritable behavior and angry outbursts (with little or no provocation) typically expressed as verbal or physical aggression toward people or objects.
2 Reckless or self-destructive behavior.
3 Hypervigilance.
4 Exaggerated startle response.
5 Problems with concentration.
6 Sleep disturbance (e.g., difficulty falling or staying asleep or restless sleep).
F Duration of the disturbance (Criteria B, C, D, and E) is more than 1 month.
G The disturbance causes clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
H The disturbance is not attributable to the physiological effects of a substance (e.g., medication, alcohol) or another medical condition.
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Ignorance in professionals is sad. You can also get ptsd after mental abuse etc. Its not all about physical harm and death, humans are much more complex than that. A threat to one's existance isnt always death.
What are your credentials? I doubt they begin to compare to Dr. Marks’. It seems to me you’re just another weak entitled internet troll that would only make this kind of comment via the anonymity provided by the internet!
@@ThornyRoseV just because she didn’t mention mental abuse it doesn’t mean that she doesn’t believe that this can be the cause of PTSD. The video is less than 11 minutes long, that’s not even a fraction of the complexities of PTSD in all its forms and causes. It doesn’t take much effort to just be kind. people are on here for help and advice and she is offering this advice for free
i wonder if its possible to have both...
Thanks for this free video. Im so grateful. I checked myself into a hospital but ended up having to run for my life. Back to square 1. My aquaintence investigator was k.i.a. and I was not. I hope you keep these videos going because times are hectic. God Bless You ill keep you in my prayers.
Consistent exposure to emotional/Psychological abuse can also cause C-PTSD/ PTSD. Not just physical/sexual abuse.
HALLELUYAH Marie, exactly correct !! Just posted a very long post to that very point. Thanks, you confirmed my post.
Thank you! I have PTSD from prolonged psychological abuse and it is very frustrating when people don't even mention it.
Yes Marie , I also agree through experience.
My abuser never touched me harmfully but set about destroying my life emotionally and with coercive behaviour for 2 years , encouraging me to take my own life.
She then returned many times to finish me off.
I have all the PTSD symptoms , and it is a miserable life.
Thank you for highlighting this, I wish I could chat with you.
Wait didn't she say that in the video? I got distracted because I have watched 100s of videos so when its repetitive I check out mentally
@@franciscoguevara9727 it was more of as a reference to cptsd than ptsd, giving the image that people from repeated trauma can only have cptsd, but as said in the video, they have different symptoms though some may overlap.
The tragedy, at least for me, is that the damage of cPTSD is your 'normal'. I am 50 and just learned that it isn't normal to have never felt happy, I didn't realise that it is possible to 'feel' that someone is happy to see you.
Heartbroken doesn't begin to describe how I feel about that my childhood has stolen from me.
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Narcissist Abuse will cause CPTSD.
Shut it down, this includes family.
No where is it written to honor abusers.
Borderline Personality Disorder abuse too.
Had to let go of most of my family for this reason.
L M
Damn I figured so... Me and my siblings were victims of Narcissistic abuse- physical emotional and mental. I always feel I don’t have my own thoughts and I’m always paranoid and dissociated.
yes with narcissist.
thank you. hugs
Sometimes where this stuff is combined with fundamentalist religion, and stuff like "rebuke not an elder...", it can exacerbate both the abuse and the response.
I have CPTSD not from childhood experiences, but from 20+ years of narcissistic abuse in my marriage. Not all repeated traumas are childhood related. I was only 19 when that relationship began, and was 43 when I finally left the relationship. It fundamentally changes a person to live through that for so long. By the time I left, I didn't know who I was on my own, only what was expected of me to not incur the wrath of the narc-in-charge. It's been 2 1/2 years since I left, and I am still recognizing behavior responses and decision making processes that are conditioned from having been in that abuse cycle for so long.
Start over and learn to stop the negative tapes in your brain. Find a kind therapist and turn to God.
You are made in His image. You are good.
@@lindamcdermott2205 How can a woman be made in the image of a male god?
@@lindamcdermott2205 this is the dumbest comment i have seen today, i dont want to be rude or anything (sorry). But im sick and tired of this «god» shit, he havent done shit for anyone in this so called reality. «God» is just a thing people choose to belive in to feel better, and i respect that! But not this. i suffer from C-PTSD too, god havent done shit for me. And if a god even existed where was he when i got physicaly beaten on my way to school and home from school nearly ever single day for 5-6 years in my childhood? On top of that getting raped at the age of 8. again sorry if im rude or anything, im just trying to be realistic and when you people who belive in god say that he is the solution to every fucking day of struggle. Thats something that pisses me off👌🏼
@@buttercxpdraws8101 God is not male nor female
@@lindamcdermott2205 recommending people to turn to god is offensive and is not the answer. Religion should never be recommended unless you know for a fact that person believes in God. I would never tell a person who believes in God that they should practice Buddhism, or that they need to turn to Daoism or Hinduism, just for example. You don’t know what this person’s beliefs are. Pushing your ideal of turning to “God” on a traumatized individual is absolutely rude.
No food in the fridge for an after-school snack, but mom and dad never seem to run out of wine, whiskey, pot, and cigarettes.
Damn my father once starved me for 3 whole days
My parents wear together, we all ate well, we. "had it all"...But my dad was a ckosed door abuser. Narrsistic, angry, .....I"m 59, and still cannot put it behind.
@@peterruiz6117 same in a way. We all showed up to church Sundays. He would pray right next to me but sometimes a few hours before that he would abuse me. That's all blocked out but I lived in such a weird state of mind. I can only describe that as disassociating for really long periods of time.
I had DID, but integrated in Feb of 2020. I still work with a fragmented self but they are parts that do not quite qualify for a full blown personality. My therapist said now this might be considered C-PTSD. While DID, I attended a group for people with DID but we used DBT and it really helped. I still use my DBT skills and would recommend it to anyone who has a childhood trauma based emotional illness. I love your videos. I went 20 yrs trying to find a good trauma therapist. I was always ending up with therapists that had the same thing I did. But finally moving all across the country and living in Colorado, also finding a friend online from Toronto, I find one. The friend in Toronto j her therapist if there was any one in Co. Springs that was a good trauma therapist. She knew one and...dada!!!! I've been working with this wonderful woman for 10 yrs and now have achieved integration, which I never thought I would.. I and so gratfull for what I have. Thanks you for your channel though and addressing this subject.
Oooh same. I hope I’m a better parent to my kids than what I received.
I have PTSD because of being bullied by my peers from age 4 to age 18. It was all emotional and mental abuse but it was daily. I don’t remember a lot of my childhood because of it.
Me too. I was abused only at home and not outside aka the blacksheep. So like you I forgot anything that had ever happened in that house, good or bad, I do have some memories but very little. I even forgot most of their abuse until recently when I finally figured out what it was. It's probably caused by the brain involuntarily checking out in order to protect us
I am so sorry to hear that.
@@jakubskyba7946 I have a few, but we don’t really hang out because of work. But it is very hard for me to make friends. Most of my female friends ended up being really toxic so our friendships ended. That’s very common with people who have had abusive relationships in the past; we tend to gravitate towards people we *think* are safe, but are very good at hiding it.
But therapy really helps.
@@mailulamukheli2272 I’ve been working with a therapist and we’ve discovered I have a dissociative disorder so it’s likely that’s why you also have memory loss; to hide that trauma. I hope we both can overcome it together. :)
Same, and Im sorry that happened to you. Im trying to renew my mind and view it as how did it happen for me rather than why to me
I have all four of the PTSD symptoms. Along with some of the other CPTSD symptoms, like depression, anxiety, low self-esteem, etc. But I didn't get them from one traumatic event. I got them from growing up in an abusive family.
LittleLulubee same with me, not one specific event but rather prolonged/chronic. I feel like it’s best addressed in the book The Complex PTSD Workbook, where the doctor writes that “C-PTSD typically arises as a result of ongoing stress or repeated traumatic events that occur during childhood and is sometimes referred to as developmental trauma disorder (DTD). Growing up afraid has ramifications on cognitive, emotional, and physical development that can persist into adulthood, until you have the necessary support to heal your wounds.”
same. I also worked with at risk youth. itput me in many dangerous situations. there are things that happened 3 years ago that I still think about and am embarrassed to talk about.
LittleLulubee I am just glad that people like me exist. People who grew us with abusive families. It's relieving in a strange way. Like I'm not alone.
LittleLulubee, that's how you get CPTSD. That's why it's complex because it's not one overwhelming experience, but lots of little ones that build up over time, like how water drops wear away rocks over time.
That's why they created a cptsd diagnosis.
I’m 62 and still haven’t gotten past the trauma. Totally fractured.
Sorry to hear this
Dr. Tracey Marks Nice😂😂😂😂😂
My grandma is fighting cancer for the second time. I’ve researched that stress can lead to chronic oxidative stress and be the cause of cancers and prevention from the body to be able to heal it. She had a very difficult childhood and deals with anxiety and stress now because of it, please take steps to cope with your trauma. You don’t deserve to be fractured. I know that there is hope, just don’t give up
I know I will never be totally "recovered" but I look at it like life is a constant work in progress. I go to therapy becuase it's pretty easy for me to get re-traumatized and "broken up" as well. A trope that makes sense of this for me: I equally don't mind putting pieces back together on a table, know I don't have glue, but that the table is safer (I built a foundation in therapy to help me put stuff back together after the fracture/traumas). I don't let just *anyone* in the room to kick my table (I watch my relationships and boundaries as best as I can, never perfectly tho work in progess in this area as well) and I have accepted I dont have the glue the rest of the journey/project /life. So I am technically broken but have worked to make myself whole again. And to feel safe.
But it DOES feel better to see the pieces fit back together and my life makes more sense than ever before.
I just look at it like the trope i go by, is the best outcome, considering the damage.
This doesnt mean that prices don't get scrambled again, and I dont get trauma based reactions...I panic, and I feel so exhausted to put it back yet again.
Sometimes, I feel like people notice that I'm broken more than back together, or I'm all alone in this. However, getting THIS far, regardless of scars forever, I just feel better knowing I can HAVE this in front of me, as good as it can be. Able to make sense of it at least, and again, acceptance is helpful.
As far as how we proceed after traumas, we do need a few trustworthy people in our life. All humans do. Mine know I struggle, but they are all safe and I know what I need, and what to look for in said friends now, and if what I have to offer is good too. With safer friends, it means pieces fit together left in the open is okay. I feel safe now in life. It's okay that I'm not glued together when I have those safer connections, and I let myself know that is okay to have that in place, when it wasn't afforded to me when I didn't have a chioce.
@@vicsalvo2231 that is a decent reply, actually.
Don't know what makes that funny to you?
She acknowledges her, and sometimes just hearing someone acknowledge your pain is a good thing.
this is so triggering that when she talks about cptsd I have a hard time following and have intrusive thoughts and have to go back a lot of times.
Wings Avenue me too
Yep. Pretty sure this is dissociation. I don't think she mentioned that. Alot of us have dissociation.
Jennifer Grove it is yes. But you get better at “staying” as you age and see the truth of it being named and becoming part of society. 🌈💞🦄
Me too. I ate during it too keep my brain focused.
Yeah I’m only a few minutes in and I’m already dissociating
I have lived 26 years and the thing I identify with more than anything I ever have, is cptsd. It has taken my life from me in so many ways. Thank you for speaking about it.
I can relate Rsven Blue. It has taken my life from me too.
Same 😢
I have CPSD. EMDR helped tremendously. I needed 30 sessions. It changed my brain and my life.
It's strange it did not help me at all.. it actually made my life worse. My brain had everything in compartments and he threw open too many doors at once. It was unbearable. It was almost abusive
What is emdr
I feel like that has been happing to me to many compartents opened at once so much prolonged trama in a short period of time. I dont think i will every be right again. All the weird help and different things has created such psychological damage and trama for me. I don't know where to even start
It didn’t help me. It did help when I was having the treatment, but as soon as I stopped, the benefits stopped also and I slipped back into CPTSD.
@@shilopolich2750 a type of therapy....based on rapid eye movement
WIth my PTSD, i was told that i must control my eye movement. When my eyes move back and forth (like when I’m on the bus ...looking outside the window)... my mind gets hyper and I start reliving my trauma. I actually have healed A LOT by controlling my eye movement and putting my eyes on something and thinking of the name and colour. Blue jacket, purple shoes, tall seat, tiny dog... etc. I get an noun+ adjective or verb and ground myself this way. Honestly, if this can help someone. I’m here to share. I managed to get better ...so it is possible. It may always be a part of me...but after 4 years of practice...the pain from the memories is less and i relieve those traumatic thoughts MUCH LESS.
this is very helpful! I notice when a traumatic memory comes up my eyes move back and fourth I'm gonna try doing what you said.
I think this might be why I freaked out so bad yesterday on the road
Rocking. I did it a lot growing up but it did soothe me.
Good Technique for distraction of energy from emotional/mental expressions that one does not want. That techniques has limited affects given it brain/mind distraction from emotional physical Stress expression. Past Traumatic (Fear base in body reaction) stress is created reaction in the body. The PTSD event left impression in the automatic response abilities we have for it has been created in the body that affects the mind/brain conscious creating reality. I take an energy point and blend it into Body and mind flow. You have understand the function of mind and body from energy point of view not just mental definition view points if want methods to affect change from negative to positives emotional flow which make humans stronger.
I say the mind function does two things one consume energy in thoughts base emotional expression base in words on ideas. The more negative words forming thoughts muscle tension in the body and stress in shoulders which locks the head emotional generator in loop of fear and hate. The other function of the mind is direct energy in thoughts and physical action for one can pick what muscles to tighten and be soft by directing core energy flow. The Mind NEVER produces energy only directs it and consumes in out side it self for all energy comes from the body center around the core. There is a rule from energy point of view the more you think the less you feel and the more you feel the less you think.
Example humans do in directing energy way from thought we can see and is excepted is when a person creates a Zen physical state through practice a person reaches state of Calmness. with is mental/physical calmness. That is Eastern development. We see this state in action during sports in the Wast ideas. When Basketball players is in the Zone state their actions just flow in the situations in the game NO thought just action base on practice again. It takes practice to be in the Zone and Zen physical mental states.
Why do I bring up both Zen and Zone physical emotional mental states is you cannot have PTSD. Humans create their Emotional physical reality in situations as an expression of their type of energy either negative, Neutral and positives then response.
Oh my, that would make sense why I experience alot of flashbacks when in the car.
Just in case it helps anyone else, a big step in recovery for me was learning that severe mental illness symptoms can also cause trauma. As a young child I had very frightening intrusive thoughts, hallucinations, and delusions, and because I had no reliable way to reality-check these, they represented to me a credible threat to my life/safety. These were normal to me and I dismissed their impact for a long time; I did not realize until this year, as an adult, that these were traumatic experiences and contributed to my c-ptsd.
And being hospitalised for said mental illnesses can also be extremely traumatic. Before I got restrained my cops + then later sectioned + neglected ip, I only ever had emotional flashbacks. Inpatient units literally made my pre-existing ptsd/cptsd so much worse
Oh wow me too! Thank you for posting this. I had really bad intrusive thoughts to the point where I was afraid I was posessed by a demon. When I reached out to the adults in my life, they tried to be nice at first, but when it wouldn't go away, they either brushed it off as nothing or called me a bad kid for having these thoughts. Still feels like there's a bully in here who enjoys watching me suffer. I'm in therapy now to cut down on the magical thinking, but it's still hard to undo such formative experiences.
Me too, my four year old self called it the ‘bigger/smaller thing’.
I'm very VERY surprised you didn't mention Domestic Violence in regards to C-PTSD.
I feel it was a big miss. A lot of people need information about what their experiencing and they are/were traumatized repeatedly as ADULTS not children. And the repeated trauma is from an abusive relationship.
I have complex PTSD from 30 plus years of physical abuse from three significant different relationships my first love, my ex husband and father of my daughter and finally the father of my son. My daughter has borderline personality disorder along with ADHD. anxiety, severe depression, dissociative episodes and I was physically violent towards me. I have had numerous head trauma from being repeatedly beaten over the head with object. It’s all three out of the four are still in my life you two having children with them and my own daughter. I developed hyper mania with pressured speech, flat affect, memory problems in ability to focus and retain information. My therapist used to videotape my sessions, and because I was unable to sit still either leg or hand was tapping and I got really annoyed any exercise that was designed to pay attention to myself, and stay in the moment, and still my body. I can go days without sleep and I avoid the crash and depression by any means necessary because I refuse to feel either sadness or fear because it’s so overwhelming and I hyper ventilate , cry uncontrollably and feel suicidal.
@@lynnmaholias2879- I did Nero feedback therapy where the hook up electrodes to your scalp and then send you the healthy brainwave patterns using a low voltage signal.
It worked as well as the cognitive processing therapy for me but it didn’t completely disrupt my life the way CPT did with having to remember the trauma and how it made me feel.
I have had every kind of trauma that there is. I have been burned, beaten, waterboarded, tortured, starved, sleep deprived, abused in relationships, neglected, verbally abused and I have been a firefight. I only say that to say that healing hurts but it is the good pain that we need to do. Don’t avoid healing because it hurts and stay stuck longer than you need to.
I also recommend deliverance ministry. That closed the doors that the devil was using to send more predators to try and take advantage of the fact that my doors were already kicked in and off of the hinges so anyone who was abusive could just walk right in and I was too broken to know how to stop them. I felt like I was less than human and deserved to be treated like less than an animal because of the way that I was treated. That’s impossible to come back from without God. See how evil put Jesus on a cross? It wants us up there too. Same evil, different day. But Christ defeated that evil by paying for the punishment we deserve. We don’t owe. Once that shackle is removed we can walk away from abuse and better yet we can see it coming and send it packing.
Yes... Most people I know that have what fit C-PTSD did not get if from childhood trauma but as adults... But psychology is not an exact science and it is riddled with errors and misconseptions and opinions, not science....
Just finished 9 months of EMDR for cPTSD , along with medications It is the first time in my life, well I really don't have the right words ... I never thought my life could be like this.
How’s life going so far? I’m starting my first session soon.
Which meds did you get on?
I was assaulted by a female family member when I was 12. Even with my meds I still have nightmares, I just don't wake up screaming and throwing punches. My relationships suffer cause I just can't bring myself to trust anyone. I avoid socializing just so I don't have the possibility of my trust being used against me again. There no actual point to this post other than its been stuck in my head for years and I just need to vent. Thanks!! Dr. Marks for the video's and a place to vent.
Im so sorry for what happened to you 😞 but it'll get better ❤ lots of love
I'm sorry for what happenned to you. You have a normal reaction to an abnormal situation. Take your time to improve your situation but know that you deserve to get better, have a good sleep, be able to create relationships with others and not always be on edge with them. I want to thanks you for trusting us and telling what storm inside you.
Wish you some calm.
you’re welcome I’m glad you feel comfortable sharing your experience. As you can see you’re not alone in these experiences as well as how it affects you.
Thank you for sharing...there was a point...you helped me gain additional understanding.😊
youre not alone Robert ; my experience is very similar and I clearly have a form of PTSD.
I want to be totally alone until I die.
I like the phrase "World shut your mouth"
I wish we could chat ; I can deal with other sufferers.
6:44 - 7:30 differenciation of CPTSD from PTSD
8:03 how to heal
8:17 medication: if necessary, see it as an aid to get calm enough to work through the trauma
8:33 EMDR : A very affective therapy form
Thank you
I have ptsd following sexual assault. I had EMDR and the best way to describe it for me is that the memory of one part of the attack went from being 3D to looking at a picture. Not sure that makes sense?? Anyway, it did help.
That's a great description. A flat pic is much less intense and all encompassing than a 3D image. I can see how the EMDR would do that. Thanks for sharing. 🙂
I think that's a great metaphor. EMDR helped me a lot after I witnessed the instant and traumatic death of a coworker. For me though, the auditory sensations were what affected me the most. Before treatment, I would hear an ambulance and just go right back to that moment.
Lizzy Rice I hear about EMDR what steps do I take to undergo the therapy? I’ve been to counseling and on medication but it hasn’t helped. I escaped a kidnapping at 11 years old half naked I still struggle with heartache of the event.
I would like to know the answer to your question as well.
My heart goes out to you. You have to be a very strong person and a fighter with the will to live to escape a kidnapping. My goodness. God bless your soul. You are a special person and obviously here for a reason. Stay strong Lovely.
Lizzy Rice, I started seeing a counselor about a month ago. He is recommending EMDR for me and we have started the steps to begin using it to help me deal with my childhood trauma.
Thank you so much.
I’m 40 years young and now I’m realizing , after journaling my childhood,
I am so fucked beyond measure.
I scored a 7 on the ACE survey.
I’ve had 16 traumatic event between age 8 to 16. From being raped to surviving a horrific bus accident but I walked out without a scratch or bruise ( lucky I was, but why me had been haunting me all these years. )
To being robbed at gun point at age 10, 16 and 25, to parents divorcing when I was 15 and the list goes on.
Have I thought of suicide , of course and I still do.
I fell as though I’m in the car but I’m not driving it, I’m in the back seat.
Jesus help me.
And only now I’m becoming aware of all the events.
I’m getting help though.
I’m lucky to be alive to this day.
I actually feel sometimes online videos like this help me understand myself better than actual therapists I have seen. Like you I wrote down a bunch of stuff and went "holy shit no wonder". I still see my therapists, but it feels like I am having to do homework and then pass it in to a teacher to get results or answers. I am contemplating changing my therapist if I continue to be dissatisfied in the next bunch of visits. I question if she has as much experience as she claims to with my particular issues.
I’m going to pray for you. So sorry. Peace and comfort.
only900more2go agreed, therapist chemistry and effectiveness is a thing. When a therapist is good and they help you finally understand/get over something, it’s like this weight finally is lifted. As for ineffective therapy it’s not that resourceful as it is just dumping your day/ pain into someone else, and sometimes that’s what you need, but sometimes it’s just you ruminating in the same shit.
But yeah, i find identifying your pain is empowering, because now you can have a better way to tackle it.
May God help you and bless you and may you share His love w others which is super healing!
I don't think I suffered as much, but suicide came up and got over it at 19, but now at 68 I am guilty of longing for death . It seems to be coming on slowly, so I have to pull myself out of this thought pattern and stop inviting death into my life.
I have CPTSD. Childhood issues from age 4 until 14, and by age 8 I was embarrassed to show any negative emotions apart from mild annoyance, as showing them made no difference and I unconsciously began to feel like I didn't deserve to have them acknowledged, accommodated or cared for.
When I was 15, I met who would turn out to be my best friend and first romantic / intimate partner. The friendship and subsequent relationship was quite explosive, not due to her, but due to me. I was extremely unstable, explosive, engaged in self harm and reckless behaviour, and was terribly verbally abusive, only to her. I only showed all those negative emotions I had in my head to her. Everyone else never saw - too embarrassing.
So later I was diagnosed with BPD, severe GAD, PDD, OCD and NPD. The anxiety was first, from age 4. Then the CPTSD began to set in. Then the OCD followed many years later by the PDD, and I honestly don't really know when the NPD arrived. I don't really care.
Anyway...I feel like my CPTSD occurred again from a new source of trauma between the age of 17 and 22. I lost both my beloved cats, all my grandparents, was sexually molested, and moved house for the first time ever during those years and again, hid all my grief. I did not adjust well to anything, though on the outside I was strong.
Again, from 2012 to 2013 I experienced a third PTSD-induced trauma which caused me to go from 135lbs down to 92lbs in a month from barely eating. The trauma situation reoccurred several times over the following 7 years, though not to the same extent. Each time I became more hyper sensitised, could not eat and could not cope. I started getting panic attacks a lot.
The last trauma that has left me with another source of PTSD occurred from 2016 to 2018. A loved one's chronic illness. Relentless terror of losing them. Endless researching and trying to gain control over their health. Only feeling safe when they were sleeping in my arms. It worsened dramatically from mid 2017 to early 2018, when the worst happened and I lost him. I can't remember anything at all of the week or so after. Literally not a thing. I still cry every single day.
I am not ok.
My uncle grabbed my butt when I was like 23 and said I was really filling out. And I mean like a good 10 seconds that I was just so shocked. I literally left and ran the red light getting off his street just from the plain stress and shock of it. I told my aunt, her husband, and she hmphed at me and made excuses like he was probably joking and then laughed. I told her it wasnt a joke and it made me uncomfortable. Just like the time I told her about a cousin assaulting me when I was young she told me never to tell anyone else because it would ruin HER daughter's happy memories of childhood or make my grandma depressed and he had killed himself so it doesnt matter he did things to a 4 or 5 year old.
I am so sorry that this happened to you
I'm sorry.
You must be experiencing shock traumatic syndrome. Which if does not go away can turn into PTSD. And violation anger human rights violation trust violation etc. Is all normal. Your parent protecting them over you that is wrong too. My abusive parents protected my abusers over me. Though I feel worse truama for putting me infront of family at 6 and blaming me for what was done to me. I was raped at 6 by a family member. They laugh n mock me. N she slapped me for crying.
I struggle with how the caregivers that was supposed to protect you are just as abusive and harmful breaking needs trust n all... this doubled your truama because your own mother also did not protect defend or comfort you. You deserved that.
I see writing this that they were not healthy people as parents. I felt wrong n the cause evil bad deserving ( I noticed I punish myself or hard on self or done things to myself or felt bad or like I was punished a lot if felt did wrong ... but then I had a connection memory to how I was treated that way even the day I was raped which continued too I was raped by abuser he said cause he was punishing me. I see why it relates now why I do these things ) anyway well those people were wrong. You were not wrong for feeling the way you did and turning to her and needing what you need.
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@@healingandgrowth-infp4677 you didn’t deserve what happened to you.. you were only a child. Send your inner child love and safety, sometimes that’s all we can do when those around us failed to protect and love us. Then people wonder why we live such difficult lives sometimes..
I missed out on butt grabbing. I got kicked and spanked at a much younger age. Mom's only help was to tell dad not to hit me in the head.
I was diagnosed with CPTSD since I was 6, living with it is extremely hard. I've never fully understood what the meaning of it was. Thanks for this video, it really helped
Having grown up in a dysfunctional household, CPTSD has probably been with me since the beginning. Emotional abuse, neglect, as well as separation anxiety. I’m pretty sure, notwithstanding genetic predisposition, this would definitely have played a major role in developing OCD in my early twenties.
Same here brother.
Thank you for clarifying the difference between CPTSD & PTSD....this information is priceless! It helps me to better understand what a family member is suffering from. Thanks again.
Thank you Dr. Marks for pinpointing the importance of psychotherapy for recovery. Years of therapy for CPTSD.
You're welcome Ana. 🙂 Thanks for watching.
@@DrTraceyMarks It's hard to live with Bipolar and CPTSD. Some days harder than others.
@@anamorales2583 yes, please do a video on suffering from both, Dr Marks.
Thank you for that video, it was most informative and crystal-clear in a neutral tone, I enjoyed it very much.
A book on PTSD I liked is "The Body keeps the Score" (van der Kolk) (in case some of you are interested in reading more about this). Germans might also read books of Luise Reddemann.
Things I would add:
1) PTSD and cPTSD usually will stay in the brain as "recent event" no matter how much time has passed, so it feels ever-present and sometimes like it just happened, which also gets stronger with flashbacks. This induces a lot of stress - even when nothing is happening at all (addressing the irritability). This is why some resort to let's say drugs, to dampen the stress.
2) cPTSD often comes with the inability to remember one's own childhood chronologically correct/well which correlates with the "fractured self".
Thank you for your kindness and intelligence, Dr. Marks!
You're welcome. Thank you for watching.
Dr.Marks makes to complex world of human behavior discernable. Her straight talk is most refreshing.
Thank you for this. I am crying right now. This almost confirmed my thoughts about being misdiagnosed with Bipolar 2 disorder. I knew I had some form of PTSD, but now I ca see how having both C-PTSD & PTSD can cause my misdiagnosis. Years of sexual assault as a child, two rapes as a young adult, and a truly traumatic religious experience... and I feel exactly that- fractured. Not to mention the other mental illnesses that have come because of this deep innate fracture. I have written endless journal entries since a little girl about dying early. I feel I will never escape this fate or the fracture deep within myself.
Though you though, for this desperately needed insight.
Chesley Lewis can you find another therapist that can correctly diagnose you? Those trauma's you mention are the cause of ptsd and cptsd. Find someone that can correctly work with you. It takes some searching for someone that can actually help. Good luck
Hello I wanted to express my heartfelt sympathy for such painful childhood and adulthood traumatic experiences. I am replying because your message resonates with me incredibly deeply. I have very similar experiences to yours with being a survivor of ongoing sexual trauma as well as multiple adult sexual violations and also having escaped narcissistic spiritual abuse from my involvement with being in a religious cult. I was diagnosed with many different types of mental illnesses including schizophrenia schizo-affective disorder bipolar and many others. Last year I entered animal integrated therapy with a trauma informed therapist and also equine assisted therapy and equine assisted learning. In my treatment with the trauma specialist I was informed that after almost three decades of being treated with very heavy antipsychotics I had been misdiagnosed and my current diagnosis is CPTSD along with PTSD. I cannot tell you the amazing transformation in a year of this type of treatment. At times I don't even recognize the strong capable and confident person that I have become. I've been able to titrate completely off of medication without any debilitating mental health symptoms. I'm even currently continuing my education and training to become a certified equine assisted therapy practitioner. I hope to actually specialize in working with neurodiverse families with the dynamic of NT neurotypical and ASD autism spectrum disorder. Please look into equine assisted therapy this was such a breakthrough and healing therapuetic modality and proved to be the most effective. I've learned tools in how successfully manage mood dysregulation and so much more through animal integrated therapy. I've found this treatment to be the most effective in almost thirty years of conventional mental health treatment that I have been involved in having been treated in three different countries including the United States UK and Ireland. It's given a chance to finally live the life that was stolen from me in childhood and adulthood. I can happily say that I'm finally thriving and not just surviving. There is hope my friend and all of this transformation happened in a little under a years treatment. Please reach out if you need help finding equine therapuetic services near you I'm happy to help you with finding a facility in your area. I've recently become aware due to my pursuing a career in equine assisted therapy, That even medicaid covers this treatment not many are aware of these services or have access to equine therapy but it's out there ❤️. Much success to you in your recovery and finding the stability and peace of mind and balance that is your rightfully yours.
I was diagnosed at 15 with PTSD. My mom didn’t want to scare me, so she hid it from me without allowing me to take the medication. I’m 22 now. I found this out a few months ago during a routine visit when they asked about my previous diagnosis and asked how my PTSD was. I was floored. But it made everything make so much sense. I really thought something was just terribly wrong with me. Random out burst of anger, throwing chairs and screaming to the top of my lungs just to try to release the anger. Memory loss. Feeling like death was near. I’m still experiencing these symptoms, and since I was 15, I’ve experienced more trauma. PTSD sucks.
Any chance that you could do a video comparison of CPTSD & BPD?
Joy Fullmer yes please it would be very helpful
Yes I would love to get that topic
@@Power_Verse_me too! I suffer from both. Please Dr. Tracey, do a video on this.🙂
Wait Borderline personality disorder, or bipolar depression/Manic Depressive? I hope all is well with you all🖤
There's one on Medcircle that's very good.
i wish you were my doctor just hearing you talk is a trigger for me because you actually understand many don't very informative and relative for me thank you
I have CPTSD. EMDR sent me to a freeze- collapsed state during many months. The first session was like a beautiful miracle and the second was pure hell. I changed therapist, but nothing would restore me and the 2nd therapist told me that it was better to pause, a circumstance that I felt like abandonment. It was really bad, I couldn't work, do anything, couldn't get out of the complete numbness. It is so ffff difficult to find a therapist who really knows what to do. Two more years passed until I found something else to be a bit of myself again. Self-havening and Somatic helped me better.
There's a great book by Pete Walker called "Complex PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving: A Guide and Map for Recovering from Childhood Trauma". I'm in the middle and it's already helped far beyond my expectations.
Great book indeed! I cried a lot while reading because finally, FINALLY I felt recognized, and I could understand a lot, everything became clearer. The CZcams channel Crappy Childhood Fairy does a great job as well. All that + Somatic + self-havening has been a game-changer for me. It is still difficult, but a huge lot less.
It is a wonderful book!
This book is changing my life! I’ve read so many self help books. I’ve learned a lot, but this one (maybe because of all of the learning and therapy I’ve had, idk) has really helped me see myself and my behaviors and know what to do.
Pete Walker was a definite level up game changer in my life!
I relate to the entire video except the DBT. I am grateful you mentioned this form of therapy because I will keep doing what ever is available to heal the C-PTSD as much as I possibly can. I’ve done every other form of therapy and it’s gotten me to this place where I finally am, strong enough to choose to live every morning I wake up still alive.
For 7 years, 24/7 every second of every day, I had to fight against my personal will, desires, wishes and needs to keep fighting to live a life that had given me no reason to keep living it.
I am one of the lucky survivors who has healed to the degree that I choose to live, on purpose now.
For all my C-PTSD and PTSD suffering brothers and sisters: Don’t stop fighting for your own healing, don’t quit yourself and don’t let anyone tell you who or what you are. You know exactly who and what you are, nobody else has the first clue. If you forget, just let the facts you’ve given life to tell you your truth.
You deserve your complete loyalty, support, empathy, kindness, compassion, understanding, unconditional self respect and love. Be very good to yourself because you deserve it. 🙏🤗
Wow! You literally listed off everything emotion I’ve been dealing with regarding cptsd
This is one of the best videos I have seen comparing PTSD vs C-PTSD. I have been in treatment for OCD for almost a year and feel like I need more help for PTSD. I'm taking Lamotrigine which has helped. But those moments where I feel helpless and fearful sometimes lead me to outbursts of anger and rage. Those moments hurt my relationships.
I have cptsd and think you did a great job describing it! I feel seen. Thank you for your videos, they have been helpful in my healing journey.
started crying mid-through this, thank you truly. I appreciate your knowledge. As a pre-med psych student i know i have to heal. in order to help others more proficiently
I love that you are so well spoken. It really helps me understand what you're saying. I find that i am so lost sometimes when people are speaking
So CPTSD can cause anger issues ... that explains a lot!
Thinking of my father here. He was born in what is now the Czech Republic in 1944. He has never given me any kind of emotional support.
Same here with the angry drunk narcissit dad. Czech grandma was an orphan at an early age and she couldn't show much love to her daughters, so mom remained aloof and we got no love. A drunk Indian from the Rez and mom let him abuse her till he died at 45.
The thing that's never mentioned is that, if one has been abused one's whole life, or since a very young age, and has had no love, then no therapy in the world can replicate the healing effects of love and it's impossible to attract or to give love, when you're totally spent inside. There needs to be some in-put into a person, to help them re-build. People who have never had love or who have not had it since they were very young are at a massive disadvantage in life.
fox my parents never once said they loved me. I never had a hug. I never had a good job. Everything was always wrong. Why are you stupid, and how ugly and unsuccessful I’ll always be. How the hell do you get out of that
@@Cabbage_Town I hear you my Dear.
Find good dependable friends, and probably good relatives from among the bunch. Create your own circle of loving people.
Stay "NO CONTACT" from your abusive family.
Practice daily meditation🧘♀️
Walk daily
Stay in tune with the nature
Read books and listen to videos on self healing
Listen to hypnosis audios to manifest love, happiness, success, abundance, etc.
The fact that you are here with your comment says you have potential to grow and be who you are. PLEASE look into yourself and become the "REAL YOU"💪💪. All the very best 👍🏼💞🌹
I feel that as well
You are very correct 👍😥
Marilyn monroe!!! *
Thank you for sharing this Dr. Marks. You're brilliant and a pleasure, a ray of hope.
I was diagnosed with both PTSD and later CPSTD but mine didn't start in childhood. My first experience was being sexually assaulted going into freshman year of college two days before classes began. I chose to stay at school but had to start counseling. Apart from that came numerous horrific and tragic automobile accidents. Everything "seemed" okay after the first one in the beginning (I had to learn how to walk again, was cut out of the car with the jaws of life, in a trauma unit for what seemed like years).
I developed many physical and emotional problems, worse with each accident (total was eight times being hit at high velocities). I've been in therapy (post undergrad) since 1998. One of my best, most effective therapist that I unfortunately lost was who figured it out. So as I had learned, my PTSD was "as if I were a soldier in a very perilous war on the front line" according to her and it resonated. It made sense according to (some) of my symptoms.
I could be wrong but it seems to me that CPSTD can arise although I and others had a great childhood - I was young when I went on to college and at 16/17 we are still developing. If our first traumatic experience was during teenage years, then (ten years later for me) continued with sheer mayhem/disasters followed by permanent damage and serious health issues, wouldn't it still be considered CPSTD?
mel0c0t0n8 I would imagine that if you suffered from continuous traumas , then yes. It’s like your mind never gets a chance to “catch up and heal” or you rarely feel a moment of stability between traumas.
This was the clearest and most helpful resource I've found on CPTSD vs PTSD so far, thank you!
I agree and now I know I have CPTSD. it helps to differentiate between the two. I hope the diagnostic book will take notice of the this and put a chapter on it some day. It needs to be addressed.
Thank you Dr Tracey. For years I've been dealing with Anxiety/Depression coming from an abusive dysfunctional family but lately have been thinking it is a little more than the previously mentioned problems and pointing more to PTSD and watching this vid really makes me think it is!
this is my second time trying to watch this, the first time caused me to cry very hard and the second time I got to @9:04. i will eventually get through it. i'm a trauma survivor but i haven't done the work yet. thank you for your videos Dr. Marks
Thank you Dr Marks. I suffer with Complex PTSD since 1972. As you stated, multiple decades long abuses and neglect, which created and mimic various disorders based in the DSM. I finally began receiving proper treatment in 2009. This is a horrific life. I utilize a variety of treatments to navigate and heal the layers of damage established. Once again, I’m back at my rock-bottom, attempting to recover an existence for myself. Your generalized points are strong and obviously correct. The words “Thank You” seem so inadequate.
Look up ☝️☝️that handle, he’s got the best tips and helps. I’ve microdosed shrooms for about 6 months now and it has really helped my CPTSD, anxiety and depression and I’ll recommend it for anyone.🙏🏻🙏
Thank you so much for clarifying this in such simple terms: what you do-besides treatment & therapy-is a service to Humanity!
Yea. I finally figured out that I have CPTSD myself. Therapists over the years kept misdiagnosing me. What you r describing fits perfectly with me. I'm 48 now so it took many decades of my life to finally hear from psych expert something I knew all alone and was never validated. That made me not seek help and do it mostly on my own. I also must add that mental disorders all stem from trauma, including NPD, and BPD, and Bipolar,etc. It is time for the field of psychology to acknowledge that. I also hope there comes a time where all these labeling diagnoses will be abandoned and u just treat human beings as human beings.
Not all disorders come from trauma, many can be genetic like bipolar, schizophrenia, OCD, depression, etc. Some can come from trauma, but that's not the only cause of many mental illnesses.
Marina, sorry but parts of this is absolutely wrong. Sometimes, in FACT, BPD is not routed in truama..it true that most of the time it is….but bi polar is NOT based in truama at all. Where did you get that information???
NPD is not necessarily rooted in trauma
What if you had a traumatic experience as a child and had to pretend it never happened your whole life? I feel like a lot of people had it happen where they had to keep it a secret. It's buried, but still there for many years effecting your life. Is this still a form of PTSD?
I had to do that.. we lived in the Pretend my parents are perfect world anything else or conversations would not be tolerated. They were very abusive. I don't know what happened at 4 but i will never know. Deep dark family secrets. All i remember is being in a hospital and refused to get anesthetized i remember not trusting anyone or either parent. Terrible life to live in. Woke up during that surgery. Was bullied, stonewalled, and thrown across rooms. Lived in constant fear of 2 evil Narcissists. Left at 17. Didn't realize what they did to me until 45 after 3 failed marriages. The couselour heard my mom call me.. and he said forget the men, there is your Narcissist! It was a huge shift in my life and went no contact.
It is. I did for years amd then ended up on meth to self medicate. Ive been clean for 20 years. Since then I have managed to turn life around. I didnt get diagnosed bipolar and cptsd until much later. Now I work for an attorney and volunteer with a fire dept.
@@TinasCrazyLife wow. Your story is inspiring. If no one has told you, I’m proud of you. You’re living proof that people like us can and will get through it, whether we have to fight by tooth and nail we deserve a better life for ourselves enough to give it to ourselves.
@@sammywildflower1617 thank you soo much. That means a lot to me
Me too
Thank you for explaining this difference and noting that medication is only one potential "treatment" for some people. It's great to see other healing channels discussed!
Hi Dr. Marks. I like to start by saying that you’re the most informative and articulate psychiatrist I’ve ever listened to in my life. I just watched this video on my smart tv a couple of minutes. Thank you for explaining an adult lifetime of not what my disorder is categorized under. I’m a Veteran but not a combat vet. I was seeking help in the mental health care system for almost 20 years and no one has been able to help me 😢. But thanks to you 🙏🏾 I’ve been getting clarity on instabilities. I’m C-PTSD, who’s had a very traumatic childhood and no one cares especially my family. From being molested at 6 years old, my brother setting me on fire at 10, and being hit by a car at 12 just to name a few. I’m buying your book on Amazon to see if I’m Bipolar. I’m so grateful for you I want to cry, finally. Next up is getting a provider on your website when I’m able to afford it. Thank you for helping me to heal🌞🤗.
Dr, I have ptsd and bipolar. This has wreaked havoc on my life over the last 6 years. I feel I have been doing better lately with the ptsd, but I still get triggered and still have nightmares. When this happens it impacts the bipolar as well. I feel suicidal and feel myself slipping into a depressive state, and it’s Christmas!!! I have four beautiful children and a supportive friends. No one understands what having both does to you.
I am trying desperately to pull myself together but when the ptsd gets triggered it kinda sets off a reaction in my brain of panic, racing thoughts, and I get physically ill as well.
I have recently started adding natural supplements to my daily medication.. to help because I don’t know what else to do.
I have been trying desperately to pull myself together over the years, but I keep struggling.
You are not alone with going through this experience. I have cPTSD and bipolar as well, and I agree that they feed off each other in a loop when it gets bad. I do have some understanding of your struggle, and how messed up it can get. How exhausting day to day can be when you're constantly on guard about even the smallest stuff.
My heart goes out to you in your struggles, and I hope that you find something to help you through. It is good to hear that you have supportive friends around you. I hope that this allows you to have time to do little things for yourself, to be able to care for yourself when you can.
I would like to be of help if I can and offer whatever I have learned through trial and error. You may already know some of these things, or not, I'm not certain. I do apologise if I sound like I'm repeating something you have already heard.
What I can suggest is that getting your limbic system (the fight or flight) calmed down to manageable, is really key to limiting the impact of triggers. That does take time, and it does take focussed effort, which can bring a lot of frustration, but getting there is like being able to take a rest after a long journey.
Keeping track of how situations trigger you, what your response is/was, and how you felt after, can be helpful. It means you can predict potential triggers more accurately, and prepare for them. For me, that took some of the anxiety out of managing day to day stuff. Made me feel like I had some control over the fear and panic I feel. Made me feel a bit safer being out in the world too, which helped to calm my nervous system, and keep it calm for longer spells.
Training your brain with certain cues can help too. Certain smells can help, if you train your brain to associate them with calm. I found music to be really helpful for this. I found maybe half a dozen songs that I really liked, and played often when I was calm, and trained my brain to respond to being calm at the sound of those songs. It was easiest to train my brain to associate calm with the songs, by having a decent pair of headphones, preferably ones that reduce outside noise. I still keep those songs on my phone, on my laptop, anywhere conveniently accessible, years later. Along with a good pair of headphones, they have saved me many times, especially on public transport, or in crowds, where I can feel my panic get out of control.
I truly hope that there is something helpful here for you and that it offers you some comfort.
I watched this twice. Thank you, Dr. Marks!!🧡🧡 Are there different levels of acuity for PTSD? I have been diagnosed with it and find that a number of my sleeping issues, (e.g., insomnia, night terrors, urinary urge incontinence, sleep talking, sleep walking, sleep paralysis and hallucinations, and narcolepsy) all seem to stem from the PTSD.
I was abused as a child emotionally and physically. It was routine and I accepted it as "normal" and "deserved." In my late teens I was date raped at a party. I did not fight it after a certain point so as to avoid injury and I did not tell ANYONE. A year later I was the victim of a random attack from three strangers on the street where I was repeatedly raped, assaulted, choked, and left for dead. Six weeks in the hospital brought the bruises down and mended my many broken bones. They were apprehended and sentenced. Speech therapy taught me to speak again. Three years later a stalker broke into my home and assaulted me but police arrived before much damage beyond a broken nose could occur. I did not file charges bc I thought he would get off with nothing and this would make him angrier. I got a protective order instead. In my late 20s I was robbed after getting off a bus after work. I was robbed at gunpoint, and I still remember the feel of metal against my cheek to this day. I filed charges but they were never found and my things were never recovered (I even had to give them my shoes!!!) I have had other things occur that most people would consider harrowing, but I don't mean to write a novel and I am certainly not a victim; I am a survivor and an optimist. I still believe most people to be good. I just want to know, if you have multiple experiences as I've sketched here, is it PTSD or something else? My therapist and I do CBT and are working on healing my inner child. I trust her to know what's right and it is helping, though the healing is hard work. It has given me hope where I had none. Your videos are equally soothing and informative. Thank you so much!!!
Likely to be CPTSD (Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder). Try exploring this version of PTSD and see if you think it fits for you. I’d say it does, considering you’ve had repeated life-threatening traumas over the span of your lifetime.
@@Elya08 Thanks Kayla I will.
Thank you for your clear explanation of PTSD and CPTSD. This gives me some hope for some change after too many decades of self destruction and not understanding why. Thank you.
I feel you 😞😢
Thank you for generalizing the part of PTSD that addresses medical catastrophes that come on very suddenly and out of nowhere. For the longest time, I've felt like my cause of PTSD was considered as invalid because most psychiatrists would only talk about it stemming from physical or sexual abuse, violence, or a traumatic event such as a car accident, but never anything outside of that such as a sudden and unexpected seizure that I was conscious for the first few seconds of. I, still to this day, struggle with trying to not actively avoid things that remind me of the seizure I had, such as where I had it along with what happened to be near me when I had it. It's genuinely a big struggle, and it's been over three years. Thank you for this video. It helped reassure me that my PTSD is valid even if its cause is not considered as common.
I have PTSD due to childhood rape, abuse, neglected, beaten etc. EBT has been helpful in my therapy. I'm sad, scared, forgetful, etc. I have a Service Animal who helps me live. I also have OCD i.e. Hair pulling, nail ripping and I'm not aware of it as it is happening, this is when my Service Dog stops me. Nightmares that are lucid. I'm your new subscriber and Thank you for your time. Peace.
For some reason it’s just really helpful to hear people talk about their experience with PTSD. I witnessed a suicide years ago, and while I have healed a lot, the lingering effects still trouble me years later.
This made me cry and smile. I’ve been researching things on my Complex PTSD. And it’s videos like this that make me feel like I can still function whilst still having this diagnosis.
I have ptsd from my daughter dying in my arms. I always feel I’ll lose another child. The smallest things put me into a episode
Oh my gosh… I’m so sorry for your loss. 😭 After I miscarried my second child, I felt like my third would die any second, so I can relate a lot to this, even though my pregnancy was so early I didn’t find out I was pregnant again until I miscarried.
There is no grief like losing a child… 😭*internet hugs*
I have C-PTSD, and I'm in yet another abusive relationship. :-/ I hate this disability.
Myishen Haines please try your hardest to find the strength to leave. put you first. I believe in you.
Celibacy is a godsend for me
Been there and I personally realized that of I was ever going to find my own safety I needed to stop dating 100% and focus on me for a long while. It's been almost 5 yrs and I am safer then I have been my entire life.
I won't parrot the common statements everyone always says but I want you to know that I care about you. I may not know you but I do, I am you and I hope you find one thing that makes you smile today 💜
Believe me i've been there, it's a product of being too nice to people and ignoring warning signs. Best thing you can do is realize whose weighing you down and cut them out, never be forgiving, never think to yourself "but they can change, maybe its not so bad, i'll ignore it".
Please talk to someone. A friend, a therapist, both. Tell them you want out of the relationship and need help. You don't have to this alone and you deserve help!
Wishing you all the best
In my 40s O was diagnosed with cptsd. My life was a mess. I couldn't recall anything was diagnosed with adhd in my 30s. With the help of a good psychologist and about 5 years of therapy I have come along way. It was hard work but the alternative was so dark. Now I reflect on and make peace with the consequences of going undiagnosed for years. My life is good and I feel well, thankfully I can go forward and live well. Thanks for sharing such useful information!
That brother should be jail or some punishment. That's disgusting.
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Thanks Dr. Marks! This was really helpful. I have been diagnosed in the past with BPD, but my psychologist believe I fit more of the criterion for either PTSD and/or CPTSD from years of neglect and abuse of every kind including sexual exploitation. I have a lot of shame still about it and am unable to believe I am a sexual abuse survivor although, I was in a therapy group that my therapist ran and asked me to join that was for sexual abuse trauma. I am almost 55 and still have a long way to go and in fact when I meet with her next week, I will discuss this with her. I also suffer from debilitating anxiety and major depression and cannot work. I have moments of joy, however most days I struggle with depression even though I am medicated. I have done DBT and I review my skills in a FB private group that has been really useful. I am an artist and have been successful in the past and hope to be again. Many thanks for this video.
I grew up being domestically abused since the age of 6 and I’ve had to do a lot of work on myself bc I couldn’t reach for help from my parents. I’m still recognizing certain events as traumatic. Thank you for these amazing videos!
This chic is amazing and well spoken. Her approach is very easy to listen to. Love the way she explains things.
Can years of being mentally abused by an older sibling be a cause of CPTSD? I sometimes wonder if this has caused me to have many of the symptoms discussed in the video. As always, thanks for posting such helpful videos.
You’re welcome and Yes it can. The CPTSD is something that normally starts from early negative exposure.
Yes
@@DrTraceyMarks I agree completely. Mine definitely started in childhood.
Yes it sure can
I’ve experienced this too, my family have made me feel like what I went through wasn’t traumatic enough :(
I love the way you express yourself Doctor ❤️. Very intelligent woman.
Around 6 months ago I saw this video and it made me realise I think I’ve been experiencing CPTSD since I was young as I have always had memories of an experience where I was SA’d as a young child and since then experienced some other SA’s as a teenager. As a child I had periods of depression and dpdr. I was anxious had nightmares of someone doing something to me, was afraid of strangers angry, switching from either hyper to hypo sexual. I’ve had therapy for years as a mentally ill child but Thanks to this video I’m now working on fixing other things I started to develop as a teenager or overlooked like covering up excessively, or certain ways I act in relationships. I just did not know this was a thing because I had a rudimentary and stereotypical view of PTSD of flashbacks and stuff and did not realise it could extend into these other aspects of yourself.
This is such an important informative video that I come back to many times when I realise I’m experiencing my low lows of depression again and get so lost but hearing you’re helpful insights and unbiased always brings me back to a grounding point so thank you so much for your uploads! Wishing you all the best
New to this channel, love the insights and knowledge of Dr. Marks
Wow, I stumbled on your channel for the first time tonight, such rich and amazing content! Thank you for sharing this!
You're welcome. I'm glad you found me.
Hee. Terminal cancer survivor, woken up in the middle of a surgery, abusive parents, at age 5 beat up my dad to save my mom's life, caregiver to her and grandma, being operated on 7 times without anesthetics or anything else. Bullied by mom for decades, bullied at school, at work...
I have both and a lot more.
I have all the symptoms.
I deeply appreciate how clearly you presented the desperately needed information in this video. Thank you.
I am a 51 year old African American man. I am an US Army combat veteran with multiple deployments to both Iraq and Afghanistan. I have been diagnosed with PTSD and TBI (from concussions). Is there a difference between this type of PTSD and that which doesn’t stem from war? Could you please make another video discussing PTSD for combat veterans?
My dad was a ww2 vet. Normandy Beach included . He had what they then called shell shock. He had me late in life and boy oh boy he passed it on .
Dr. Marks, I've just finished watching several of your videos. Thank you so much. There is an incredible amount of valuable information packed into them. Have you thought of videos about bonding/attachment issues?
At 3 years old I found my father who had committed suicide... this video explains why all the therapy has never worked.. I've been asking for emdr for years, never got it yet... it is sooooo hard to find help.. I've done so much, therapy, yoga, neurofeedback training, drugs.. you name it.. 35 years later I can't even talk about my father without breaking down.. still... the struggle is real.
I have a mild case of CPTSD because of things that happened to me as a child. I just discovered this information recently and it explains a lot of my life. I hold it together most of the time. Sometimes I make terrible decisions and find ways to ruin friendships. In the past, therapy and meds have had minimal success.
I was in a violent car accident, watched my Dad die, cousins face get sliced up, my therapists and counselors all said they don't think I have ptsd because I don't ever re-live the crash or dream about it, and I'm not afraid to be in cars in fact I'm an aggressive driver. But I experience all the other symptoms. I recently found info saying ptsd patients that experienced a car crash can become aggressive drivers, and never think about the incident. I also experienced neglect and emotional abuse as a child, maybe I should get re evaluated.
You need a better therapist.
It’s so hard to find a therapist. I’ve been searching for one for almost two years...
HL Watts can totally relate. My former psychologist rejected me and I’m still trying to cope with that.
I found one that is why I have PTSD, she sold my information and was part of a cult.
I've been looking for help for over 40 years. Still nothing.
I've been looking for 9 years! I've pretty much given up.
After being the victim of a violent crime I have PTSD, 14 years of counseling and now I feel I have CPTSD as things have gotten worse. I cover mirrors (as I can’t stand to look at myself) I find I wander around my house unable to stay with one task, avoid public places and crowds (can’t go to church anymore) I have a very short fuse and have burned bridges as a result, and I JUST CANT GET OUT OF MY HEAD !!!!! I feel I’m going crazy and my husband is completely lost on how to help. I’d rather die (and hope for peace) than live this life.
New subscriber here. Please provide more info on C-PTSD. This was great info, but more so for PTSD. I’ll look to see if you have other vids that go more in depth, but if not then hopefully you’ll see this and make some ❤
I can’t believe that Complex-PTSD STILL hasn’t made it into the DSM
I had no idea neglect can cause cPTSD. I'm pretty sure I've had that and Borderline since childhood... Then 5 years ago, some psycho ran me off the road and then assaulted me, which gave me normal PTSD to where I rarely left the house until around summer of last year...
I should write a book or something, my life is wack.
It's actually not that hard to understand how neglect can cause it. Remember that for PTSD you have you have life threatening situations. An infant on its own cannot survive, it needs looking after. If no one does that (if they neglect the child), it's not unreasonable for the child to fear for its life.
5:15 Since the trauma, I've had a strong belief that I will be killed in a hate crime. I never made the connection until now. Thank you. Now I can know to bring it up.
You are so concise about terms, s/s, and treatments. Thank you.
When you said "negative thoughts, feel like you won't live very long" I had to pause. I have this feeling all the time but no one else has ever said it, and when I mentioned it to my partner he thinks it's weird.
I've been told have PTSD before so makes sense.
“Feeling safe in your own arms. “
Is usually taught by your parents
We call it “self esteem.”
In my experience, I accidentally almost “cured” myself without realizing it and the way I did it was solitude and being in a safe space or “sanctuary”
re-learning to hear my own inner voice. The inner voice is your true self the one that tells you’re true limitations, your true boundaries, free of being violated by others. When you find your own voice is when you can also stand up for yourself. After all, that’s what growing up is, finding your own voice and speaking your truth in the face of confrontation....: Your men’s body and spirit then feel “safe” in your arms or your “vessel”....My problem was that I fell back into the habits of losing my voice and shutting my mouth and gradually shrinking back down into a child’s that always does what others want him to do.
Awesome comment! 🙌
I am going to hold your words in high esteem because it helped me get over my "trauma hump" 💃💃
Thank you so much, it's exactly what I needed! 💙💚❤️
Stay strong! 🙏
The first thing I would do, is to change the name from "Un Successful" to "Successful". This will be where I start, looking at myself being successful and becoming SUCCESSFUL 💪💪All the Best💞🌹👍🏼
Compliance a a conditioned survival strategy.
Compliance as a conditioned survival strategy.
Excellent breakdown. Something helpful to show loved ones to explain the differences. Thank you for taking the time to put this together. Right on the money with EMDR therapy. Great job
Thank you Andy! 😊
I have been diagnosed with CPTSD. I am 53 and it's getting on top of me! I find myself just comparing my life to others. That grew up in healthy families, having backup and a soft place to fall. I have been on my own since 16. I had two children to a narrasistic person and his family. He used my trauma against me every day for 14 years. I left and they took everything. My daughter sided with him because they offered her a freedom to do what ever she wanted! I cannot work because of work place bullying, I am not able to deal. In the world today narrasisim is applauded and seems to be valued!
Thank you for sharing this content and I am grateful finding you on CZcams also the way you are explaining is great to understand for many who are not in your great valuable field of work that you do. I appreciate have a such human and this experience in my journey God bless you and your family…🙏🙏🙏
Yes I will tell you my story of my cptsd. I was 6 years old when i was told by doctors i have adhd. My parents at 6 years old started me on a mass treatment with medication of it. Everyday I was give a dose at morning time also at lunch in school my nurse would give me another dose. Then when i came home. From the very start i had bad effects off the meds. On a daily basis i would feel what i would call spiders running down my arms. I would always be very paranoid all the time thinking there were spiders all around me. I would jump out of my chair sometimes cause I though spiders were running down my arm then look down and see nothing on my arms or sometimes my legs. I would go back to normal after knowing it was my medication. My mom told me that I had to just live with that effect. I got off the adhd med at around 12. That's when the major truma happened. I was in my house right after school both my parents worked. There were I know about 6 or 8 kids knocking at my door. I know them and hung out with them for a little bit before this happened. I knew something was not right and I as the door was opened told them that they could come in. I tried to shut the door by one of the kids named Larry troutman put his foot between the door and all of them started pushing it open. I stood my ground until my strength gave up from all of them pushing the door open. I ran into my kitchen to get a knife and chase them out with it. Then once I got any know I could grab. Larry troutman had a buck knife out and he shook his head while waving the knife in his hands. Then a girl named misty William decker grabbed the knife I had in my hands. I knew there was no way of fighting all of them also knifes were out I could nothing for totally fear of being stabbed to death by all of them. Then misty William deck kiss me on the cheek and took my head and slammed it against the wall. Then put the knife against my throat so close afraid to me my knife for fear of getting cut. Then she said beg for your life. She had my hair in her hands and I begged for I could only tell 10 minutes or more. Then a girl that grew up on inspiration street next to mine on Crockett tries to burn me with a torch and also burned some plants that were fake. Then milli or milly she went by. Held the a knife up against my throat and I had to beg for my life for another 10 or more minutes. Then I went up stairs to try to make sure that my n64 I saved up for a while and bought myself. Then they followed me up all of them were all over my house. Up in my room I had a swiss army knife new given to me by my great grandfather. I thought I had to do something so I went into the drawing by misty william decker saw that I was going for it and she took the knife out and I knew I couldn't fight back. Then again she put the knife up against my throat and again I had to beg for my life for 10 or more minutes then she took the knife off me. Then they ran out. They took some of my mom's jewelry and other stuff from there room. They told me before they left if I told anyone they would burn my house down with my dogs mom and dad at night. So when my mom called the police I couldnt really talk or say anything I was so so scared they were going to burn my house down. The cop just saw I had a red mark on my throat from so many times the knife was up close to it. After I got enough balls up to tell my mom. I told her and she said it was my fault for everything. She didn't give one shit about what happened and never cared even after that. Then the same year I was over what I thought were good people I had a friend I knew for 2 years before this happened. a kid named Eric Murphy took out small hand gun and then my friend that I knew named Allen whitney curren held my shoulders so I wouldn't move. The Eric Murphy shot a bullet and I move my foot and it went through the floor
Then a fat ass black kid they called heavy d. It was at his house behind my house in the apartment s behind my house. Then eric Murphy held the gun out and they told me I was there slave and made me clean up three trash bags of trash in the house at gun point. I knew if i didn't get out of the house they would probably shoot me. So i told them and finally convinced them to let me go outside and through away the trash. Once I was outside I ran away from them and I went to the first house I could see someone was home. Slammed on there down until a kid came they and I told the kid can I please talk to your dad he came I asked the dad can you please walk me home there are kids that have a gun trying to kill me. I went home and never told anyone. I knew that my parents didn't give a shit so never told anyone. That's just the truma till 12. Also by 12 and 13 I have been hospitalized. Cause at that age I was going to kill myself. The other kids that were with misty William decker I only remember those three the truma for some reason it's just blocked. so that is just up to 12 there has been a lot of other horrible things that have happened it would be too long to even tell those.
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I so sorry that happened to you.
I hope you find someone who can help you with these memories and feelings.
You deserve it.
Wondering if someone had cPTSD from childhood abuse, and later in life went through events that qualified them for a PTSD diagnosis, and how the cPTSD would possibly have made the adult PTSD more likely to occur?
Great question. Exactly what i was wondering. i am pretty sure i have both.
I am currently writing a novel about helping children who suffer from sexual abuse and PTSD, thank you for those useful information, much appreciated.
As a survivor of sexual and psychological abuse, my advice is Don't let an event define your reality, you are not your diagnosis, it isn't your fault there are hurt people bleeding on innocent ones, as a therapy I used to blast my stereo to the loudest Nirvana songs, jumping and kicking to release my anger and the hate deposited in my body for the sexual abuse I encounter since i was about 9 years old, Journaling to release those intruding thoughts also work. In my country psychology treatment is looked like a weakness that's why I learned to research outside my language and cultural background for knowledgeable professionals that truly understand what I'm experiencing, so I thank you for your work on this video.
I'd love a video on CPTSD and memory loss. I've read a bit about it but it's still so confusing and I feel so invalid not knowing why I have all these symptoms and fear.
Yes, that would make a good video too.
Generally speaking, repressed memories aren't a real thing. The brain doesn't really work like that. Most likely, you were either traumatized at an early age when you were developmentally deciding whether the world is by and large safe and secure or dangerous and insecure. Any memories from that age tend to be extremely fragile no matter how a person's experience was.
The other possible scenario is that those particular memories were misfiled in some fashion. That also happens where somebody has a traumatic event and for some reason represses the emotional component of the event by downplaying it's significance.
But, speaking as an educator, once a memory is formed, it's there, when you think you've learned something and it's not there when you need it, you're either stressed and not accessing all of your brain, it wasn't transferred into long term memory or it wasn't stored where you thought it was stored.
I suppose, it also could have been a series of relatively minor events that you haven't connected together. That's one of the big differences, PTSD really needs a specific event to kick it off diagnostically.
EDIT: there are also some medications that mess with memory preventing memory formation. These are usually used in surgery, but there's a few out there that have other uses that may have some negative impact on memory formation.
Can you have both cptsd and ptsd I can’t function socially because of my childhood and I get flash backs to ones pacific thing my dad did
What I’ve learned is that PTSD is a diagnosis in the DSM-5 but CPTSD is not which is why people with complex trauma are diagnosed with PTSD, which is because CPTSD isn’t in the DSM-5 because complex trauma is one of the qualifying trauma to get diagnosed with PTSD which is why CPTSD isn’t a diagnosis, I’m not a doctor so you should definitely talk to one and get help if you can
When she said some people don’t think of their experience as bad enough so it doesn’t count…… I felt that
I've been diagnosed with CPTSD. As far as symptoms go - Avoidance, Negative Thoughts and anger are mine.
My trauma - being treated by others as less than. I got bullied in school, my husband was not good at dealing with his own emotional crap and I've had significant blowback from my ASD son.
What I really need is to not be othered. That shouldn't be too much to ask for.
I know this is off the subject but no one seems to talk about epilepsy in general. Such as focal sez and how they mimic mental illnus most people are Soo in the dark about this condition. People think you swallow your tongue and flop around and go on with life. That's the least of it. I have focal sez. I talk to people they have no idea you can sleep walk. Black out and someone could be talking to me but nonething makes scince. See things that are not there. Erratic behavior. Insomnia, depression, can't talk at times, blurry vision, extremely weak, de ju Vue, also the opposite of de ju Vue, falling, crying, vivid dreams, racing thought, rare and embarrassing behavior, and much more. My PC doctor and N. Doctor don't understand. Especially someone like me who has had a crominimy, tumour removed. Please bring this to light soon🙂 no one understands. I will explain more if you want more info. By the way I lived with someone with ADHD and bipolar mixed very nice and evil at the same time that gave me a lot of sez. When we broke up I have Soo much less. Thanks for all the info. I do like your content. I had to stop driving because flashing lights different designs, and anxiety all plays into it. A sezuire itself is the easy part EPILEPSY is the hard part
My cousin just had a diagnosis of epilepsy. I do not think that many of the behaviors you describe were linked to the disease, thank you for the info I am going to inform myself a little more then propose to him to talk to his doctor about it.