Dave Rudabaugh - Old West Outlaw
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- Arkansas Dave Rudabaugh was an old west outlaw who some say taught Doc Holliday how to shoot in addition to being the only man that Billy The Kid ever feared. He was hunted by Wyatt Earp and arrested by both Bat Masterson AND Pat Garrett. Ran with the Dodge City Gang of Las Vegas, NM, rode with Billy The Kid, and was never held accountable for his many crimes. So why the hell isn't this Rudabaugh more well known? Find out all about Arkansas Dave on this newest episode of Bloody Beaver Podcast!
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Check out Corey Recko's video on the bogus photos of Arkansas Dave!
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Also check out Dan Buck's article Adventures In Wonderland: Identifying Old West Photos to learn more about all the bogus pics of gunfighters and old west figures out there.
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Intro and Outro music by Manuel Ibanez Arnal.
“Did you guys see the size of that chicken?”
“We’re in the spirit world asshole, they caint see us!”
Lol as I read this I heard it in the voice of em in "spirit world" then Chavez screamin
The comment about the chicken was made by dirty Steve Stephens from young guns 1. Arkansas Dave was in young guns 2.
"God less heathens"
“Hey dog… dog… Did YOU see the size of that chicken???”
Never ever apologize for quoting Young Guns good sir. Ever!
Lmao
Or Tombstone
Young Guns was the only reason I looked up Dave Rudabaugh.
The movie Young Guns is pure fiction. It may be entertaining, but it has nothing to do with the reality of the story or the bios of the Regulators.
@@stevemccarty6384 True, but Emilio brought Billy The Kid to life. Rudahaugh never rode with Billy. Another Rudahaugh is rumored to have, however.
Yeah but this is getting long and drawn out and off topic.
@@wesleycook7687 source? That is was a different rudabaugh. Never heard that before, I’m interested in looking into it
Cocka diddle god damn doo
In all fairness that is a really badass soundtrack.
Dave is your favorite outlaws favorite outlaw. Dudes been around with everyone.
I'm related to this guy. It's still a tradition in the family to name the first born son Dave. My great uncle was the last Dave we knew about. Apparently the name Rudabaugh is so rare that every Rudabaugh is related enough that they know not to breed with eachother. I really hope no one tried.
Same thing happens with my surname seems a few generations ago there was some argument (over what no one knows) even 2nd and 3rd cousins now have never met nor spoke to each other. However all are decendants of 1 man who arrived here from the Prussian empire in 1736. My family been here longer than the Country's been a country. 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
Since I found and identified my (actually Sallie Chisum's) photo of Dirty Dave several others have turned up identified as Dave. Those pictures were identified at least in part by comparing them to mine. Now, we most likely know what Rudabaugh looked like and I am proud to be able to help historians in that regard. From the evidence in the photos of Dave, it can be deduced that he and Billie were pretty good friends. Both men must have shared a sense of humor.
I haven't seen the whole video yet if I repeat something in the video I apologize. Dave was known as dirty Dave rudabaugh. He was one that took a bathroom every time it rained. It was said you could smell him before you saw him. But this was the wild west when they had a public washbin ate the edge of town every body used it and it was rarely changed. Wyatt used it as well.
I probably should send you a one off copy of Dave's picture.
do you have giant ears?
"I'm glad I never killed you Steve"
😂
You talk like you are on drugs or crackhead
@Billey Winn many nights, many nights my friend 😎🤠 classic
You’re alright Chavez
@@earlleasurejr8771 Quoting lines from Young Guns the movie
I did not realize he was even a real guy! For the record, YG2 was one of my favorite movies at the time as well. "You want your knife back?"
I really enjoyed this episode.
Once again…solid (as it can be), honestly told with the witty and also informative info sprinkled in for good measure.
Cheers. 🇨🇦
Thanks buddy
The soundtrack for Young Guns 2 with one of my favorite albums of all time even though I don't have it anymore I still listen to it on CZcams when I'm driving down the road
The reference of "Mean Girls" as a mob made me chuckle.😄😃😀
"I considered ending it myself, but my self-control got the better of me" among the greatest movie quotes ever. Also am i the only one that cracked up when Bloody Beaver described the hyman 😁
I disapprove-of his very EXISTENCE,...
"This dude is like the Forrest Gump of the Wild West." 🤣🤣
I’m new to this channel and i already love it. Plus the fact that your voice sound just like Danny McBride. Lol
Ha, welcome aboard
"Best buck eighty I ever spent "
What I appreciate about your podcasts is the fact that if you can’t verify your info, you do not hesitate to say so. The facts you CAN verify, I guess you can be fully believe. Keep it up, hombre!
Anyone ever ask what my favorite movies are I tell them Young Guns and Young Guns 2. Six years old is when my curiosity sparked towards that image I observed hanging on a wall at our local McDonald's in 1980. Learned that image was Billy the kid. I was intrigued/captivated like some unseen force was pulling me in. Hopefully if I don't leave this place before my time my plan is to visit all the locations that I know of that Billy the kid roamed. After years of listening to his tail anyone with any sense would realize that the story of his ending at 21 didn't add up. Can't be for sure but my gut feeling tells me that Brushy Bill Roberts was Billy the Kid. If I know I'm dying and want a clean conscious before crossing over into the spirit world why else would someone waste their time asking for a pardon? The only thing he was trying to gain from this was a peace of mind, a clean conscious.
A clean slate. I hear ya. N there's too much TO NOT believe that Brushy Bill was the man.....that is Billy. Why would anyone be able to prove themselves w bullet wounds, scars, stories, excetra..... n had detailed stories...... bc can't noone explain, in detail, such events.
Movies are not history. They are far, far, far from history.
"It ain't your gang Dave!."😆😀
It's always been your gang
@@jeremybarbour5124 😅😅😅😅
I was about to respond the same thing
@@jeremybarbour5124 Don't cross me, Dave.
Another great podcast. Well researched. Funny as hell. Always excited for the next episode.
"Bet you do it with your horse!" Hahaha best movie ever!
Love your storytelling! Just found you, been listening to every day
Glad you found me
Ever since the 'Young Guns' movies, I've been fascinated by the Lincoln County War and even more so by Arkansas Dave
It's almost as if history has chosen to erase him, which is a shame.
Love your channel- subbed, greetings and best wishes from England-
'Cock a doodle God damn Doo!!'
👍🇬🇧
Don't ever, ever look to movies for history. The people who wright the screen plays for those films are trying to entertain. History, or the true story of what they are writing about means nothing to them!
Agree with your first and second sentence. As someone who has written movies, including a WWII film, I think your third sentence is an insult. How do you think films like Young Guns or Tombstone get made? Do you think the people behind Saving Private Ryan don't care about history? Your words demonstrate you have no clue what writers do. The long days of research and investigation are often not apparent on the screen. So why isn't what's on screen an exact translation from the history books? Because you cannot possibly show something like the Lincoln County War in a two hour film and expect to do it justice. You said it yourself. Filmmakers are in the business of entertaining not giving history lessons. The best compliment I ever received was from two women who were therapists for soldiers suffering from PTSD. They said we made it so real one of them had to leave. Those scenes were written after talking to veterans which was one of richest experiences of my life. To quote Chavez from Young Guns, AND YOU THINK IT MEANS NOTHING TO ME?!?!? Instead of wasting time on youtube showing us how ignorant you are every time you touch the keyboard you should actually take some time and learn something. I know it might be hard but maybe, just maybe, it will make you a better person.
always like your pods your humor and good narating. keep them coming b safe.
Thanks, will do!
I Love learning about the more obscure or lesser known outlaws of the old west . Keep up the good work
Imma try, Matt
I'm laughing at the thought of Dave reading that comment
@@unofficialsweatt 🤷♂️ 😂
Ive always done research on the old west...I love this era...I find your videos informative and I love all your movie references and witty humor...💜
Thanks Stephane!
@@WildWestExtravaganza You probably know this now. This photo is not Dave Rudabaugh. Interesting story behind it. Cheers man
My mom and dad were born in the early 20s in a little cowtown not far from Dodge City, Kansas. The population of around 1000. My grandparents lived in that little town and I lived with them from time to time as I was growing up. I absolutely loved that little town. It is still there. The families who lived there had been raised in the Old West. I knew many of them well. They were a hard-working lot and honest as the day is long. The kids played in the high school teams. We had parades on holidays. There was no crime. No one locked their front doors. I asked my grandmother once, why she didn't lock her front door. She replied, "What if someone needs something?". The Old West was an honorable place, and I experienced it.
love your podcast! thanks for being so real!
Thank you!
He is one of my favorites of the wild west outlaws. I first got into him because of the young guns II.
Thank you...we grew up in a wonderful time...young guns is a top movie of mine...so much that after seeing it...my friend, for years called Dave rudabaogh...
You have some of it right; the other stuff is movie fluff, however good. I have done extensive research on Dave Rodenbaugh (the real spelling of his last name). I also own a very old biography on him and am working on a movie! Thank you for generating more interest in Dave. Coming soon are teaser trailers etc.
Keep me updated about the movie!
no trailer on your channel yet?
Is that biography available to anyone, in print?
Broooooooo. I’ve had A LOT goin on brother!!! I really appreciate that shout out to my grandad Manuel....... and you mentioned my name!!! Missed out a bit but I’m settled and ready to catch up!!!
Yur Spanish is ON POINT my dude🤣....... PS Fuck GullyBull
I enjoy your videos. Informative, interesting with a sense of humor. Keep it up bud.
I'm digging the video! Keep up the good work!
Hold up there amigo, great job til the end. Left handed, red headed, and red bearded paratrooper here.
No, really that's all true. It's also true that you've become my " go to" in terms of listening while working on projects. Be it building a new kitchen table, gun smithing, or driving for supplies, I enjoy what you do. Thank you
Haha thanks
He was my favorite character in Young Guns 2, just barely surpassing Doc.
Loved this video, very interesting. This is my 2nd viewing of it
When holding my tintype of Dave Rudabaugh, I figure that he held it too, just a long time ago. So I'm holding and studying something
that Dave held and studied too. That breaths life into the man's memory, at least for me.
Love the channel. You give the best information you can get without obsessing over details that can't be clearly confirmed or denied. That's just how it is with history and legend, if you think about it, the majority of our accepted historical record is hearsay. Myth and legend must be a part of history, because- who knows? Who really knows? Great video, fun, funny and entertaining as heck!!
Thank you
Incredible soundtrack, I play it a couple of times a year, in fact, I think I'll play it this afternoon! 😁
Dave Rudabaugh became my favorite outlaw as a young boy watching Young Guns 2. I literally copied him at a young age!
In later years, i studied the real "dirty" dave Rudabaugh.
Great contribution to youtube right here!
"Are you billy the kid"?
"Nah...but Im Arkansas Dave Rudabaugh...."
Haha I know what you mean
“You musta heard of me. C’mon, Rudabaugh!”
9:17 "I promised my Grams on my soul that I'd pick her up train lanterns if I came across any. On my soul Dave! It's outta my hands; faster we git em, faster we gone let's go." I can totally see it. Side note: Don't remember the name, but there's an older Billy the Kid movie with Val freaking Kilmer as William H. Bonny that's pretty good.
Gore Vidal's Billy the Kid
I love his outlook and very truthful guy. Love his remarks. Very entertaining
Thanks Steven
Dude your channel is badass keep it up.
Everyone is welcome to like whichever Wyatt Earp movie you want. Me? I liked Tombstone. Because it started Kurt Russell, and Sam Elliott. Both powerful actors, and two of my favorite fellas!!
I like both Tombstone and Wyatt Earp. Both have their good and bad points. I really don’t think either Russell or Costner fit the part. The Costner movie is more historically accurate and we learn more about the history than the legends. Tombstone has a more Disney kind of feel to it but it’s by far the more fun movie to watch and quote. Wyatt Earp is just so long and Costner is too soft and his voice is a little too whiny for Earp IMO.
Kevin Costner's "Wyatt Earp" was 300% more historically accurate than "Tombstone".
I agree Flintlock and Costner was a better Wyatt and Quaid was a great Holiday
Accurate maybe. Boring as Hell. Tombstone was entertaining and was accurate to a point. Costner's version left out Curly Bill, Johnny Ringo and the infamous Cowboys that ruled Tombstone. And Val Kilmer was a more believable Doc Holliday. Tombstone was entertaining from start to finish.
Agreed
@@oletimer5853 quaid was better than kilmer,and he lost all that weight for the role.thats method acting here
@@-elchoya9832
Well everyone's entitled to their own opinion. And an opinion is like an asshole - everybody's got their own and we all think ours is the only one that don't stink.
Great podcast! Ty for your strong efforts...
love what you do and how you do it. Keep bringing that info in a fun entreating way, colorful language and all. Keep the haters hating and the supporters happy. The boys at the Outlaw Saloon in San Antonio TX got your back OUTLAW UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My man
If youre interested, brett hall has done a tremendous amount of work comparing what is written about billy the kid to the interviews with brushy bill roberts. The hinge pin for me was the letters the Kid wrote the governorof N.M. The governor had died and his books were sent to indiana, and the letters were found in the books in indiana. Roberts, had no way of knowing many details of the letters unless Roberts was the Kid.
I've seen many of hus videos
Love this channel just found it a couple days ago and been on a binge!!! Plus bonus points for same name as me!!! " It's hard having pals"!!!!!
Great name
Thanks for the history of Dave. Very interesting, thanks.
Thanks for listening, Carl
And I’m a big fan of the wild west history podcast well done sir you should do more
He was also portrayed in Costner’s Wyatt Earp movie.
Great stories n history!!
Thank you so much for the history n all you do to make this happen!!!!! TY Wild West extravaganza!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Will be enjoying it for a while with all the work you put in!!
Forgive me for turning this into an episode of Beavis and butthead but you said huh huh huh he he he
The wife loves your show now. It's become an, "Are you listening to that without me??" thing.
Tell her I said thanks for listening!
"C W wife leaves him for their favorite youtuber.." lol. Sorry bro.
Ended up here from a rabbit hole about the Indians and outlaws of Texas. Subbed.
Thanks James!
Can't say thank you enough for your research well done mate keep up the good work
This is cool. I knew something about him but not this much. Thanks. 👍
Thanks for listening
Thanks for the history lesson sir
I love young guns and real history, thanks for this 🍻
" been in a bad mood for a couple of years now " 😅
I recommend looking at the archive of the Tombstone Epitaph for any news articles for mention of Arkansas Dave. I spent several of my formative years in Tombstone, leaving there for the last time after 8th grade graduation in 1981. I have no recollection of us being taught about Arkansas Dave Rudabaugh being with The Clanton Gang or the Cochise County Cowboys. Though he certainly could have joined up as a ranch hand or as one of Curly Bill's gang. Prior to it becoming Cochise County, the area was part of Pima County. The Clantons and the Cowboys were often hired by the Democratic Party or various office candidates running as Democrats hired them to steal ballot boxes from Stagecoaches throughout Pima. Virgil had arrived in Prescott back in 1877. By 1879 he had become a Deputy US Marshal and assigned to Tombstone to deal with these gangs. Jim, Wyatt, and Doc came from New Mexico. Then came Morgan and Warren. I don't know that Rudabaugh was out of prison by October of 1881, let alone with the Clantons. Maybe there's an archive of "Old Man" Clanton and who he hired and paid?
what if Dave Rudabaugh was a time traveler that wanted to meet historical figures and didn't bath to fit in.
Now that is a script waiting to be written
"The Forrest Gump of the Wild West" Awesome!
I was thinking that while listening to the Brushy Bill episode. Apparently there have been quite a few "Forrest Gumps" roaming the ole west.
God I watched YGII so many times growing up. That laugh lol. In this episode you said The Kid was drinking, but I thought he didn't drink alcohol??
Talk about loosing your head in a card game😂😂😂😂😂😂
Who else first came across Rudabaugh, Webb and Hoodoo from playing the game GUN. 🙂
BTW I found my tintype of Dave Rudabaugh along with many other tintypes of other Regulators. The collection of ancient photographs had been owned by Sallie Lucy Chisum. I bought them after the living Chisum family had sold them in a yard sale and they ended up in a local antique shop. So I own authentic tintypes of: Frank Coe, George Coe, Helena Coe, Phoebe Brown Coe, Lilly Casey, Lilly Casey posed with Bob Olinger, Big Jim French, John Middleton, Robt Widenmann, Doc Scurlock, John Tunstall, Alex McCsween, Bob Brewer and others...
I like tombstone, everybody does, but compared to Wyatt Earp Tombstone always to me seemed like the Disney World production of a western scene and Wyatt Earp was epic in every single aspect of its making. I honestly have always thought Kevin Costner's movie was the better-made movie I thought that Dennis Quaid honestly was a better Doc Holliday, I liked seeing both Mastersons represented on screen by Tom Sizemore and Bill Pullman. And I like that it showed Wyatt Earp a little more fully than the love letter that is Tombstone chose to.
I like your story tellin' I just subscribed to your channel. Always the Lanterns...😂
Thanks man!
great display here. well told.
just discovered the channel. subscribed
Thanks Jason!
I knew him as "Dirty" Dave Rudabaugh. Because he never bathed.
This dude is hilarious & well resesrched I'm hooked!
Thank you!
I got a weak back. How long have you had a weak back? Oh about a week back.
There should be a Chavez and a Arkansas Dave movie. Hell of a a couple tails
I'd bet the house he didn't take kind to being called, "Cross-eye Dave".
My Fav 2!!!!! " did you see the size of them chickens" ....
Ok ok ok! At this point I am only 7 minutes and 38 seconds into this video, but after just watch brushy bill . Than going ahead and starting this one. I have stop and offer this portion of what may multiple segments in its interity, I have to issue this thought. I truly don't care how accurate the content may, or may not be I don't care. This is damn entertaining and funny. I like a sense of humor. That's why I base my first person persona as Joesph L Meek the merry mountain man.
End of chapter one
Ok you have to admit that scene in that abandoned rock and Adobe shack was great cinema. What's crazy is how small this outlaw circle seems to be. It's almost like a royal family tree with something hidden in the roots. I think it's interesting that the portrial in this movie Dave Rudibough always looks stoned?
We will call that chapter 2
Oh no not anonymous sources. By todays standards this could be replaced ominous resources, seemingly one in the same. Oddly enough Bertha is the name of my trusty .54 caliber sidelock muzzleloader. Never met anyone of said name not talk loud, and trust me this rifle talks loud.
The end Mountain man
Another great video
Thanks man
This was awesome, never knew that wasn't his real pic. I do believe he died in Old Mexico, it's crazy how both he and Billy were both shot and killed in the dark. Thanks for the shoutout.
Maybe that is why the lanterns were stolen. They did not want to be caught in the dark.
Dave was not killed in the dark. He made the mistake of going back into the saloon where he’d killed two and wounded another in a card game. He was gunned down and somebody decapitated Dave with a machete. The head was then put onto a pole and displayed in the town.
@@ronnicholson4411 So much for my attempted humor. Thanks for info.
Good work bro! PALS!
I know he wasn't real but my fav character from young guns was always Dirty Steve. 'Did you see the size of that chicken?'
Charlie: Hey Chavez, how come they aint killin us?
Steve: Because we're in the spirit world asshole they can't see us
Brilliant kept seeing your videos pop up whilst watching Jerry Skinner's western vids, glad I clicked good info, well presented with nice bit of comedy to boot definitely too good for Hollywood lol
Haha! Thanks! I'm glad you clicked, too.
Your funny as hell and you just got a new sub. Talk on brother
“Jose Chavez y Chavez. He’s a MEXICAN Indian. How’d THAT be?”
NavaHO
Dude, the soundtrack was tight as hell, and Chávez was the duuuuuude!
Haha, brilliant episode again!👍 Looking forward to your next history lessons😉. I think i listened to most of your episodes. Could i have been missing out on an episode on Luke Short maybe? Think he is one of the bad ass figures of the old west. Good work BB! Keep up the good work!👍
Luke Short is on the list!
@@WildWestExtravaganza that's great!!!👍👍👍
My mother and father were born in a little cowtown in the early 20s only 27 miles from Dodge City, Kansas. My dad and his mother interviewed old-timers around town. They taped the interviews. Those tapes, boxes of them, turned to mush and I threw them away. What a shame. The little town, population 800, maybe less, is still there and many of the houses in town date to the 19th Century. I loved living in that little town. My dad knew men who knew Wyatt Earp and Bat Masterson. Masterson, BTW: was better known than was Wyatt. Bat was elected sheriff of Ford County. He was well known. Earp and Holliday, not so much. They spent most of their time in the gambling halls in Dodge City and were not generally known in the upper classes in the city. Masterson; however, was.
That photo looks more like Bob Denver with a mustache.
Young guns in the best 2 movies ever made. I love them both. I own on dvd.
Hey. Newton resident here, former owner of what used to be considered the red brick front saloon. Life long resident. Feel free to hit me up.
Dude u got a great sense of humor that I enjoy as much as I do the history!
Thanks Brian
Dude you tell one hell of a great story great narration. Party on dude NY ses hey bro
Quality as always Bloody Beaver... It has got it all including outlaw latern fetishes and a man who's name was strikingly close to female genitalia. Where else we going to get those absolute gem nuggets of information. Often overlooked this fella just like he overlooked soap and water!
You have got love the commentary it's hilarious
I would like to hear your take on Mysterious Dave Mather
As I listen to this, I googled the picture of the severed head .
Damn, talk about some medieval shit
Another great listen. Love to hear you telling western history in your particular style. How about a episode on " Liver eating John Johnston?!" I've got a copy of " Crow Killer " Would love to hear you sort the real story.
Johnston is most definitely on the list. I haven't read Crow Killer, yet, though.
@@WildWestExtravaganza just a dumb question, are you " Jungle " from Action Figure Therapy !?
Thorpe's book “ Crow Killer “ is most likely not accurate, but there is a great pic of Johnston in it, albeit in his later years, but might be good for a pic on the podcast.
Doc (Josiah) Scurlock was a heavy player in the early history of the Regulators and Billy Bonney, but as he aged Doc clammed up. He became a respectable citizen and a poet. He lived until 1929 and his family remembers him today. As a youth, however, Doc was a pistol! He got into a fight over a poker game and exchanged shots with another player. The other guy was killed, but his shot knocked out Doc's two front teeth, the bullet exited the back of his neck! In my tin of Doc, one can see his collapsed upper lip. He was not blond, BTW; but had dark hair and mustache.
His actual nickname was “Dirty Dave Rudabaugh” because he smelled so bad.
LOL, great delivery
This was very entertaining your dialogue is awesome one thing you did forget to mention though that JJ web and hoodoo Brown were featured in the Kick-Ass gunslinger video game called Gun
I never played it, didn't know
@@WildWestExtravaganza there's a part in the game the main character goes to a town called empire where hoodoo Brown is mayor and his two deputies are JJ web and another guy by the name Rudabaugh the main character who name is Colton White he's deputized by hoodoo Brown if you like Young guns you love the game gun check it out sometime
Fantastic historical account.
Very interesting thanks for the info Dave north west uk
Thank you for listening, David.
Love the dead wood reference lol
Nice I learned something well done.
Thanks