Racism in Metal: A very bad idea | SpectreSoundStudios
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- In today’s episode on Spectre Sound Studios I’ll be discussing Phil Anselmo's idiotic actions at Dimefest.
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I am a Black man. I was an ex-garage metal guitarist. And I am 'Classic' Metal fan (Priest, Accept, Metallica, Slayer, Dio, ect). After years of having to defend myself from racist bullshit from so called fans about how my skin color doesn't belong at this show, or how I can't play the music because 'my people just don't do it", I gotta thank you, Glen for laying it down for everyone. Major, Fucking, Kudos!
Hey Glenn, that Iraqi band you mentioned is called Acrassicauda. They put out their debut full length album last year called Gilgamesh. Really cool blend of thrash & middle eastern sound.
yep saw them in San Diego and got their DVD signed by them. they live there in San Diego now
Yo
please tell me it's a concept album about The Epic of Gilgamesh
+MutilatedMetalhead It's an amazing band, I remember that documentary.
+MutilatedMetalhead Kickass band imo.
Thank you for mentioning that the best metal singer in the world is gay. There's still so much homophobia in metal it's sickening.
I've got no use for homophobia either.
+SpectreSoundStudios ditto
+SpectreSoundStudios What's the name/band of the singer you mentioned?
+Kijiji Judas Priest
+Chris Cannon I love the message that metal is accepting to so many groups. I am a Christian, and I love the fact that we can all put aside our differences and just rock out together.
Anyone can throw out an apology. But did he actually mean it? Was this something he felt he had to do just as damage control? I heard he blamed it on being drunk on white wine or some bs like that.
How do you judge if someone is genuine with their apology? Only answer I know to give is generally, the individual's actions after the apology.
@@Aaron-zh4kj his "actions" we're picking his @#cking arm up and extending it, why is there some much of a "symbolism" worship with people today? like they're worth apologizing too, most of the metal fans I know damn well aren't no angels themselves.
@@shelbyspeaks3287 Yeah, I'm not up in arms about his "actions" myself. Knowing him being the type of person he is, he was being a bonehead/trying to get a reaction. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯?
He's only sorry cuz he got caught.
At a slipknot concert when the lights were on some skinhead was on someones shoulders waving a flag with a swastika, my friend asked the black dude standing next to him for the bottle he was holding, he said of course, and nailed the skinhead with with it.
Not cool man. The bottle could have been recycled. Nazis are waste that rot slowly.
Your friend is a scumbag
MrGenedancingmachine
He probably got worse when the lights went out, he was really in the wrong crowd to do something like that, we were there to hear metal, not see people act like jackasses between sets.
Waving a swatstika around in a public area, especially a highstrung and inebriated crowd at a metal concert, is a quick way to cause trouble, regardless of freedom of speech.
What did he expect to happen? That the crowd would go, "wow, what a cool guy."
Daydream Anatomy
You don't assault people, its very simple.
MrGenedancingmachine
I didn't, and I wouldn't. I'm just saying offensive behavior can have some backlash.
It's not like the bottle hurt his that much, at most it'd have caught him wrong and cut his face. But he just looked in the direction it was thrown and started yelling.
And a concert isn't a place where people can talk out their differences from 20 feet away. I mean I could see people being politely asked to move when smoking, or something, but he was just doing it to attract attention and cause something.
I've also seen people get punished for moshing rudely, like not helping people up, and being assholes, shit some bands stop playing for. Which just pisses everyone off who was being respectful.
I dont' agree with his apology to be honest. He's sorry he was filmed doing it. Phil has a history of white pride bullshit. There's even a video on CZcams of him years ago giving a white pride speech at one of his shows, he's goes off pretty hardcore in that video too. Sure he apologized, but it just shows what he is all about regardless if he apologizes or not.
+CrazyBadCuber Well... so what? There is brown pride and black pride. White pride is wrong? I'm just trying to understand how one kind of pride is "hatred" while another kind of pride is "cultural identity and healthy." It would appear that only "white pride" is hatred. Isn't there an MMA fighter with "BROWN PRIDE" tattooed on his stomach? Is that hatred 'bullshit' or is he just "positively identifying with his culture"?
CHERNOBYL STUDIOS Here here! Nothing wrong with being proud of who and what you are no matter what race or gender! Wait unless your Caucasian! Then you have to be proud in silence cuz someone might think your a racist. Well I'm proud of who and what I am. Don't like it? Too bad, get over it and thicken your skin.
CHERNOBYL STUDIOS lol you're a fucking tool man. Now you're a mind reader? You think I think black people saying black power wouldn't bother me? What the fuck did I just write above? Are you stupid, you can't read? I already acknowledged I don't think that shits right either.
Also, just because phil said that, doesn't mean he's not going to get ANY consequences from it. He said it in a public place, hailed hitler while he was at it, in front of a bunch of people, and people carry portable cameras around with them everywhere these days. He deserves what he's getting.
It's 2016. Grow the fuck up. There's no reason or need to be racist. Why is it ok for a racist to be hateful towards other groups of people, yet when they get backlash for it it's not ok for them to get consequences by the mass public for it? You're probably a god damned skinhead yourself. You're sure acting like one.
Also I couldn't give any fucks at all what a drunk guy screaming white power means to you. You are not everybody. MOST people have a problem with racists these days. The fact that you do not, says a whole fuck of a lot about you. Now shut the fuck up, idiot. I'm muting this conversation so I don't have to hear back from a person as fucking moronic and stupid as you. Have a good day.
Didn't read past the first sentence. Cheers.CrazyBadCuber
+CHERNOBYL STUDIOS The difference is that black people have faced prejudice for hundreds of years, so just like a "straight pride" it's not fucking needed whatsoever.
I feel like that was more of a forced apology just to protect his image and the band's.
+TheAngryAntitheist This is definitely what it was! ;)
He seemed apologetic or at least saddened. No doubt it's stopped him from being completely arse fucked by the metal world, but that doesn't seem like the only reason he's apologised.
+TheAngryAntitheist I think the apology was probably genuine. Phil doesn't do anything he doesn't want to, and its not like he has a reputation to protect anyway, he will likely never be a major act again but he will always draw enough people to make a living so there's really nothing forcing him into an apology.
Phil protecting his image? Like he ever cared about that in his life hahahaha.
+Arnold Moore The thing is he didn't acknowledge he was wrong. He was spouting bullshit to protect what's left of his image.
To be honest racism in any form in anyway way is just wrong metal or not.
*IT DOES NOT BELONG ON THIS WORLD, IT BELONGS ON FUCKIN' MARS, MAN*
The Frözenfires Hahaha. Headbanger's journey reference?
The Frözenfires Haha. Headbanger's journey reference?
Badass documentary
Yeah but it's a really big issue in metal. So many bands and fans are racists and nazis, more than any other genre.
@@MorbidMindedManiac
If there's people on Mars, I guarantee you'll find your "racism" too.
Yes Phil apologized...like he's done for years every time he's done this type of thing. Robb's point was enough is enough, stop placating the guy. It's like a junkie who swears they'll quit, then get's wrecked the next day. Comes a time you have to hold them accountable. I love Pantera, I love Phil's vocals. It's time to hold him accountable imo.
robb never apologized for saluting
Wow really? How do you hold someone accountable though?? Your very idea on holding accountable for saying what they want IN America is what the Nazis did indeed do. yOU DON'T solve issues like these in that manner, the more intolerant towards intolerance we become the more intolerant we become, Education however is key, inclusion, not forced a bit of traveling and culture does you good. What we need to learn is not to be proud of our biological characteristics but our actions, attitudes and achievements we humans give to this world. That is TRUE POWER.
@@eddiemperor even though I'm defending phil, freedom of speech isn't freedom from social repercussion. it's not like we're sueing Phil.
"Accountable" are you now judge, jury And Are you saying people can't change? that's an awful headspace to be in.
Agreed 💯
Ronnie James Dio was a big advocate for no bigotry in Metal
Hence Ozzy>Dio x infinity
Gay friend critiqued the 'Metal Uniform' once, said it needed a gay makeover (this was in the time Queer Eye for the,...whatever was on the air). I politely informed them we already had it (from Halford).
Hell yea. Rob dresses like a leather daddy. Dressing in leather is a historical part of a segment of the LGBT community.
Good for you Glenn. I've been seeing a lot of casual racism in my personal life recently (I'm in the food industry, which is extremely diverse) and the most important thing we can do is stand up and publicly disagree. Racism lives in a bubble and too often, the people who hold these views are not challenged by the people in their lives. I consider it my duty as a friend and coworker to challenge these ignorant people when the line is crossed. For some of us, our impact is limited to those around us, for others like you, Glenn, a real audience can be reached and I applaud your effort.
+Kevin McGrath i agree
If this was the first time Anselmo had been accused of racism I would probably buy the apology, but it isn't so I don't.
Yeah, I don't think he gjves a fuck!! He is STILL a Legend and the rest of you are pawns
Phil grew up in the French quarter of Louisiana the most crazy and diverse place in the US. Phil is an Athiest as well so he did a live stream with AIU. Very surprising to see Phil as a fan of AIU. The only thing Phil is guilty of is not being ashamed of being white, which there's nothing wrong with that. In this situation he was fucking with hecklers in the audience. Watch his live stream with AIU. He tells a lot about his history and hobbies and racism isn't one of them. He gets a bad rap because of his image.
Jared Ellis Dime bag was the drunk one, Phil was the one on heroine and their old singer was the 80s high pitch singer on the album. Phil doesn't sing unless it's real low in tone.
Did you or your ancestors suffer under Nazi oppression? If not, then the apology wasn't meant for you anyway, so it doesn't really matter if you "buy" it or not..
Axeman Andrew true he does do the high metal scream but he doesn't sing high notes. Those high notes on the cowboys from Hell album was there old singer, back when they were glam rock. Granted, that's something nobody wants to talks about anymore.
I'm from India and me and my 3 buddies play with our amps cranked up till the neighbors start screaming. \m/
Rock on! \m/
Life is short, play loud!
You dont need a singer. Just record your neighbours \m/
keep metal muic More heavier against all those creepier things like racism.
Can someone please tell me the song playing the background when he's actually talking. I've been hearing it a lot in the videos and it's driving me crazy. It starts right at the beginning after the intro guitars.
What is the background music playing in this video? I have heard it in a couple of your other videos as well
Glenn, you motivate the living shit out of my life with these videos. Keep them coming, I'm (we're) eager to learn!
We have a small Metal community here in Lahore, Pakistan. What I love about Metal and like Glenn said that it is almost in every part of the world and ofcourse the passion of the musicians and the fans. Love to metal fans all over the world. 🤘🤘🤘🤘
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Hi Glenn! Hey man every time I watch ur videos, I realize u use a distressor for ur voice. I want to know how u deal with the noise and noise Gates, I'm running a CZcams Channel and I try it a few times but have a Lot of noise. I don't know if u have a video showing that, if not, hope you can make one.
The obvious thing to say, Glenn. I am russian, we know how really bad racism and Nazism. Unfortunately, not all my compatriots are aware of it.
Metal, it's about the music and not skin color or religion (exept black metal, obviously). Sorry for the Google translator.
There is actually Nazi, Communist, Christian and probably muslim metal too. They mostly suck though, and are very marginalized. Christian metal is pretty big though, despite being mostly PG clean metal in the US.
Even black metal nowadays isn't about religion. Damn, you even have Rudra who plays some kind of a hindu black metal lol
There are lots of rusian nazi bands. Guess they like to be enslaved by germans lol.
There's still the question of WHO IN FUCK'S NAME WOULD DO THAT ON PURPOSE?
Then again, there's a certain Russian metal singer who pulled a similarly moronic stunt(so I've heard, anyway), and didn't even apologize for it. I guess every community has its idiots.
@@ParadoxapocalypSatan those have their roots in 90s, when USSR collapsed and street neo-nazi movements were really powerful because of all the ethnic conflicts that took place back then.
That Iraqi band, Acrassicauda, left to Turkey, and then got refugee status in the US. Most of the band members live in New Jersey now.
It's hard to listen to pantera knowing that he sees the world that way. Lyrics take on a whole new meaning. Walk on home *boy* sounds much different knowing who he really is.
no good (attack the radical), rise
I need... five minutes alone
Someone needs their diaper changed 😭
did you stop crying yet? lol!!
I know I'm late to this one lol, but I just wonder how many kids in bands saw Phil doing this and copied him😬
What is the song at the introduction of the video please ?
Question: What's with the computer joystick popping up in the background on your vids? Are you dudes flight simulator buffs? :)
The Iraqi band is Acrassicauda, and they managed to move to New York before all the crap happened. They released an album called Gilgamesh last year, and it sounds killer!
Awesome! Thanks for the update!
+Tedris4 Great to hear! I wondered what happened to them too.
Metal: The music that unites all!
Really?
Fuck hip hop trash
Haha not sure about that brother. Metal can be racist and elitist. It pushes people away with their “youre a poser” mentality. Definitely not the most inclusive genre, albeit my favorite.
Said the guy with the nickname which reminds me of burnt churches.
@@ramon2008 elitists are the immune and posers are the virus. That's why is still the realest music genre
What's that Vid with FLUFF at the end? Do you know him?
What is the song, or at least the band in the end?
Glenn I love you man. I don't comment that much, but I've watched all your videos. I cannot get enough of you. It's like your my friend and I don't even know you.
Thanks for watching! :)
SpectreSoundStudios Thank you!
Racism doesn't have a place in a modern society. Quite frankly, any sort of discrimination is outdated. And while I applaud him for apologizing and claiming it was a joke, I still don't see what motivated him to do the salute in the first place. I love his music and have for several years, but I cannot condone his actions, apology or not.
He was being a typical drunken bastard, don't get me wrong i've used that excuse before but sometimes it brings the dark truth out of people
EDIT: The only real question is, can you djent? Duddudjskwa djent.
Great video dude! I'm glad you made this, too many people focus on hatred and being better than another person for no reason, we should be focusing on the things that matter like MUSIC! and whatever other hobbies you have. You always gotta think about being in the other persons side instead of bullying others to feed your ego. Thanks again for the great videos man!
thanks for all the help with the band and the tips ,we really look forward to record a song at your studio ,special thanks from israel
Love your videos/channel!
Good points, Glenn, and a big thumbs up for calling out stuff that needs calling out. Metal does have a dark side that can't be ignored, as does humanity in general, but thankfully, it's a small part of the larger picture.
Thank you for this!!! I loved Metal as a teen and moved away from it because of the racism... However my favorite 80 and 90s metal groups are still on my playlist! My kids think it’s Cool
Is there a full version of the intro song?
Yea, look up "the eagle has landed" by Spectre Sound Studios
Was this video an inspiration from FinalStageMetal's "Power Metal Point" on LBGT In Metal? This reminds me of it.
Fuck yeah, Glenn.
+TOTAL You spelled "you" wrong.
Koedix Oh, my bad. I'm just not a fan of the whole closed-minded, backwoods fucknugget-mentality. There's always next time.
Did you hear a whooshing sound just now?
+TOTAL likwd for the fucknugget.
+Cai Durkan Dunno about you, but I think the TOTAL guy did.
On the subject of Metal being inclusive: As inclusive as Metal is, there still seems to be a mentality that revolves around an Elitist mentality that is pressuring people to conform. I can remember a couple years ago after graduating High School that many of my Metal friends (not all of them) were in the scene and liked the music more as a Fraternity & not for the music itself.
Some of these people gave me & others shit for being into Core bands or anything that wasn't Thrash, Death, Black Metal or Doom. I personally couldn't care less about that shit because its about the music being good no matter what it is. Not being apart of a club. According to many of those people I was never a true Metalhead. Even though I liked a lot of the bands they liked; I also liked a lot of the bands they hated. & they never tolerated it. Pretty stupid shit. Even after these people aren't in my life anymore, I still see Facebook posts every now & then that bash "false Metal."
If members of the Metal community focused more on the music & not being apart of some Exclusive Group like a bunch of "Mean Girls" & Hipsters, then Metal would have a shot at producing many great bands again. Because if there is still an Elitist mentality, the genre/scene won't have any room to grow. As a consequence that isolation will force it to fade away when it never had to.
I talked a lot about musicians, but don't forget about the fans, the ones who never managed to play an instrument but still feel those shivers down their spine when they hear an awesome riff, the ones who fill stadiums to see their favorite bands, the ones who buy their albums and merch, the ones who still when not being musicians, can get the whole feeling of a good metal song. A good friend of mine who's going through some pretty rough shit physically is unable to play any instrument, he's barely able to walk actually, but I am yet to find someone who's more passionate about rock and metal. He's holding on because of it, it's what gives him strength to carry on.
hey glenn (just curious here mate) how many black metal bands have you recorded for? and how do you feel about black metal bands in general? (especially the ''extreme'' black metal bands)
Great question. Look for a reply on Viewer's Comments #29
great! thanks man
As he was talking about the nazi-salute, I saw the "Heil Sound"-sticker, and I laughed more than I should've.
Reminded me of the mistake Lostpropests vocalist did.
You can't make up for this with an apologetic facebook post.
You can't get more disappointed than that either.
Really nice build Dan! Ive owned several Invaders over the years.... I find that they "open up" with a HEAVY gauge string and an beat up tube amp somewhere in the D range. Thanks for putting out quality content and showing the world that you dont have to have $100,000 in tools to build a quality instrument!
Glenn: off topic but how do you feel about a band playing all together live in studio to make a record?
Metal should be inherently anti authoritarian.
Comments like this is why anti music has to exist. A literal individual expression in form of music shouldn’t inherently be anything
@@lowerbackmutilator2987 I have no idea what "anti music" means but art without freedom of expression is always an idea ready to die. Freedom of expression does not exist under authoritarian rule. Also I wasn't talking about music as a whole, just metal, which was founded on the idea of not being told what to do or how to sound. That's why it broke into so many sub genres.
It's just a gesture, why are people making such a big fucking deal over a gesture??? "Ezcuse u it means hwite power!!1!!1!!11!", let me ask you something, does a gesture kill you? Did anyone get killed when Phil did the gesture? No? Perfect, then stop crying over a stupid hand gesture
thereisnochoiceleft Get that strawman outta here. Surw Hitler is bad, Nazis are bad etc but him moving his hand didnt suddenly signal the crowd to start slaughtering each other, he did nothing malicious. Youre just way too sensitive. Signals do have meaning. Not a violent nor harmful one though
But you didn't see the full video. Someone in the audience randomly yelled at Phil and called him a racist, so Phil did the salute as a joke. He was being sarcastic.
Thanks for sitting on the fence on this one!!!
I believe the Iraqi metal band was Acrassicauda. According to wikipedia they were granted refugee status in the US.
+zupperm Yeah they're still going, Their new album "Gilgamesh" was released at some point (not sure when lol). It's worth throwing them a like facebook.com/acrassicauda/?fref=ts
“It’s really hard to see your hero’s disappoint you” Phil apologized because he got caught and times changed. That’s the difference between the Metallica pic and Phil.
So the band that you were talking about Acrassicauda, released an album in April of this year.
+SpectreSoundStudios en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrassicauda hey Glenn the band you're talking about is now in america, brooklyn ny to be exact
And yet someone who is religiously worshipped within the metal community (Dimebag) regularly hung out and collaborated with David Allan Coe. Metal is a genre of extremists and elitists, and that will never change.
David Allan coe has a black drummer. He was once off putting but he’s come around. All in all I like him
Both Dimebag and Vinnie were known to be pretty racist.
@@MoonOvIce you can leave now
Good
I couldn’t agree more with this video. Awesome video Glenn
Is that a Mionix Naos mouse flashing in the background? I just treated myself to their Castor.
My best friend in high school was black and also a HUGE heavy metal fan! He even played guitar too.
he sounds a lot like me 🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾
Why credit for him apologising? He only did it because of it being filmed and the heat he's getting for it.
You're using the term fucking up like he accidentally broke a vase or something.
What he did starkly revealed a deep rooted way of thinking in his head. The apology doesn't exactly mean much after that.
Tolerate extremist ideas (racism here) in Metal or subject everyone to political correctness or self-censorship? Why just tell Phill a big fuck off. Thats more honest. Why make him apologetic, or make him the way we wanted him to be (AKA peer pressure). Metal has been a subject of censorship in the past and we should be advocates of freedom of speech. This political correctness pisses me off just as well as the ultra nationalistic BS that has been said by some bands.
You are talking about Acrassicauda? As far as I know, they are fine. They just put out Gilgamesh album last year... And if you mean someone else, please enlighten me
So how do you feel about NSBM?
Seen the Machine Head response Glenn?
+Bryn Richards That's what I wonder, as well. Robb brought up some stuff that you really should take into consideration before making a video like this.
It's on my watch list. I was asked to share my opinion, so I did.
+Bryn Richards One washed up 90's band talking about another.
+TheTundraTerror ...and what does the band's age have to do with anything whatsoever? Talking about racism is a serious matter, no matter if you happen to be a lonely CZcams commenter, a washed up 90's band or a friggin' top-notch politician.
Mr. Gul
Now you're just being stupid.
The only correct response here is, “Yeah, you’re right. Racism has no place in metal (or anything else).”
And while most of the people commenting seem to agree, there is a vocal minority that just seems to dig in their hills, equivocate, instead of admitting that a problem exists points to what another group or the other is doing.
Have you watched Rob Flynn video?
every metalhead in the world needs to hear this, and everyone who hates metal should even see this, well spoken my man.
It doesn't take a real man to apologize- it takes a person like Phil because he's always saying dumb shit, has to apologize for the dumb shit he's said,- & its not like its the first time he has said some dumb shit & had to apologize for it.
+Kiefer Hyder Also, I feel he wasn't really sorry for what he did. It was more like he was sorry about being caught in the act.
^ EXACTLY. That part!
#lynchphil !!!
I don't disagree. This doesn't appear to be the first time Anselmo has spouted racist or homophobic bull, though. If I understand correctly, he would do similar things at Pantera shows. It doesn't seem uncommon to find racism and homophobia in the metal of the 80s and 90s.
That Metallica thing really disappoints me. I adore them. Hetfield was my idol for a long time, though I have reservations about the guy now. (Hoping he's not gonna turn into Ted Nugent.)
+Wil Bane About the Metallica thing, you can see they're way younger on that picture, and I bet it was meant as a joke, heck, Hitler salute jokes are made all around the world.
Brossel That's the thing. That's around the Black album era. Can we judge them for that now, almost 30 years later? Yes, but does that mean that's who they are now? No. David Bowie made statements in the 70s that were in supports of fascism and Hitler. That's not who he was when he died.
+Wil Bane Yeah Bowie was doing an incredible amount of cocaine at the time. That tends to skew ones judgement.
Wil Bane Exactly, what matters is how and who you are now, to a degree of course,
+Brossel: Yeah, especially with the nose mustache. You can absolutely give them shit for it, because some jokes _are_ fucked up. But in Phil's case it seems more genuine.
Nazi salutes and a "Heil Sound" sticker on your desk? That cracked me up :')
It's the man's name, genius.
This is by FAR the best response to this controversy that I've heard.
No place in metal EXCEPT BLACK METAL
Isn't it ironic?
J G you’re forgetting about the existence of national socialist black metal
@@deadinsidemcgee411 You don't get it, do you?
Miha Strajnar nah, I don’t get it. I one hundred percent don’t get it, could you explain?
@@deadinsidemcgee411 Even with the sarcasm, I still don't think you get it. You said J G forgot the exact same thing his comment was based on.
So what was the racist part? when he saluted or when he said "white power"
+TheMango121 You don't know? Maybe both?
Regenas If you don't know, you wouldn't understand the answer.
216trixie If you cant provide me an answer, you dont know why its racist either :)
***** you were muted cause 12 year olds dont need to discuss adult matters
+Shawn Jones lol mate thats utter bullshit, im a white guy , went to school in a black neighbour hood, a ghetto, got in the odd fight but on the whole i found living in a black ghetto less difficult than living in a white ghetto.
Im wondering what your basing the statement "blacks could never contribute to White society" on? Seeing as you listen to Metal which evolved out of blues, and the god father of metal is a mixed race fella, without him metal would not exist, whats his name Jimi something? Then there is the simple matter of Roman and greek civilisations providing the basis for most white culture, seeing as your clearly an idiot, you probably dont know that much of the Roman culture, came from the greeks, and much of the Greek culture came from Egypt, while mine and your ancestors were building mud huts and working out which was the sharp end of a spear, they where building fucking Pyramids and charting the skies. Im sure your probably equally unaware that our number system and basis for science(even the word chemistry) evolved out of the Arabs and Moors> its not that White people should feel bad or guilty or black people are bad or should feel guilty, the fact is EVERY culture brings something to the table and in EVERY culture you have ignorant dick heads that give the other people from that race or culture a bad name, i think we have worked out you are maybe one of these people
hi glenn, the band is called acrasicauda. they eventually escaped to the US. it was in the documentary. they met metallica and hetfield signed a guitar and gave it to the guy. it was great!
Acrassicauda are now in the US! They just released their first cd!
Metal community is the best community. When I first started playing I was always scared that because of my color I wouldn't be accepted. On my first ever gig I did got some weird looks, but all those were just a curious look because I was the new kid in the scene. They came up to me later and everyone was so nice. I totally agree with you man, it's about playing and performing regardless your sex, age, gender, skin color or ethnicity. Music unites us! 🤘
*Reads title* Very well said. And after watching the video, even better said. The only thing I should point out though is that certain people may interpret the phrase "racism has no place in metal" the wrong way, thinking it implies that racism has a place elsewhere. I completely understand what you meant, just pointing out the amount of silly people out there who may not.
to be honest, i could give a shit if a musician is racist or homophobic. all i can say is it's pretty idiotic to to show it in public since your goal as a musician should be to get as many people as possible to hear your music - it's like running a business. why limit your "customers"? but i'm not gonna be one of these people saying i can't listen to pantera the same or i am devastated to see hetfield and ulrich in that pose... they're not superheroes and i'm not 12. just because i like someone's music does not mean they should be expected to cater to a pretentious romanticized lifestyle. racism is everywhere.
Great post!!🤘🏾🎸🎶
This really isn´t just about metal though, its pervasive in all types of music. I play jazz and its the exact same thing in that culture. Nobody cares about anything else than your ability to make good music, and that´s how it should be!
False.
Hey man, as a mexican American who loves Metal i sincerely appreciate your message. However...the Phil thing...come on man, not an isolated incident his constant comments, yelling "White Power!!" At concerts, his little " You know what i really dont like about black people" speech at another concert, wearing a shirt bearing a modern swastika used by Neo-Nazi groups (during an MTV interview), him telling the guitarist from Machine Head he absolutely hated Machine Heads "Ni$#@r phase" don't ruin your message to make excuses for someone who clearly has a racist ideology and makes half assed apologies just because it will hurt his pockets. Saddens me even more knowing other members of Pantera were cool with this which is why i will never listen to their shit ever again.
Metal is supposed to be a genre for everyone, fat, thin, straight, gay, black, white, etc. But not just metal, this also applies to other genres, music should be shared, not kept to a selected group of people
Yo and the brother's that mosh with me go hard AF and I love it.
Honestly I don't care if the bands I listen to are racist or homophobic or whatever.
I'm bisexual, but I listen to bands based on their music not on their prejudices. It'd be better if they weren't prejudiced, sure, but honestly, what do I care. My favourite guitarist could be homophobic, he'd still be my favourite guitarist.
+Obi-Wan Kannabis I'm also bi, I feel the same way. Also, your username is amazing.
+Obi-Wan Kannabis exactly. 100% agree
Obi-Wan Kannabis *gay
+Obi-Wan Kannabis lol man at least you know how to respond.. Always better to respond with humor otherwise it will make you look bad props
Precisely, My favorite Drummers are "Hellhammer" from Mayhem and Darkthrone's "Fenriz" , They've said some pretty questionable things, but that doesn't remove the fact that they're amazing drummers.
Yeah, when we start giving shit to Varg Vikernes and his beliefs, than we can have this talk. Varg has been way more vocal and way more extreme in his views while being a, frankly, larger and more influential part of metal than Phil.
Personally, what Phil believes is his fucking business and no one else. This bullshit of complaining about what someone does on the basis of personal views is none of your fucking business, it's none of my fucking business, and making a song and dance about it is unnecessary.
This "forcing people to admit to the crime of expression a fucking opinion that the majority doesn't hold" is the kind of shit SJWs do.
Varg is a convicted murder. A total scumbag in my opinion.
+SpectreSoundStudios
Okay, and the rest of points? You know, the ones about expecting people to apologize for expressing a fucking opinion?
Edit: 5 hours later and not a peep.
Make me so happy when you put this video up rock on
You should make a podcast. I would definitely listen, and I'm sure many others would too!
Racism is not something that makes sense in metal. Racism requires a level of belief in authoritarianism. You have to accept the idea of a hierarchy as a moral state that is static by virtue of superficial traits.
Metal is inherently anti-authoritarian, and loudly so.
Didn't that racist Phil Anselmo try to excuse it by saying it was because he had white wine in the back and they were drinking it or some shit? Totally uncalled for and I don't accept his apology.
not only that but he's done this many many times, and had speeches about it too.
Almost perfect but the sign off should have been "Can you rock?!" lol I know it's an older vid but good shit
I am an African American. I'm also an old school Metal-head. Priest. Accept. Dio. Metallica. Megadeth. Slayer. Coroner. Kreator. I grew up with that racist mentality all around me. But i had no choice. I LIVED for the music, so I refused to stop listening to it. Hell, if my history served me right, the Blues reached the kids, where it became Rock 'n' Roll. Then became louder and experimental...Hard Rock. Then got faster and more technical...Metal. Then splintered off to Thrash, Power, Death, slowed down with Stoner, got 'complicated' through Prog, and got on the radio with Pop, and Glam...yet NO ONE acknowledges the roots...the Church and Gospel, as perceived by African and Caribbean slaves. So there IS no place for racism in Metal. And if I ever meet you, Glenn, the first round will be on me! Thank you for your input...VERY much appreciated!
It's not first time Anselmo has screamed his white pride racist bs at a show and not the first time he's apologized for it. If somebody keeps doing something, it generally means they're not sorry.
How would you feel if you'd have to record a band who randomly throws Nazi salutes and is known for assiociating heavily with the whole southern pride bs ? Would you be all "hey it's okay, long as you play" ? I don't think so. Appologizing like 10 year old without meaning it is not "pretty fucking cool". especially if you been doin' it for 20 years. It doesn't just matter "can you play" to me: if someone crosses the line and is blatantly affiliating with KKK on the regular, I couldn't give two fucks if he can play or not.
+SlikkTim yeah
Keep southern pride away from Nazism please, not all of us are resist fuckheads
Couple things.
1. It’s not necessarily some people’s apology to accept. I’m still contemplating forgiving the man. White power doesn’t really offend you unless you have someone you love, someone you would die for that is a person of color. Child, Wife, significant other etc.
2. I have heard some horror stories about being 1 of the 7 black guys in an audience out of 100 + people. No, not everyone there is racist most of the metal community is wholesome and inclusive. But if everyone is head banging and drunk af, who is going to save me from getting lynched, spit on, etc? These are real issues that still happen, and the people that do this evil are smart, they know it’s always best to act when no one is around or paying attention. I have no doubt if a bunch of drunk skin heads were following and harassing me at a Slayer concert I would be saved by some sober metal brethren who see what is happening.
Still not sure about the apology after all of this time. I love Pantera, but this reminds me of how I felt when I found out my favorite author, H.P Lovecraft wrote a poem about me being lynched.
After the last : "The only thing that matter is : Can you play?", I was expecting a : "Except if you're a bass player, in which case we know you don't."
The best metal singer is gay, the best rock rock singer is gay, the best piano player is gay, and one of the pop artist is gay. Seems to be a pattern here.
+Ryan robinson music If it means anything, maybe it's that gay people have very, very good reasons to make amazing, emotionally moving music.
rok muzic iz shit its satanik end fredy marcuri suxxxs.
Jeremy Estruc Piss off. Why are you even here?
+Jeremy Estruc lol
+Ryan robinson music So I gathered it's Judas Priest, Queen, Elton John, and...George Michael?
OR metal is nothing more than a genre of music (and more broadly, art) that, like any form of art, can be used express literally anything the artist wants - yes, even if you consider it hateful, yes, even if you consider it vile, yes, even if it shakes you to your very core. Art is not and _was never_ meant to be all sunshine and rainbows, otherwise every song in the world would be a vapid, soulless carbon copy of "Cumbaya" and you know it. I think bands that promote fascist or other such propaganda are conveying a stupid message, sure, but I'll never trample their absolute right (in the US, at least) to convey that stupid message through metal music. Saying shit like "metal isn't about that!" is just a No True Scotsman dodge, and if you truly want to combat those kinds of messages, you have precisely ONE option that will have any effect whatsoever: Don't support their music. That includes not supporting them monetarily, but more importantly not standing up on your soapbox and trying to shout them down/censor them. Censors are the useful idiots of provocateurs because taboo = attractive, no matter how much you wish it weren't so.
TL;DR - I'm a massive fucking racist and me having an even remotely dissenting opinion means I support the Third Reich 2.0, or something. I'm sure that's all that virtue signaling retards walk away with when they read comments like mine, because muh emoshunz is more importent then reezon FUG U NAWZI 😭😭😭
Acrassicauda is now in the states. James Hetfield gave them one of his guitars.
The thing is, either you are racist or you are not racist. Apologizing for a nazi salute doesn't mean you are no longer a racist, it means you got caught out. I loved Pantera but I won't be buying any music from someone who judges people according to their skin colour.
Who the fuck cares .... metal was never supposed to be political correct ... and racism will never go away
Ok Hitler
I don't think its fair to even have the conversation "racism in metal" when mainstream hiphop has been racist since its inception, AND, anselmo's specific circumstance was that he was tired of people calling him a racist and skinhead because of the way he looks, so he did the salute to piss people off and it got out of hand. WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S THE MOTIVATION behind what he did is irrelevant. We have rappers with names like "ghostface killer" which is a racist name no matter how you slice it, and Wu tang gets mentioned on mainstream sources constantly. If its ok to be a racist rapper or rap group, then let the one or two out of every 1,000 metal bands that want to be racist alone and let them be racist too. Fair is fair. Its actually alot less common to see racism in metal than most other genres because metal is the genre of outcasts and outcasts know how it feels to be ostracized and tend to be accepting. With a few exceptions, metal is pretty much racism free, and the few examples of racist metal bands are already disavowed... again, UNLIKE IN HIPHOP which is more mainstream, and embraces their racist artists. So this shouldn't be a conversation. Not 4 years ago, and not today.
Ghostface Killah is taken from a karate flick. Learn your facts before you spew fucking bullshit out your mouth.
The fact you had to go talk about whole OTHER genre instead of acknowledging white metal guys can be insensitive towards minorities shows how unwilling you are to admit there’s a problem.
As an Asian guy I’ve experienced more racism in metal than hip hop. Sucks because I liked that music but go on about how knowledgeable you are.
@@noodlehoppa7212 I am aware of the origin of the name, and no matter how you slice it, its a racist name. We have COUNTLESS examples of hip hop racism, and hip hop is mainstream. Hip hop's racism is universally accepted. And as an asian person, I'm sure you'll continue to experience racism until you start looking at yourself as a human being instead of a race modifier. And as far as you personally experiencing more racism in metal, you must have lived in the one area on the planet where racism in metal is tolerated, because I've been in the metal community since the early 80's and I know damn well that racism in metal is almost nonexistent. As a matter of fact, aside from a few racist bands over the decades, I've met maybe 25 fans in metal in my lifetime, that were racist. So maybe you're not getting friction because you're asian, maybe its because you're an asshole who is too busy identifying yourself as asian to make friends and enjoy yourself. Or maybe its all in your head. Who knows. But my original point stands, and you've only proven it more true. Especially since it can't be argued that hip hop tolerates racism in its ranks, and racist artists win awards, get radio play, etc. The reason I brought that conversation up is because THAT is a problem. There's not enough racism in metal for it to EVER be a problem. The metal community has always been accepting. Just because metal heads don't like YOU doesn't mean they're racist. Don't come over here trying to piss on facts.
@@bryanharrison3889 Bravo! you've shouted the mouth of that black racism apologist!
@@bryanharrison3889 Hip Hop isn't racist, what you talking about? Ever heard of the BEASTIE BOYS or 3RD BASE? White dudes which are respected by most of black rap artists. WU's Ghostface ist a massive superhero comic lover. Why is that name racist? Because you say so?
Anselmo has a history with racism thing. Pantera's song A New Level is an example. When it comes to the live version, Anselmo says white power.
good vid but was anyone else distracted by the computer recording him you can see the Soundwave and the monitor blinking with every sound of his voice.