The Original Untold Story of Xenoblade Chronicles X | Artbook Analysis & Speculation ft. SparksOpus
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Xenoblade Chronicles X was originally planned to be a very different game, leading to the Original Untold Narrative being Lost to time. Within this video, I attempt to uncover the truth as to what the original story would have been like 👍
Massive thanks to SparksOpus for helping with this video, go blow up his socials: / @sparksopus
Sources:
Iwata Asks - Xenoblade Chronicles X (2015): iwataasks.nintendo.com/interv...
Takahashi Tweeting about the beginning of Development: www.siliconera.com/xenoblade-...
Xenoblade X Announcement: www.siliconera.com/inspired-b...
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Development: nintendowire.com/news/2017/11...
Xenomira.Wordpress.com links:
Xenoblade X Com Device Translation: xenomira.wordpress.com/2019/0...
Art Of Mira Translations: xenomira.wordpress.com/2021/0...
Pax Prime 2015 Translation: xenomira.wordpress.com/2019/0...
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0:00 Intro
2:27 The Development of Xenoblade Chronicles X
9:01 The Original Protagonist
11:57 Japan's Arc Ship: New Tokyo
13:34 The Forgotten Party Member
16:04 The Black Knight Rises Again
18:50 Other Cut Characters: Dad & Emily
20:49 Neilnail & The Qlurian Race
24:00 L'cirufe & Moebius 1.0
26:24 The Samaarian Federation
28:15 The Ghosts
30:19 The Original Story of Xenoblade Chronicles X
38:07 Thanks For Watching 😊
Songs In Order:
Xenoblade Chronicles X - Mono X: • Mono X - Xenoblade Chr...
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - Alba Cavanich (Night): • Alba Cavanich - Night ...
Xenoblade Chronicles Future Redeemed - Black Mountains ~ Valak Mountain (Day): • Black Mountain ~ Valak...
Xenoblade Chronicles X - Melancholia (Instrumental): • Karaoke - Melancholia,...
Xenoblade Chronicles DE - Eryth Sea (Night): • Eryth Sea (Night) - Xe...
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 - Words That Never Reached You (Battle): • Words That Never Reach...
Xenoblade Chronicles DE - The Battle Is Upon Us: • The Battle is Upon Us ...
Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Torna - Auresco, Royal Capital (Day): • Auresco, Royal Capital...
Xenoblade Chronicles DE - Central Factory: • Central Factory - Xeno...
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 - Young Warriors: czcams.com/users/results?searc...
Xenoblade Chronicles DE - Roar From Beyond: • Roar from Beyond (Fina...
Xenoblade Chronicles X - Theme X: • Theme X - Xenoblade Ch...
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 - The Bereaved and Those Left Behind: • The Bereaved and Those...
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The game will receive its next chance in 2025... as XCXDE obviously!
Honestly though, thank you for the collab man :D Was a really nice experience to work on these videos with another passionate xeno-creator! May this game get another chance soon...
Thanks for joining us and was glad to be a part of your video as well :)
In 2025 aspecially since it will have released 10 years ago in 2025
Our hope for XcX never fade... Hahahah
@@JBspherefreak Great job on the Collab!
Great job on the Collab!
The game-est game ever
Also to correct one point, there was actually plans for NLA to be New York as stated in the E3 interview by takahashi himself talking about the vision for the game while the devs were playing the game for us all to watch.
This is a thing that was mentioned but from what I can gather, New York was only an idea for a brief window of time and its difficult to piece together where New Tokyo ended and an America began
new new york?
@alfiewilliams2852 he said they couldnt do it because the buildings were too complex in development and wouldnt work on the hardware if it was to be 'true' open world.
@Implosion-Gaming I was just joking, mate.
I’m sure there is a New York Space Ark somewhere out there, at the very least
when Luxin did a video on the artbook a couple of years ago he brought up some interesting points on the black knight. He speculated that the black knight could actually be the original protagonist, mentioning the trope of characters previously thought dead reappearing in full body disguises later on, which xenoblade has done in the past.
I've always assumed the Black Knight was the skell pilot from the beginning.
If I watch this and there's no bringer of chaos....
09:00 that mic quality switch haha 😆
This is a fascinating video oh my goodness, i love learning about this game's development
Monolithsoft should do a “definitive edition” with extra story. Like SMT V vengeance and persona 5 royal.
They can fix the story and add the stuff they need to connect all the games
This becomes the same issue with Xenosaga tho. How much do you change and by the end can you still call it the same game?? Personally, I feel as if they will either bring back X as it is with QOL updates and the such (With a DLC story) OR just re-write the game entirely and give us something completely new. Doing something in the middle just creates this awkward mix where some fans and people will be upset because aspects they liked were change. From a development perspective, it makes more sense to either commit to it entirely or not all
@JBspherefreak i think they move on to something new, like what they did with xenoblade 2. Maybe hints to Xenoblade X, for those who played, but most joining wont need to play x. Maybe they can rerelease x after a sequel, but by then, it'll be past 10 years old...idk how well it will age
@@JBspherefreak I think it's the other way around; keeping the original story but adding onto it and tweaking it in a few small ways tends to work better than a complete reinvention; hence why something like Persona 5 Royal generally went over better with longtime fans than Final Fantasy VII Remake.
@Implosion-Gaming when did Dragon's Dogma 1 release considering 2 is coming/out?
THIS GAME NEEDS A SEQUEL I THIRST FOR IT THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS SO UNDERDEVELOPED AND HAS SO MUCH POTENTIAL MORE SO THAN ANY OTHER XENO SPIN-OFF LIKE PLEASE MONOLITH PLEASE I THIRST FOR IT or remake it T_T.
I love this game so much
After downloading all the data packs the game runs smoother than any xenoblade game on switch docked im ngl (considering all xenoblade's worlds are loaded by region on switch). Also helps to restart the wii u often in between playthroughs (ik some people leave the wii u/switch on for days and it takes up ram/cache)
I very much disagree. I have hours of footage of X that would contradict that. The game whilst built for the Wii U and as optimised as possible has serious graphical and performance issues, most of which I never see on the switch games which are heavily optimised as well
@JBspherefreak the texture pop in and loading times are reduced heavily with the data packs and dont look nearly as bad as your videos. Its wild how different a data pack makes. Theyre all high resolution versions of the games textures since they compressed it to fit on disk. (i have the disc vers so i had to download the packs to make pop in and load times less noticeable). Theres no more sandy or rough edges in the games textures when using the data packs either so pop in doesnt look as you described.
@@Implosion-Gaming Thats the thing...all the footage you see recorded is from the Wii U version (Not Emulator) with the Data Packs installed. Sure, CZcams compression may make it look worse but the loading times and such is on original hardware
@JBspherefreak are they downloaded to system storage then, or are you using an external hard disk drive/usb? The external data will slow down the game more and this even applies to downloading games on the switch sd card vs internal storage if you check loading time videos for xenoblade 2 and 3. The games are somewhat storage speed limited at how fast objects load in. Youll notice this especially in 2 during the gormott sequence, its so rough around the edges how they made cutscenes work in 2. Optimized a lot in 3. And x is the only xenoblade that has every continent loaded in at once.
@JBspherefreak Also youre forgetting the switch runs xenoblade 2 and 3 at a LOWER resolution Natively and are using that to generate more framerate, while also being able to using MS taa UPSCALING to produce the high quality 720p/1080p cutscenes we praise the games for. But if you take the switch out of the dock youll see their resolution scaling technology at work and see the entire parties model resolution drop significantly to accommodate for the smaller screen and the fact its using battery now to run. Also the resolution will drop and the fan speed will increase if the game gets too many objects on it at once. A lot of smart development tricks were used to make us think botw even looks better than it does.
Well done guys. This was both entertaining and informative! 👏✨
I can't wait for a sequel to xenoblade chronicles x! We need it! Come on monolithsoft!!!❤️🇯🇵🗾
I have so many memories of playing with my friends in the multiplayer mode but the original version of the game sounds really cool. Tough choice
I love this game at it is because of the gameplay and i wouldnt want to miss anything. I think the story does its job even if the cliffhanger is hard to digest but yes it could be so much more.
I hope a revisit is happening sonner than later and maybe we get to see more of the unused content. I would love an Integration into the other Xenoblade Titles. It would make this universum so great to explore further beyond mira
to be honest I don't think it matters if it connects to the Klaus saga or not, I don't think it can but anyway I'd love to play a Xenoblade X DE
In it's current state no but thats likely because much of the plot was changed and re-applied into XC2 and 3. What you really notice after playing X is just how many similarities the two series have whilst never necessarily being the same. I'm fairly confident that X is just a pot of ideas that Monolith has been dipping into ever since and that a new X story would follow that general structure and story but use the modifed elements like the Ares actually being an Ouroboros and so on
I agree. Ideally, I’d like to see Nintendo get the Xenogears trademark from Square and have Xenoblade Chronicles X remade, re-written, completed, and rebranded into Xenogears Episode 1 (or Episode 0, since technically Episode 1 comes a bit later on the timeline).
@@JBspherefreak also the testament/Mobius looking black knight was never explained
came from Sparks video, really cool content guys
38:51 in reference to the later question, I would have preferred a standard Xenoblade story, but the game as it is was till good
We've missed you!
I don't know, I enjoyed the story of a city from Earth landing on a planet and being forced to survive, and then later on thrive, is a much more interesting story than the other Xenoblade games. I mean, I've played Xenogames since Xenogears (and even the proto-Xenogears games of FF6 and Chrono Trigger) and Xenoblade Chronicles's story was more or less a stripped down Xenogears set in Bionis and Mechonis, and it felt like a lot of stuff fell flat because of what was cut out.
And I love the Xenoblade world, that's my favourite element of the game - especially Makna Forest and Fallen Arm. Interesting, the concept of vertical worlds with one living and one mechanical, was done by a dev team related to Tetsuya Takahashi. His first studio was Nihon Falcom, who made Xanadu. They licensed Faxanadu, a sidescrolling adventure game with RPG elements where you climb a giant living vertical tree world and enter a mechanical mountain via a branch, not unlike the sword of Bionis. There's little doubt Takahashi played this gem in his formative years as a developer. The Bionis world is one of my favourites in an RPG, and Faxanadu was one of my favourite NES games. Also, much like Xenoblade, Faxanadu featured "The Evil One" who was an alien entity that had been influencing and controlling the dwarves of the mountain into becoming more aggressive.
Anyway, to answer the closing question. I like the current Xenoblade Chronicles X, but it could use more polish. But anything Tetsuya Takahashi does well can only be a good thing. The game is already massive, and the longest Xenoblade game, but asking for even more content than what exists is always a good thing.
I'm wondering if XCX was envisioned as the possible basis for the remake and sequel of Xenogears that Monolithsoft was created to make. It would probably have to be done under the Xenoblade banner, since (while Tetsuya Takahashi has copyrights to his own work) Square Enix owns the Xenogears trademark.
gran video
So the explosions on Earth's surface were annihilation events? I feel like that line about matter and antimatter cancelling out and /cough "leaving only light" /cough is awfully familiar, too.
I want the X series to become xenoblade's versjon of final fantasy 14
25:00 L'cirufe is a reference to Lucifer, and judging by how his fellows look, I think the whole species would've been an allegory for fallen angels. Whether they would've been villains, or heroic allies in an ironic twist, I'm not sure, but I think the Moebius speculation here is spot-on; some have likened Z to being Xenoblade's "Satan", based on his design and how he trapped humanity in a world of their own desires.
Speaking of Moebius, Celica's armored design at 23:01 looks quite similar to Consul M, heh.
Thanks for making this. I think I would have enjoyed your version. Seeing more alien races come together to fight a common enemy would have been cool and given a more driven story throughout, but I kind of do like the sparse nature of final product that we have. It adds to the open world in a way. We have to piece all our interactions together to get a sense of the lore and world. It feels more sci-fi than getting walked through a more conventional narrative. I know, there are too many things to really connect and remember on one play through, but that gives it replayability, in my opinion. I loved the world of Mira and NLA. I hope we see a sequel or spiritual successor to X specifically with Skells and other interesting Alien races. I also loved the verticality of the world and gameplay that is not as present in the mainstream Xenoblade games.
You are aware that you can eat a potato, unlike Tatsu.
I'm caught between waiting for a well deserved remake and wishing Monolith would just release the script for closure, I finally understand how people waiting for old N64 and Gamecube titles feel.
0:55 I feel concerned
Obviously they could totally make use of a lot of the cut stuff for a sequel, right?
please.
more xenoblade X content🗣🗣🗣🗣
Obviously, I want the game or sequel to come to Switch. That said, seeing all the dropped content makes me wonder if part of the reason they didn’t put it on the Switch was because it wasn’t originally a finished product.
I think the major reason would likely be due to Hardware limitations. Sparks goes over it more in his video but the Switch would not have ran this game well at all. Perhaps there is some element of this game being unifinshed that led to no re-make or re-master ever being released but that is just one of many issues
@@JBspherefreak In the past, I never understood the "hardware" argument because it wasn't DS games where putting them on other consoles would be a tech nightmare. I'll have to watch Sparks video if I remember, but it's strange to think the game as it was couldn't be run on the Switch despite not having all of the content.
@jalengaskin8450 its 100% because the switch cant run it. I made this argument so many times in the past. Finally people are waking up to the switch's limitations and remember its a tegra x1 card sold en masse by nvidia because their GAMING IPAD failled as a concept and nintendo bought their stock. Ive been saying this for years before 3.
@@Implosion-Gaming I think people have always been “awake” to the Switch’s limitations since BotW, but probably didn’t know the full scope of what that meant.
To be clear, I don’t know what kind of conversation you’ve had with this topic, just that I’ve never heard people say “the Switch could run any game”
@jalengaskin8450 ive had to argue against that exact argument and I tell fans to stop being fanboys and acknowledge their good faith in the nintendo switch will somehow make third party devs develop for it but its far too weak still. Frames drop consistently in xenoblade 2 and 3 and are notorious for updates and patches to fix their rushed development. There a still current graphical glitches in 3 with map data and polygons being messed up in certain areas. A few users have videos showing these development oversights in each game but the switch had to have so many sacrifices to make xenoblade even work, i mean check xenoblade 2's opening with gormott, graphical glitches in the cutscene and no animals visible from the distance we get that cutscene. On emulators it looks much nicer to see gormott first time. Its just a bit underwhelming to see the series have to jump through hurdles because of nintendos lack of urgency towards better hardware.
At this point. I think about how could a even a sequel to X look like. Vaatividya, the biggest From Software CZcams once had a contest for his audience for a bloodborne 2 setting. So why don't you let us brainstorm for a possible sequel to X? How it would look, what could we expect (even if it Dont come to live in the next years probably)?
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I speculated and made a video on a X sequel actually a lil while ago. It's admittedly outdated by this point but it still does outline a possible sequel idea but it just depends what direction X was originally meant to go in which is difficult since its only half complete or so
Yo, if you want to understand L you just have to read Childhood's End. He doesn't actually share much with Moebius at all. That book actually contextualizes a ton of stuff in the game in general.
Inhales the densest copium to ever exists* later 2025, Nintendo Direct, Monolith Soft logo appears in the screen, new Xenoblade X remaster announced with a redo of the story featuring a new main protagonist with actual character development and retcons to fit better in the better-stablished-now xenoblade universe . . . trailer seems to end BUT WAIT, an scene of the arc falling into Mira appears in the screen and then it's announced: the additional precuel story content with the hero from the past of the story where we can play a "short" story of how the hero protected Mira with Elma and helped the early humans in Mira to live there. Ends the Direct, absolute cinema
Its not that much Copium compared to what the Saga fanbase is smoking rn 😂
It's not like Monolith Soft needs the money, but y'know what? It might be fine if they just edited & released the "novel" of the original story of Xenoblade X to tell that original story for people who spent the last 10 years not buying the game. Monolith Soft has made it clear that it's not an easy port-job like bringing The Witcher 3 or Skyrim to Switch. As someone who bought Xenoblade X at launch and played through it at least 3 times, I really want them to spend their game-dev time & money making Xenoblade X2.
Coming to xeno post X, I would love for them to do a remaster sooooo much. Hell, if not I'll buy a Wii u JUST for it. I have it emulated on PC but it's just not quite the same.
I remember there being a comment an NPC in X makes about humans being strong (might not be the exact adjective, but same idea) enough to take on the Samaar federation and the section you had at the end I feel could actually show that happening. As much as I already love X I can't help but wish we lived in the world where the development wasn't derailed (and possibly also had a game where the MMO idea was baked in from the start.). It seems the online features were put in to give X more appeal but they weren't that great and it derailed a lot of the rest of the game so it's kind of like we got the worst of both worlds. Really makes me wonder how much more I'd enjoy the hypothetical game
How the fuck did I get my internal clock off by a whole fucking year?
Do you think its 2025?? 😂
@@JBspherefreak No, I thought X came out in 2014 for some reason!
It dossent make sense to destroy the rose garden. I beleve the hunans on mira wuld use it to find the other surviving project exodus colony shipps as well as using it to Hunt down the ghosts
Why wouldn't it? The Samaar federations Mothership would pose a huge threat, one that couldn't just be shoved aside by comandeering the ship and on top of that, the Ma-Non quoted that they have more advanced tech then the Samaarians anyway so why wouldn't they just use their existing alliances?
“The game would be made into a pseudo MMO experience for the sake of taking advantage of the Wii U’s online capabilities”
Club Penguin and Dark Souls 1 had far more online interactivity than the entirety of the Wii U
I'm not saying the Online Capabilities of the Wii U were good but there's no chance that Nintendo wouldn't have had them incorporate some form of Online aspect if the Devs didn't decide to themselves anyway
XCX 2 on new Switch😢😭
It wasnt an unfinished mess. I was really dissapointed with the main story yes. But the environments look better than the best of the mainline series and it ran as well as them as well. It would be a technological marvel on the switch, never mind the wii u. Good video otherwise though!
I should point out that I love this game and it's arguably my favourite Xeno game but it is still an unifinished mess... ever since I beat this game back in 2015, I've felt the same way that the story was incomplete. Since then, I've looked at many other aspects and could consider it a mess. This game is still great and is still one of my favourites but it is still an unfinished mess
@@JBspherefreakThere are definitely areas where that's the case. I suppose I just find the open world an incredible technical achievement, but you do credit it in the video to be fair. Keep up the good work
@khalimblank i always thought movies and books that left cliffhangers weren't bad and just left more to be expected...idk how its unfinished, rather than, they just scaled back a grand vision in order to develop something worthwhile with their limited time. This way we can get expansions of the plot elements without tiring the player with information. We have 6 different races in game currently and each have their own intertwining stories with multiple endings. I feel like they had a vision and stuck to their own development cycle to keep themselves from repeating a xenosaga /xenogears horror of development...
While im sad much of the story was scrapped. it isn't the end of the world. Xenoblade 1 was intended to be standalone and then was added to. If they do go back to x, they could always give us repurposed bits of story in a sequel or a FC/FR style add-on.
I think expecting so much out of a DLC story would be so much as the current game is probably between 50 to 60% complete at most. That said, I do see a possibility of them releasing that original story and original vision once again in a new re-branded XCX experience
@JBspherefreak oh i dont mean they glue the original story to what x is now. More that elements of the scraped story can be recycled and reinterpreted for potential sequels. Like how saga takes a lot of backstory from perfect works.
I think I get what you mean but every game Xeno game Takahashi has written takes from Perfect Works. I defo feel now that the next game "Xenoblade 4" will be an adaption of this original planned story with elements of Xenosaga and a new twist to keep it fresh for folks who have played X previously
I really really wonder if this game was originally intended as a xenoblade 1 sequel, lots of elements in the Artbook just remind me of Xenoblade 2/3 stuff, and that became the sequel to 1... This game's development is an infinite rabbit hole
@JBspherefreak im going to be brave and predict the new plot will somehow be the zohar's fault. Glory to the shit stiring cross. ✝️
So basically you're saying that a lot of X's lost story became a big chunk of 3's story? Cuz a lot of it sounds very similar to 3. I wonder if that was actually the goal after this game didn't turn out how they wanted it to 🤔
I’d say it’s a bit deeper then that. Many aspects of X were also implemented into 2 in some form or another like the Wrothians being very similar to the Gormotti with similar lore.
The thing is, it’s unclear whether these connections are the same or re-adaptions of the ideas cos ultimately, you could remake X as it is but replace these aspects either way their new versions and things largely remain the same
Can you check the SparksOpus link? It doesnt work apparently
Fixed, thanks for pointing that out 👍
I hope this game gets a second chance. it is my favorite in the series despite its flaws.
just dont censor the outfits.
X must come to the Switch it's tood good, I'm sure regular Xenoblade gamers think they are scared of X taking over
What do you mean by take over? This game is all but dead on the switch tho I'm sad to say... sure theres a good chance for their next console but it just wont happen on the switcj
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Online capabilities weren't the main reason the scope was cut down, it was mostly because the devs wanted to focus on making their first hd game because they were inexperienced, this is why they focused on gameplay rather than story and Takahashi also says this is why they made the avatar.
At Pax they explained more of Nielnail and her race saying that they're race is, saying that their "planet was the final destination for ancient earthlings who left Earth several tens of thousands of years ago. This is why Celica shares a similar appearance and has similar DNA structures." And they also said Neilnail was the leader. They seem to be extrememly important which is why they're being saved for later.
About L, I don't think he used plural words in Jp, although I haven't checked in a while. That seems to just have been added in EN thing to show his poor understanding of english.
The Shion party member seems to have just become Lin, Lin also used to have a buni emblem she wore like Shion so it seems they got turned into her slowly.
My own idea of the black knight is that he's going to be a person who seemed to have died and got brought back to life since that's already happened like 3 times in xeno and already happened with Lao. They'll either from earth or from the white whale attacks since a lot of characters are briefly mentioned in side stories without much else, I specifically think they'll be the lone hero because their return on the opposite side will make some drama with Elma. And they'll probably also be led by some bigger character like always who wants to work for the greater good or something.
It's literally stated by the interviews that this was the major reason and that Development took a massive turn at this point. I'm sure this being their first HD game also played a factor but it wouldn't result in the game being so wishy washy after 5 years of development
I did know about the Pax info but was unsure how much of this was actually kept in for the game since it was seemingly cut from the Artbook. The Qlurians are for the most part a massive mystery anyway so I tried to leave out as much speculation as possible
I'm not sure about the JP version either. I asked our resident translator Lugalbanda as well but they didn't know off the top of their head either
Reina and Lin are for sure similar but I feel there is a large enough distinction between them thanks to the mention of Sakuraba. If Reina truly was just a different rendition of Lin, I feel as if this aspect would have remained the same also but who can say
It's hard to say. I agree if you look at X from its current state as that would make sense but based on the original story, it doesn't so much. The idea I mentioned before goes into the Eternal Recurrence stuff and loops back to the line about teh Samaarians arriving at the dawn of the cosmos but its tricky
@@JBspherefreak Takahashi has said this being their first HD is the reason they cut the story.
"In RPG development, the sections that cost the most are the cut scenes and events in the main story. Since this is Monolith Soft's first high-definition open world title, we decided to focus less on these and instead shift our resources into improving the quality of the gameplay - which is most important - especially the "hack and slash" combat. This is the reason that we decided to make the player's character an avatar without a real personality."
“We deliberately distanced ourselves from having philosophical themes intertwined with the core of the story. Given that we at Monolith Soft had no experience with developing HD titles, our goal with this project was to experiment with and implement the assorted tech skills we needed for HD game development. We decided that trying to balance that with an epic theme-laden story would pose difficulties. Our hope is that we can start by creating the core system, then expand on the story and thematic elements in our future project.”
Exactly...i feel like they knew what they were getting into and prepared to not repeat a xenosaga mistake and plan more than theyre ready for. By segmenting the story this way they save money, time, and build suspense for future plotpoints to be expanded upon as theyve clearly been doing...even chances for crossovers
@JBspherefreak Luxaar mentions the Qlu system being the only other race in the galaxy to have Tri-on barrier technology. Those lines were intentional hints for future plotpoints while also serving as a mechanism for the player to wonder what other technology exists that humanity is capable of using. At least thats how i view these things in developing a cutscenes narrative. Every line is usually important in the voiced scenes. I assume this wasnt dropped and will be introduced later.