Seiko Comparison - SKX007 / SRP773 Turtle / SBDC033 Sumo
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I'm taking a look at 3 very popular and excellent Seiko dive watches. We're comparing the Seiko SKX007, the Seiko SRP773 Turtle, and the Seiko SBDC033 Sumo. These Seiko diver's watches have each been previously reviewed and now we'll take a close look at them and do a compare and contrast.
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I bought the turtle 777 yesterday. What a classy elegant sporty watch. The Lume is fantastic!!! Rubber strap. Man I love it!!!
Almost satisfied me to death with those synchronized second hands.
I try to do this when showing multiple watches on screen, as it makes the presentation less distracting when everything is lined up, and easier to focus on the talking points - at least in my opinion.
@@JustBlueFish you are a good man. A very good man.
Great review! I've got a few older ( late 70's) 6309-7040 & 6309-7049 turtles that I modded over the years that just make me happy for the price paid, when looing for the new turtle I found the blue dial on a bracelet for the great price of 230.00, had the list price on the box and hangtag of 495.00! Anyway I thought about letting the new turtle go but then I realized there was nothing better I could replace it for at that price point and just kept it..
those vintage turtles are cool collectables, very nice, your collection must be awesome. Thanks for watching.
Exactly the comparison I was looking for!
I hope it was helpful, thanks for watching.
I now own all three of these Seiko watches being a Blumo , a Padi Turtle, and a skx009. To me the Blumo is definitely the best watch but with that being said each watch has something that I absolutely love about it . Picking a favorite is hard because each one has its strengths but I am very bias towards the Blumo 👍🏻
One thing to note. The Sumo and Turtle have an additional divers extension built into the clasps.
Seiko watches are addictive, I started with a 009, then a turtle and now considering a Sumo or a SBDC053
The SBDC053 looks really nice. I’d really like to check one of them out, but the price tag it a hair on the high side for me to buy it on a whim. If you get one let me know how you like it.
Right on... very addictive... and so are Orients...
I think WE're sick. Need to find a cure to.......Oh look a Seiko MAS diver !!
MrBacchus18 Started with an SKX009 as well, followed by a Dracula Monster, and now a black Sumo. It’s a guilty pleasure we indulge in 😩
Ok, technically I started with a Gen II Orange Monster and stupidly sold it
I think the Turtle is the best value, I love the style and vintage look. I could understand not liking the cushion case though. Can’t say I’m liking the look of the Sumo at all.
The Sumo is my least favorite of the trio.
Great video. Really helped me understand the difference. I bought a Pepsi sumo.
Through all my research, talking to people, personal experience, and forum reading the only thing better about the 6r movement over the 4r is the power reserve which isn't really an issue. The different spring in the 6r is just a different spring bc it has to be bc of more power reserve, nothing performance based. They are both 21600 bph. Both can be hit and miss with accuracy. Ive actually heard more complaints about the 6r and serious complaints and problems with it in the SARB models. The 4r is a workhorse that just works and goes. It has the hacking and winding as we all know and a better rep I think. In my experience it has been more accurate and reliable. I think the Turtle, esp the PADI, Batman,and Blue Lagoon are the best looking and all around diver under 500 or even 1000 $ in my opinion.
I don't know specifically why, but aside from the longer power reserve found in the 6r15 movement it also has a higher tolerance for accuracy from the factory. The 6r15 has a specification of -15 to +25 seconds per day, while the 4r35 series of movements have a spec of -35 to + 45 seconds per day. This difference probably has something to do with the Spron Mainspring found in the 6r series of movements, but I'm not entirely sure.
Just to add a data point to this, my SARB033 is dead on accurate on the wrist, usually +/- 2spd. It's also predictably easy to regulate by leaving it on a table either dial up to speed it up or crown up to slow it down. It's pretty rare that my SARB is more than 5 secs off from atomic time. In contrast, I also have an SKX and an NH35 powered Invicta, and both are noticeably more difficult to keep regulated. I've actually cracked them open before to correct them, while I've never felt the need to do that with the SARB. Even after that they tend to have a larger range of daily variance than the SARB.
Just saying... the difference may only be in the springs, but it is noticeable, and helps justify the price difference IMHO.
Every 6R15 Seiko I have is far more accurate that the listed specs of +/- given by Seiko. My SARB065 is within +/-2sec
I think this is the only comparison of these three watches on CZcams. Great video!
Thanks, glad you liked it.
A 4r36 movement (NH36) can be had for less than $50. I think you need a new crown and stem, also. Then upgrade the bracelet to a Strapcode and *viola* you have a super upgraded SKX...
for the price of a Sumo.
I had considered doing a 4r36 mod on an SKX but I think you also have to replace the crown with one from a SARB059, and last time I checked those were going for $90 on ebay. That brings the price up to the point past what I'd be willing to put into a DIY project.
Awesome video. I’ve been looking for diver watch and I’m partial to Seiko’s. Great value for the money. The video was spot on comparing three watches. I decided on the turtle and got it using your link. Great job and God bless for sharing your insights. Cheers.
Thanks Jose. I have a Seiko Samurai on loan and a review will be coming of that watch in the next week or so.
Nice video. I'm right there with you on the wish for an upgraded SKX. Same size case, applied indices, better lume, drilled lugs.I'd pay $500-$1000 happily, depending on the extent of the improvements to the movement and finishing. (And the bracelet, too.)
You have to wonder if Seiko is listening to customer feedback at all or not. A new "Prospex" version of the SKX with those upgrades would be a hot seller I'm guessing. Fingers crossed we get one sooner then later.
Sumo is another category.
The biggest problem with Seiko is the fact that they built the SKX …. they can try all they want , nothing and I mean , nothing is gonna take that spot ever , never , ever …. the best they could do in put and NH35A inside and a ceramic bezel on top and a soft rubber strap from the Turtle but icons are inmortal ….. that simple . Casio can build the most advanced digital watches in the planet but the DW56E is inmortal , Omega can build all the timepieces that they want and no one would slightly fog the image of the Seamaster and Rolex coyld do the same and there won't be another Rolex like the submariner .
Hand winding and hacking are huge advantages for the Turtle and Sumo
What a great video. These detailed (long) vids are interesting and very informative. Thank you.
Jose Casillas thanks I'm glad you like it.
JustBlueFish Side question here: How did you line up the second hand on the SKX? Thanks.
Set the Skx first and adjusted the other ones to start in time with it.
Catching up with your videos. I would have liked the Sumo if it did not have 52mm lugs. The top of my wrist measures 50mm, with 7 inch in circumference. I am told most Seikos wear smaller than their size, but the Sumo does not. Great belated review.
you want an skx with a hacking hand winding movement and the chrome outlined indices. you want an orient ray 2. I have 1, and it is good.
I’ve had and reviewed the Ray 2. Great watch.
Great review! You're coming up with excellent reviews. Glad I subbed.
Thanks appreciate it.
Great review and comparison. I really love how you even sync the three watches to the second. Shows how much care you take to be detailed. Good job.
Thanks for watching and commenting I appreciate it.
Honestly the SKX and the Sumo would bore me. A day/date is a must for me. I Love the turtles details and they are kust so beautiful. I just purchased the PADI because I wanted even more eye candy. The x in the dial and extra print add more interest to the watch. That is why the Turtles are my picks, especially when they come with colors.
What's the difference between the skx007J and the skx007j1
Also which is more valuable the skx007 or the 009?
Thank you
A the strap, rubber.
B neither, which will, after being discontinued, keep value better is equally hard to say.
Much appreciated video. Been comparing these exact watches recently, along with some Deep Blue copies.
Thanks for watching glad you found the video helpful.
Hi Im Korean. In this country, I can buy it 300,000won(srp773)
Is this cheap? I don't speak English well.....
Nice review! I love my seiko samurai and my first divers watch..now i want to get the skx 007 or 009 as they are very iconic and legendary watches!
Thanks for watching Scott. I haven't had the opportunity to review a Samurai yet. I was lucky enough to get the Turtle and Sumo in this review on loan from viewers, having a Samurai to compare as well would have been cool.
The camera work is excellent, great information and review...thanks JBF!
Thanks for watching and the feedback.
Tried many times... to love turtle but still failed. Ended still keeping my budget for nothing. Still remain as happy owner of skx009 w super jubilee. But will continue trying to convince myself to spend that budget for turtle.
When looking at the the watches my eyes always end up focusing on the skx. It's the better looking watch and just catches the eye. I don't like the pillow type case on the turtle and the sumo actually looks cheap to me.
I prefer the other SRP models like the baby tuna which I have and the other Seiko 5 watches with the 4R36.. but that is just me
The SKX is the winner in terms of style for me as well. Thanks for watching.
I have been thinking about the sumo Hulk for some time, watching this I see a few things that (after paying such a price) I would really not be happy with, the bracelet links and crown for example. My plan is to build a sumo homage in a no crown skx case. This video saved me hundreds of £'sss. Thank you
Thanks for the comparo Guy. Your franken watch can be had even cheaper ... in the form of the Orient Mako/Ray duo.
I picked up the Ray II a little while ago, I did review it, it's a very nice watch but I ended up gifting it to my father.
Please do this video again, but with the SBDC051/053 and the Monster (compare all five). Completely agree, lug-to-lug (L2L) length is such an important dimension of a watch. I can't wear anything over 52mm L2L on my 7' wrist.
Thanks for watching I appreciate it. I’d love to make that review, but I don’t have those watches. If you can talk Seiko into loaning me some watches I’ll do that review ASAP!
My new turtle runs at minus one to two seconds but it has a beat error of 1.0. Hm. I should regulate it. However, I thought it would be one of those buying regrets. And it was not. Although it is so chunky, it wears so well. As if it was not there until I look at it. One of my best watches. 🕐⚙️🍸
Nice, insightful video. Many thanks.
I like the SKX watch the most. I like the 4r36 movement the best. I know the 6r15 is a better movement, but it is missing the day which kills it for me. The Sumo is just way to big for me with that huge lug to lug width. 5 mm difference in lug to lug is tremendous.
JBF, you should do a wrist shot in the beginning of each video.
You can get a 6R16/NE16 with a day and date.
Great review. I will be a Sumo owner soon 👍🏻
Thanks!
You got it right when you said the sumo is the more dressier watch. It´s like a flashier alternative to r submariner.
Really well done comparison. It's funny I was given an Skx007 for Christmas less than a month ago. I like it so much I ordered an SRP773 turtle this morning and am shopping for a sumo now. After years of mostly wearing a Hamilton King scuba and a Seiko Monster these three watches seem to beat them both for comfort and value. I managed to sell my limited edition monster for enough to buy all 3 of the models in your review.
Wow sold a monster and getting all three? Awesome nice one. Enjoy them.
I forgot to mention I do enjoy your channel
Thanks Jack.
This is a very great comparison. Thank you!
Thanks!
I don.t know if you review these old videos, but if you do, there is a huge difference between the xks and the turtle. The difference is operating the watch, I want to throw the skx trying to set,wind and wear. The turtle is so much easier to operate. I know I'm in the minority,but my 009 is the worst bracelet I've ever worn the turtle much more comfortable. I got both on ebay the turtle was $ 10.00 more, we'll worth it.
I do see all the new comments posted, but not replies generally. I don't mind the 009 jubilee bracelet. It's not the highest quality but I find it comfortable.
Adding the bezel ring dimensions would be useful for the comparison.
Nice Video, as usual!!! I personally do like all the bracelets, but particularly the bracelet on the middle Watch for both the appearance & the size! 😊
Thanks Erik, i appreciate it.
JustBlueFish You're welcome! 💪
Shogun would've been a nice addition. Oh well, nicely done and much appreciated.
Thanks for watching. I agree but I don’t know anyone with a Shogun unfortunately. I’ve wanted to check one of them out for a long time.
Totally understandable brother. Your honest presentation is much appreciated. You're an asset to the watch community and your contribution is much appreciated, more so than you know. I want you to know that. Please keep it up! Have a nice day and remember that you're awesome!
Thank you I appreciate that.
@@JustBlueFish Funny, the first time I identified a fellow watch nerd in the real world, he was wearing a Shogun. :)
I'm owner of a skx007 and I love it I have and snzh59j1 and snzg17k1
Thanks for watching.
your welcome my friend
I think the thing makes them look so differently is the bazzel size?
It would have been handy to include comparison figures for the bezel and crystal diameters.
Really great review
This is an outstanding review!
Yo...Prospex watches have more cushion for the movements, I think it is called Diashock. They will take more of a beating and still be workable. Drop tested to 6' that kind thing. Prospex when it has to work.
Interesting thanks for the info.
Thanks. I've watched a dozen reviews and never hear that mentioned.
Diashock is just the name for Seiko's balance wheel shock protection. All of their mechanical watches have it.
I have on order a Seiko SNE281 divers watch. That's the black version of the one you previously reviewed with the "stargate" bezel. I'm trying to recall if it had the same stiff single links as the ones you just mentioned.
I'm not familiar with the SNE281, but I looked it up and it's a nice looking watch. The bezel has a Breitling vibe to it. I like it. Let me know how it is when you get it.
I just realized it was another reviewer who was talking about it. Anyways, yeah. I'll let you know about it. Keep up the great videos.
Follow up on your comment. I got it. Wearing it. Love it! It's nicknamed "The Black Pearl." Forgive my wild hyperbole, but: shades of Pirate of the Caribbean? It does have a kind of dark side, bad boy, ambiance to it. Sometimes I look at it, and I think I need to buy some black motor cycle boots to go with it.
Cool congrats, enjoy it. Looks like a cool piece.
Strapcode bracelet can help you to mod your SKX007:)
Yeah they make some nice aftermarket bracelets.
How’d you get the second hand on the skx to get exact time? Lol
I set that one first and sync'd the others to it.
Great review! 👍 I have the Turtle and it is a big ass watch.
Strapcodes for everyone.
Thanks for watching.
For the money, id go with the 007 which i did... But if the the turtle was the same price, i might go with that one. Movement and all i don't care about. My skx is +5 out of the box.. So its pointless .. it's just about style and look for me.
Good info,i subbed
Thank you sir, appreciate it.
Prices are def not as cheap nowadays
Can you guys help me find out when my father's watch was made?
I see the turtle shell on the turtle but I need help with the sumo. Why do they call it a sumo?🤔
It's big and fat, like a Japanese Sumo wrestler.
Guy, what watch Are you wearing in this video?
It's an older Seiko Quartz from 1985, the caseback number is 6923-8080.
Is that the SRP773 or the SRP773K1?
I guess technically it's a SRP773J1. There is a K1 version and a J1 version, designating the origin of manufacture. This one as you can maybe see on the bottom of the dial says Made In Japan - which is the J1 version.
I like higher end watches but I’m currently wearing a skx009j wouldn’t buy the other 2
I actually did do that combination build I can send you pics if you’d like to see my build it’s freaking awesome I love it!
Sure would like to see it feel free to email me some pics.
prospecs= professionally specked. skx is iso certified, not sure about the other 2.
Thanks for watching.
It's my understanding that a watch needs to be iso certified to permit using the term "diver's 200" on the dial. All three have it.
I really wish the turtle and skx had 20mm lug widths
Congrats
Thanks for watching.
In camera Turtle looks a lot bigger than sumo... I would easily buy a sumo if it have the SKX dimensions...
The SKX has just about the perfect case size and dimensions doesn't it?
I agree...
Sounds like we need to make a mod for you!
Maybe sometime in the future I'll experiment with doing mods, but I'm not there yet.
Blumo, SKX, Turtle... in that order for me.
Good review .. Love my SKX ..However the none hand winding none hacking movement turns me off .. That said I have modded 2 SKX's with the NH36A Movements.. But in 2018 Seiko should be offering the SKX Range with a 4R35 movement.. Out of all my Seiko's my SARB 047 is the most refined in fit and finish /movement. and not a lot of money in comparison .. 6R15 Movement. Signed crown. J version. 360 USD.. Brand new... Best value for money right now the SRP 315J1 At 210USD ... 4r35 movement.. and stainless bracelet...If you are a Seikoholic like myself .www.lazada.co.th is a great place to shop .. Basically a Thai version of Amazon same returns policy. and easy to navigate... I am big into modding. As you highlighted it can be expensive... Not so much for the donor watches ,but the new parts ... Ironically my SKX 013K1 Gets a lot of wrist time because of its dimensions... Being a Seikophile is a mad world.. Enjoy !!!
Thanks for watching I appreciate it.
28 min is really to long. Please try to keep it in 10 min. That will help your view count go up as well
Sorry I don't typically do 10 min presentations. I do in depth reviews. Plenty of channels already offer that style of video, I can recommend some good ones if you're looking for something different.
Completely disagree, great video and very informative
Stop calling pressed markers applied markers. Pressed markers with printed lume is trashy whereas applied markers with filled lume is quality.
Can you do a review of seiko monster, it will be very helpful and will get your take on the monster.Honestly your channel deserve more sub and views.tq
I have a new Seiko Jade Monster here that I'm going to review very soon.
damn the turtle and the sumo are ugly, the sumo dial looks great though
Thanks for watching I appreciate it.
SKX лучшие.....
Makes my Invitca look like a very good value.
I picked up an 8926ob on Amazon Prime Day. I wanted to check out an Invicta in person and I got an awesome price on it. With the exception of a couple aesthetic things my initial impressions are that I think it's a pretty nice watch and a good value.
Lol the sumo looks humongous next to the skx but oddly close to the turtle
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Personally I agree but think the SKX013 superior in every regard as blends better, works for formal attire with a sumo esque lug width, tighter tolerances and so uniquely offers what no sumo, monster or turtle can hope to be. Further any can borrow it and it works be they partners or children as with phones large watches are just counter productive attempts to claim brute ideals of masculinity ironically by embracing emotive excess.
Thanks for the suggestion.
You talk about nothing! talk about moments talk about quality talk about which will last 20 to 30 years you just talk to hear yourself
WHY ARE YOU REVIEWING THESE IF YOU DON T KNOW FULL DETAIL OF THE WATCH ..YOU WOULD BE LIKELY TOO get taking too court by Seiko..MY OP ION YOU SLANDERED SEIKO