@Roland Jupiter-XM - Who is it for? - how does it sound & the I-Arpeggio?
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- @Roland Jupiter-XM - Who is it for? - how does it sounds & the I-Arpeggio?
I did not know what to expect of the Jupiter-XM. It does use the Zen Core synthesis of Roland + the model expansions fo the Jupiter-8, Juno-06, JX-8P, SH-101, XV-5080, RD and drum sounds. But the size is misleading. Come along for the ride to see and hear what this powerful synth can do connection wise, sound wise and get inspired by it's "intelligent" I-arpeggio.
00:00 intro:
04:20 Bluetooth interconnection
05:43 Synth gratification?
06:47 De-activating speakers
07:22 Scenes and Parts basic notions
08:32 i-arppegio exemples + sound demos
29:07 Conclusion
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This should be the building way for synths henceforth!
Hey! I play with this synth live a lot and it is amazing for touring! It’s the perfect choice to pair with my nord (in hammond-centric gigs) or my Yamaha cp (for piano-centric gigs). I even use it as the only keyboard when the repertoire isn’t technically demanding: the mini keys are quite usable - they aren’t much worse than the standard semi-weighted keys you’ll find in many keyboards.
Sounds amazing in a band, live!
So small you can take it with you in the bus!
It’s 4 part multitimbral and the sounds don’t cut as you change scenes so it handles most situations.
If needed you can use it as a module with a bigger midi controller.
To me it’s definitely a tool for playing live, not a fun toy to play at home, although it’s great that you can program it laying in your couch :)
Never used the i-arpeggio 🤷🏻♂️
Who is it for? I can think of several uses. Say you are a keyboard player playing with a band on a tour and is using the Jupiter-x on-stage and you find out that you need to tweek some of the sounds for some reason, but there is not enough time between the gigs to do so, you can load up the stage show from the big Jupiter into the xm and sit on the tour buss during the bussride to the next venue doing the editing/tweaking, and then on the next gig you can load it into the big x.
Also I can think if you are advanced player who want even more Jupiter x, you could use the xm together with X as sound module to play up to 8 parts, instead of having 2 big x you can have x as the main and xn as layers. Also if the band is using sequensing during the performances, the xm can be sequenced. The sky is the limit )))
Seen some dozens of videos about the xm and x. Yours now is probably the first where I somehow get this synth and understand some want factor
I love my XM... I have it midi'd up to my MPC Live and I control the XM with my OG 76 Key Fantom to utilize the full size keys & aftertouch! I love how portable this is and is definitely also at home in the studio. This thing is a seriously underrated professional TOP of the line synth & once you figure it out the small screen isn't a big deal. DON'T SLEEP ON THIS!!!
That's what I'm planning on grabbing to start my hybrid setup. The XM and the MPC Live 2.
I’ve been following this synth for like a year...the i-arpeggiator was the biggest selling feature (the compact size and battery power is huge too)
awesome mate, thanks for the video
I love it. I have my dream synths in my studio. My Prophet 10. My Polybrute. My Pro 3 SE. what I wanted is a professional grade synth but with more immediacy. More portability. It gives us synth guys the equivalent of a guitarist and their mini GS acoustic. Can take it anywhere and just play or create. Frankly, it’s a genius concept.
It sounds soooooooooooooo good!
Thanks for the video, I’ve got one since last year. Pretty amazing sounds and very powerful stuff you can do with it.
As far as connectivity, I’m praying everyday for it to get USB Audio Class Compliant mode in the next firmware (currently only MIDI has the generic mode).
The Vocoder is very good too, I would love if it had the JUNO-DS’s or VT4 AutoPitch. Though not the best pitch correction technology, was very fun to jam with it.
Wow that's a badass keyboard
I love it as a go anywhere do anything synth, but it really shines in a DAWless setup. Sometimes I play it directly, sometimes it is sequenced by a Digitakt. It sounds like a pro keyboard but does not take up much space.
It’s certainly for me, I love this little beauty, keys are a little bit small, but nothing else disappointing, sounds are fantastic.
Think of it as an amazingly powerful module with keys.
They’re going for the ultimate around the houser - your right
You ask yourself all those questions, but how about to use it as sound module. Simply as a sound module with a master controller! No need to buy the big Jupiter X , but the same power! I think this is another answer to your questions and yes we can gig or tour with it!
You are right. I didn’t see it this way! Merci Stéphane!
You can hook i up via midi and use it as module also on stage 😊
Well, at $1,400, I don’t know that the synth is just for having fun, haha - but it does seem compelling enough for musicians/music producers that want to create on the go. The fact that it can be used as an audio interface via Bluetooth seems neat, and having everything that the X offers packed into it (except for the keypad), is certainly a plus! You can create on the go, then bring it back into the studio to integrate with your work space. Pretty cool! If you already have gear (another keyboard, MIDI controller), I can see this as a compelling buy, otherwise, if you have to buy another controller, the X might be a better fit, but you lose portability.
It looks like a toy....but...for BIG guys :-). I am still little bit confused, HOW MANY features are there and how easy/difficult are they to use. Very useful review!
@Nu-Trix, now have it on hands : have you found how to create an INIT sound and load the ZenCore VA model without applying to it any of the vintage models ? So as to have access to the 4 OSCs with XMOD, 3 Filters, 2 ENVs, 2 LFOs and all FX in one preset ? I haven’t figured out how to get there so far, though I’ve always been told it was possible. I could only reach to the waves based ZenCore model which is limited in terms of sound design, never been able to load the full VA model like I can easily do on Zenology Pro.
Hi can we put any tone in arpeggio ? Or only scenes
The portability is the key ,think about the locations you can go with it
You are right. It was think as a portable super synth.
nice review, great synth, but wouldn't a MC-707 offer the same synthesis, 8 tracks, etc. and a $1000 less?
I have a question: I don't know much about synthesis but would like to explore this product further. I would ideally like to play a full-size keyboard (so not 37 keys); is there any way I could hook this up with an electric piano so that I can use the sonic potential in the synth, with a full-size keyboard? The research I have done suggests that I'd probably be better off with something like this as it comes with presets I could tweak, rather than having to construct patches (which I might struggle with).
If anyone can offer any advicet, I'd be very grateful.
Thanks
go to any music store, play test any keyboard (synth or just controller, ie. has in-built sounds or has no sounds and just controls another device) that looks good to you find the one that feels the best at your price point. make sure it has midi in and midi out (I think they’re all MIDI capable at this point) then connect it to the Jupiter XM. set your keyboard to channel one master transmit (or something like that, usually in a system menu), set your Jupiter XM to midi channel 1 receive and connect them up with a midi cable and you’re off to the races! This synth has amazing ready to go sounds and knobular control and crazy menu diving granular control. Literally a lifetime of oscillation fun.
if you already have a keyboard of any sort that you like just look in the back and see if it has midi in and midi out plugs
@@SS-qk8oc Thank you very much - that's really helpful.
must correct myself: MIDI out on controller. a controller can have both, but midi out is all you need to control (I think). Best feature set is separate in, out, and through.
Great capable synth but 3 octaves and the mini keys just make it too restrictive...sure, i can plug in a 61 midi keyboard but the Juno X with a few downloads seems to make a lot more sense...
How would you compare the Jupiter XM to the mc707 ? Aren’t they relatively the same?
I'm make another video about it. But in short they both use the Zencore synthesis with different extras. the MC-707 can load custom samples in patches. The Jupiter XM can use model expansions (that the MC-707 can't) like the Jupiter-8 SH-101 and more. Then the rest are mostly the differences between a groovebox and a synth.
@@Nu-trix i noticed that the Mc 101 and 707 have sum Juno,Juipter8,Jupiter 6, and sh101 patches... however there seems to be a big difference between samples of Zencore and the Expansion pack! I was just wondering if how different do they sound?
If I can spend $400 on the mc101 and I can get the same or relative sound of the Jupiter Xm then I rather save sum money 💰 or buy another synth with the same cash... it just seems like Roland keeps releasing the same sounds but they make it affordable with Roland cloud, sound modules etc.. thanks for the info ✊🏾
@@KirklandWilliamsWorkout3000 I'll do an in depth video about this topic. It's one of the question I see the most about the Zen Core hardware.
I think synths will sell a lot more if they all had or if this had a piano roll in a touch screen menu. Or some type of small cursor mouse I don’t play the piano I make beats in fl studio. it would be super dope having a little daw in it plus since it has onboard speakers and batteries it would save some time and give me a new look at creating stuff. If they added a autotune with this too that’ll be awesome. A lot of people have started making music and most people who use DAWS for music probably only bought a laptop strictly for music like me. And youtube:D a lot of times I don’t want to make beats on my laptop plus it gets hot af I use a MacBook Pro.
A hardware synth with a daw in it, being able to record your voice. Like the jdxi had autotune in it shoulda added some space for a person to able to sing in this.
It also has a Vocoder that could (in some case) be seen as a Autotune.
@@Nu-trix is there a way to use autotune hardware and hear it through the xm ? I saw a video where mr tuna was able to play sounds from other synths and you can hear it from the Jupiter x speakers idk if the xm would be able to offer than though. I really like the portability wish they had autotune/autopitch would be absolutely perfect since this is portable if it had 5 hour battery life that would be way better than like I think it’s like 2 hours then you have to plug it in a wall charge waaaack. This is still cool though. Maybe they’ll make a new version of the jdxi probably not. Cool video though tryna get this def u have any on sale for 800 HMU
@@andycarrillo48 you can use the Jupiter XM has an audio speaker (USB or Bluetooth) for your computer. So yes a DAW running an autotune could be heard through the Jupiter XM.
@@Nu-trix aight thanks for the info !!
They should make a boutique version of it...that would be cool.
Why a boutique version? It's already small. If it is for the sounds, then you could get the same Zen Core sounds in a MC-101 (with the small size factor).
i just got addicted to modules like boutiques and behringer clones + my flat/apartment is really tiny. 3 months ago i purchased JU-06A and i just love it...and now sitting on my small workstation next my Push 2 :) Cheers!
@@Nu-trix Because the XM is not a desktop
If they added the vintage emulations to the MC101 that would be cool as its the perfect size. Boutique wise I'd like the JP8000, JD800 and JX8P, Jupiter 6 or MKS80.
@@maccagrabmeRoalnd already say it's impossible due to the lack of dsp
I-Arpeggio reminds Korg Karma.
What synth do u think is closest to the synth brass on the Scarface theme song?
It seems that it was mostly a Jupiter-8 and a Yamaha Cs-80. Any emulation of these 2 should do the job.
For the Jupiter-xm, the Jupiter-8 model expansion should cover this.
What’s that piece of gear in the background making the extremely cool light show? Also..just bought the Jupiter XM last week. Love it. !
I think you are talking about the Roland MX-1 mixer.
@@Nu-trix That’s it! I never knew about that. Even though I have the Fantom 6 & Jupiter XM. Extremely cool looking. Might be worth having in the studio for that reason alone🤔
Compared to the System 8 or other recent synths, how do you feel the XM stacks up? Would you still recommend it? Strengths and weaknesses of the Jupiter XM? If you own it would you buy it again?
I personality prefer the System-8 sound in general. It goes with the type of music I like to make. It’s a very personal choice.
Is it a beginners synth? For Someone starting out with synthesizers and learning how to create sound?
It’s a powerhouse of a synth in a portable form factor. I’m not sure it’s the best choice for a beginner. The Jupiter X has more instant access to the synthesis parameters on the board itself. The XM has more menu diving. Still, it’s a question of how you like your user interface and how much you are willing to learn a synth inside out.
If you are a small time band, why wouldn't you gig with this? This would be perfect.
Of course you can. It has all the power of the Full size Jupiter X. But a lot of keyboardist will prefer full size keys.
Great synth. I dont like the iArpeggio though..it sounds incoherent and random rather than 'intelligent'. I think roland are a bit cheeky calling it 'AI'
worth it for the jupiter emulations though:). Might buy one instead of the wavestate
Jp 80 still the best
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Gotta remove the "s" from sounds in your title
Great device with 2 staple Roland mistakes: limited number of controls, which require menu diving and calculator size screen. At that price tag these are not an excuse anymore sadly.
Bluetooth is a gimmick; the fact you can play audio through your phone is something that even a 20 dollars BT portable speaker can do; but I get that it is useful in the backyard to play your favorite tunes if you have guest I guess; and can't set up 2 speakers plugged in the wall.
The i-arp is amazing if you have no clue what to play, and need a quick idea that goes on and let you play a solo for example; but good luck controlling how the i-arp respond. This is the same tech used in games like rocksmith; where you have music following how hard or soft you play; and adjust drums and rhythm... They call it AI based; but in reality is much simpler than that, and it may wow musicians, but not computer programmers for sure. IF there was a way to control when the i-arp would change loop or dictate what the i-arp must play; then it would be a great feature, but as mentioned already, good luck getting consistency, unless all you need is a simple background musical bed to build on it.
I would buy this again (tested it and sent it back in a flash, due to its limitations and horrible UI/menu diving) if the price tag was below 800 dollars for sure. Roland finally added support via zencloud, so you can edit on your computer the various parameters; but that require you to pay a yearly fee... While other companies give you a sound librarian and editor for free, included with the synth. Not Roland, sadly.
Just clear one info : the editor is free. You just need a free Roland Cloud account to download it. Roland Cloud manager it the download and license manger for Roland. Of courses you can pay for extra synth plugins (Buy or rent) if you want to. But the free account gives you access to the Jupiter X XM Editor
@@Nu-trix Thanks for the clarification; I was under the impression that you must own all the soft synths included in the ZENcore to be able to use the editor; otherwise you can only edit what is in the presets and with limited controls.