Has David Turned Shaw into a Xenomorph Queen in Alien Covenant?
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Interesting. Shaw always had an issue with regards to giving birth. David in a cruel twist of fate turns her into a queen, allowing her to birth the xenomorph race.
I still firmly prefer that humans and the xenomorphs are rigidly kept as two separate species. Transforming Shaw into a full protomorph queen whom all xenomorphs descend from completely destroys the concept of 'alien' in my opinion. I like the idea of the accelerant and experiments by David, but I find the theory on Shaw's mutation to be pushing it a bit.
The xenos have always been part human. Or part whatever organism they might use for a host.
That's different, as it is fundamentally part of the species' biology to inherit traits from the host. You missed the point. My problem lies in the entire species being evolutionarily descended from the human line, or in this theorised case, from Shaw. I don't want xenos to be genetically bastardised versions of humans, or humans to transform into 15ft high xeno queens. It completely tarnishes their image.
I have been thinking along similar lines. The mystery of the original Alien may be lost by the time we come to the end of this trilogy.
I think that the, 'Alien', is an original species. I do, however, like the idea that the mechanical aspect of the Xenomorph could be added into the mix by another antagonist in the story. I think it would be very Alien 4 if Shaw were to me the Mother :D I'm hoping that something along the line of Egg Morphing is used to create the Eggs.
I don't have a problem with the xenomorphs from the original trilogy being engineered products. I just think turning Shaw into a supposed 'proto queen' would be a disservice to both the character and the xenomorphs, unless that won't be as literal as it sounds, i.e. David harvesting Shaw's reproductive organs to create them. She was already the effective 'mother' of the trilobite back in Prometheus, and hence the Deacon.
how horrible would it be if David removed Shaw's eggs,exposed them to the black gue and it resulted in face hugger eggs
+Wayne R yeah thats the theory I think which could be potentially likely. Just not a mutated Shaw
Got two ideas.
1: Shaw is dead. But David harvested her ovaries. After combining her eggs with the spores he created proto-eggs.
2: Shaw is "dead." It's said that David is acting more human. Could it be that Shaw was able to transfer her consciousness into David's body and that she, gone mad from being alone, creates the eggs?
Spoilers, you are spot on with one of those, but Im not gonna say which.
It would certainly be an ironic end for her. She couldn't have children as a human. Now, as a genetic aberration/xenomorph, she'd be a mother to hundreds, if not thousands of xenomorphs. It would be tragic to reveal her as a queen. Not as a traditional looking queen, but some messed up human/queen hybrid.
I think her death was fitting cuz in Prometheus she was infertal and unable to be pregnant but in Covenant she indirectly gave "birth" to the xenomorph species
I think that is a lazy plot line if she is now a queen. We know that Scott wanted her involvement in the film to be a secret because she is supposed to be a part of a major plot twist. Personally I think she crashed the ship to prevent David from taking it to Earth. We also know that there was a set visit from some blogger who noted a sketch of Shaw with tubes coming out from her head. To me that sounds like an engineer cryo chamber mask. I think she entered a cryo chamber and the Covenant crew finds her. She then warns them of the evil of David. Shaw either dies trying to stop David or makes it back with Daniels. That's my two cents anyway.
Definitely my favorite Alien theory channel out there. Very plausible ideas of whats to come in covenant, and so on. -Keep it up
+Dylan Simpson thanks so much Dylan
You should do a video on how the worms in Prometheus, which became 'hammerpeeds' reverted to a sort of "proto face hugger"; a 'face' that opens, instinct to attack the face and mouth area of a potential host, a tail that latches on and won't let go and tightens if provoked, and acid for blood. It's almost as if the black goo is 'programmed' (I believe we are dealing with ancient biomechanical nanotechnology here) to transform lesser life forms into face huggers.
here is some more info on shaw and david
Noomi Rapace’s return as Elizabeth Shaw was meant to be a surprise and audiences weren’t supposed to know going into the film. Even though that news had broken already, details on Shaw’s role in the film were scarce.
After landing on the Planet with David, Shaw turns an Engineer’s sleeping chamber into her domain where she was “holding out for a while.”
Dj Smiley of las Vegas I want this to happen
What about the egg morphing idea cut from the original Alien. Maybe David morphed some engineers.
+Greg Cox fox cut for a reason, it isn't canon, so unless they double back now, I'm not sure I'd say that is likely
Good point, maybe the eggs are a mutated form of a different organism native to paradise that David experimented on
+Mr H Reviews I thought they cut the scene because of time? The scene was so long that the self-destruct counter would have gone off by the time it was finished. Or was that a film crew member putting a positive spin on a change to the film?
The egg-morphing scene messed up the pacing. It also did not look like it was complete.
But just because it was cut does not mean they can't use the egg-morphing concept in a new movie.
+BulletTooth504 Yea I didn't think they would throw out an idea that was cut for timing. If they cut it for story/theme reasons I would think its an idea they wouldn't use in a sequel, but since it was more timing and pacing I think Ridley might still use it.
loving the channel!
+Vitor Munhoz thank you!
Surely the distress message is masterminded by David, how else would he test his experiments... excellent channel by the way, subscribed
+Nico Tenraa appreciate the sub :) as for the overall distress signal, its likely to be David, I highly doubt shaw could set it without his knowledge and him switching it off. So definitely would be David, there may be no other way off the planet so either like you say, to test experiments or, he needed a ship
MR H Reviews: Very intriguing,totally enjoyed! :)
glad you enjoyed it ron!
Your perspectives & opinions about Shaw and David are so very intriguing...
Shame we can't get you and also some of the writer/directors in a genuine deeper panel discussion about some of this. I'm sure that , that conversation would be stimulating, priceless and very engaging for all!
Throw in live Q&A..and it would probably go (easily) all night!
Shaw seems to look deformed in the trailer. My theory is that Shaw was in the process of transformation, while sending out a distress call which is intercepted by the Covenant. The idea that Shaws reproductive organs are used to somehow create the eggs seems plausible. Perhaps the protomoph is the original Alien, seen on the Morual in Prometheus and is indigenus to Paradise. This leeds me to the theory that the eggs are created by the protomorph, morphing the humanoid beings on Paradise.
Then Shaw ends her days in much the same way as her partner did in promethues, saddly :( Thinking about it, the life cycle of the traditional alien and the life cycle shown in Prometheus, as well as the effects of being infected by the black liquid, there seem to be two seperate processes involved in this story. One, the life cycle of the Alien, where by an infected individual procreates in order to kick start the said life cycle. Two, the process of the infected individual becoming a mutated form which partially resembles the alien form. I theorise that the black liquid is basicly the genetic code of an alien, the ancestor of the Xenomorph seen in Alien and Aliens. I theorise that the mural of the decon like crearture in prometheus is the original alien. Moving forward, the biomechanical anatomy of the Xenomorph seems to come about some time between Alien Covenant and Alien(1979). The best theory that I have heared is that David himself is infected by the black liquid and transforms into the ancestor of the Xenomorph. How would this happen ? Perhaps David experiments on Walter, to make this happen. Thus Walter becoming the original Xenomorph, not David. Perhaps Walter is actually the Space Jockey, which we see in Alien (1079), which explains why the Space Jockey is melded into the chair. The original Xenomorph then being the creature that burst from the Space Jockey's chest. Lots of vaguely connected ideas here. I just love theorising about this story. Great thought provoking Mr H. Thank you.
First LastCreativity I don't think she looks deformed I think its just the recording, the ship is said to have crashed so, maybe damaged the playback in some way
Mr H Reviews Good theory. After seeing how things ended with those who were effected by the black Liquid in Prometheus, I'm thinking Shaw looks deformed.
Shaw had a hysterectomy, that is the removal of the uterus but not the fallopian tubes. A xeno queen is basically fallopian tubes to produce eggs and the long tube structure (vagina) to move and deposit them outside the body.
I like the theory that black liquid has re programmed David. Perhaps David isn't completely synthetic. It must be wonderful to be a writer of these movies, coming up with ideas for the direction of the plot.
First LastCreativity best theory I've heard yet. I like it
Thanks for doing this video! The fate of Shaw is a really big question that I hope that Alien Covenant answers.
yes!
Very nice job.
Nice explanation there Mr H! I tend to agree with you, but I wouldn't be surprised if a queen showed up in the prequels, but I think the odds are very low. Unless that poster was messing with us, or thats not a queens crown at the top of it. Either way, great video!
keep up the great work H
+RubberBand Clan thanks dude
no disrespect but i think that if Shaw turns into a queen that it would be kind of ridiculous.
+Deathwing22153 not disrespectful to me, I didn't say I think she would lol
"Alien or the egg". X-D
Remember, though, in the med pod she had the fluid in the amniotic sac drop right into the open wound of her cesarean. Infection and sickness were likely in all honesty. And even if the trilobite couldn't infect her, there may have been something in the amniotic fluid that triggered some form of illness. I don't think David would be above experimenting on her if he knew for sure she was going to die.
+Necroticus illness and mutation are entirely separate though. An infection to which David attempted to treat I agree with, that's a possibility.
Mr H Reviews I doubt she's been mutated as well, it would just be a distraction from tbe main plot. But what I meant was if she was dying of illness David, having no conscience, would not be above infecting her as she lay dying. Not in an effort to treat her (though he might lie to get her to cooperate) but solely to experiment on what he would see as a lost cause. If she's septic and there is no antibiotics, she's going to die regardless. I can see David looking at experimentation as logical at this point. Though I still doubt we will see anything of her, mutated or not.
I hope so.. that'd be so cool
Your reasoning is very realistic and I love it.
+Broken finger from Life movie thanks :)
dr. Shaw on prometheus survived an alien trilobite sickening c section, a whole space ship falling from the sky almost crushing her, survived also a silica storm trying to save an engineer head in a bag and the final fight with an engineer. Why is she dead on covenant why.... XD
caupoli exactly! I also want her to be alive and well. No alien queen!
Perhaps the reference waiting for Mother is meant as waiting for MUTHUR, which I hear is on the covenant.
Hey, Mr. H! Per one of our previous conversations, you know that I think Shaw mutates into an alien. I'm not sure it was David. It very well could have been because of what he did to Holloway but, as seen in Covenant trailers, infection is possible through the inhalation of spores. Shaw could have accidentally breathed in a spore while investigating the planet. Nobody will really know until Covenant is released. Thanks for the upload and hope to see more theories, soon.
lots on the way :) with the other content being produced i actually have more time to reason and put my thoughts down on theories now :)
I can't wait! :-D
"they are quite safe, they're waiting for mother" smh I can hear that perfectly in Davids voice so well
I bet the scenarists are like "damn, that would have made more sense"
One important distinction that I have not heard talked about before is that the black goo does not mutate the engineers, it causes their DNA to disintegrate. Everything else seems to get mutated by it. I think this distinction is probably critical in understanding what the black goo is and what its intended purpose is.
+ShockL0ver I don't think so, I think they are just varying chemical agents, one breaks down and seeds life, one mutates and the one David uses on Paradise seems to kill
It has different effects when applied in different ways. That's the nature of it. That's also why it's an experimental tool. Holloway was undergoing the same process as the engineer from the intro only much slower(and more painfully) because he consumed less.
ahhh Mr H, this one was one of my theories but i thought maybe I was too out there. i do believe there is a good chance she will be a queen as there making a deal of that fact that she exists in covenant or Rembrandts of her. kudos to you for opening other interests too to cover, as MR H is like the marvel comics watcher, he sees and reviews all ;)
+James Roa James! Long time no see! Yeah, ultimately I can't continue with just alien and predator content, videos would be sporadic otherwise and as you well know, the channel started with multiple interests :) so going back to that and it means I have more time to work on better alien and predator videos for you all too :)
Mr H, lol I'm back, i have been watching and now I'm back to commenting, new born baby and all in the house. your content keeps me sane, so keep that work coming Mr H, look forward to all your content plans. P.s anymore collaborations on the way?
+James Roa I'm not sure really, the podcast is a mainstay twice a month that I feature on, in terms of collaborations its difficult to schedule time what with my full time job and things. I'd like to get more on the way, had reached out to bandit to do some but scheduling got in the way. I think me and Nick from hybrid network will probably do something soon
+James Roa p.s hope the little one is good health!
You have to remember as well he was a scientist, he was fascinated, and wanted to see what would happen. He seemed to know what would happen.
Ahh back to the Shaw /Queen thing!
Good stuff lets have a listen...
+Mark Wootton enjoy!
Mr H Reviews I'm going to go with Shaw being the Queen via David's tinkering but not in this film, just a hint of it.
When I saw the extended video of the Take Me Home promo with Shaw singing, I was creep out and wondering if she went mad.
I love the way u say "Shaw"
How about Shaw as something.. else? Mythologically and dating back to Giger, she may now be in the words of Emily Dickinson 'Wider Than The Sky'.
What's shown in these short All sizzle no steak trailers are only that she possibly gave up her dogs tags, but not her faith. So while her spiritual faith in religion continues, her faith in humanity did not.
He turned a large chicken egg into alien egg by using black goo
Tell you I would like to see is a video of the connections between blade Runner, and alien. Not sure if it is cannon but Peter Wayland has said he looked up to Eldon Tyrell of the Tyrell corporation, who created the replicants in blade Runner. Apart from that I can't find much else on the subject.
Holloway's infected sperm fertilized one of Shaw's eggs, creating the trilobyte. So it stands to reason that David used the accelerant on Shaw's eggs to somehow create the facehugger eggs.
If this scenario turns out to be true, how tragic would that be for Dr. Shaw, esp. considering her strong belief in God, Jesus, and Faith, in general? Also, it would be a tragedy for a Scientist, who looked at her work as a way of deciphering the mysteries of Life, to ultimately end up uncovering -- or being unintentionally caught in -- the unspeakable horrors and terrors of it. She would, in many ways, be seen almost as the flipside of Ellen Ripley: Ripley, ultimately overcame her horrors (hopefully we'll see this in its total fruition in ALIEN 5 -- better title later, hopefully), and became stronger/better for it...whereas, Elizabeth Shaw will be seen as the worst victim/pawn in a nefarious, horrific chess match between Man and Something Far Stronger and Deadlier...
I believe the way it works in Alien is that it takes a queen face hugger to fertilize an organism to create a queen xenomorph
maybe David's comment of eggs waiting on mother was a reference to "mother" from the Nostromo?? Maybe that scene was after Shaw put out distress signal? just a thought.
+MixxedMonster yeah maybe, but then the scene wouldn't make much sense, why would he lead captain Oram to the eggs to get face hugged to then state the eggs are waiting for muthur? The simplest answer is probably the right one here I think, we remember David as having quite the quick wit in Prometheus, I think its just a reference to the eggs needing a host. It wouldn't be a reference to the nostromo as that's some 30 years into the future, maybe the covenant muthur computer, however I don't think so
I think there's a good reason why Oram is the one to become the first 'mother' to David's experiment. It's stated that Oram is deeply religious and believes in the sanctity of life as God's creation alone. I think David would find that very interesting and target Oram specifically to be exposed to the new life that he has created to teach him something of a lesson. Does that make sense?
I think the eggs are in that area because David moved them, I believe they didn't hatch because he is a synthetic so his presence is sensed as "Dead" in a way, I like to think that in someway to possibly help her David experimented and turned Shaw into a Protomorph Queen, if we do see a queen in the movie, I think it will be an end credit scene. however that's just what I think, I do like reading other peoples ideas and theories and I do enjoy watching your videos Mr. H, can't wait to see more.
+Gym_Bobb thanks man :) more to come! Now interspersed with other content lol
I think it would be cool if Shaw was living and hiding on the planet the whole time struggling for survival. I don't know with the time span of that would be possible but I just think it would be a nice twist
O Must I would like to see this as well. With the twist of Daniels sacrificing herself to save Shaw in the end.
Mornin' Mr H!
morning morning
fascinating theory
What if David tries to self Shaw and she turns out to be an engineer species? That ship might be Derelict and After knowing about David's experiment, Shaw tries to land it in the planet far far away.
a good theoretical possibility given that the black goo is a mutagenic weapon based on Xno morph Dna. so the transformation is id imagine not going to be a perfect transformation. that and the eggs would have to be laid by a queen. or are the eggs a left overs from the engineers last capture for the experiments in the creation of more of the black goo. given that perhaps the time perhaps they needed a pure strain of xno morph dna that only a queen or a Facehugger has since they doesn't bare any other Dna mixing from other species.
Well.... did he save Shaw because he KNEW if his 'mission' was to succeed, he needed a human host?
Great videos! I'd love to see a video illustrating the various ways the aliens reproduce - I still get confused about the alien life cycle, seems there are different pathways in different movies.
+s Schoenleber hey, thank you! Glad you enjoy them. Its all the same currently, egg, to facehugger impregnation, to chest burster then growth into full xenomorph :) that's the only current canon life cycle, hope that helps!
Awesome and thank you. I'll keep watching these videos they are really interesting!
+s Schoenleber glad you like them :)
We'd better get back on CZcams cause it'll be morning soon and MR H's videos mostly come in the morning. Mostly.
;) hope to be putting out two a day soon..... morning and evening! best comment thus far though.
I think david just had a huge go about on this new planet
David is the true gost in the shell!!!! i can't wait for this new ride!!!!!
after her role in the last movie any other fate would feel like a let down whether its a newt/ hicks off screen death ( crash or David kills her. or if she's just in cryo sleep like the engineer was. would feel that like a disappointment. so the best use of her character is to involve her in the creation of the new morphs. whether she is made into the queen. or she creates the queen facehugger and it lays the queen into Daniels
+Julian Gomez as much as I agree, her character and story has to serve the over all story not the story serving her character, so if the story arc ridley wishes to go would be best served without her, then that's the best course of action. Should never write a story to serve a character, not when there is a greater universe to delve into
Yo Mr. H (Jesse Pinkman voice) I would like just like your opinion on the trajectory of the Alien films. The franchise has been subjected to executive meddling in the past and it causes me dread because I fail to see why it could be any different for the upcoming films. I fear that we will get another cryptic movie like prometheus where we are subtly forced to see more sequels for any closure.
What if Shaw went to meet the Engineers, they killed her, and David released the goo on em as payback? Just spitballing.
I think there would be a big twist regarding the fate of Shaw at the end of Covenant
the Queen thing was just meh in Aliens. If the original concept was kept of people turning into Eggs it would be far more "alien" than a giant bug concept [Which Cameron turned them into].
My theory are the eggs in alien covenant are created by David. Second David seems to have a fondness for Shaw so yes I agree with Mr. H. Lastly I believe Shaw is alive but is no longer human. Although, I believe she's not a Queen from previous franchise films but horrid in appearance. I believe how her fate will payout/presented on the silver screen will most likely be a good twist and surprising. Hopefully no fan service.
that black goo is one heck of a mutagen. however the mutations do not seem to be random.
(Warning this contains more then my ideas about this theory and is more of a summerised thought dump :P) The idea that her sexual organs specifically ovaries where used is interesting. The more 'pointed' shape of these eggs does seem to look slightly more like an ovary so this could be the case. The idea also comes from them being called 'Ovomorphs' (Or was it Ovamorphs?) in expanded media. Where we won't know till the movie (Unless they keep it secret for 'awakening') so can't rule it out or say it's a fact yet. All we can confirm is by the time of Alien the creatures eggs look different, are capable of producing queens, are more bio mechanical and somehow made it to LV426 while an engineer had a chest burst wound. So either those eggs are already on LV426 and the ships been there all along meaning these Xenomorphs (Protomorphs whatever they are) are simply David's experiments. As with all the other engineers seemingly dead it is an interesting thought. But back onto the original topic I don't see Shaw being a queen but the apparent comment from David about 'waiting for mother' could be a mix of his obsession with creators and how mothers are human creators (Maybe thus wanting the Xenos to have the same 'feeling'? It's exciting. Part of me wants the Xenomorphs to be genetic abominations or weapons but part of me wants Xenomorph Prime to exist and them to be natural. I hope if we get a new AVP cinematic universe we get things like the Praetorians and and Xenomorph Prime if the 'Alien' series wants them to be artificial which I am fine with as it makes sense. Their too 'perfect' of an organism.
jordanbrandon81 great ideas! love the fact that you remind us of the bioMECHANICAL aspects of Alien world. I think that innovative component is a key feature of what made the initial Alien concept so unique. sadly its often forgotten in most comments. and that's easy to understand. the organism based theories of cross mutation are endless and very compelling since we are good ol' blood and guts sorta creatures. so adding the possibilities of mechanical fusion into our theories is even more confusing and mind blowing! it certainly expands the realms of possibilities on an exponential level. but we can't forget it as a contributing factor of what's happening in the Alien universe.
Thanks =)
Yea we need to wait and see what their origin is. I think it's implied enough that the ones Ripley encounters are altered in some way. Whether new species, an enhanced one whatever they're there. Can't wait to see the origin of my favorite monster.
I like to think shaw made an emotional impact on david and she is still "sleeping". This is a thought provoking theory though. great video bud
Mr h I've been wondering, have you noticed on the latest movie poster, that there are several different types of xenomorph, including a queen? The actual queen face not just the crown. What do you suppose this means?
+Dystinkuished I did a video on it, it doesn't mean anything. Its just a stylistic choice for marketing
The alien or the egg haha good stuff
I think there's a reason why they had the whole Infertile shaw's uterus suddenly mutated into giving birth to facehuggers. There is a reason why this was in Prometheus and it makes more and more sense if overtime she completes her mutation and turns into an alien queen that lays proper eggs with proper facehuggers unlike the premature mess she ripped out of her womb in the first movie.
Yes you got it..the eggs had to come from somewhere and that’s def it..and he’s going to do the same to covanent crew..
I think there is a point in that there isn't an infection with complete mutated creatures. ie Hicks getting acid blood on him and it literally only burns....as well as seen in AVP films. however it would be key to look at a few points which are what the creator explored. he liked the idea of a queen. but as well in the original alien we see something no other film showed(extras) which was hints of Egg morphing. and at that from a drone not a queen. so it seems either the substances the aliens excrete or through some form of contact they are or was hinted at the ability to have an additional life cycle.
this all leads to exactly what is a egg/ facehugger/ the embryo implanted? its argued its a tumor of which the genetic raw material from the host is reconstructed to form the alien of which characteristics of the host is present. hence it could be a different or manufactured form of the excelerant. of which even drones can produce to ensure the aliens continue even when no queen facehugger or queen is there. I would argue the facehugger implants a tumor (which is essentially a mass of cells) is no different from infected sperm. but since these movies are showing the mechanism behind the Alien in Alien. I would think Ridley would explore the mechanism behind the bizarre hint at egg morphing.
and ironically it would be a queen made from a human again but a much more deeper connection and better story than alien 3.
if Shaw wasn't able to have a child but womb was changed to bare it i think it was the sperm acting no different than the original alien in Alien egg morphing through what seemed to be the very bio mechanical structure coating its victims and the walls etc of the ship.
then again who really knows. I'm going off things from the original which these more so are for than the later films which weren't as good.
last the egg room. lets remember that the queen can have eggs in several places. think Alien 3 after the swim. also the possibility of David moving some to a separate location.
the guy who was suffocated was no different from a victim of a drone who isn't taken to be impregnated but killed. this now goes back to the original alien information and extras . where the question is asked does it eat? or do the creatures spawned from the excelerant use victims who aren't impregnated as simply organic fuel for the hive structure.
actually look at the name covenant. what if the twist is Shaw lost all her faith and after witnessing the engineers she agrees to work with David and create a ultimate lifeform. thus making a covenant to do the unthinkable .
Could David be waiting for the Covenant's AI, MOTHER?
I think a lot of Queen speculation happened because of the poster art showing queen like features.
Thats a good point. The queen must be on the poster for a reason.
Hopefully just an aliens fanboy in the art department trying to get away with it.
At this point, I'm ready for anything
Seeing those dog tags just left out in the open...I think someone(thing) placed them there. They just don't fly off.
I think Shaw will get facehugged and she was the one sitting on the control panel in the first alien movie.
I do somewhat agree with you that likely there will not be a Alien Queen, to me it just seems like they would be doing too much in one movie unless the movie is like 3ish hours long. But the "Eggmorphing" thing could be possible in a sense that Engineers were utilized as raw material or the locals of the planet were by David utilizing perhaps as you said Shaw's corpse. Either way I hope this is something interesting and new in the coming movie and its not something just overhyped.
well, i think Shaw is something, like you said. David fancy her. so i think he made her to something to prevent her death. The new Covenent poster can we see a Queens tophead, so i think we are gonna see one. I will not be surprised it is Shaw.
It would actually make David more human,Being with her for who knows how long seeing her dreams I imagine would make him attached to her, obsession brings out the worst in us. So him doing what ever he can to keep her by his side, having no moroles as we know them, just logic of how to attain a goal. Could explain him mutating her
It makes no sense if David just simply killed her using black goo. I mean you can clearly see their relationship become more complex in the end of Prometheus. Plus, the "Paradise" is supposed to be the homeworld of Engineers. It would be a huge waste of plot if Shaw & David did not engage with the engineers at some point during the past decade before the Covenant arrived. I bet Shaw's "transformation" has everything to do with the interaction with the engineers on the "Paradise"
It's the middle of the night for me. ; )
Mr H I will continue to follow you and whatever content you produce.. looking forward to seeing your future videos
+Ross Macmillan Mr Ross! Thanks bro, genuinely mean that. It means a lot to me and still blown away by the reception I get on my channel!
I hope y'all are wrong because I want to see Shaw alive and well.
Streggea Studios I agree.
nop
She dead af laying on a table dissected...
@@blackskulldud57 thats what im about to reply to this dudes comment
and there was picture Daniel Looking at* it shows Shaw Mouth ripped completely
and this guy saying she alive & well............. Dude re-watch Alien Covenant
David Fucking Experimented Her* Since he cant get Hard Down to his Rod
He might as well* Shit this is boring imma do something Evil
We can only wait till the movie is out in theaters. I am really looking forward for it.
+Dragonmistress83 likewise
Its a crazy theory, Shaw mutating into the alien queen. But would be a cool one to see none the less.
this has been my theory all along
i just thought of this so there's old engineer heads in the new covenant trailer (look like they're made of stone) and in Prometheus we seen a young engineer head monument (made of metal) with like bio-mechanical wires or markings going through his face .. what does it mean ? lol
Surely the engineers harvested the eggs from another source where a queen would have been present.
The eggs found in the up coming movie were placed there by the engineers.
I really hope she is mutated into some abomination. the early leaked set photos showed failed attempts at the xeno, so maybe he tries experiments on Shaw and things don't go as planned. but your logic regarding the accelerant is sound, and I doubt this will be the case :(.
+Alex Chittenden thanks man :)
In my opinion Shaw mutating into a Queen would be a step too far. If she is the host to begin the process of creating a Queen that remains to be seen. I agree with you though, either the eggs are engineered by David or possibly egg morphing may have occurred using the engineers (same process of Dallas and Brett's fate in Alien Directors cut).... This may explain why they look bigger (with the logic that the engineers are larger than humans). However, I would imagine that the engineer would need to be alive for the morphing to be successful? This would contradict speculation of David wiping the all the Engineers out on arrival ... But maybe some survived and were used as experiments (including egg morphing) ... Maybe :-)
I agree with this theory..........mostly !
My take is that they both arrive on Paradise and David exterminated the Engineers with the Black Goo.
Shaw gets upset, they have an argument and
A) He turns her into a xenomorph/queen using the black goo.
B) She attempts to run away and is killed by one of David's creations while recording a distress message (as seen in the trailer). David could then transform her somehow into an egg or something else.
This is only speculation but I'd like to see her morph into an alien.
Oh that freak only told her the engineer was gunning for her at the end because he knew she wouldn’t be able to staple his head back on if he didn’t help save her
YES
All human mothers have some of their children's cells living in their body, and is the most common form of microchimerism. I don't know if this is something they thought about, and I don't know what having trace amounts of the trilobite's cells floating around inside your body would do to you - but I could easily see this going badly for Shaw.
I think Mother = MU/TH/UR
pretty obvious the figure standing in the egg room is walter, He is a company android, so was david and so was Ash. The whole gaining knowledge and specimens at any costs probably didn't end with David. Probably how a xenomorph gets on the Covenant, he lets Crudup get facehugged and then brings him back to the ship
The hologram Shaw didn't react when the long thing (alien tail?) went through her, so maybe the hologram is the combination of two different holograms of the bridge. One at the beginning of the trip to paradise and the other much later on, maybe at the moment of impact on paradise. She went into hypersleep and slowly transformed on the way there.
Revenge is fueled by rage. I wonder what motivated David?
Fine channel Sir. Lots of interesting materials, keep the good work! + SUB for ya, :)
+Lx Dead thank you so much!
Don't have to mate and I must add that I haven't disappointed in You, I was waiting for You to cover those news about new Empire photos of engineers and neomorphs. Thanks again and keep the good work :D
i think u will see her in end credits to lead up to Prometheus 2
I honestly do not see Shaw being mutated in the hologram image, all I see is a distorted image of a human.
I would like to believe a Queen(Shaw or not) laid those eggs. But I think we need more information on the creation of a xenomorph. There are other pieces to this puzzle that might be explained in Covenant. We are being shown possiblities. David had 10 years to experiment with the liquid, Engineers and 1 human host(Shaw). He(David) found a way to make eggs without a queen. Which came first, the queen or an egg? Figuring my theory is correct and excluding any experimentation, how do you get a queen? What about the bird like creature in the mural beside the wounded Engineer? Maybe that creature with the liquid and an Engineer made a version of a queen. Or is our Space Jockey(Last Engineer) the first queen? Just like Mr. H says, these are all theories. I could be completely wrong.
I thought they beared a resemblance.
One question I have is what did David intend to do with the the crucifix he tried to take from Shaw as she slept in Prometheus? Was he going to toss it in the trash, or keep it as a souvenir?
First of all, Mr. H. let me say that I enjoy your reviews and find them most curiously-intriguing! :-) I just have a hunch that the ending of ALIEN: Covenant might well house a "surprise ending"...and it may well be Dr. Shaw in Alien Queen livery! :-) Knock on wood!!!
+ursa41 potentially!
+ursa41 also, glad you enjoy my videos :)