WHY the development of football tactics is over
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2019
- Ever heard of Nándor Hidegkuti? Without the Hungarian centre-forward Jürgen Klopp wouldn’t have a Champions League title. When it comes to tactics, are there ever new ideas or do coaches just reinvent old ones? Have we already seen everything? Have we reached the end of football? Kick Off! reporter Constantin Stüve explains.
Report by Constantin Stüve
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This dude sounds like that 19th-century professor who said, upon seeing an electric lamp for the first time, that there was nothing else left for mankind to invent.
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It's safer for us all if germans keep thinking that.
@@saooran7364 Yes... This is a 4d chess gambit the Germans are playing to hide their new innovation in 2022
@@shutout951 yep, they should stay with thirds. Third place, third dimensions, third reiches. For the sake of the sport, obviously.
@J. M what's Google only showing on Russian media?
There’s one that still hasn’t been used. 9 players link arms and form a tight circle around the ball carrier. They play up the field, uncontested, and then cause chaos in the box before the shot. All 10 instantly rush back and act as keepers until the ball is won again.
Hahahahahaha. Hilarious
LMAOOOOO I died imaging this
"Our brains have reached their limits"...
Speak for yourself
Maybe his brain has
capitalist brains reached their limits
@Nostalgic memories Say that to Japan
Are people that stupid? It's fucking sarcasm
@@pulpficti I think it proves more than a joke some people
Stick to football. The first part was senseless.
I think it's meant to be sarcasm, especially since the examples become increasingly more absurd as he goes on.
Man city fan not getting it, typical
If you don't understand it .... it must be rubbish, eh? (basically the intro was satirising Fukuyama's ''The End of History'' and the intellectual scrapping that surrounded the book's claims.)
"Everything That Can Be Invented Has Been Invented" - 1889, Charles H. Duell
He said a really Nice joke in pre history period
And this youtuber, 2019.
I don’t get why ur still posting this in 2020
There’s been a lot of innovation and refinement on old ideas
Well that didn't age well
Laughs at people for thinking telegrams were the greatest communication system that would ever exist...while emphatically stating that human and architectural development is over. The definition of hubris.
I think this is sarcasm😅😅
Architectural development is over in a sense of its form. All forms that are existed in the nature were tried out in architecture. So yeah in that sense it is over. Now it's recycling of same few forms.
@@robertwill23 So what you're saying is that human architectural development never began because it was ALL always recycled. And therefore we are in agreement that it can't be over. ;)
@@MinamideSporlock Human architectural development? What is that? Forms are exhausted in architecture. There are limited number of forms in nature. Since Ancient Greece and Sumerian civilization throughout Renaissance and Classicism to Art Deco and MInimalism avec Functionalism, we all ended up in postmodern mixage and recycling. In that sense architectural development is over.
@@robertwill23 Human vs Nature. Just repeating what you said.
I don't know about you, but I personally like the 2-1-7 formation. It gives a lot of attacking support and you know what they say, " A good offense is the best defense," or something like that.
That's literally a slight tweak of one of the oldest ones in the books. In the first international game, England played a 1-2-7 according to accounts.
Or just play a 0-0-10
It amazed me seeing a video about history of tactics in football and not hearing about Brazil's contribution to it (my main objective when I clicked on this video... how naive I was)
To be fair ,prime Barca is playing a 2 - 1 - 7 while attacking . Abidal and alves push forward to offer side options . 2 midfielders stay around the box to wait for lose balls. it's just a modern style with mix of stamina and skills
Chess has more positions than can ever be tried...
Till now. Wait till we have better computers
Rahul Kashyap would still take quite a long time. The number of atoms in the observable universe is 10^81. The number of chess games possible is greater still. That number, according to a numberphile video is about 10^120.
Plus he refers to chess when saying all players could execute all functions... I’d guess he meant checkers
yeah theres a lot positions in chess, but current chess is handfull of meta strategies and doing anyting else than those will automatically make you lose the game.
@@teemumiettinen7250 in the opening but you cant prep an entire game
Cut that first 13 second 😂
It's embarrassing
I kinda agree with it
Jay Cartwright well ur kinda dumb
@@jxrgen7910 You don't get to decide who is dumb. You're too dumb for that.
@@pereiraplaza222 actually he does, because that's his opinion, in the comments section we share our opinions
@@maruf7956 No, you don't get to decide that, you are not playing some game with Game Genie.
Apparently you haven’t heard of Sheffield United’s overlapping centerbacks lol.
I have never seen them play for a full game but that sounds funny lol
Yeah there is only one United in England and that's Sheffield United
I used to overlap as a centerback, and got chastised for it...10 years later Ajax started doing it and destroyed everyone for a period
@@MikediFazio I remember Lucio overlap 15 years ago
United Nerd Apparently, you forgotten Arsene Wenger’s Arsenal.
"If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford. Before cars were invented, most people wouldn't have guessed that they would exist.
Maybe they should have stuck to the horses.
"Our brains have reached their limits" ??? Where is he sourcing these claims from
its supposed to be a joke
he probably mean murican brains
tiktok
the answer is no...even with the same formations, the coach still has different systems and tactics within that formation...plus, with the rules being modified from time to time, football tactics will never stop improving...
It the end
Improve is not the correct word
@@matheus5230 All this writing and you're wrong at so many levels it's incredible... think better about the idea of 'improving' 'evolving' and so on... I recommend you watching the final of European Cup in 1960. Don't be blind because of the different tactics, the skills and pacing of the game are still to this day unmatched. Football changes has more to do with health care, training methods to adapt players to play much more games, better equipment and better pitches and of course, propaganda, marketing and media. The rest is still the same, that's why it's so popular in the past as it's nowadays. Compare with basketball, specially the NBA. The set of rules was limiting the game regarding skills, how you could or not could handle the ball, what you could do in defense, using your hands, for instance hand-checking... the rules in football only limited players by not using their hands, that's why dribbling was the same in the 30s and 40s as it's today (a couple of moves taken from futsal nowadays, that's all). Defenders in the past were better, not as you're saying, why? because they had to defend one on one. They may look to you as amateurs because they had to cover more pitch and follow one guy which is much more difficult, but in fact that's why they were more intelligent and fundamentally sound. Nowadays, defenders don't have a clue about defending one on one, they make mistakes unthinkable in the past... it's true is difficult defending today because refs don't allow any kind of contact, because football is no more a contact game, but zone defenses make defenders less intelligent, they just have to adjust to what their closer teammate is doing as the coach told them, the lack of initiative in todays players is a main problem... and so on and so on
improving isn't what he's arguing, creating completely new tactics that can't be traced back is his point.
@@matheus5230 tbh... I didn't read any of that but your first sentence alone is wrong.
9:41 "In this summer, clubs are pimping their back lines."
Arsenal: What"s a back line?
hahahhahaha
🤣
😂😂🤣🤣🤣
ROFL
yea well.. most of us Arsenal fans are absolutely brainwashed
If your argument is that a) there are no new pieces left to introduce into tactics, and b) tactical development in the future will only consist of picking and choosing out of what's already been there in some form, I have a few reasons for disagreeing:
You mentioned Guardiola's inverted wing-backs. This would be a new element, wouldn't it? And if it isn't, because, after all, they are just regular wing-backs but closer to the middle - then why does a false nine count as a new element, but inverted wing-backs don't?
I will concede that a new role is not the same thing as a new formation in terms of scope, but that bears another question: What are formations? When does something that is nominally listed as 433 still qualify as that? As you've said, it looks almost like a 235 when City are in possession. So changing roles is something that actively changes formation, whether they appear as such on the team sheet or not.
The idea that today's tactics just consist of reassembling old elements relies on a clear distinction between the tactical whole and the individual innovation, and more importantly a clear distinction between old and new. Arguably, Firmino's game is still very different from Hidegkuti's. Is it different enough to coin a new role? What about Thomas Müller's invention of the term Raumdeuter? Does the idea have to catch on to qualify as such? How different does it have to be from what has come before? (You actually brought up a very interesting point when you alluded to future tactical development being shaped by the players' abilities. But of course the way a player develops is shaped by a million factors, including the managers' tactical intent. But that is another discussion, anyway.)
And if we're really talking base components: Was the only real innovation ever made in football tactics the emancipation of the passing game as opposed to a (supposedly vaguely rugby-like) dribbling game? To put it somewhat polemically: "Football teams back in 1900 used to field eleven players, some of which were defenders, some of which were attackers! And today it's just the same! Tactical development only consists of changing the number of defenders, midfielders and attackers nowadays! And telling them to do different things, sometimes!"
If that's not the way to go, because obviously it isn't, then we're just arguing over where to draw the line between what we consider a new invention and just reusing the pieces.To which I say that there is no point in drawing a line at all, unless we're looking for a certain narrative. As has been pointed out by other commenters, the perception that there cannot possibly be a novelty position, or role, or formation, or hypereffective way of puzzling those things together - that perception just means you, personally, cannot think of that new thing right now.
My step brother destroyed me and our friend in FIFA 15 or 16 using a 4-2-2-2 and would overlap his LB and RB.
It was the most bullsh*t formation I had ever played against and he would do it out of 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 and it was so stupid. I swear someone is going to try that shit in real life some day. It threw off so much defending 😂
Hops
Exactly. And your last point especially alludes to a paradoxical way of thinking that we humans are generally guilty of.
Well said! And i really appreciate your effort. wish more yt comments were like this
A coach = a song writer. There are always abundant new songs every year
Like any innovation we won’t see it coming but something will change
"If I haven't made a mistake, I have already made a mistake"- Shkodran Mustafi
Before I make a mistake, I don't make that mistake. Johan Cruyff
Haha bullshit from Johan Cruyff.
Wow, that Mustafi guy sounds very wise indeed.
So unbelievably true. He always makes at least one boneheaded decision per game. Us Arsenal fans dubbed it the "Mustafi Moment."
@@jmljamallmj4112 he's said some great ones like that
10:05 IPhone 5 look like 6,7,8 AND 9
9?Yes 9 everyone know there’s a 9
At the end of the 19th century, there was a consensus among physicist that physics is completely solved and there are only a few black spots left.
Then came Planck and Einstein...
This is a common, but very, very, very wrong misconception. Lord Kelvin, when he said that famous quote, meant that a new breakthrough in physics would come with the solution of the ultraviolet catastrophe, thus, anticipating quantum mechanics. They knew very well what was to come. We tend to forget the fact that the scientists in the past were not stupid, in fact, more intelligent that almost all humans today.
No mention of the role of goal keepers in build up play
jay morny facts now teams r using goalkeeper,
Bayern with Neur was already a thing
Even Barcelona with valdes
@@jehvanmontieth1292 exactly, both recent, therefore there was development 🤦♀️
Rene Higuita, decades ago
”Political history is over“
Made my day.
Francis Fukuyama's thesis
@@JulioLeonFandinho Fukuyama is wrong. His book "End of history" is nonsense. I don't even think he believes his thesis anymore tbh
So tell me, which is the new great ideology that rose to challenge democracy
@@yoafaboy democracy barely existed in Russia, turkey has always been dubious and both hungary and India are still democracies, even if slightly authoritarian.
In the end, you still have no answer to my question
@@thedripkingofangmar6778 I don't know man, I can't tell the future. What's your point exactly?
"The development of human beings is over. Our brains have reached their limit."
You don't know how wrong you are.
Callum Stack he don’t know how wrong he is because he didn’t reach that limit
I mean this guy is so stupid.
"FOOTBALL CANNOT EVOLVE ANYMORE!"
His statement was not even close to true. We've literally made computers and AI in the last 20 years that go beyond any human brain. So who's to say we can't reach that one day?
@@dickmccarthy9496 Nope. He is right. Everyone is going to start realising Sean Dyche is the best manager ever and everyone will play a 442 till the end of the time.
@@NoCluYT ye
Great video, very thought provoking.
All the base formations have been seen now, 442/433/343/235/W-M/strikerless, etc... but the mechanics to which they morph from one to another within matches, influenced either by individual players qualities or effective coaching, will never stop evolving. Borrowing the chess analogy, all the opening sequences have been discovered, all with strengths & weaknesses (if you know them) exercising control of the board, but the variety of combinations in order to get the checkmate are limitless.
Sheff Utd's overlapping CB's & Atalanta's 352 are great examples of innovation within the framework of established tactical law, in both cases bringing old ideas into a modern football landscape. The overlapping CB's is a twist on the 'libero' capitalizing on Pep's influence of the modern FB playing almost like a DM hybrid, meaning they're more comfortable cutting in to fill vacant central space than they were 15-20 years ago - was only a matter of time before someone thought of it. And Atalanta's tactics are an insane blend of positional play with a direct passing focus predicated on maintaining width, but with the fluidity of 'total football' with a CAM playing like the F9 - so many different ideas coming together at once creating a unique ensemble piece.
This is like the idea there's only six or seven story archetypes in the world. Ground down into it's most basic nuts & bolts that's probably true, but that doesn't change writers coming up with creative twists on those foundations all the time, football's no different when it comes to tactics.
wow you really know ball
The most close minded intro I’ve ever heard LMAOOOOO
You missed the point sadly.
It's called sarcasm
@@maestro3138 *Depression
maestro sarcasm is meant to be funny
@@maestro3138 thags a wierd take given the video creator doesnt think that
Before einstein people taught that physics were over and nothing is left to learn
I think u meant physics*
That's just not true. No one in the know thought that. Things like fluid Dynamics were still explored
well I think you made a grave error equating football with science. Football is about solving 1 simple problem with 1 simple solution(winning) while physics isn't about 1 question with 1 solution. Football has 22 players and 1 ball on a standard rectangular field with 2 nets on each end. You can only do so much with fixed constants, you are bound to have finite formations and tactics.
@@ml8018 In 1900 lord Kelvin declaired in a famous speech that "Physics were eventually a clear sky: no obscurity in sight, except for two little clouds".
From those two little clouds were born relativity and quantistics.
not true.
Teams might play the same formation but the mystery behind each of the teams keep the sport alive. Football tactics will never die.
I subscribed for those outrageous first 13 seconds. Wonder what's coming next from this insightful guy...
Watch the whole video smarty
Bruh how can you get so many things wrong in a 13 minutes video
Lol... I don't even know where to begin
Somar Mohammad
What’s wrong
I watched the whole video without reading comments. Thought I was going mad.
I almost stopped watching, but at a certain point, it’s *entertaining-ly bad.*
I know.... Holland pressing in 70s is really stupid and different to today's pressing which evolved as counter to tiki taka, Holland pressed a ball with whole team leaving 1 player pressed and others free, which if today was used it would be embarrassing lose like 30-0, today's pressing is man to man, which makes sure every player can't recieve a ball easily and if he recieves i to be tackleded! Like Bayern vs Barca game, Bayern let Ter stegen have a ball while every player was pressed, making Ter Stegen go long almost every time to short front 3!
There is also passive Klopps Liverpool pressing, which only press when opportunity is right!
This is absurd... It's so condescending and niallistic to believe that this generation has already reached the "ultimate" level of tactics, when this has been said and disproven time and time again...
Back in Pele's time, the tactics used were based on constant formation shifting, putting as many men as possible in scoring or defensive positions, depending on the moment of the game. During this time, football relied heavily on transitions and "flair" from the intervienients. Moreover, people at the time also believed that the ultimate level of tactics had also been reached, being the best manager the one that could make its team play the largest amount of tactics successfully.
After this, however, tactics have developed a whole lot more! We had the cattenaccio, which was also thought unbeatable at the time; later, it was then fully beaten by ajax's total football, which then mutated into tiki-taka football, which brought the trend of possession football, and blah blah blah... but all of these tactics have come and gone, being forced to either adapt or disappear! I mean, for a period of time, the three-at-the-back formations had gone out of use aside from Italy, but ever since Conte's Chelsea, they seem to be making a come back!
This is not to say that all the previous tactics have all completely gone out of use, but their defining characteristics usually have had to shift in order to adapt to a new way of playing the game. Every time a team reaches the top of the game with an innovative tactic, someone somewhere will devise a tactic capable of beating it, forcing the game to adapt and improve. Naturally, we could eventually run into a stand still where every team plays the same tactic, but as soon as this happens, then everyone will know what their opponent will do, and if you know what your opponent will do, you can improve your strategy in order to win, introducing idiosyncracy into the mix and fostering further developments in the game.
All in all, I think it's unfair and arrogant even to believe that tactics will never evolve past this, or that there will never be another rivalry like ronaldo and messi, or that amazon will forever be the biggest company in the world, because if there is one thing that humankind has taught us throughout history is that, where it is possible to apply strategy, a long-run equilibrium point will unlikely ever be reached, because as conditions shift and technology and thinking process develop, so do our actions, and eventually, so does the world.
sorry for the long post... :)
That was goddamn beautiful. The last paragraph was the icing on the cake.
Bravo
Some things don't change. A lot of Europeans still bow down to royalty. Which is just so stupid.
Disagree. Look to athletics. Do people run faster, jump higher, jump longer or throw things longer? No. Records are seldom to see these days. In high jump they still talk about Sotomayor. His record is 26 years old. Of course there is difference between a physical performance and the mental mind needed for creating a tactic, but I think it has all been done before. The presenter is right. A roof is reached and people will start to repeat what has been done earlier.
Beautiful write up
Very interesting video for somebody who is absolutely obsessed with the tactics of futebol like me.
I have many ideas on how to revolutionise set piece defending and a few novel ideas on formations and tactics, but I'll likely only ever get to utilise them coaching in lower leagues here in Canada.
But I am glad to say they've worked very well.
Wonderful video!
Great video. I really enjoyed the way you went across football history. Chapeau.
I disagree with you. Development of football tactics had been possible because of some major changes in the rules of football (backpass rule,offside rule etc).if there is major change in the rules of the football then new tactics will develop.
Agreed. Even VAR and handball rules change can make it different. With the rules we can create tactics that depends on set piece like free kick, pen, and diving specialist because how easy to get fouled or handball nowadays.
Even one player with unique speciality can change the tactics. Nowadays we know the trend of ball playing goalkeeper and defender, false nine. Who knows maybe in future there will be new roles in the tactics.
Interesting, we also thought about the importance of rule changes. The development of Chapman’s “WM system” in the 30s for example was mainly caused by the change of the offside rule. But apart from that we couldn’t find any rule changes that really influenced the evolution of tactics in later years. Maybe VAR could lead to more aggressive offside traps? Or the possibility for keepers to pass to a teammate inside their own box when taking a goal kick - could that lead to a change of build up play? We are not sure, what do you think?
DW Kick off! Also the new kick off rule that doesn‘t necessarily need two players in the circle opened a whole new style to the game. Now the kick off can go to the defender who plays a long ball onto the wings. On the other hand the other team can use this risky backpass to the centerback and force him into errors. (Shane Long‘s fastest goal against Watford for example)
@@dwkickoff Actually the biggest rule change that created massive change in tactics was the back-pass rule. Since the keepers were not anymore allowed to catch the ball after a back-pass they needed to be better with their feet. Pressing became more common and that event actually forced the teams to play with high defensive in order not to leave to much space between the lines. And this reaction created another one - the other keeper needed to be "a sweeper keeper" and to cover only his penalty box, but even space in front of it. Keepers became part of the game offensively and that changed the game totally. Today keepers with good footballing abilities are better appreciated even than keepers who do have wonderful reflexes in goal. Take Ederson for example. I believe he can play as a midfielder almost everywhere outside the top 5 leagues.
@@dwkickoff Actually, the recent changes on the offside rule meant the end of Arrigo Sacchi´s defensive tactics. It´s kind of weird you didn´t take this into consideration.
Missed out Brazil 1958 to 1970, 4-2-4. England 1966 wingless system.
it similar to wm formation
And guardiola at bayern
Hungary also used 4-2-4 system under their football golden era (1950- 1956); they were the first ones whoes used full field pressing (ok, only for minutes but used), the change of the wing attackers (Czibor and Budai II liked to change their places under the match). Zakarias was the first central half who also used to center back at defending.
About the style: short passes on the field with individual tricks and fast attacks. So not only Hidegkuti's position was the hungarian football revolution. (by the way: Gusztav Sebes headcoach used this position for Hidegkuti because he was "too old" for running all time at the match, so it was not only tactical decision)
One funny thing: brazilian football roots belongs to some immgranted hungarians, so they are far- far relatives.
When the catanaccio was fallen, Netherland used the hungarians offence tactic and style but more faster and with full pressing under the match. It was dominated since the german "totalfootball" appeared.
See also Johnathan Wilson: Revolution of the Football
3-5-2 of Franz Beckenbauer, germany and Bayern - clog the midfield and control it.
Brian Clough's 4-5-1 in the European Cup final against Hamburg.
> how much german accent do you want in your video?
> yes
😂
i hate it
DEUTSCHLAND DEUTSCHLAND ÜBER ALLES ÜBER ALLES AUF DER WELT
@@damnbro0707 hahaha mad. But nice that you expose yourself as a liar btw - I worked there for 4 years. Germans have idioticly much vacation and work very few hours on average compaired to other countries in europe.Also, Pay your taxes!
@@sblbb929 you think in lying you twat? I'm still in your shit country for some days, wanna meet me in munich? I feel bad for germans and their poor life. I got 85k a year here and this country is just unenjoyable!
You are brilliant mate. Love your work
"The development of football tactics is over"
Manuel Neuer: "Hold my gloves!"
Also ederson: hold my tattoos
Apostol Sokolov (Bulgaria) invented the 'sweeper-keeper' many decades before the German guy (who executes it to its great)
@@VasilBelezhkov but neuer perfected, I don't think goalkeepers in the past were used in the build up hundreds times a game!
Higuita...
@@Nooraksi Rene Higuita and Petar Radenkovic were used to be an extra deep-lying playmakerczcams.com/video/oaCtjKXqBZ8/video.html
In Scotland we created golf, the telephone and the famous 4-6-0 formation 😂😂
But the first telephone is italian
It was also a team of 11 Scots that broke Catenaccio in 1967, but as always, that gets skipped over to talk about the Dutch. This video loses points for that.
Don't Scotland still play 4-6-0?
@@SomeBritishGal1 No, but they do get beat 46-0.
Actually Bell developed the telephone while living on his family's farm in Ontario. They'd already emigrated to the New World.
new tactic: 11 goalkeepers, essentially never leaving the 18 yard box
Thats what PSG should've done against barca in the 2017 champions league. Then they wouldn't have bottled it
if Mourinho ever sees this comment, he'll give it a try.
Tony Pulis does this
One of the best video on DW so far...
The only issue with this piece is that it's entirely Eurocentric. South Americans have been exploiting the long ball for a good while now, and it's still used to an extent today.
It sucks. South America has mostly individual talent p
South American football is where it's at
Europeans only think of Europe. So many good coaches are south American. The bielsa Academy from Newell’s (with his disciples), scolari and parreira, bilardo, Tavarez etc
@@djibrilr6su= 🙉🙈🙊
@@zephyrus9852 Lol explain me how am i wrong. You're the one being dumb as you're not showing anything to prove your point
The video is a fun romp through history, which is pretty informative at times. But when it comes to concrete discussion of modern systems it is too superficial.
For example: Liverpool's 4-3-3 with a False 9 and high press is not new at that level, but such is a useless description of Klopp's system. The magic is in how to cover which passing lanes, and when to trigger double tackles to force turnovers. And even then, the magic does always work, so Klopp has to shift tactics.
For example: Mourinho's system is not about avoiding risks or playing defensively. His governing principle is finding the game that makes the other team uncomfortable. Dogged defending is but one tactical path that Jose may choose, but there are other ways he knows how to play. And he decides based on the players he has on hand, and the weaknesses of the opposition.
Yep. The guys who did this "documentary" have 0 knowledge and documentation over football tactics. Philosophy and 4 moments of the game weren't even mentioned and they are fundamental to tactics nowadays.
my god i cant believe this is a DW Kick off video
u guys usually produce great content
Excellent video. Adapting tactics for each opponent was pioneered by Don Revie and his great Leeds United team of the 1970s. It hinged on Johny Giles, the "Midfield General".
The thing with revolutionary tech/tactics, is no one sees it coming until it arrives.
8-1-1. Everyone just chases the ball. BOOM! Innovation
Our coach played that system when i was 6 years old.
mankepoot at 6 we played 3-1-2-4 and we won everything because everyone was playing 10-10-10(chasing the ball)
@@mankepoot9440 your coach played yo momma when you were 6yo
@@jasonbarnes2668 That's what soccermoms are for.
@@mankepoot9440 😂
I loved the Trentemoler as the background music.
I love that my favorite TV channel made a channel for my favorite sport
Very well researched and edited. Great content man keep it up.
You should see Sheffield United play with our overlapping center backs
Nice tactic butArsenal were doing that in 2016 when they played a back 3 and Nacho Monreal was basically a lcb/winger
My God, those might just be the greatest 13 seconds on CZcams.
Everyone talking about the first 13 sec but I forgot what they were about 😂
German documentary production is a breath of fresh air. There's absolutely no fluff with so much substance.
I'm German and I just thought the opposite. 😅
Marc Tierschge ha ha ha I'm definitely with you here
Marc & Guiness - Germans not getting irony .. very funny
Tobias Hug and why is that funny?
Great video. I love stuff like this.
This was an awesome watch. Earned you a subscriber.
Glad to have you!
Nice vid. I think any tactics has its antidote. Its more important to employ whatever tactic maximize your teams strengths.
What about the evolution of ball playing goalkeepers in the modern game?
Yup he didn't mention that lol
Evolution has always been about minor adjustments to things. But with football, it is always about a balance between attack and defence. The two extremes are 1- parking the bus and 2- all out attack(where even the 'keeper goes forward). Everything else falls in between these two
You killed this video mate, in the first 13 seconds.
There has been a quiet revolution for goalies, since more and more goalies are for the most part required to play with feet more, and to distribute the ball for deep build ups. That and a sweeper keeper role that Manuel Neuer is known for. The whole part with the Center backs is old news. Italian clubs for years emphasized having elite backs. Milan with Nesta, Maldini, and later Thiago Silva. Juventus with Cannavaro, Chiellini, Barzaghli, and Bonucci. Inter was almost always anchored with Matterazzi. I’d in fact argue that this rush of transfers for elite defenders is the result of teams realizing the importance of building from the back
Players talents, motivation, hardwork and teamwork is more important than tactics.
DIssagree. You can have 11 superstars on the pitch and not win the game
Marko Đanić they would beat an average team with good tactics though.
StupidjimmyInc no.... Leicester city 2016 laughs at this comment
@@micahtshibangu7402 yes. Same as Monaco and Ajax
There are 4 aspects there (80% of most important aspects) against only 1 aspect (20%). Of course the 80% wins the importance race. Even kids understand that kind of comparison 😁.
You know nothing about chess. Alpha zero was finding new games in 7 moves
Yeah I’m sure 1.a4 a5 2. Ra3 Ra6 3. G4 g5 4. Rg3 Rg6 has never even played before in a professional game.
10:09 I love how similar the iphone 8 and NINE are
😁
Sorry for off-topic question, but: What's the song at 3:10? Not the original, but this particular version. Sounds good. (Great video btw! Really interesting.)
Marcelo Bielsa is also one of a kind with the 3-3-3-1 formation.
Or rather 3-3-1-3.
Yeah I was waiting for them to talk about that. Was surprised they didn't.
@@Lions4322 Yeah it's 3-3-1-3
A dislike because there was no mention of him. Bielsa is who pep got his inspiration from and even has a tactic named after him
Search for the word "failure" in the dictionary and a picture of Bielsa pops up.
To all of those that don't understand the intro; the intro is a reference to Francis Fukuyama's book "The End of History and the Last Man". In this book Fukuyama states that history is no more because of the end of the cold war. It is a very clever intro that fits this subject very well, it is a shame people don't understand this...
Explain more sir
Something that important is, the goalkeeper position is never changed
There can and will be new tactics but hey, this would be good as a tactical history video
As a football fan i'm very excited of that kind of football documentarys. They're interstended and very qualitative👍
Its always subjective and easy to say it's all been done before.
BUT KEEP IN MIND: Rules of football will inevitably change, and sometimes unexpectedly, and therefore will need to adapt.
1. No mention of passing goalkeeper (Manuel neuer role)
2. No mention of regista / ball playing defender (Leo bonucci, Sergio ramos, andrea pirlo)
3. Inverted winger ( Cr7, Robben , Lionel Messi, franc ribery)
i can do this all day . And NO - Football still evolving and we r just seeing the best style when everyone hv seen the best system and try to tweak it to work for their team
You didn't mention the tactic system developed by Carlos Salvador Bilardo which won the 1986 World Cup. The 3 -5 - 2 it was an innovation from the 4 -3 -3 and another correction I should make is that Arrigo Sachi was not the 1st one to implement the Off Side defensive tactic as a system. this was practiced way before by Netherlands at 1974 and also Argentina at 1978 World Cup. Anyway Thank you for sharing all this knowledge !!!
Tactics are more alive than ever. There were ages in which some teams applied refreshing tactics while some just played by the standards. And this has been circulating all the time.
I think we're going to start seeing goalkeepers coming out further and further to make an extra man for retaining possession and building attacks. We're already kind of seeing it now, I think they're going to start coming out further for longer phases.
Loved this video!
Very apt analysis
Creative ball playing goalkeepers will be the next revolution in football.
Ederson at Man City will become the norm.
Isn’t that why they made Manuel Neuer World Goalkeeper of the year 3 years in a row?
Hang on...4 years in a row
That is just Neuer.
@@dwkickoff Neuer is a sweeper keeper, Ederson is a ball player and could easily play in midield.
Sylvester Banini city know they can afford to have a ball playing gk who is susceptible to shots because they know they wont concede too many shots. other teams dont have this luxury and ederson would probably be a disaster elsewhere
Position football requires changes for every specific match like Manchester City. Inventing new football tactics occur every time a new player enters the pitch in a system based on position/field football.
Something I can imagine is the you only press when the opposition has the bal on their left side, while falling back when their right defender has the ball.
The bedt Ajax in recent years had their attackers constantly switching position.
And how you utilize the 10 could change? Jari Litmanen played on this position as a second striker choosing first post or second post.
Maybe the classic cross can be reinvented? Haven’t seen many wingers with a golden cross in recent years
Great video! :)
1793 Sheffield cricket club invented football
2019 Sheffield United introduce Over-lapping centre halves to premier league.
Football will never stop developing.
Sami Hyypia played 2-3-2-3 at Leverkusen during the 13/14 season before Pep
I'm from future, the new tactical innovation is having 11 outfield players, (essentially, goalkeepers are so good with ball at their feet, they form back three with 2 CBs and full backs being free to move in any direction)
Epitome of selective reporting
"defenders are becoming more expensive"
well yeah, so are goalkeepers, midfielders, and strikers,
no mention of Kepa, Joao Felix, Neymar, Mbappe, etc
Dunce
Especially Joao felix, what kind of stupid will pay 120M for such a shity player??
The only way to go now is to dispose of the traditional round ball and introduce a new, space-aged square one!
you cant reach the end of history wtf lol
Craig yes you can if know one is there to tell history there’s no history
@@amanthatlooklikeabear8791 there will still be history, there just wont be anybody to tell it.
it's a reference to a famous book that came out at the end of the cold war called "the End of History". It was a play on the socialist idea that history progresses inevitably towards socialism. When Socialism collapsed in the late 80s, it looked like the end of history.
I don't think that's what he meant, if you play closer attention I think he meant to say that every principal or concept in this world has already happened and show itself differently variations and forms through the ages. For example many say that the invention of the telephone is revolutionary (which it is) but the concept of communicating long distances without human interaction has been done through through the ages like messenger birds.
It is a reference to the contemporary philosopher Francis Fukuyama. Who basically stated that we were at the “end of history” because Marxist-Leninist governments that fell gave way to neoliberalism. And this was back in the 90’s when Fukuyama predicted that the world would just become liberal and no other political ideologies would take place or develop. Obviously that didn’t happen, but DW just wanted to have a funny philosophy reference.
You deserve alot more subscribers
I really like the video. Not particularly because of the content but it starts a really interesting conversation!
You established a thesis: "There won't be any new tactics in football." I've read many comments disagreeing with the statement and for good reason. Due to the rule changes and unforeseen tactics there will be changes. Maybe not major changes and maybe football will someday be fundamentally changed so you have to play differently.
I think the discussion is a good one. Even though some people have to lash out in the comments...
An example where different tactics could form: If the FIFA should decide to change the substitution rule to like it is in Handball/Hockey. With more players to be able to play, a more pressing or a more running-intense tactic could change the game completely.
What? Lol. Just because a tactic has certain aspects of another tactic that was done before, does not mean it was not a new invention. ticki tacka was certainly not total football, just like klopps total gegenpressing is not just hungary tactics from the 60s ^^. its like saying oh my gosh they have 11 players, just like us. man same tactic here. -.- just look on things like goalkeeping. teams use goalkeepers as a 11th field player sometimes. and by that i do not mean just neuer. but for example hamburg was using Pollersbeck as a goalie coming as far upfront as the central defenders, so they were going more wide, giving hamburg 3 deep backpass options 1 in central and 2 in halfcenter positions almost connection to the wings but still close enough to close in the center for the goalie to fall back. this meant pollersbeck had the job of a deep play maker like a nr.6 dropping behind the lines. what did that do? create an overload in central midfield for hamburg since they were attacking pollersbeck, but therefore leaving the central midfielders of hamburg unmarked and with a lot of space. we had all kinds of new things. teams without any strikers. teams with no wingers going for halfcenter positioning. overlapping centerbacks. well who knows what comes next? maybe triple wings? one defender, one midfielder and one striker overloading on the side? i dunno its possible and it was never seen as regular team tactic. maybe someone gets the idea to innovate the libero position again but this time deciding to have ONLY him as fullback and the rest of the team is either striker or midfield and because of that they are playing with 3 defensive 6s as midfielders instead of defenders. like that maybe they can create immense power in their midfield. the hell all of that may or may not happen. the possibilities are endless
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Maguire: im the tactic, sell me to other club and you will win
Nice and informative review on the old tactics, but in modern times i think you missed one of most important pieces of this puzzle: Carlo Ancelotti
Is that Vienna you are filming? Looks stunning
50 years ago they said the same :) boy were they wrong, and so will you
The best would be to learn to play with only 10 players against 11 so that one player is extra in that system, and if you get a player sent off you wouldn’t be so worried
Great video but you forgot Christian Titz tactics with Hamburger SV and nowadays Essen playing with the goalkeeper pretty offensive as a defender
2-3-5 is my favorite on Fifa.
2 defenders who only stay in front of the goal
1 defensive midfielder who provides cover for the defense
2 central midfielders who provide support for attackers or acting as left/right backs
5 forwards consisting of 2 strikers in the front, with a #10 behind them threading the ball to them and 2 wingers
It makes for a very fun and open game and very easy to score goals since you have 5-7 forwards against 2-3 defenders. And you're way more likely to get rebounds.
As for defensively, yes the other time is likely to tear through your midfield but your 2 defenders tend to be more than enough to deal with the 1 striker that most teams play with 1 striker
"Political history is over" you’ve got some pretty misjudged prediction there
Did you even watch the video?
@@TheGamingAlong yes I did.
I really learnt a lot
A big point is that players skills and abilities are getting better with the time, so probably with better players in the future, those players will be able to more functions in the game, putting more space for changes in tatitcs
Did not expect royksopp to be played at 7:00 you have great taste in music.
What is the name of the song?