Bane Occultist BUFFED?! Most insane league starter | Path of Exile 3.16 Scourge

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    With the new changes in the passive tree we build our Bane Occultist into Block, Ghost Shrouds, Evasion, and Spell Supression...and get even MORE damage with all that defense. This build is going to be SO nice to league start. I'm excited to share it here with you guys. Cheers and let me know if you have any questions!
    3.15 Budget PoB: pastebin.com/vXQHJqvU
    3.16 Budget PoB: pastebin.com/nNZPVUQj
    3.16 Final-ish PoB: pastebin.com/6LxuSps5
    Tytyiller Act 5 Witch leveling: • Informative Act 5 Guide
    Timestamps
    00:00 - Intro
    1:03 - First look at the new Passive Tree
    1:28 - Gear overview
    3:37 - Flasks
    4:04 - Cluster Jewels
    5:23 - Skill gems
    6:31 - Passive Tree changes
    9:43 - Ghost Shroud Keystone explained
    15:37 - Leveling
    20:22 - Alternative final Tree
    21:52 - Closing thoughts
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Komentáře • 314

  • @subtractem
    @subtractem  Před 2 lety +23

    Hey guys, I guess I didn't make it clear enough but the purpose of the build here for me was to demonstrate what roughly week 2 of gear and investment would look like realistically. This is why I left some of my current gear (and explained how to craft simple versions of all of those for your starter) in with the cheap uniques. This seems to not have jived very well with everyone. For me, the most important thing about a league start is "can it be viable, strong, and scale 1-2 weeks into the league" so that's what I aim for what working my league start PoBs.
    3.15 Budget PoB: pastebin.com/vXQHJqvU
    3.16 Budget PoB: pastebin.com/nNZPVUQj
    3.16 Final-ish PoB: pastebin.com/6LxuSps5
    For additional information on this build: czcams.com/video/7B1MtEQyU2k/video.html

    • @JKeydara
      @JKeydara Před 2 lety +4

      Thank you for the effort! I realise it's much more work intensive but personally I really f*ing love PoBs with multiple Trees/Gears and generally a clear pathway from "scuffed SSF leaguestart" all the way to "this is what min/max looks like"
      I was just about to look at your PoB and slot in some basic life/res gear with 1-2 cheap uniques, now I dont have to. Thank you for the guide!

    • @jessecraft1199
      @jessecraft1199 Před 2 lety

      Tractem becoming a well oiled input output machine. Input criticism, outputs gold. Thanks!

  • @Zakhi
    @Zakhi Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for making this video Sub, I was kind of stressing out the leveling aspect of it, so thanks for making it a part of the video as well!

  • @mr__khan5251
    @mr__khan5251 Před 2 lety +34

    Background lighting is looking real good

  • @AbrahamLincoln_
    @AbrahamLincoln_ Před 2 lety +20

    00:00 - Intro
    1:03 - First look at the new Passive Tree
    1:28 - Gear overview
    3:37 - Flasks
    4:04 - Cluster Jewels
    5:23 - Skill gems
    6:31 - Passive Tree changes
    9:43 - Ghost Shroud Keystone explained
    15:37 - Leveling
    20:22 - Alternative final Tree
    21:52 - Closing thoughts

  • @Subxenox15
    @Subxenox15 Před 2 lety +9

    I was super hyped at first, I didn't notice you had Blight selected instead of Bane, I was like Woah...They buffed Bane's dps by like 300%? lol. Still really good, definitely will consider this as a starter

  • @cuttygrass
    @cuttygrass Před 2 lety +2

    Great stuff as always. Really looking forward to your content this league, as usual!

  • @LikeACrouton
    @LikeACrouton Před 2 lety +2

    Also thank you for the build. I've been messing around with doing something weird with all the new masteries, but i realized, after doing a decent starter for once, that I should probably wait to be weird until after the starter lmao.

  • @JacquesDerderian
    @JacquesDerderian Před 2 lety +1

    love this build, my first real commitment into the game in the last league and I'm excited to use it in this league again!

  • @BundyFixesAll
    @BundyFixesAll Před 2 lety +39

    this is my league starter, all that's required is 3 ex, a mirror, 300 chaos orbs and a personal reach around by C.Wilson. Should be pretty easy to get on a general playthrough.

    • @grolich
      @grolich Před 2 lety +1

      Heh
      Luckily, the only mirror (at least in terms of prices) required for this build is “atziri’s mirror” ;)
      Well, a bit more than an alch of course… but ;)
      Only problem is - no mirror of kalandra - no Chris Wilson :(

    • @bonkbonk2670
      @bonkbonk2670 Před 2 lety +1

      Im sorry but if you cant league start with a occultist chaos build you probably cant league start with anything and you should be looking at other games ;) Like with other builds you have to have some kind of flexibility built into your mindset and also listen to what he says about gearing.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety

      Please watch the latest video.

  • @007vix
    @007vix Před 2 lety +4

    I played my first ever (bane) occult build two leagues ago (don't know WHY I took so long to get to it?!) and had so much fun. Seeming that the changes last league really sapped my fun and made me stop in 3-4wks, I need a fun carefree build. I think this is it. As a casual player who doesn't like to publicly trade (I usually only do it with friends/guild) I need something that's cheap, easy to understand and fun to get me to minimum T10 maps easy. This looks goooood.....thanks dude! I'll keep an eye on how this will pan out. Best of luck for the league start to yourself and everyone.....

  • @kmaguire7161
    @kmaguire7161 Před 2 lety +3

    I actually switched out of dodge and into block during Expedition because I just prefer block. It actually worked pretty well for me.

  • @Kinada
    @Kinada Před 2 lety +5

    I recommend grabbing Arcane Will right away, it fixes a lot of early game mana issues and it looks like it got buffed.

  • @franklinguerra7263
    @franklinguerra7263 Před 2 lety +1

    I will be following you along the way man! I'm wailling to do the same starter and probably push it harder into the end game like you did last league! taking into account that Bane didn't get any nerf but little buffs here and there, makes it a very safe and a strong league starter!

  • @daddydeadbones
    @daddydeadbones Před 2 lety

    Was literally just testing this. Always loved Bane. Glad to see it coming back!

  • @XombieKing
    @XombieKing Před 2 lety +2

    I was going to start with this. Excited

  • @evrE1aftermestolemyname
    @evrE1aftermestolemyname Před 2 lety +10

    cant wait to have your stream on my second monitor on league start. made expedition the best league start ive had with your chill vibes. keep killing my guy

  • @a2daj83
    @a2daj83 Před 2 lety +2

    Ty for updating

  • @jozwaters1388
    @jozwaters1388 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for this. Was exactly what I was looking for!

  • @Geliott
    @Geliott Před 2 lety +1

    Most cool is that we can add arc+decay setup for extra dps/clear

  • @YamiRuns
    @YamiRuns Před 2 lety +1

    Ngl, this looks and sounds amazing. Looks like I found a new league starter. I'm really looking forward to the new league and it is time that I try out new builds.

  • @lionman1982
    @lionman1982 Před 2 lety +32

    I'm quite sure we can level as chaos slinger too

    • @seapeajones
      @seapeajones Před 2 lety

      This is my plan. Chaos +1 recipe let's go!

    • @SleazyHelgaxoxo
      @SleazyHelgaxoxo Před 2 lety

      @@seapeajones gl finding 40% quality chaos gems, unless you mean some other recipe

  • @jwaldo9556
    @jwaldo9556 Před 2 lety +1

    Good video, good information. I've used bane to level just about every witch I have ever built. Pretty much walks to red maps with little investment. I've never tried to push bane to end game though. With your crafting videos I might give it a go this league. Thank you

  • @marksutherlandjr.2121
    @marksutherlandjr.2121 Před 2 lety +4

    Subtractum, you are quickly becoming my favorite content creator. After closely watching your approach to builds with Ziz, learning more about your experience in industry, your passion for music, and the over all decorum and relatability to your space and channel I find myself tuning in every chance I get.
    Even getting this content out quickly same night as PoB release to some degree, the way you prepared for ziz channel last week. It shows your work and commitment to content and that pays REAL dividends to us on this end that value your insight.

  • @PetePath
    @PetePath Před 2 lety

    Nice stream yesterday! definitely gonna play this as my starter!

  • @santa0704
    @santa0704 Před 2 lety +29

    This is high up in my list of "what am I going to play". Only issue is as other comments have said, this is not a league start guide/build. I know you cover it slightly in your explanation and some comments in the bottom, but what you consider starter probably 70%+ of your viewers won't even achieve 1-2 months in. I think what most expect from a "league start" is more act detail and bare minimum fresh leveling yellows gear/build. I know its very early and you'll be iterating and testing and changing thing, but I think the disconnect was the "league start" title combined with "this is my lvl 100 tree and end game jewels to boost numbers". I look forward to following along as this build progresses in the new patch, just maybe add a little more early granularity or make it more clear this is your projected end game setup.

  • @_PoLR
    @_PoLR Před 2 lety +2

    It's official, this is what I'm leaguestarting!

  • @chilloutsessionsv1
    @chilloutsessionsv1 Před 2 lety

    Will be doing this build for starter build! Gl everybody and thanks for the guides. very well done imho.

  • @berkdiggler5299
    @berkdiggler5299 Před 2 lety +2

    Damn I was really hoping no one would make a video on my league starter haha!

  • @docgerbil1956
    @docgerbil1956 Před 2 lety +2

    This is definitely a front runner for me cheers

  • @randjietsingh
    @randjietsingh Před 2 lety +1

    Thnx for a great build! What about the generic dot wheel left of the witch? Gots a lot of dot multi

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety

      It's pretty good, I'm debating that as well but I'm not sure if it pulls us too far left. Worth considering!

  • @G00R00
    @G00R00 Před 2 lety +1

    Great job man, thanks. Will you do Ele Hit raider before league starts ? cheers

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      I'm on the fence about it. It was SO good in 3.14 and I don't like some of the changes for the comfort levels to it but the mana efficiency stuff might bring me back. Cheers!

    • @G00R00
      @G00R00 Před 2 lety +1

      @@subtractem i guess ill start with a toxic rain raider, farm a little and choose between your CoC build or ele hit depending on infos i have

  • @jsing5022
    @jsing5022 Před 2 lety +1

    You’re the best man! Awesome update to a really cool build, just had one question about the leveling;
    What would be your order of importance for the ascendancy with the new changes?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      Withering Presence then Profane Bloom. Cheers!

  • @KeIegorm
    @KeIegorm Před 2 lety +88

    ah yes, leaguestarter with enlighten, empower lvl4, 3x awakened gems and more. Insane league starter.

    • @destroyermaker
      @destroyermaker Před 2 lety +12

      Also double influenced items

    • @jchampagne2
      @jchampagne2 Před 2 lety +5

      Yeah, that GG spider aspect and chaos level amulet alone is like 25% of the build's damage.
      Buyer beware on this one.

    • @imsorobo
      @imsorobo Před 2 lety +5

      if you remove the awakened gems and OP gear and put literally nothing in those slots, you'll get about 1mil dps. which I'd say is pretty good given that there is nothing in item slots.

    • @KeIegorm
      @KeIegorm Před 2 lety

      ​@@imsorobo 1mil dps and 11k EHP is kinda joke for league starter, dps is not totally crap but it will be oneshotted every minute on yellow maps. It is really really bad. 4mil dps for build with all priceless gems and items, included belt enchantements and such ? It its totally shit

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety

      Please watch the latest video.

  • @MGMarkov
    @MGMarkov Před 2 lety +1

    Good job man

  • @Gilazel
    @Gilazel Před 2 lety +1

    What are your thoughts on leveling with chaosslinger since we go really close to the top right mana reservation nodes?
    Edit: well just realized u talk about chaosslinger in the final of the video xD mb

  • @evopardo
    @evopardo Před 2 lety +1

    dont no why this video got a lots of dislike... but im pretty like it! tks so much :)

  • @eugenehardy5298
    @eugenehardy5298 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you.

  • @WhiteEuphoria74
    @WhiteEuphoria74 Před 2 lety +2

    Nice video but I don't understand one thing, should you focus on ES or Evasion with this build? How to balance things between this two?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      ES first for sure but then, as we gear up better, I'd like to see how high we can get Evasion. I think it's going to feel really comfortable actually.

  • @kowal6539
    @kowal6539 Před 2 lety +1

    Love bane, gib bless you share this build and i have chanxe to find it

  • @Dingelnator
    @Dingelnator Před 2 lety +1

    Nice gameplay btw

  • @crazedking
    @crazedking Před 2 lety

    Great video! I was wondering if you'll be making one for toxic rain as well :)

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks! I do have an updated PoB but I'm not sure if I'll be make a TR video, we'll see if I have time. This is my current rough pass: pastebin.com/RVXbhTYF

    • @crazedking
      @crazedking Před 2 lety

      Thank you!!! I really appreciate all the work and content you put out

    • @crazedking
      @crazedking Před 2 lety

      @@subtractem the pastebin you linked wasn't for toxic rain lol

  • @thatreallyawkwardguy
    @thatreallyawkwardguy Před 2 lety +1

    League started Bane twice now, and its never let me down, even getting me my first (PRE BULLSHIT-STORM NERF) Sirus kill the league he came out. its always been such a solid skill, my biggest problem with it is that is can be kind of boring to play, and some of the higher end scaling to make it amazing can get expensive fast, but explosions make it fun and it makes a satisfying POP noise so that's cool :P Still considering what to league start with but this is definitely high up on the list.

  • @axoliminator
    @axoliminator Před 2 lety +3

    I was looking at PoB yesterday and there was a 3node wheel really close to the top that gave around 30% damage recouped as life (i think it was called infused flesh), would this be worth it early on?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +2

      Those are nice nodes! It's a bit of a travel since we'd have to take 2 nodes that don't really do much but it might feel really good. Worth trying out. :) It's new stuff so I tried to stay with safer sounding this so far.

  • @liamsteele1
    @liamsteele1 Před 2 lety +2

    It's a pretty huge change, but did you look at es/armour (probably LL)? The es/armour wheels on the left are super juicy with great masteries. And with new determination you get great armour values. From my testing, it feels a little too spread out, like it needs about 5 more points to really fit well though. It was fairly easily 30k+ phys ehp. Yours is probably better, but I feeeeel the tweaking potential haha.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +2

      I didn't look that closely because, as you said, it looked a little spread out. I already feel a tad stretched going on the outside of the tree but it might be a good call! Worth testing.

  • @ragnarok6969
    @ragnarok6969 Před 2 lety +1

    In your tree you take the 4 nodes for spell suppression for a total of 35% (55% if on full ES) would it be worth taking the mastery on that spell suppression wheel for an additional 10% spell suppression if all gear is evasion anyway to add just a bit more of a defensive layer? pushing to nearly 33% a 27.5% reduction from spells assuming full ES or 22.5% from 17.5% assuming not seems worthwhile for 1 passive point.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      It's tough to make the call without feeling it out right now. I'm leaning towards seeing how high I can get my ES and hoping Ghost Shrouds carry me more. We'll see how it shakes out!

  • @timmers8135
    @timmers8135 Před 2 lety

    Actually starting with this and super smooth so far. Survivavility early on feels kinda rough but that might be my fault for playing totems like 4 leagues straight. Only downside: I dropped a 5link armor with the correct colors for Punishment Bane in A5 so I might have to change the order of ascendancy passives :D Love the guide, subbed, keep it up. Bane Pop is just so satisfying.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety

      Cheers! Check out the latest video for how I played it yesterday.

  • @LyngQ
    @LyngQ Před 2 lety

    12:30 you missed mastery for void barrier, has nice options including +1 es per 8 evasion on boots

  • @pjhardy6438
    @pjhardy6438 Před 2 lety

    I'm found of your build ! Definitly gonna league start with it. Just one question : did you consider going CI?what made you stay away from it ? Keep up with the great content :)

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      Because we get 60% chaos res from Withering Presence CI just doesn't give us that much value. Cheers!

  • @cyber_softie
    @cyber_softie Před 2 lety +2

    Two questions: In a previous video on this build you said 1 curse on Bane would be best for damage scaling, but you enjoy the utility of the second curse. Did that change? Why go 3 curses this time instead of another support gem?
    Aaand i can see it's real awkward pathing for the Growth and Decay chaos dot multi cluster, but you said you think it's low value in general for the end game tree. I thought multi was like THE THING that scales big boi damage. so i'm considering dropping third curse and maybe the evsion/es cluster down low to get the additional dot multi cluster. Thoughts, anyone? :D

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +3

      It's all relative, in fact if you have enough dot multi you get more out of "increased damage/spell damage" so you have to judge it based on what your current gear is, no absolutes here.
      In my very first video for this it was before they nerfed all the support gems. Since Efficacy especially gives us WAY less damage we're better off just going triple curse. Cheers!

  • @TarisRedwing
    @TarisRedwing Před 2 lety

    idk even know what to play having found so many fun builds last league but im for sure beyond ready and can't wait. Edit: thank you for the leveling tree thats always the one area im always messing up in and always feel weak I hope this helps.

  • @blackstarnevershines
    @blackstarnevershines Před 2 lety +14

    Vet here and while this is a nice build to start its no "leaguestarter" by all means in this constellation because it needs more investment to make it feel good. Don't build up noobtraps.
    While i like your guides you should mention that a lot more to newer players or make lowbudget routes for farmups and explain the procedure.
    Overall i think you overestimate the skilllevel of the normal playerpool.
    Most do not even understand how much currency they have in stray and cannot progress without this understanding.
    The support gems and the awakened skills won't be there for the first days and prices will skyrocket because 3.16 so making it even harder for normal players as the prices go up every day because of demand overflowing.
    This build stays and falls with it and while you can play with less damage it won't feel good or give a player a feeling of good progression. DoT builds feel bad with low damage.
    1 empower will be at least 1-2 ex so keep that in mind and while this is easy farmable in one hour for players with experience it is not for most "normal" players. A normal player plays at least two weeks to get to lvl90 or even more.
    The awakened skills are also scatchy since FR and TR uses some of them too and it seems like it won't get nerfed and i think most vets will figure out what will happen.
    Maybe use lvl19 gems in pob and not optimized gear and show and explain them how to progress and a lot more ppl will be hooked in the long term.
    Not the clicks but the reliability and transparancy will get you subs.
    Also i would strongly suggest going into blind because reasons and leaguecontent encounters.
    cheers

  • @Zoggest
    @Zoggest Před 2 lety

    Hey dude, great guide and great videos, but really you need to put a little section of showcasing your build in a map, it helps a lot to know if its something people want to try or not.

  • @jackcoles5120
    @jackcoles5120 Před 2 lety +3

    I've never really played a build like this before how would u recommend I approach it for leaguestart?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +2

      Check out the previous videos in this playlist and then pop into discord and stream and ask questions, I think it's a great starter build!

    • @jackcoles5120
      @jackcoles5120 Před 2 lety +1

      @@subtractem will do my dude thankyou for the build can't wait to give it a try

    • @marksutherlandjr.2121
      @marksutherlandjr.2121 Před 2 lety +1

      I'm coming over as well. I'll be doing this build for first time as well Jack.

  • @victorsato6074
    @victorsato6074 Před 2 lety +1

    What about using Grace instead of discipline+vitality ? You will have less EHP but you will evade much more hits(can combine with the blind from curse mastery for more evade chance), and when you got hit you'll recover more ES with Ghost Dance.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      Was looking at that later on in the stream, I think it's a very strong option!

  • @garentarpinian1716
    @garentarpinian1716 Před 2 lety +1

    hey bro, nice buildi most likely will try it! but i was wondering in your pob, on your left under chaos resistance you have " full dps" "full dot dps".. how can i put that in my pob, thanks!

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +2

      If you click on "skills" there's an "include in Full DPS" check box. Cheers!

  • @mordekais3er
    @mordekais3er Před 2 lety +1

    happy!

  • @SkillsBeyond
    @SkillsBeyond Před 2 lety

    Just like every other league starter build guide out there.. Endgame gear, endgame gems, insane cluster jewels.. League starter that can clear all content!!

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      Please watch my latest video for context.

  • @OViceroyO
    @OViceroyO Před 2 lety +3

    Hi subtractem, I get from you PoB link 3.9 mil DPS (yours 6mil), and different resists, what is different from the PoB from the video ?
    EDIT: 1 is crow of inward , but the i didnt find any other differences .

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      Please check the latest video :)

    • @OViceroyO
      @OViceroyO Před 2 lety

      @@subtractem I did yesterday and answered my question. Thank you !

  • @Feyd_TV
    @Feyd_TV Před 2 lety +2

    maybe show a little gameplay of the build with these types of videos - might be a personal preference - but it helps to show it's effectiveness

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety

      please check the video after this one :)

  • @infernumex
    @infernumex Před 2 lety +1

    Building defence on the new tree feels amazing, but now every build I plan ends up being zDPS 😂

  • @Wismito
    @Wismito Před 2 lety +3

    I wish someone with more brain than me for this kind of things made a Spellslinger ED Contagion build, i feel like with the new league mechanic that spawns lots of monsters it would be a great build (as i hate the 2 button playstyle of the normal ED Contagion)

    • @coulombeQC
      @coulombeQC Před 2 lety

      Litterally the same tree except you add some reservation nodes to also fit in soulrend, takes no brain its just less clunky but also less damage

  • @renaudtissier
    @renaudtissier Před 2 lety +2

    If you want to go hybrid evasion\es don't you want to use the curse mastery point that blind enemies?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      It's an option but it's tough to know the full value of it because of how hard blind was nerfed. Once we get enough evasion it might be worth it but I'm currently looking at evading as a small little bonus layer. Once the final PoB calculations are patched in we can take a closer look.

    • @renaudtissier
      @renaudtissier Před 2 lety +1

      @@subtractem I tried in POB with your gear have 36% chance to evade blinded ennemy instead of 30. As blind now scale better with more evasion and your gear is far from optimized it might be not a bad option. There is also curse cluster in the tree that give you 4% life recovery after killing cursed enemy and 2% life regen on hitting cursed enemy as I play SSF it might be a good alternative before finding nice cluter jewel. Anyway thank you for the build ideas!

  • @tyty8484
    @tyty8484 Před 2 lety +3

    A couple pieces of Pog gear, a few Cluster Jewels a splash of Abbarant Fossil rolling and I'm assuming a lvl 21 gem. That'll get us 3.5mil dps.
    So us normies will be sub 1mil dps for at least 2 weeks.

    • @yazilliclick
      @yazilliclick Před 2 lety

      You forgot the lvl 5 awakened gems

    • @spamstabber
      @spamstabber Před 2 lety

      @@yazilliclick and the empower + enlighten that are now like 1 ex or more for level 1.

    • @tyty8484
      @tyty8484 Před 2 lety

      @@yazilliclick oh yeah, i forgot those existed

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety

      Please watch my latest video.

  • @kidcassonsmash
    @kidcassonsmash Před 2 lety +1

    What do you recommend as the Ascendancy Order while leveling?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      Wither Presence -> Profane bloom. cheers!

  • @Dymahr
    @Dymahr Před 2 lety +3

    First, thanks for the update. I consider strongly as my leaguestarter. At the beginning of your video the pob full dot dps is shown as 6,4 million dps. After i import your pob it shows 3.9 full dot dps. I wonder where the different comes from. Any idea ?

    • @ulamss5
      @ulamss5 Před 2 lety

      He's showing vaal blight dps in the video lol

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety

      I've updated the PoBs to be more budget friendly. Please watch the latest video for reference.

    • @Dymahr
      @Dymahr Před 2 lety

      @@subtractem Thanks for you answer. Only to be clear, my question was not a critique, i was just wondering. I understood the purpose of your video and apriciated it. However, i also watched the new video. Thanks for your work.

  • @Ygnys
    @Ygnys Před 2 lety +3

    Do you think by any chance your coc arc raider still gonna be alive and viable with the changes?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety

      I think it'll be just as strong if not stronger but still very expensive.

    • @Ygnys
      @Ygnys Před 2 lety

      @@subtractem i would love to see some cheaper version, i really like How coc Arc works and your build feel so smoothy.
      You did a great work on that build man, makes me feel inspired on try things myself

    • @WizardosBoz
      @WizardosBoz Před 2 lety +3

      @@Ygnys cheap & CoC don't mix well imo

  • @deawanna
    @deawanna Před 2 lety +1

    Which order would you want to take the Ascendancy points in?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety

      Profane Bloom -> Withering Presence. Cheers!

  • @dennism.5145
    @dennism.5145 Před 2 lety +1

    Would have liked some gameplay footage or words about the playstyle. Are there any pops involved?

    • @bonkbonk2670
      @bonkbonk2670 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes from the occultist ascendancy

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      Check out my latest video for some gameplay. Cheers!

  • @EmoEmu
    @EmoEmu Před 2 lety +1

    This looks kinda sick. Millions of dps with goldrim and tabula.

  • @jurgenlang9795
    @jurgenlang9795 Před 2 lety

    a short clip off the skill would be nice

  • @igordorontic250
    @igordorontic250 Před 2 lety

    Love the Les Paul in the back:-)Do u think toxic rain raider will be viable for league start?Ik it s off topic here,but still wondering:-))

  • @joshchilton2336
    @joshchilton2336 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey just a quick one I tried to take Elder fight on last night and died a lot to him run out of portal :P . I have Char to level 92 and pretty good gear. Any tips with the fight on the build?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +2

      Hmm, I'd have to see some gameplay. The most important thing is knowing your dots last 3-5 seconds. Focus on dodging and don't try to cast too much. Cheers!

    • @joshchilton2336
      @joshchilton2336 Před 2 lety

      @@subtractem awesome thank you think it's just im still bit crap with mechanics of the fight :p

  • @lucasbiga8896
    @lucasbiga8896 Před 2 lety

    tyvm for sharing your thoughts on this! :) very cool and noob friendly video

  • @tomsoldier
    @tomsoldier Před 2 lety

    Can we get the PoB of Alternative final Tree?

  • @andrewwachsman7553
    @andrewwachsman7553 Před 2 lety

    Do you think your old holy relic guardian build will be viable this league?

  • @superspies32
    @superspies32 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi, if I want to transfer this char to CI version, what ascendancy should I regret for Vile Bastion. Or the Ghost Shroud is enough?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      I really think CI isn't going to play to the strengths of this build, the itemization becomes WAY less comfortable and I think you're going to lose out on a lot of damage. If you want to do that I'd change from Malediction probably. Cheers!

  • @90Rush
    @90Rush Před 2 lety

    You went with the right side of the tree for evasion/health/ES hybrid;
    I wonder if I can go left and upper side for life/armor/ES instead and take divine shield

    • @Izith69
      @Izith69 Před 2 lety

      I think the Problem is that a lot of damage comes from the right, due to all the dot multi

    • @90Rush
      @90Rush Před 2 lety

      @@Izith69 Nevermind. Divine shield is on the dead left, way too far away. I thought of going upper left because the ailment nodes are pretty juicy defensively (Anointed flesh and Asylum), and Acrimony wheel is pretty juicy, but even if I go upper left, there is just no way I'm going to be able to grab divine shield

  • @Redharp
    @Redharp Před 2 lety +1

    regrets will be in demand this league :)

  • @gustavaxborn4707
    @gustavaxborn4707 Před 2 lety +1

    92 in One week.. Yeah definitely!

  • @danzfloor1
    @danzfloor1 Před 2 lety +1

    Is there a way to make this build super tanky with all the Armor/Evasion changes and still have simular damage?.....Maybe some kind of Low Life/Evasion direction?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +2

      LL/Eva probably wouldn't be the way to but but I think you could REALLY push the ES higher if you wanted to. Maybe over 4k just on that which would be pretty strong!

  • @lost4evergirl1
    @lost4evergirl1 Před 2 lety

    Also, thought. Make your Evasion 10 points less than your ES. Then stack Brittle Barrier jewels. 10 x 20% = 200% faster ES start, with no downside of taking more damage as you're never on full ES. (Edit: re: using the new Ghost Dance)

    • @thatreallyawkwardguy
      @thatreallyawkwardguy Před 2 lety

      Gonna lose out on too much defense from evasion itself if you do that probably, and itll make ghost shroud garbage

    • @lost4evergirl1
      @lost4evergirl1 Před 2 lety

      @@thatreallyawkwardguy Oh ye, solely to trigger the not-on-full-energy-shield part: with 20% +15% +10 from tree and 3 jewels you have a delay of 0.98 seconds. With all 10 jewels, 0.58 second delay. Just a thought :)

  • @TheAnd1roid
    @TheAnd1roid Před 2 lety

    hej. i love your vids. can you say something about toxic rain raider with 3.16? I think many guys want to use her as a starter :)

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      It's looking really good! Here's my quick rough PoB: pastebin.com/0LLKZ7Mx

    • @TheAnd1roid
      @TheAnd1roid Před 2 lety

      @@subtractem thanks m8

  • @pwkn86
    @pwkn86 Před 2 lety +1

    hmm i think for pure map farming runnign with a carcass jack woudl be fun and decent for defences no? since its eva and es

    • @bonkbonk2670
      @bonkbonk2670 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes and i used a shadowstich later on in the game with occultist and it was great and this league it will be even better but also more expensive i guess but thats for later on.

  • @garbol84
    @garbol84 Před 2 lety

    Ohh first CZcams talking about occultist chaos dot in 3.16. I'm considering it as my starter. But I have a lot of doubts, my occultist was da/ca and defence was mostly dodge.. So I wanted to start as bane and changing it to death aura. What to can tell about defences?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety

      I explain all of this in the video :) It looks very good going block + evasion/es.

  • @vortexoffapop9318
    @vortexoffapop9318 Před 2 lety +1

    Will be viable to slap a Death oath for death aura in this/similar setup?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      It would take some changes but if you want an autowalker that will work yeah :)

  • @Roleplay_animal1life
    @Roleplay_animal1life Před 2 lety +2

    Would be so sick to squeeze in immunities mastery from ele resistances. Resistance and Ailment Protection Mastery: Corrupted Blood cannot be inflicted on you

  • @synthesis9957
    @synthesis9957 Před 2 lety +1

    Yesssssss

  • @vpristalenko
    @vpristalenko Před 2 lety +1

    I uploaded 3.16 Budget PoB: pastebin file to my path of building and it shows only 175K DoT DPS. Do I missing something? I havent do any adjustments in configuration, so these numbers are exactly what I see from file

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      That would be bane alone. Also you have to check wither stacks and you get a lot of low life damage from punishment. Don't forget that it's about combining Ed and blight ad well.

  • @Newnewhuman
    @Newnewhuman Před 2 lety +1

    I never played occultist, is the chaos nodes on top left corner not worth taking?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      It's a viable alternative, the issue is that you are then stretched pretty far. They're overall kind of lower value than the ones on the right but you can try both. :)

  • @Limiate
    @Limiate Před 2 lety +3

    POWER DAD GAMING

  • @venntof.9095
    @venntof.9095 Před 2 lety +1

    So, I played a Bane variant and I love the spell, but how do you cope with physical damage? No matter what I've tried, phys mitigation is very underwhelming

    • @seapeajones
      @seapeajones Před 2 lety +1

      This is a kiting build at it's core. Apply your DOT & keep it moving! I think there is yet more to see with the variability of scourged gear.

  • @TheSchultzZ
    @TheSchultzZ Před 2 lety

    u dont get +1 curse while levelling by the CI node?

  • @willtom8146
    @willtom8146 Před 2 lety

    Well, seeing the build right now, is there any plus beside more damage then trickster? He can get 75% block and spell block with 80% avoidance + spell suppression while having around 1,5mil dps if we are going health or 15k while being CI dropping avoidance yet having 2,4K es regen.

    • @jwaldo9556
      @jwaldo9556 Před 2 lety

      how are you getting 75% block and spell block?

    • @willtom8146
      @willtom8146 Před 2 lety

      Glancing blows - Easily achiveable with some passive point investment.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      Profane Bloom, free curse, 60 chaos res, 10% less damage taken.
      If you're playing HC then Trickster makes sense but in SC especially I would rather take Occ every time. Cheers!

  • @adamwilliams3336
    @adamwilliams3336 Před 2 lety +5

    I'm going to trust you, as you're much more knowledgeable in POE than me, but I must say 4k life, 2k ES, low evasion and low block feels quite squishy. Played an ES variant last league and with minimum investment (league starter, bought 2 rings) I had 8k5 ES by white maps, up to 9k5 at the end. With increases to ES values of gear this league, the 10k marker should be easily obtainable.
    Also, surprised you didn't go for any of the new ailment masteries - personally going to go for free corrupted blood immune.
    But you seem to think this is pretty tanky, so I'll try it out.

    • @MrHazz0
      @MrHazz0 Před 2 lety +1

      I also have hundreds of hours as bane, "left-click defense" is definitely a thing, but having the games best Temp chains + hinder, and if you wish, enfeeble, + malediction, is rather underappreciated EHP. It is a kiting build at its core

    • @hintonjamest
      @hintonjamest Před 2 lety +2

      Bro he's wearing a tabula

  • @ocherednoytrickster8195
    @ocherednoytrickster8195 Před 2 lety +1

    11:56 i looked into this PoB and it said that you get dot multi for all chaos res, not just above 0%. So you will already get 15 multi just from the occultist notable that gives +60 res. But may be pob is wrong about that?

    • @hedizaoui609
      @hedizaoui609 Před 2 lety

      I think you're right, to get capped you need 135res, if you divide that by 4 instead of 75 being res capped should give us 33.75 dot multi, not 18.75, making the mastery even better

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety

      Great find! That's awesome.

  • @minhocho5487
    @minhocho5487 Před 2 lety +1

    What do you think is a realistic dps without cluster jewels and day 1 gear?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety

      Even if we cut it in more than half we're still in the combined 2-3mil range which is very comfortable for early Sirus kills. Important thing will be leveling up your gems and getting an Essence of Delirium on for your gloves. Cheers!

    • @minhocho5487
      @minhocho5487 Před 2 lety

      @@subtractem Thank you! I think you just sold me on this build for my starter!

    • @minhocho5487
      @minhocho5487 Před 2 lety +1

      @@subtractem Do you by any chance have a non-cluster jewel passive tree just in case I don't get them early?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      @@minhocho5487 It's really exactly the same but...no cluster jewels. :) You can grab Growth and Decay in the mean time. Cheers!

    • @minhocho5487
      @minhocho5487 Před 2 lety +1

      @@subtractem thank you I hope you get mirror drops this league!

  • @daemonphil3132
    @daemonphil3132 Před 2 lety +1

    HYPE

  • @synthesis9957
    @synthesis9957 Před 2 lety +1

    I love bane

  • @blabla871
    @blabla871 Před 2 lety +1

    what is the sequence for ascendancy? what would be the order to take?

    • @WheresTheAnyKey1
      @WheresTheAnyKey1 Před 2 lety +1

      he has an older video where he probably explains - i havent seen it all i forget

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +2

      Wither Presence -> Profane bloom. cheers!

    • @blabla871
      @blabla871 Před 2 lety

      @@subtractem thanks, dude, i watched the other video and made a tree iteration on your build, only to find that if you go at the start towards corruption and heart of darkness in the first 20 levels the dmg scales towards late with almost half of a million more until lvl 83. of course taking acrimony too

  • @rahularora37
    @rahularora37 Před 2 lety

    Please make another video in the future to showcase full build and jewels

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      That would be my previous video in this same playlist for the v2 occultist. :)

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Před 2 lety +1

      czcams.com/play/PLB5E9QGEaOtapGHGLgZ-aT3_cnRH9mmKL.html here's a full playlist of the build if you're interested in more.

    • @rahularora37
      @rahularora37 Před 2 lety

      @@subtractem okok ty