On that other side of things they could do a second weekly show answering listeners questions from a few years ago because of their extremely amazing organisation skills means that they have only just got around to them
We are at an inflexion point for supercars. Manual gearboxes, naturally aspirated engines, the new Bugatti being slower than the previous one... EVs have made performance numbers irrelevant, so the arms race seems to finally be coming to an end, and the manufacturers can go back to making actually interesting stuff. Even some of the EVs are interesting in their own right. In a way it's like mechanical watches, rendered obsolete by quartz watches that do the job cheaper and better, so now they've become an ode to engineering and craftsmanship for enthusiasts. I won't ever own a supercar, but I'm excited to drive this current batch in the next Forza video game!
How can “supercars” be super if performance is no longer a priority? Assuming EVs are not interesting because they don’t make loud sounds is funny. Is a 4 cylinder Toyota fascinating to you?
@@hovanesmarkaryan896 are you intentionally missing my point, or just a bit dense? surely you can't have missed the part where i said some EVs are interesting. and you're making some crazy assumptions there.
@@Zanpaa You say “some EVs” as if all gas cars are interesting, also comparing to watches is wrong because watches are obsolete in the modern world. There will come a day when the majority of sports car enthusiasts accept EVs just like they did with automatics vs manual
@@hovanesmarkaryan896 Top performance is always a priority, what is no longer interesting is the numbers battle. In the new Bugatti the V16 sound a feel are going to be much important than the raw power of the old W16. The new model it's slower but still ridiculously fast, and at the same time it will be more nice and fun to drive.
I've really enjoyed all the great coverage this year, including the fabulous content from those sweet sweet guys @smithandsniff. Must try to get there for the next one and experience it all in person.
Thank you Sniff for avoiding Americanisms and saying titanium properly. It takes courage these days, even Harry M and Jay have fallen victim to tie-tanium! 😁
1:22 I didnt even realise they were scrapping F22 Raptors to be recycled... whatever the scrap man pays when they weigh them in I'll match it. Im sick of my neighbour having air superiority over me. I cant even put the bins out without a hail of JDAMs coming my way.
Oh my dear Johnny...... 3.3 million...... the Pantheon of the Gods........ They wrote this just for the pantheia....... spelt wright....haha, double meaning...... but real. Great post.. Luv it.
Anyone remember the days when the most extreme and fastest hyper cars costed 300-400k... Still don't understand why everything now is north of 7 figures 😮💨
I loved this video, and I love Smith and Sniff but the discussion really showed why i have no interest in supercars now. "They are only making 20". "It's 3.3million". Obscene and unnecessary, you also know every single one will be in a massive collection wherre it will get driven once at Monterey Car Week when it is new, and never again.
Great cars, but things have changed so much(old fogey alert).. when I was 30 I owned a 911 Carrera 4, which was easily affordable for an IT professional. 25 years later I certainly can't afford one. My earnings have gone up but nowhere near fast enough to keep pace with fast car prices. Back then, a Lamborghini or Ferrari was in touching distance, now they are lottery dreams. Even more so the Bugattis, Paganis, Koenigseggs, McLarens etc. Ah well.
The Chinese never build a proper quality combustion engine , but with EV crap they know it because of the cheap RC toys they make I’ll quess .. a EV is just a big RC car offcourse
Living in a part of the world where there are plenty of Chinese cars on the road, they are generally very well made vehicles (EVs and ICU cars). China's BYD EVs now out sell Tesla worldwide and (for sure) they're better made than a Tesla. People said similar things when Japanese cars appeared in Europe in the 60s and 70s (and the Japanese haven't done too badly since). The fact is that in that in Asia/the Far East (Japan, Korea, and China) they make better cars than the Europeans and Americans do.
Johnny whats spoils this and the previous video is your co-presenter, he is obnoxious, insubordinate, belittling, and has a revolting humour. He is simply not a nice person.
Clearly don't understand Mr Porters humour. He's a very funny and interesting man. If you're a van of the majority of car media in the last 20 years he is one of the main men at the root of it
whats the speed limit in the UK again? 48kph for most parts and 32kph in wales. Where is the lucid air which makes everything else there a joke? still waiting on someone to put "the worlds fastest suv" the 707 up against a tesla model x. what a joke aston are. Aston who will getting their power from lucid real soon as their cars are complete overpriced crap.
Sweet sweet supercars.
These guys should do a Podcast. On that side of things.
@@beatles4sale2007 lol
On that other side of things they could do a second weekly show answering listeners questions from a few years ago because of their extremely amazing organisation skills means that they have only just got around to them
Meh. Nahhhh
@@benllewelyn98That's an awful idea.
A sweet sweet podcast.
We are at an inflexion point for supercars. Manual gearboxes, naturally aspirated engines, the new Bugatti being slower than the previous one... EVs have made performance numbers irrelevant, so the arms race seems to finally be coming to an end, and the manufacturers can go back to making actually interesting stuff. Even some of the EVs are interesting in their own right.
In a way it's like mechanical watches, rendered obsolete by quartz watches that do the job cheaper and better, so now they've become an ode to engineering and craftsmanship for enthusiasts.
I won't ever own a supercar, but I'm excited to drive this current batch in the next Forza video game!
How can “supercars” be super if performance is no longer a priority? Assuming EVs are not interesting because they don’t make loud sounds is funny. Is a 4 cylinder Toyota fascinating to you?
@@hovanesmarkaryan896 are you intentionally missing my point, or just a bit dense? surely you can't have missed the part where i said some EVs are interesting. and you're making some crazy assumptions there.
@@Zanpaa You say “some EVs” as if all gas cars are interesting, also comparing to watches is wrong because watches are obsolete in the modern world. There will come a day when the majority of sports car enthusiasts accept EVs just like they did with automatics vs manual
@@hovanesmarkaryan896 Judging by how many people are fawning over the GR Yaris and GR86, I'd say yes. 4 (or 3) cylinder Toyotas are very fascinating
@@hovanesmarkaryan896 Top performance is always a priority, what is no longer interesting is the numbers battle. In the new Bugatti the V16 sound a feel are going to be much important than the raw power of the old W16. The new model it's slower but still ridiculously fast, and at the same time it will be more nice and fun to drive.
Sweet Sweet guys, OTSOT CMTMB
The 'Peter Kay' gearbox was my favorite line when talking about the Porsche. 😂
I've really enjoyed all the great coverage this year, including the fabulous content from those sweet sweet guys @smithandsniff. Must try to get there for the next one and experience it all in person.
Sweet sweet guys. Really neat bumper videos between cars.
A right pair of SSGs
Pair of flutes
At 10.23, it's fascinating to learn that the hybrid system is integrated into the "Peter Kay" gearbox. Every day is a school day!😂
Yes, Peter is exceptional at fast shift twin clutch boxes. The Germans rate him.
well done!...ty to Smith, Sniff and Goodwood!
This is why Porsche cars are so popular. A beautifully made sports car with ample power but without a million pound price tag.
Great video, only complaint is that it wasn't long enough!
Sweet sweet guys
Thank you Sniff for avoiding Americanisms and saying titanium properly. It takes courage these days, even Harry M and Jay have fallen victim to tie-tanium! 😁
How hard must it be to tie tanium?
@@TheLateBrakeShow Indeed, form an orderly queue, I’ll bring the tanium. 🤣
Goodwood in the suxties....it was dufferent time....
Alonso probably doesn't want to put too many miles on the Megane so he ordered a daily driver?
Some of those looked like they could try to keep up with a 2.2 Prelude. They would fail, but they would try...
@@Snowy-666 Believe yeah
Believe yea, never seen a rev counter do that before
That's never gonna happen.
Missed opportunity for going full Woollarding at the moment of... 'We said fine'
Now, the genteel grounds of Goodwood are not the place to be pulling any kind of Woolard, and absolutely not a Double Full Frontal Woolard!
9:45 the 930 turbo only had a single unit
@4dshow 930 and 964.
Thanks very much for the great content, guys. I think you make a great double act 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Wow Fabulous cars, and terrific content, cheers guys
All of them cars are beautiful but they have nothing on the real star of the show, which of course is the prelude.
@@JoosieBeeb98 2.2 yeah?
Believe yea
The 79-82 Prelude
Crazy fast mate..does like 200 miles an hour...serious
Naturally
There was a lovely Tourbillion on display outside the Bugatti stand. I've put my order in 😂
2:53 sounds like a very cheap budget tyre brand 😂
1:22 I didnt even realise they were scrapping F22 Raptors to be recycled... whatever the scrap man pays when they weigh them in I'll match it. Im sick of my neighbour having air superiority over me. I cant even put the bins out without a hail of JDAMs coming my way.
It will be the swarf off machining parts for them. Ironically McMurtry's main firm Renishaw are a global leader in 3D printed Titanium!
9:04 "Just when you think they have pushed the envelope so far that there is no envelope left, they build another envelope" Johnny Smith, 2024
I see that Richard has dropped his Bond Villain look for this one, I kinda miss it.
Thanks guys. I must go next year.
Ah yes the T50s weighs under 900hp, of course
Aston Valor looks like a vantage with a rocket bunny kit added.
Oh my dear Johnny...... 3.3 million...... the Pantheon of the Gods........ They wrote this just for the pantheia....... spelt wright....haha, double meaning...... but real. Great post.. Luv it.
It’s the Porsche for me, because they aren’t 2mil and they don’t stop making them after 100.
Came here from latest S&S 'cast... Jaundiced and Ruddy indeed lol
TBF, I think he's talking about the grade in the Bonhams video which we will admit was... interesting.
Someone at Ferrari needs to have a word with whoever has been designing the rear light clusters lately
Love the eurovision style cut scenes
These Guys Sound Like "Spinal Tap"..."This one goes to eleven"...
The Bugatti Menstrual is there!
Anyone remember the days when the most extreme and fastest hyper cars costed 300-400k... Still don't understand why everything now is north of 7 figures 😮💨
No way! its been a year already
It's fitting Richard presents the throwback to the old Koenigsegg after it was crashed on Top Gear
3.3million 'duck quack' 😂
I think you guys need to look up just how big the number billion is .
Oh that Mustang GTDahhhhh.
Can we get a tour of the rest of the pits? I want to see the smaller brands like Analogue's Elise.
Where is Pagani??
You missed a chance to speak on the car which would go on to set the production car record at goodwood
Envelopes interest me.
4:49 Lithium Ion battery?
The tourbillion was there through? Up on the Bugatti stand
No one has mentioned that the yang Wang can jump a foot off the ground standing still
Do my eyes deceive me or was that an aerial on the rear guard of the Mustang. Bugger me!
@12:39 WOW! That Bugatti Mistral is a pretty, pretty car. 😍
FERRARI SP8 = ❤
Did the TopG get one of those new Bugattis..?
I loved this video, and I love Smith and Sniff but the discussion really showed why i have no interest in supercars now. "They are only making 20". "It's 3.3million". Obscene and unnecessary, you also know every single one will be in a massive collection wherre it will get driven once at Monterey Car Week when it is new, and never again.
@@scottsherman7069 I guess they are Halo cars really. The tech in them does eventually filter down.
You say "now", which means you were able to afford and daily drive older supercars at the time?
You're never going to own one so why do you care what the rich will do with them
im so sorry Aston after all the man hours and money youve put into that car all i see is a V12 Mustang
Has Richard Porter started colouring his hair?
Great cars, but things have changed so much(old fogey alert).. when I was 30 I owned a 911 Carrera 4, which was easily affordable for an IT professional. 25 years later I certainly can't afford one. My earnings have gone up but nowhere near fast enough to keep pace with fast car prices. Back then, a Lamborghini or Ferrari was in touching distance, now they are lottery dreams. Even more so the Bugattis, Paganis, Koenigseggs, McLarens etc. Ah well.
11:10 Do I see a GT3 Touring back there? That one is more interesting 🥰
@@fhwolthuis the ST no less.
He not askked for Track Version of Megane Diesel :D
But I am, make it Renault you cowards
Renault did make a megane diesel rs . So try agian 👍😉
Lance is out 🤣🤣🤣
1:34 you mean FAWWWWWWWWWWD right
Oi Oi
GTD is the car of the show
The Chinese never build a proper quality combustion engine , but with EV crap they know it because of the cheap RC toys they make I’ll quess .. a EV is just a big RC car offcourse
Living in a part of the world where there are plenty of Chinese cars on the road, they are generally very well made vehicles (EVs and ICU cars). China's BYD EVs now out sell Tesla worldwide and (for sure) they're better made than a Tesla.
People said similar things when Japanese cars appeared in Europe in the 60s and 70s (and the Japanese haven't done too badly since). The fact is that in that in Asia/the Far East (Japan, Korea, and China) they make better cars than the Europeans and Americans do.
Purche? Supercar? LOL
Great cars, but these 2 together have made me throw up in my mouth a few times 😂😂😂
I’m so bored of supercars! Pointless, boring, automatic accessories. They have become toning more than a Louis Vuitton hand bag.
These guys are so cringe - stop looking at the camera 😂
That Bugatti is fugly
And you sir, are Stevie Wonder.
Super cars are for people who have forgone their humanity
Johnny whats spoils this and the previous video is your co-presenter, he is obnoxious, insubordinate, belittling, and has a revolting humour. He is simply not a nice person.
Haven't heard the word "insubordinate" since megatron called it his pal starscream in the transformers cartoons !
Clearly don't understand Mr Porters humour. He's a very funny and interesting man. If you're a van of the majority of car media in the last 20 years he is one of the main men at the root of it
Funny then given they have been great friends for years and present the No1 Automotive podcast in the UK! OTSOT
Why are most car journalist/presenters so smarmy and slimy
whats the speed limit in the UK again? 48kph for most parts and 32kph in wales.
Where is the lucid air which makes everything else there a joke?
still waiting on someone to put "the worlds fastest suv" the 707 up against a tesla model x. what a joke aston are. Aston who will getting their power from lucid real soon as their cars are complete overpriced crap.