NOTE** Be aware that the throttle body shown in this video has been installed incorrectly. The throttle body should be turned 180 degrees where the electrical cable and servo unit is to the rear (or left if you are looking at it).
I can say from experience, if you go to this much trouble for the ribbon - replace the garbage stock throttle body mount with a billet 1 piece unit. They fail all the time. Cheap a bulletproof after.
He installed the Riva ring with arrow pointing in air flow direction, which is away from throttle body. Two videos I've watched have done this the same exact way, are you saying they did it wrong? To point arrow towards the throttle body means it's pointing away from air flow direction.
that ribbon serves more purpose then you think...and the whole "it prevents backfire" is far from its main purpose. Its main purpose is to regulate air flow which is why its in the throttle body in the first place. Serves same purpose as a Mass Air Flow sensor "grid or screen" commonly found on vehicles. Which when said individual was looking for ways to improve fuel economy and add horsepower--giving by throttle response, accel/top end as well as improved engine sound you would simply remove the grid in the throttle body/MAF sensor section of intake. Most times this was done inconjuction with adding upgraded performance filter or full on filter intake kit. The only down side to removing the grid/screen is most vehicles you would have to disconnect battery to reset ecu. But after a few hours or days it the computer would adjust itself back to normal to makeup for increased airflow or it would cause poor running. which is why when you do stuff like this its best to have the PCM/ECM/ECU reprogrammed to allow for the increase in air. Or else your gains will also be seeing losses in other areas
Question Will the ECU auto adapt to the air fuel mixture after this install as you will have a leaner mixture now Or will you have to now buy the tuning module to get the right air fuel mixture best to let people know this As a lean mixture is not good
@@Pwcmuscle so there is no need to flash the ECU after removing the ribbon, because it will adapt to the increased air flow? I know on my fuel injected atv, if you didn't add a power commander you would have a lean condition with all that extra air. Just curious what's different from this injection system and computer than the one on my fuel injected Yamaha ATV engine? It would seem that the ecu retune by Dean's or Riva would in conjunction with the ribbon delete,. would wake the engine up a bit because the reflash is where the added fuel comes from that richens up that new air from the ribbon being out
@@bobbyhorton4034 A tune will absolutely wake up the engine, and we highly recommend it. But without the ribbon, you don't get a lean condition because of the way the sensor works with the supercharged yamaha engine
Hello, great videos on the new models very well done! I have a Yamaha FX SHO from 2011 and I am changing the power filters to K&N and I can not find anywhere on the internet where you install the engine breather filter, can you help with a suggestion or a link to a pictographs?Once again, great videos, keep it up!
We don't have an FX SHO on hand to show you, but here is a Riva's instruction manual for how to install their part. Hope it helps! rivaracing.com/file/2049-RY13040+-+%6011%7E09+FX-SHO+%26+FZR-S+Performance+Power+Filter+Kit.pdf
i bought a new 09 fzr and what i did was remove the entire air box and put a 90 degree rubber hose on the front of the supercharger and a small filter at the oil reservoir
The ribbon is there to help prevent a backfire from reaching open air. The air filter, supercharger, and intercooler will all do this as well. The air filter is mounted up high, so it'd be pretty hard to suck up water with it
Is this mod air intake, Ribbon delete etc legal? Not trying to be smart but don't know if the emission laws apply to watercraft. I would like to do most of these especially the water box delete... Thanks
The ribbon is not an emissions device, it is to prevent backfire from reaching the engine compartment. You still have the intercooler, supercharger and filter preventing this as well.
is it a same process for a 2018 gp ? I see some people requiring to drill it out..lil confused here. If its a pull and put I would like to do this mod. Thanks in advance!
What about exhaust? the stock exhaust looks pretty bulky. I would think between swapping air intake, exhaust, and switching to a lightweight battery there may be a decent drop in weight.
Hi i have a 2019 fx svho and im fitting the tial bov i want to tap the manifold instead of running from the map , whats the best way to do this and whereabouts on the manifold will be best placement for the tap
@@Pwcmuscle 2016 plastic intake. I found that out yesterday having to take it all the way off just to get to a temp sensor. This video helped tremendously by the way! Haha! 👌🏽
Nope. Flame would have to get past an intercooler AND turbocharger compressor to reach the air intake, and then the air filter is there to prevent it from reaching the hull. Still alive and well!
NOTE** Be aware that the throttle body shown in this video has been installed incorrectly. The throttle body should be turned 180 degrees where the electrical cable and servo unit is to the rear (or left if you are looking at it).
you are correct.
I can say from experience, if you go to this much trouble for the ribbon - replace the garbage stock throttle body mount with a billet 1 piece unit. They fail all the time. Cheap a bulletproof after.
The arrow on the riva ring is supposed to point towards the throttle body
He installed the Riva ring with arrow pointing in air flow direction, which is away from throttle body. Two videos I've watched have done this the same exact way, are you saying they did it wrong? To point arrow towards the throttle body means it's pointing away from air flow direction.
Great stuff guys!
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Will this work on a boat I have a 230sx and it has one on each one of the throttles wonder if it will increase hp?
that ribbon serves more purpose then you think...and the whole "it prevents backfire" is far from its main purpose. Its main purpose is to regulate air flow which is why its in the throttle body in the first place. Serves same purpose as a Mass Air Flow sensor "grid or screen" commonly found on vehicles. Which when said individual was looking for ways to improve fuel economy and add horsepower--giving by throttle response, accel/top end as well as improved engine sound you would simply remove the grid in the throttle body/MAF sensor section of intake. Most times this was done inconjuction with adding upgraded performance filter or full on filter intake kit. The only down side to removing the grid/screen is most vehicles you would have to disconnect battery to reset ecu. But after a few hours or days it the computer would adjust itself back to normal to makeup for increased airflow or it would cause poor running. which is why when you do stuff like this its best to have the PCM/ECM/ECU reprogrammed to allow for the increase in air. Or else your gains will also be seeing losses in other areas
It runs off MAP
love it..but the parts are WAY over priced..330 for a air intake..wth!....
Thanks so much dude!!!
can you remove throttle body without removing intake manifold?
Question
Will the ECU auto adapt to the air fuel mixture after this install as you will have a leaner mixture now
Or will you have to now buy the tuning module to get the right air fuel mixture best to let people know this
As a lean mixture is not good
It "adapts". There is a sensor and it just reads the map according to the sensor's output and the RPMs and throttle position
@@Pwcmuscle Thanks good to know
regards
@@Pwcmuscle so there is no need to flash the ECU after removing the ribbon, because it will adapt to the increased air flow? I know on my fuel injected atv, if you didn't add a power commander you would have a lean condition with all that extra air. Just curious what's different from this injection system and computer than the one on my fuel injected Yamaha ATV engine? It would seem that the ecu retune by Dean's or Riva would in conjunction with the ribbon delete,. would wake the engine up a bit because the reflash is where the added fuel comes from that richens up that new air from the ribbon being out
@@bobbyhorton4034 A tune will absolutely wake up the engine, and we highly recommend it. But without the ribbon, you don't get a lean condition because of the way the sensor works with the supercharged yamaha engine
So what are negatives/risks of removing the ribbon? Yamaha put it there for a reason, right?
Merci beaucoup ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
What's next, a blow off valve installation I hope :) ???
Performance results for this modification posted up at PWCExtreme.com: www.pwcextreme.com/t/yamaha-gp1800-build-series-by-pwcmuscle-com/296/12
Hello, great videos on the new models very well done! I have a Yamaha FX SHO from 2011 and I am changing the power filters to K&N and I can not find anywhere on the internet where you install the engine breather filter, can you help with a suggestion or a link to a pictographs?Once again, great videos, keep it up!
We don't have an FX SHO on hand to show you, but here is a Riva's instruction manual for how to install their part. Hope it helps! rivaracing.com/file/2049-RY13040+-+%6011%7E09+FX-SHO+%26+FZR-S+Performance+Power+Filter+Kit.pdf
@@Pwcmuscle , manual is no longer available.
I have a GP1800R svho 2020 if I do the ribbon delete will I need to get the ecu mapped to compensate for airflow been told yes and no ...so confused
Get a tune no matter what...it makes a huge huge difference on this ski.
No info on removing the damn fuel injector connectors!
When are you going to install a Yamaha SVHO engine coolant upgrade kit video
We won't be doing a coolant upgrade video as we've already installed it. Perhaps next year we will switch to a newer SVHO and show this.
Hey Mr PWC Muscle, Hows that Valve Retainer Video coming along?
The ribbon delete looks like a giant PIA
Am i crazy or did you put the billet sleeve in backwards? Definitely opposite of the paperwork i got with the sleeve
I think he did install it backwards. I'm pretty sure that the arrow is supposed to point TOWARDS the throttle body.
I installed the riva cold air intake, do you recommend using that smaller filter instead of putting back the hose to the intake ?
Hey Vic, not quite sure what you mean? The engine breather?
what about the same job in a 2018 gp? thats complete different job..
Hi
How disconnect the fuel rail ?
Hi mate I have a gp 1800r Yamaha 2019 how much for a cold air intake kit. And a breather filter kit. Where can I get there's items thanks Rosco.
Hey man, all your parts are on PWCMuscle.com!
can i delete the air intake all together and not put anything? i recently bought a used fzr and the owner had it without the air intake.
i bought a new 09 fzr and what i did was remove the entire air box and put a 90 degree rubber hose on the front of the supercharger and a small filter at the oil reservoir
What's the reason for the ribbon ? seems like it shouldn't even be there .. also by removing the air box is it easier to suck water in to motor now ?
The ribbon is there to help prevent a backfire from reaching open air. The air filter, supercharger, and intercooler will all do this as well. The air filter is mounted up high, so it'd be pretty hard to suck up water with it
You would have to have 20 in of water in the hull before that happens.
So backfires can now damage your machine doesnt sound good for long term use
Is this mod air intake, Ribbon delete etc legal? Not trying to be smart but don't know if the emission laws apply to watercraft. I would like to do most of these especially the water box delete... Thanks
The ribbon is not an emissions device, it is to prevent backfire from reaching the engine compartment. You still have the intercooler, supercharger and filter preventing this as well.
is it a same process for a 2018 gp ? I see some people requiring to drill it out..lil confused here. If its a pull and put I would like to do this mod. Thanks in advance!
They changed after 2017 to a different design. Now you have to drill
@@Pwcmuscle thanks for the quick reply. I appreciate it. Do you sell a filter that connects directly to the supercharger (like macboost) ?
@@evostigti Not currently but working on one as we speak!
While I know it would be minimal, do these Riva parts also contribute to any weight savings?
Yes, but as you mentioned minimal. Maybe 3lbs? Complete guess...the stock air box wasn't too heavy on these (compared to say SeaDoo)
What about exhaust? the stock exhaust looks pretty bulky. I would think between swapping air intake, exhaust, and switching to a lightweight battery there may be a decent drop in weight.
Stock exhaust sound suppression system has some heft to it. A free flow exhaust eliminates that.
@@matthewkylelewis How about losing some of your extra body fat? That drop in weight will be considered healthy for you and your ski.
How many hours did it take to preform the job approximately?
i just finished , DAMN that was 3 years!
Been riding Seadoo's and Yamaha for 20 plus fun years. Leave it factory, unless you have extra money to spend or you are a waverunner mechanic.
Extra money to spend to go faster.. precisely why we make these videos.
I have a 2019 fx svho and the manifold is like plastic, can I still do this
It is a different part, but yes!
do you sell it and whats the part number? do you have instructions on how to install@@Pwcmuscle
Hi i have a 2019 fx svho and im fitting the tial bov i want to tap the manifold instead of running from the map , whats the best way to do this and whereabouts on the manifold will be best placement for the tap
Do how well did this upgrade help you I have heard good things about removing the ribbon.
Worked well...check the numbers. Details posted here: www.pwcextreme.com/t/yamaha-gp1800-build-series-by-pwcmuscle-com/296/12
Would this ribbon delete work on the sx190 as well? Thanks
Which year? If it has the SVHO engine, it should. The question is whether it is a plastic or aluminum intake manifold.
@@Pwcmuscle 2016 plastic intake. I found that out yesterday having to take it all the way off just to get to a temp sensor. This video helped tremendously by the way! Haha! 👌🏽
@@juniemade9712 Plastic has a kit, just a little different, still available in the store.
Fyi the purpose the ribbon serves is as a spark arrestor.
Correct...but we find it redundant with the intercooler and supercharger, and an easy way to gain a boost in power.
@@Pwcmuscle 40 Riva ring < .59cent 1.5 pvc pipe section. But great video thanks.
How much %up gain with ribbon delete without vs with intake ?
Didn't test those back to back, but Riva claims as much as 1psi boost from removing it.
@@Pwcmuscle thanks looking forward to the results with tune, so my guess is that equates to 3-4 horsepower on top of the tune, ribbon delete?
@@Pwcmuscle or less, just want to know how much power I’m getting before I order, however small or great.
@@adventurer4188 Hard to say exactly, but if it is a 1psi increase it'd be closer to 10.
Any videos for vxr intake install?
Don’t spend money on vxr. If you speed get a super charger jet ski
@@puchy5389 dont listen to doucher here. I got a 2013 VXR cheap. Ribbon delete and cold air. I run neck and neck with a stage 2 RXPX260.
i would put some towels on the motor so nothing gets scratched up when using it as a table for the intake
What is the purpose of that OEM ribbon??
It is a major restriction to air flow
I understand it's a restriction but why did Yamaha put that there what is the original purpose
@@jarrettlabate5595 it is a flame arrestor
@@Pwcmuscle good point, bit more acceleration or more safety 🤔
hmmm cold air intake. but your putting it in a place that gives off heat!!! where you getting this so called cold air from!!??? too soon?
It's pulling air from the front compartment that also has air vents. For the record, we showed a measurable increase in performance with this kit.
Hi! can this mods be done on the yamaha boats. Example SX 192
Is Ron Jeramy your father? Lolololol
So have you blown yourself up yet from removing the ribbon
Nope. Flame would have to get past an intercooler AND turbocharger compressor to reach the air intake, and then the air filter is there to prevent it from reaching the hull. Still alive and well!
are you kidding me???? for get it !!!