Backpacking the 42 mile Black Forest Trail - Tiadaghton State Forest Pennsylvania
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- The black forest trail in central PA, offers several vistas, technical terrain and beautiful views and camp sites. Leave yourself enough time if you are trying to complete the entire 42 mile loop. Maps can be purchased from Pine Creek outfitters: www.pinecrk.com...
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I never watched this till now, man I laughed and went to a happy smile when you talked about the insane tough miles and how it was like AT thru hiker miles and how you didn't see how those guys did it.
And look at you now, man how far you've come and how much you've grown, I'm proud of you brother, very very proud and Soo very happy for you.
Haha it's pretty funny to go back to those videos and find gems like that
I enjoyed your video. I did the entire Black Forest Trail this past July. It was Awesome! We did it over 4 days though in the opposite direction. I have only been backpacking a couple years and have been told that I wont encounter anything tougher in PA. by my more experienced fellow hikers. I am 58 years old so felt pretty good about completing it.
I have been working on the PA A T as well, have about 100 miles left to do.
Happy Hiking, Trailpappy
awesome video- kinda funny, you mention wanting to inspire people and obviously the goal is to get people out there but there are also us viewers who are already inspired to go outside- but we got jobs and stuff, we cant go hiking every day- these videos fill the downtime and give us great tips, invaluable. How much do we like the outdoors? sometimes Roxana and I go for a day hike and then at night we watch hiking videos.. My Mom is almost 70, she cant hike like she used to- i got her a roku so she can watch you guys who make hiking videos, she was instantly hooked!! So you may not exactly inspire some of us to go out and hike, but you give us something incredible we really needed= You keep us out there, can't thank you enough for that.
potatothorn if I was rich and didn't had to work I would probably live in the woods 😀
We were the first family to hike the whole trail. We did it in 3 because we didn't know any better. I was 12. My mom bought us those crepe-soled boots from Sears in 1972. It was awesome as hell. I must do it again.
+Mary Rohlfing That's pretty epic! 12 years old holy crap
It is so crazy to see 52:38 now.
Another great video! Looking forward to watching the vlog from your next trip to this area as well
Parking lot off & near the trailhead...thats what I needed to hear.thanks a bunch dude...
Your videos get my so pumped to get outside. Awesome.
nice vid looked like a good trip! that dutch has some cool stuff he's a dream maker!
I just came across your channel while researching the Black Forest Trail, ended up watching a bunch more of your videos. Fast forward eight years and now you're a grown thru-hiker with a step-daughter! lol crazy.
No idea what's on your hiking horizon but if you drove all the way to the SPT in MN, you should definitely check out the La Cloche Silhouette Trail in Ontario. I think you'd love it.
Just finished this trail this weekend with 3 friends. Awesome trial and very challenging but worth it!
I live not too far from there in Tioga Forest. I love it. Never a lack of a place to walk. Rattlesnakes are usually not a big issues except on really hot days when they come out. That wasn't a rattler at the end of your hike. Most of the camps are privately owned on leased state land.
+Paula Martin Oh that's a shame, but yea looking at pics on google images it looks like a brown snake as someone mentioned to me later.
Love your dialogue and photography. In planning a hike you always need to factor in the elevation in addition to the mileage. It takes a couple weeks for the AT thru hikers to get their trail legs, but even then a 3000 Ft elevation gain is challenging for a lot of people. Try the Allegheny Front Trail east backpack loop in Moshannon State Forest, PA, it has less elevation and is an enjoyable hike with good views on the Allegheny front. Ben Cramer put out a trail guide. Happy trails!
Thanks for the video! I did this trail with a group of 10 or 12 when I was 15 in the late 90's. Definitely a rugged trail to say the least.... our map had a warning on it that said, "Not for beginners." We were all beginners but young. Plus we spread the trip out over 5 or 6 days.
It's definitely a rough trail if you're not a seasoned hiker. My friend did it after me and had a hard time as well
WOW....My favorite all time backpacking trail..BFT....I see you started clock wise.....That steep ass hill is a killer....and I did it the last time using the same pack....kool video..thx for sharing
Thank you for this awesome video
I'm doing this trail this weekend. SO STOKED!!!
I keep watching while I am on the stepper training.
You’ve definitely inspired me to get out and do some more hikes. Especially solo, which id never considered. I’ve even discovered liteAF thanks to you, and it happens to be 10 minutes from my house and I plan to get a pack there soon especially given their 6 month waiting list.
Cheers
Was searching around for bushcraft and found your videos. Keep it up! I wish I had the guts to go out in the woods like you for days by myself 👍
Welcome to the channel :)
Another great video Bud. Great thoughts-thanks for sharing them.
When hiking in snake country, I would always tap my trekking pole on the rocks as I went. At the same time, I would look around carefully.
Just went up to the BFT to scout it out for a future hike 2-3 weekends ago... We didn't do much milage for there was still a lot of ice on a lot of the trail, busted my ass a couple times lol!! Its good to see what I'm in for in a month or 2 when I go back up for the whole thing! That first accent is 1100 feet the from creek to summit going clockwise, beautiful but exhausting. Take care man!!
slate run - what a great trout stream, but then all of north central is trout country. Like the video - takes me back to when me & my wife used to backpack and fly fish.
Hi...this video popped up on my suggestions list...you have a new subscriber!
Great video. This was the toughest trail I have ever hiked. I Saw more Rattlesnakes and I lost more toenails on this trail than on any other EVER. Going to attempt it again Memorial day weekend this year.
the sintax77 trailkilla stalker. haha
I am sure they are flattered that the inspire some of your outings and gear choices.
looked like trailkilla 's firewood was still there.
Haha I didn't even know even know Mike (trailkilla) did the BFT lol. In my defense I had this trip planned for 2 weeks I swear! Sintax got me into hammock camping so a lot of the thought behind it is the same. I'll have to check out Mikes video though to see if I stayed anywhere near his camps.
Outdoor Adventures I love how your level of sanity was plummiting as the day went along.
This channel is awesome! Im going to do your setup, you seem really experienced and have inspired me to get out of city life.
+TheRandomMan210 Awesome, glad I could be an inspiration, but make sure you do what works for you.
your editing gets better and better each video bro. Much respect on that.... I have tried to do my own videos and they aren't nearly as easy to do as you and some others make it look... This looks like an awesome place and I will have to add it to my list of destinations now... Thanks Bro...
Matt Foulk Thanks dude, I'm learning as I go just takes practice and google searches when I get an idea for something but can't figure out how to do it.
Hey, it's Frozen!! watched you on AT and we are thinking of doing BFT in September so we just looked it up.👍
Ooooold frozen or very young Frozen! Have fun!
The Black Forest Trail is my favorite backpacking trail and I have been on it for quite a few trips. (We stayed at the nice campsite with all the pine trees last June.) Jason, congratulations on doing the entire trail in just 3 days! That was serious mileage on your second day (and third day). You must have very good knees and feet to take that kind of distance. I've seen rattlesnakes on about half of my trips. Not certain if the snake you saw was a rattlesnake though. P.S. -The West Rim Trail is very good also and easier and I have never seen a rattlesnake along that trail, though you could.
Just started watching your videos. Thanks for sharing! Looks like you live in or near Pa. My buddy and I are coming from canton oh (3 hr drive) headed to hickory creek wilderness trail next weekend. Be cool to hit the trail with ya sometime. We're excited to try out some of our diy hammock gear. Take care and happy hiking!
At 35:09 I was like dude, you need to stop! I was worried for you. Great vid, thanks for showing the trail, I have family in Williamsport so this trail is on my list.
+Tim Watson It was just me being tired. I like to plan out the campsites because I sleep very well next to a creek. The sound of the water puts me in a deep sleep.
Nice vid man. We have tones of rattlers in the south and that was a timber rattler
37:24 Your state of mind at this point resembles what my hiking buddy and I on the A.T. called GDD: General Difficulty Disorder. "Q: What's wrong?" "A: General difficulties."
Yea man pretty much
3 minutes into the video And I already know I'll watch the whole video. Awesome channel man one thing I would humbly advise is that on your first night your camp site was in disarray when you arrived, the fire pit rocks where all over the place that is a sign of the river overflowing . Just watch out when camping close to water, careful when storms aproach. A very bad accident happened in ouchita natl. Forest some years back. The river grew 23 ft in 2 hours and killed a lot of people.
+Js Dubon thanks! This was an old one but a good one. If I remember right that stream was just a small trickle but I can imagine it flooding with enough snow melt.
Great tip! Will definitely remember this in the future. Thank you :)
Great Video really enjoyed it
Not sure how I haven't seen your channel before, but glad I did definitely gonna sub! Now time too watch some more of your videos haha.
Welcome to the channnel :)
Great video! Watch out for the snakes!
Great vid!!
You've definitely inspired me!
+Dennis Lopez glad to hear that! That's what this channel is all about
Your comments at 52:45 are funny watching in 2021.
LOL that is great! Good find thanks!
morning mate. thanks for sharing your walks. here are two others u may like. outdoor enthusiast 101. he's good he go's out walking the hills. an Donny outdoor s. both are good ta see. thankful once again. take care mate.
+Andy Buckley Thanks dude
Great video, the best one of the Black Forest I have seen so far. Me and a friend will be taking this hike in September we are planning on a 4 day trip. Doing it in 3 days looks exhausting.
Its not the black forest, its just called the black forest trail.
I love your videos...great job your doing filming....BTW....I crossed path with you on this trip when I was going down hill on mile #6 heading towards camp at mile #7...I had the same pack you did...Keep up the good work....An yes...the steep climb at mile #41 is a killer....that's why I go counter clock wise...
Haha I remember you!
Outdoor Adventures Did you ever get the map off my car...If not I can mail you it along with West Rim trail...Also well detailed. ??
+pallbearers1969 nah I forgot what parking lot you told me it was in. Don't worry about it. Me and a friend did the west trim trail (man what a great place) and saw 4 rattlesnakes and a bear and 2 cubs the first day. Was amazing. I'm venturing to the white mountains this year. And then have a few trips to North Carolina and virginia
Cool...Doing BFT this Memorial weekend.... Smokey mountains in August...And the 100 mile wilderness next year
Nice, I'm going on a ton of trips this year, really excited about it. Maybe I'll see ya out there on one of them.
your welcome buddy .
@26:13 is the camping spot that trailkilla stayed at ha
56:16 ... Have you tried the AllTrails app? I don't hike like you do ... But it's done well for me. I was also curious if you could demo your video gear/software ... Really great work ...
I actually have a video on this already: czcams.com/video/DoFRhNnO_UI/video.html
I have the alltrails app but never actually used it to plan anything big.
Anyone got gps coords for the campsite at 51:51 ? I know it's close to Slate Run going counter clockwise, but trying to get a better gauge on mileage. Thanks
Navel Run Trail is amazing! I really want to venture into Black Forest area.. I hike solo most times... any tips?
I'm new to backpacking and can use some hints as to how and where to get the right maps. In this video you had a map in waterproof bag that is just the size I am looking for. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. thanks for the insight.
+Dennis Calhoun All i do is type the trail name into google and it's usually on google images. Or just a simply google search and print it out. I trim my maps down to fit into a gallon freezer bag to make them water/sweat proof pahikes.com/trails/black-forest-trail
+Outdoor Adventures Thanks for the tip. Happy trails.
Im looking for a trip to do in May and this trail is on my list of possibilities. I couldn't help but notice what you said at 52:44 about the AT hikers. You certainly are that type of thru hiker now! Do you think this trail would lower in difficulty if I split the milage over 4 days instead of 3? I am not as experienced as you are and haven't been backpacking since last spring, but I think something like 7 miles, 14, 14, and 7 could be doable. I guess my main question is how difficult is the terrain/elevation compared to places in western PA like Raccoon Creek and Allegheny Nat'l Forest?
I'd say this is a pretty tough one compared to Raccoon where I frequent a lot. This has a lot of elevation gain and many stream crossing. As long you are prepared you will be fine over 4 days.
Good place to get a great trail guide and map for this trail,west rim trail and the Susquehanna trail....google Pine creek outfitters Ansonia,PA...also get the books...short hikes in Gods country and Short hikes in PA's Grand canyon...
love your channel man. when's the next big video?:)
+carmine as soon as time frees up. Probably a couple weeks out still though.
Great video and Channel. Hiked the BFT 2 years ago and did it in 2.5 days also. Going again the first weekend in June this year and I will be filming this time. I am taking the Father-in-law (his first big hike) and the plan is to do it 3.5 days. I sent him this video so he gets an idea of what he is getting himself into. Check out he BigfootFarmer channel. I haven't been able to film lately but will be picking back up. I am in the Lancaster/Lebanon, PA area. Hope you have a great hiking season!
Really enjoyed your Black Forest Trail video, thanks for sharing it. I am assuming it is located in Pennsylvania?
Michael Sikora Yes PA, a few hours east/northeast of Pittsburgh.
hi appreciate all the videos you upload, it´s always fun to watch them! What camera and accessories to the camera do you have when you´re out in the trail? =)
badlakan Thanks, glad you are enjoying the videos. I use a weatherproof nikon aw110 (the 130 is out now) a monopod, and a gorillapod.
I'm sure you have it listed somewhere but I didn't see it, but what tarp are you using?
Thanks.
Yeah man, you had it all on this one! Mountains, streams, pine forests, creek bottoms and everything in between! I can't believe the mileage you put in either. Well done. Question. How far would this trail be from Pittsburgh? Anyway, thanks for bringing us along on this epic trek. Peace brother.
WoodsTrekka' Thanks dude. It's about 4 hours NE from Pittsburgh
Thanks for the info, that means about 5 and a half from Wheeling. Much appreciated!
Thanks for your uploads. You have an interesting approach to your backpacking and hiking videos. You supply a another inspiring trek for people exercising on treadmills. What video camera are you using and how do you hold it in such a steady position as you hike?
+Ken H. It's a Nikon Aw110 just a standard weather proof point and shoot camera. It has a pretty good image stabilizer in it.
Love your videos. Have you ever done the West Rim Trail?
+Bobby Loesch Nope I have it on my list of things to do this year though. My buddy Gary just got back from it though and had a lot of fun.
I've been watching a lot of your videos the past few days and I love them!! Just wondering, did you find any cell coverage on this trail, just for emergencies?
It was spotty most of the time but on top of the hills I was usually able to have a signal on verizon.
I'm actually going to be doing Black Forest Labor Day weekend and this will be my first time doing a three day hike. I was nervous about water but I saw you getting some from the stream, did you simply use water purifiers to ensure it was ok to drink?
Sawyer squeeze filter works great. You should definitely pick something up before you go.
+Outdoor Adventures thanks a lot! I did have those in my Amazon cart but was still worried about whether or not the water was still ok to drink from even with the filter. Thanks again!
+MrJortiz215 check out my water treatment video it will answer a lot of your questions if you're interested
Hey, thanks for posting this. I just got into backpacking and I'm going up to Black Forest next month and your video reassured my choice in trail. Also, do you happen to know where that last camp site where you mentioned watching the sunrise was?
JacobGust If you go counter clockwise along the trail it should be about 2-3 miles away from the Inn. toward the top of the first hill. You can't miss it as it is right alongside the trail. Good luck man that trail is rough.
My biggest concern with hiking and camping is the bugs! what do you use to curb all the bugs especially in the summer? Do you carry a firearm with you?
charger7022 If you get a product called permethrin and spray your clothes, any flying insects that land on your clothes will fall off/die in a few seconds. Other than that bugs really don't bother me much. OFF! brand works fairly well on skin. I don't carry a firearm yet, still looking for the right one. I do carry bear spray when I am alone, although I don't think it's necessary. But if I meet some crazy people that are looking for trouble, they'd get sprayed.
yeah that's what I use in hunting season to keep the ticks off. just never really spent much time in the woods in the summer heat. I just picked up some Repel 100 that's 98% deet so we will see how that works. Working on plan a small canoe trip and camping for a few days up near Tionesta. I never go into the woods unarmed lol maybe im a lil paranoid lol I carry a glock 19 and just recently picked up the glock 43 which is a lil smaller and easier to carry.
Watched this one several times-- thanks for sharing.. Was wondering though, when it's dark and rainy at dinner time (like on this vid) do you eat dinner at camp? And also, did you still hang a bear bag? Btw- id buy your intro song on CD if you had it available.. Really like your music that your vids have.
+stowe18 I always hang a food bag. I usually do not eat at camp but every once in a while I really have no choice, like in the rain when I am dry, when I do eat at camp I am extremely careful about smellsz and not spelling food on myself. I then pack my gar age out and hang my food. I recommend you do not eat at camp though. A 100 feet or more away from camp is best.
is this the forrest of blair witch projekt ? can u go there next time, i want to see it real :D pretty great video ! like and sub !
great video if you don't mind me asking where are you from? im near scranton pa looking for somewhere in my area to hike some nice trails any ideas my friend???
I'm from west of Pittsburgh. Check out the West Rim trail, about 32 miles, not very hard, great views and very close to black forest trail.
ok thank you ill look it up now i don't know anywhere near me to hike...thank you
hiking this Friday and Saturday...
Doing the whole loop?
44 to The campsite above Slate Run. It should be about 12 ish miles. First outing was last weekend and it was 25 degrees. this Friday is about double that. I'm hooked
Awesome! Have fun!
I'm hoping so...gotta watch for sticks that buzz...
+zr2trackerjoe you shouldn't have problems this early in the year. They come out around June and July. Still be careful obviously.
You look so young dude.
Hey dude, I am going to be doing this hike about a week from now. I ordered the map and guide from the Tiadaghton Forest Fire Fighters Association, and I'm hoping that Im not going to receive the same out-dated map you were referring to. Where did you get your map?
+Rick Barnwell Hey Rick, I can't even find the source of where I got mine from, I printed it off someones blog. The guy I meant on the trail when I was travelling uphill on the last day said my map looked terrible and he got his from the same place as you so I'm sure you will be fine. Watch out for bears this time of years man. Snakes shouldn't be too bad it's getting a bit too cold for them. Let me know how it goes!
Which way did you go? I plan on doing the BFT next week. I'm thinking clockwise. Going in at Slate Run.
+m l I went clockwise myself. I did this trip quite a while ago and can't remember a the details. It's a great trail. Shouldn't have to worry about snakes this time of year either.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME TAG ALONG WITH YOU ON YOUR TRIPS! BE SAFE! HAVE FUN! SMILE! GOD BLESS YOU ALWAYS!
DO YOU WEAR CONVERTIBLE PANTS & WHAT KIND DO YOU LIKE , FIT COMFORTABLE, ?
+David Stillman try the Columbia Silver Ridge convertible pants.
Thanks for your videos bud. I am planning on doing this trail in the future. What is your best suggest for time. You mentioned bears in one of your responses. Is there a good time to avoid bears and still avoid large number of snakes. I am planning a trip to West rim trail too. Please advise. I trust you.
+Ben G. Don't worry too much about bears, in 2 years of hiking at least once a month, I've only seen 1 bear and that was in the Smokies, which is 1 of the most populated bear areas in the US. Just practice eating away from camp and hanging your food bag. Also I'd say April or May before it gets too hot, the elevation here is killer, don't underestimate it. Allow yourself 3 full days just in case.
+Outdoor Adventures thanks for your quick response. Appreciate your help.
Is this around grand junction CO
Tanner Solomon Sorry I should have put what state I was in. This is Pennsylvania about 4 hours east of Pittsburgh
Do you recommend doing this trail as a newbie?
I do not. It's a little challenging. But I suggest making shorter loops out of it.
What kind of bladder and magnetic holder you used in this video? Thanks.
Zach Tan It's an osprey hydraulics 2.5L
hey what was the digital thermometer you use? I can't find one online like the one you mention. any more details you can share?
+Joseph Toth Sure Joe, It's an AcuRite 00318 Suction cup thermometer: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004V1XJG6?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00
It's fairly accurate as long as you don't give it direct sunlight. I've had some pretty off the chart numbers like 108 degrees on 70 degree days. But it gets the job done if you keep it from direct sunlight, I think the plastic casing messes it up.
If you had to split it up would you recommend the north loop or south? Thx
+preputnick North loop for a relaxing time and some good views. South loops for Vistas and scenery changed. Some of the south loops is some dirt road walking too. The north loop has one huge uphill on a very rocky section so keep that in mind as well.
Outdoor Adventures North loop completed. Thanks for the info. Definitely going to try the whole loop soon.
Awesome job!
Badass solo hiker. Like i said b4 . that place is on the hitlist ... But ill need 5 days and be doing in off season for snakes lol . rather dye from a heart attack due to exhaustion rather than being freaked da f@$! Out from a rattler😰!!
Hey great video. What would you say is the top pros and cons from traditional tent backpacking to a hammock for backpacking? i just cant get a good nights sleep on a sleeping pad in a tent and i also have back pain after hiking for a full day so i decided to look into hammock backpacking. thanks
Len Dizzle This would actually be a good topic for a video in the near future. I'm the same as you, I have a hard time getting a good sleep on the ground, my lower back is curved a lot more than average so when I lay flat on anything but a bed my back wants to arch up forcing me to lay on my side. In a hammock that arch is nonexistent due to the slight curvature of the hammock.
With a hammock you can setup virtually anywhere that there are trees, and in the rare cases you cannot find trees, you can set it up it up on the ground with trekking poles (provided you have insulation under you or it's warm enough to not have to use a pad) like a tent. The only cons for using a hammock is at first it is a learning experience, do as much research as you can and practice setting up using trees of different sizes and distance apart. Remember you will still need insulation under you due to conduction. You can start out using your existing sleeping bad and then once you know you like it, look in to getting an underquilt and top quilt. I also highly recommend you check out this playlist (czcams.com/play/PLB8752777861C2AA8.html) by Shug Emery he's a nut but he can build the foundation for a great hammock experience.
Good luck with finding what works for you, and let me know if you have any questions I can answer.
Outdoor Adventures Well just to follow up on my last message i just purchased the warbonnet black bird. i did put a order in for the dream hammock darien but then i canceled it once i realized the lead time was about 9 weeks lol. is there anything you recommend purchasing for the hammock that doesnt come with it? for example should i get wasps? what do you recommend?
You'll love the blackbird, you've made a great choice.
Did you get a Warbonnet tarp as well? Me personally I now using whoopie slings, 4 hookworms (similar to the tarp worms but they have hooks on the top so you can remove them if they are wet) and 2 wasps. 8 foot of red zing it for the top of the tarp to connect to the trees, and 4 6' yellow zing it lines for the tent stakes. (dutchwaregear.com)
Let me know if you have any questions about anything. I'm heading out for the night now, but I'll hit you back tomorrow morning.
Outdoor Adventures yes i got the warbonnet edge tarp and sorry to bug you with questions again. but would u say the stuff you mentioned from dutchware is fit for a noob? since this is my first hammock?
yes it actually makes everything easier to set up.
by the way that was a garder snake
Would you recommend this trail clockwise or counter clockwise?
Definitely counter clockwise
Okay, so I'm guessing by the part around 27:00 that you hiked it clockwise.. I'll definitely keep that in mind while on the BFT.
I am not so sure the 90 degree thing with the ridgeline is even a factor worth checking. To meet that "test" I usually end up increasing the suspension angles to nearly 40 degrees, not for comfort...but just to satisfy the ridgeline test. If you are around 30 degrees, no matter how far off the ground and/or how far apart the trees might be...no ridgeline tweaking is needed. Its a high tech red herring IMHO and am not sure if it should be taught to future generations...
I am just going by what Derek Henson (The Ultimate Hang book), Warbonnet Outdoors (maker of the hammock I am using in this video), and Dutchwaregear have said about getting a good lay. I find it works very well at least for me to determine if I'm at the right angle and adjustment.
Fair enough. To each his own. Happy hiking!
That will absolutely clear your head. Great video my friend! I'm digging your channel as well.
Check out my videos if you like, I have some fun backpacking trips from Florida, North Carolina, Utah, Colorado, California and Oregon.
-Andy
I survived the Goat trail. Haha
Tie ah dot ton I'm a local
+Spark Jumper thank you been wondering how it was pronounced
What a selfie indulgence. Suggest turning the camera around and showing the great scenery.
+Jay Robb It's hard to mix filming the person talking with the scenery if you do one more than the other the video is boring.
I'm the opposite. I enjoy looking at the person while they are talking. Can't please everyone ;p