Austin Carlile Blames Cancel Culture In Response To Allegations
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- čas přidán 12. 06. 2024
- Former Of Mice & Men frontman Austin Carlile has responded to the allegations made against him, comparing the claims to cancel culture.
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Personally I don’t think Alt Press should be the ones doing this investigation.
i agree. this is a bit more serious than something i trust them to handle. they canceled the shit once. i mean....
Exactly, cause altpress can say whatever they want, they can't investigate within the reaches of the law, if these allegations are gonna come out the women need to go to the proper authorities.
Alt press is the one who covered up the first allegations 7 yrs ago
Yeah even if Austin is completely guilty. They should leave it to the victims and also the guilty person.
Give the man the benefit of the doubt, but investigate the claims. These women deserve to be heard but always remember, innocent till proven guilty.
Welcome to 2021, where we're now guilty until proven otherwise.
It’s such a tough balancing act, I served with a guy whom was accused of abuse while we were away on training. I was personally with this dude and we were in an entirely different state which thankfully he could prove but his ex wanted to do everything she could to attack his life. I always try to listen to all sides carefully and fully because there’s three sides to the story. His side, her side, and the truth. Just my personal opinion either way I hope justice is served fully for whichever side was wronged.
I always say there’s 3 sides to a story!! His, hers and the truth!!
Last year: words are violence
This year: silence is violence
And I used to think violence was violence
There is no winning. Humans suck.
Words of violence, break the silence
Stimulus check wasn't enough.
You ain’t lying especially when people on unemployment gets paid more than you
I commented this in the last video but it's so hard to believe who is telling the whole truth, victims words can easily be twisted in their favor or be blown up in proportion to what actually happened and rock stars can get away with a lot with the right legal team behind them. It also depends if the victims were of age, intoxicated (if he was intoxicated), or they were the ones who wanted to have some sexy fun time but then later spun it off as if he was the one who did. It sounds fishy for sure but Altpress has stated in their apology that they didn't publish it cause they couldn't prove the whole truth. Yes they can get in legal trouble for posting the truth but they can get in even more trouble for posting something that's not entirely true.
I completely agree. It is INCREDIBLY hard to tell who's telling the truth.
@@InkAndPoet 26 women, all in the same (then minor, or barley) age category.
To me it kinda looks like another version of Weinstein. People in his position have so much power. The women making these allegations fully understand that if this ever goes to court they'll be attacked & harassed by people. Then they'll go to court and testify, most likely re-traumatising them. So when the victims get threatened, they have a very justified reason to no longer serve as source.
Even though the trauma I have is in no shape or form caused by sexual violence. I can tell you this: it's been nearly 4 years since the incident. I have had trauma therapy etc. But when I talk about certain aspects of what happened, or I am in a position where I need to explain my trauma trigger. I do get frustrated and angry. The person that's responsible for the harm done to me, fails to take responsibility, the laws are so twisted that she doesn't even have to take any responsibility. I often feel like what happened is being twisted by the counter party. People think that I need to get over it, called me weak.
I pressed charges, I know what I signed up for. If my case finds its way to criminal court that means that it has happened again. I know I'll feel guilty, angry etc. I'd have to explain the emotional & bodily damage it's done, how it still effect me to this day. I'll have to decide if it's worth telling how dark things truly got after the incident, hurting and scaring the shit out of people I love. Do I try to keep my ex out of a crossfire and take an emotional beating myself, or will I let her take an emotional beating?
Yeah. They need to investigate Dahvie Vanity first
We'll all find out the truth eventually and maybe soon
This is why we have a court system. Any opinions outside of that system are, in fact, a form of "cancel culture."
Metal doesn't care about opinions anyway.
the biggest question is why they're speaking out now when Austin is no longer in the music scene and going through his Christian phase.
Maybe because the world is desperate to attack anything that is pro-Jesus. The world has no desire to submit to Jesus - it would rather live in selfish ignorance. Therefore, the world will often reject (and mock/lambaste) any notion of the Truth.
2 Corinthians 4:4
John 15:18
1 John 2:15-16
Romans 8:7
Matthew 5: 11-12
Etc
i know this comment is two years old but i’m still gonna reply, i mean as someone whose been SA’d sometimes it takes a while to process what happened to you, and even longer to accept it and want to speak about it.
I give him the benefit of a doubt, but the women also need to be heard.
I remember meeting them at 14. I was sobbing because they were the band that saved my life. They especially helped me with getting through bullying and abusive relationships. It really broke me leaving that signing that day because I told Austin and Aaron that they saved my life but not one of them looked up and acknowledged what I said. The only band members that heard me was Alan and Valentino. They were very nice and did say you’re welcome back to me and told me they loved my shirt. Valentino gave me a fist bump too which made the experience a lot better. It hurt me a lot to see Austin not even look at me or say anything, especially after what I said. Just a simple you’re welcome would’ve been enough but he was so in his ego that he could’ve cared less.
I think that his comments are more accurate than yours.
Its not really cancel culture when these allegations span to over 10 years from his old band mates to fans who have met him to another pastor saying his wife is also a victim from Austin. I wanted to be biased too..but.. If you having a track record of people saying you prey on underage girls and women in general, there's something to look at here. I wanted to be biased myself, but even OM&M never bothered to talk to him again after 2016. Never posted about him or said anything about him since and you'd think they were close enough to where they'd publicly talk about him. 2 bands hes been in want nothing to do with him..and at some point people have to see it as Austins fault. I feel like his whole Christianity thing is him hiding and trying to have something to cover himself for when all of this did come back up.
Austin was just hoping he'd never have to answer for anything.
Where did you hear about the pastor or his old band mates saying he was a predator? Link?
@Luke You'd think tons of other bands would be taking up for him right now or vouching for him, but I have yet to see any band member from other bands go to his defense. Even OM&M never bothered to say anything besides the 3 sentences where they said the condemn sexual violence and said they didn't know. Their response and how they haven't brought him up in years is pretty telling. Austin was the front man and they essentially just treated him like he didn't exist and there's a reason for that.
@Andy Salter i completely agree, all we can do is wait and see.
@@AssassinKillua15 Yeah, can you please share your source on the thing about the pastor and his old band mates condemning him? I can't find that, but I'd like to know if it's legit.
@@AssassinKillua15 The last thing i would expect is for other bands and band mates to vouch for him simply because Austin has been out of the game for about 4 years. I understand OM&M's position because its not healthy for the band to get that kind of exposure and they would've for sure confirmed the allegations in case they were true. And about him "marrying one of his victims"..... come on. I saw that as well and it was a comment some random person made somewhere else. There is no source for that.
I mean he was kicked out of aa for molesting his fans 🙄
He was pretty handsome though some several yrs ago. Like handsome & nice guy vibes. But 🤷🏻♀️ Idk how girlies end up in this situation. Well, I can guess. But still, prob not go to a situation?! But idk him either so I'm not invalidating anything. Also, 🙄 Gonna go look that up then, if that's true. Bc 😒 how r they not at least 21 in aa
It's a shame that people are looking down on Austin and judging him on something that has no evidence towards it. The past is the past. You can't judge how someone is currently as a person for something that may or may not have happened years ago.
I would agree with this for less serious allegations and offenses, such as offensive jokes or saying the n word because i believe in development of character, but I don’t think this holds true for this situation. No matter how recent, sexual assault and rape should always be looked down on and always taken seriously. There should be no point in your life where you believe that is okay.
To all the people in the comments saying “i never knew, he’s such a nice guy” and “innocent until proven guilty” this is all existing public knowledge and has been since 2010. It took a viral thread on reddit for people to start taking it seriously. Look into it, you’ll find the answers were there the entire time, from ex bandmates to ex wives and her friends it’s all there, just nobody cared to notice or look.
I get your point but not everyone actively looks into the „private life“ of musicians. I personally don’t listen to them a lot and didn’t know anything about all of this
EJT0002 10 women is jumping to conclusions? Maybe 1, maybe 2, maybe even 4? But 10??? I don’t think so...
@@WhiteLiteBarbie no there haven't his ex wive cheated on him dumbass h i.h s ex band mates from Attack Attack are the only ones who ever talked shit about him not Of mice & men except when Jerry Roash was in the band
Ah yes, who needs court, tangible evidence and any other forms of legal due process we have reddit!
I think the most important thing to determine if the allegations are true is to see if there is any sort of motive to falsely defame him. People don’t get false accusations for no reason. Only time will tell
Why does this guy looks like hes 70?
People age man.
Hard living. Read his story
He has & suffers from Marfan Syndrome. I watched a IG live of him laying in a hospital bed & all hooked up a couple years ago. He had to get surgery and caused him great pain. He can’t scream/shout nor really even sing anymore since it’s too much strain on his body. He was performing instrumentally on a piano before a crowd the last time i saw on his IG live stream.
If they can't present actual evidence, its not worth ruining his life. MeToo has been abused too much for me to blindly believe it anymore.
Previous tour managers and band mates have backed these claims against Austin and I haven’t seen a single person in the industry that’s worked with him come to his defense. There is a reason why both Attack Attack and Of Mice & Men have wanted nothing to do with him. There is much more than these girls’ word that shows what Austin did.
At what point in that statement did he say they were clout chasing And I believe the reason he referred to cancel culture is essentially his name is mud
Just need to reserve judgement till all the facts come out, too many times do ppl rush to judge in the MeToo era. All sides need to be heard in a sincere level.
I think that the comparison between "cancel culture" and this situation is because he thinks that with him simply being accused, it is enough for the fan base to flip on the band and ruin their careers.
He accused the band of sensoring him
i'm a little late to the party but the most damning evidence against carlile in this situation is that the statement Attack Attack put out in 2010 mentioned he would "sleep with anyone who crossed his path" as well as Caleb Shomo, his former band mate, siding with the women here. It's a hard situation.
Please don't be embarrassed to wear a mask in public. Some wear Five Finger Death Punch shirts. 😂
"I'm not a rapist. I'm friends people who have been raped. How could I be a rapist" 🙃
Well said!
Has anyone noticed how all of a sudden people are NOW starting to accuse all of these artists?
What if people that are against the bands are starting to group up and make accusations to destroy the bands? Things like this have happened before and could be happening to these bands now, we don't know yet.
Maybe it's from people actually speaking up for themselves? Don't wait to speak up people, speak up as soon as it happens. Defend yourself, don't give in as soon as it happens, fight back.
But people, get your facts right before you jump on board and agree with anything, some people lie for attention or pity, some may tell the truth, but check all the facts with an open mind.
Any updates on this?
As a lad who proved somebody wrong that I was a bad person in a relationship that hurt my mental health (Now me and that person are decent lads with different partners) I am tapping my foot pondering why of all press companies it's Alternative Press
The entire issue here and why I personally can't take it seriously the "press" is doing an investigation as if that counts for anything in this day and age
Being accused? Just bring up God and babies.
The thing is, it wasn't just the 10+ random women that spoke up about him, it was also his ex band mates & the wives of other ex band mates that all spoke up simultaneously...
There's too many voices all speaking about the same thing for it to be untrue and all those voices are people that are either claiming to be victims or who were super close to him...
I feel like he really just used his wife, childred, religious beliefs & "I'm not that person anymore" to get out of it and that's insane...
I used to be a huge Of Mice & Men fan until this week when I decided for the first time to actually dig into what the victims were saying. I hate cancel culture and I would never participate in it usually, but it's so much more when it's not just these random women claiming to be victims, but it's his old bandmates and their wives...
Even now I feel like I'm on the edge about posting this, on one hand I idolised the guy and even learned most of the early OM&M songs on guitar over the years, but there's so many voices saying the exact same thing and his response was pathetic...
As Bill Maher states; You don't have to believe all women, but take all accusations seriously.
I can't speak for everyone, but when I state it, it applies.
Doesn't "believe all women" basically mean just what you said? I'm sure some people have used it as "believe whoever is accused by a women to be guilty on the spot" but that seems like a rare case..
I was not a perfect person, I smoke marijuana daily. 🤣🤣🤣 That part killed me
Well smoking marijuana every day of your life is already not good for you, it's supposed to be a relaxation method and mixing it with alcohol and pills can destroy your brain and entire body.
What I never get about cases like is, the the people accused, why do they never counter sue the accusers. I’m not attacking the “victims” but if what Austin says is true, he should sue for defamation. I don’t think it’s fair for people to accuse others and completely destroy their livelihoods based on assumingely “false allegations”. If it’s true, then yeah by all means sue and get some sort legal justice
okay but some of this stuff is years and YEARS old. you’re telling me everybody was lying back then too? riiight austin.
1:26 said the guy who blacks out every time he drinks ....
10 groupies who were one night stands and never got to be the girlfriend. And are still bitter about it. Lol
You mean 20 underage girls? You mean they’re upset about being r*ped and emotionally abused by him. I’d imagine they have ever right now to be bitter about it.
Innocent until proven guilty, but you should listen to women who come forward, false allegations do happen though its fact. Just know there are nasty people in this world, and someone here has been wrongdoing so whatever the truth is let justice come down on the guilty party, whether thats Austin or the women
Who else thought TNA's cancel culture
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Take the women seriously, but not the “investigative journalist”. Those don’t exist.
If you know anything about touring even if you never were a roadie, or helped with set up and tear down. You know how many witness there are, and if none of the stories line up after this much time reasonable deduction.(whatever remains however improbable must be the truth) The more a man does for God or to better himself the more people will tear him down. Even if it has nothing to do with God if you are surpassing those around you and show more follow through especially in sever pain than an able bodied person. People dont like that and will do anything to make you look worse than them(same reason plastic girls/guys keep a ugly friend they ignore around)in order to feel better or get attention because they are garbage and so to them they feel better by trying to put people beneath them because they are too weak to rise above and it's easier to tear another person down than it is to build yourself up. Ridiculous ....
I don't know who to defend here. What kind of obvious rape claim against a celebrity is THIS? ⫻⫷
I feel like these are coming out as a trend cause of what the world is right now. Wethet it happened or not, it should’ve came out way sooner
Agreed
Don't know who to believe (no one does, yet anyway), but the alternative press's behavior does seem a little sus.
Justin Bieber!! I dont know what to say after that..
y’all in the comments do realize only 2% of SA accusations are false right? because a lot of you seem to forget. your favorite musician is a pos, accept it and move on
Nope, it's 2%-8% .
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Rockfeed JayGod are 110% related
No idea what cancel culture is and while i do take the allegations against him seriously i also know some people like to lie and ruin careers. That said however there are times when its 100% true to i just hope there are actual facts so if it isnt true his career isnt ruined because of a lie.
Side note any guy who rapes or beats a child or a women for real is a coward and not a man at all as far as im concerened
Cancel culture is when people basically online shame. This is due to A. Having an opinion that is considered controversial or just wrong or B. They did something in the past that was/is considered offensive and people decide to online shame about. Basically, they boycott a celebrity for ether of those reasons.
I have no idea though, how that has to do with the allegations, because in a way, that doesn’t help their case, really. Like, the only thing he had an opinion about was Christianity, like he started believing in it again, but even then, would people really be hating on him for that?
So, with that in mind, it could be a possibility that he did do it, but I am, however, shocked about it, because he doesn’t really seem like the type of person to do that, you know? Ever way, it’s a possibility, but I really don’t know if he did or didn’t. It’s definitely not okay, though to be doing that kind of stuff to woman and children.
I know this reply was kinda long, but I just kinda wanted to tell you what that was, I guess.
thats the thing though, they were taken seriously, at first, and the claims were not found to be substantial. so yeah, so far, until actual proof comes out, hes right and they shouldnt be taken seriously anymore, or at least until they can come up with something batter to back their claims. until then, they are just like that girl who accused Enzo Amore, turned out she made it all up and tried to get her friends to help with the lie.
Ridiculous comparison. Austin is on another level.
All of the allegations against Austin is definitely old ass news. Nobody is “just now coming out about this” they have been out about it, but have been swept under the rug. I’m surprised nobody has mentioned the statement Attack Attack! made regarding Austin, and there’s also a video of him mocking a disabled person.
If they can do the same thing to Brett Kavanaugh, I would qualify this is as a part of cancel culture. If there was even remotely enough of a case, they wouldn’t have dropped the allegations. People have been hanged in the public square for far less. This is the culture that we live in, especially if you’re a Christian.
At this point, it is all a mess. I don't know if Austin is guilty or not. But maybe I'm just biased because I enjoy his music and would *otherwise* (if there were no allegations and he was completely clean) respect him. Either way, I hope they really take this seriously and talk to the victim and the "predator" with lie detectors involved. And also, *INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY*
Back in the day there was a tumblr page dedicated to people airing out his dirty laundry including band members girlfriends saying how awful of a person he was (back then) and spoke of how he slept with anyone who crossed his path. if I remember correctly there was a website similar to the dirty where it exposed band members and the person posted pics of Austin allegedly cheating on his then wife (who was preggo)while on tour. Even with all that, people have a right to defend themselves be it in the public or in court. I’m not saying he did it, but the allegations are serious. I actually met austin and went on their bus in my city after the show to do freelance work and he was VERY respectful to me and super polite(im a woman lol). I was also like 23 at the time and bcus of the job I had I had been around celebs/bands so I acted normal and not like an overly excited teen fan if you will. But when I say, the tour bus was a PARTY on a wed night…it was! Everyday is a friday when you’re on tour and GROUPIES GALORE!!
I am not jumping on board with this without proof or evidence. I hate how people destroying people’s lives without evidence but if he is guilty he deserves to go to jail.
I can’t say I 100% know the truth, but Austin’s case doesn’t look too good. A former tour manager of his, ex-band mates from Of Mice & Men and Attack Attack, his ex-wife, and more than 20 girls with their own stories are against him.
NightwingX012 just because they are a lot of stories doesn’t mean they are true
Innocent until anyone says some shit about you
Why Austin didn't do anything
CZcamsrs making racists "jokes" should be taken seriously regardless of how old they are. Giving you the side eye on this one man....
Marijuana daily isnt a problem...people need to stop bringing that up as an excuse for something...and thank you for saying the your favorite youtuber did this forever ago thing cuz this is the shit that needs to stop!! People make mistakes, they learn and grow from them...that one mistake doesnt define who you are as a person esp when you have grown sense then and moved passed shit...it was a different tome back then! Not that it isnt wrong I know that but EVERYONE does something that was a mistake or whatever you wanna call it! That doesnt mean that person is “horrible” or a “bad person” i swear all these sensitive ass people now a days are just awful...imagine being so sensitive that you gotta cancel people to make yourself feel better😂🖕🏻
I don’t know...he kinda has “that” look. Someone had to say it.
I do not agree with you rock feed
Um he was on that treck with God forever ago 1st off 2nd off I am not taking anything you day as fact as fact cause I know how social things work did anyone take the time to see if these women had previous communication before hand or knew each other in some sense this I want to know
Carlile is a down to earth guy and will never believe these allegations against him.
are you oblivious to the fact that when someone becomes famous, women from their past, even if only met in passing will claim assaults to them? in hopes of fame or fortune? it is a common occurrence. To blindly (even passively, as you have) accuse one of such allegations, based on the hearsay testimonies of others (which have already been disregarded, rightfully so), is, in and of itself, defamation, and is disrespectful. Yes, there are absolutely cases of women coming forward against popular or famous individuals, however when one is popular or famous, such accusations need to be carefully scrutinized, as these have. And as was stated, they were unfounded, yet you passively claim they have merit. Such is disgraceful and you need to reconsider your position.
Ik im years late but they literally did the same with Andrew and Tristan Tate. Js
And I as a woman don't need for you to speak for me, let the law suss this out and NOT Social Media, if these women have been deemed untruthful, then so be it! Lying to promote an agenda has become compulsive with too many in this century. No one should be destroyed by hearsay or for a dumb comment!
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I’m all about hearing people out and innocent until proven guilty. Decades old accusations with no proof except them saying something happened. In this day and time you call a man a rapist with no proof and his life is practically ruined. If this is according to him “ already been investigated and nothing found” and these women are found to be lying for personal gain or financial gain they need to be jailed. If he’s found to be guilty with actual proof he needs to be jailed
Tbh I've met Austin once at warrped tour. He very kind, tbh Austin has stood up for what was right. I personally don't think he would, But we still need to listen to the people who've been attacked. But if you are lying shame on you,. The main people they need to look into sexual assault is blood on the dance floor, Joel Favviar (he's already been caught) Brian stars
I agree with Austin on cancel culture and this witch hunt we find ourselves in at the moment is a huge problem but I also understand what Brian is saying about these women having to be taken seriously. If any of you guys are wrestling fans it just broke that tons of UK pro wrestlers are being accused of abuse and sexual assault amongst other things but reading a few stories it is clear that a lot of those allegations are ridiculous and are drowning out the serious ones in the mix.
I believe Austin and everyone needs to just stop hating on him. I don’t think he would be that kind of person to do those things. Anyways on a different note who else misses him being in Of Mice And Men?
I agree that this is both shocking and very hard to believe but it’s still (sadly) within the realm of possibility. Example: Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, etc. Everyone said it wasn’t possible, they’re too sweet, too nice. So saying “I don’t think they would do that” is not substantial proof of innocence. Granted, those are somewhat extreme examples but still falls under the same umbrella.
stfu
The band doesn’t
god will save him anyways
Austin Carlile I was one of my heroes growing up, I looked up to him and he was the person who inspired me to become a vocalist and Songwriter. I have a very strong opinion about this and I'll say what I think: it's true that early on in his career he was probably a bit out of sorts but he grew up and did changes to his life, he's not the same person he was 13 years ago. He's married now and he has a stepdaughter who he loves with his heart. Unfortunately mankind loves to create rumors and lies to breakdown people's reputation, remember the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard fiasco and how she made up lies about Depp that weren't true? Well all I'm saying is if he did do those things, I know that's in the past, but it's not who he is now, he'll answer to the universe. I'm not defending him but everyone changes for better or worse, only time will tell
you're biased. you're also an idiot
oh and btw, heard was found to be telling the truth in the UK court case but go off
Second
No one cares
First
Stfu
What a joke....I believe its women looking for 5 minutes of fame...leave the man alone
These days everyone is a victim...SMH
Leave your politics out of my music. Seriously dude. We see enough politics. Just stop.
you’re missing the point
This isn't politics
Austin aka the guy who tries to force religion onto people denies this
Stfu hater
How does he force religion? Because he’s vocal about his beliefs?
Force religion? How?