YES THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN the reason im trying to start a metal band and not for example a pop band (even though pop is far more popular) is simply because i dont like pop
How are you so dumb?....Do you think every band is successful as Behemoth?...metal bands DO NOT make any money even the successful ones like Behemoth 🤦♂️ Nergals advice is very smart, he's saying that being in a metal band means you will very likely have a life that is harder and sucks compared to the life of a normal person and he is completely right 💯
Yeah, IT IS Hard work and should Be For sake, Day after Day and night after night like your dream Job or another & still you'll Came around and Exploring The world, and if you are rounding musician you'll want to do that, cause that was The biggest dream of yours 😅 So Do that still and from The bottoms of your hearts Ladies & Gentlemen 😅❤🙏🤘
I have started an epic black metal band 2 years ago and I play because I like to play and NOT because someone from a record company tells me to do so. I don't give a flying fuck if I'll ever be noticed by a loser record label and play live. I love the music and that's all.
@@Bnailling I am not. I have more in common with Gorgoroth circa '94-'97 and early Darkthrone. Having some Windir influence wouldn't be a bad idea, I have also written a song that is influenced by Lord Belial.
The main thing he’s saying is don’t rely on music to make money. Too many losers avoid work, avoid going to college, and put all their time into a band. What he’s saying is true.
I feel advice like this is to cull the weak. If this statement makes you feel like it's not worth doing, then a tour would break you. If you're gonna make it in a band it won't matter what anyone says you'll do it. It's alot. It takes its toll you can see it on every musicians face. Look at him, this is spoken from the inside but it's all he sees. Do what you want just know it's hard as fuck it's gonna hurt as much as if not more than it is fun.
I'll do college and I'll do a job but my whole career is Guitar, if it's not starting a band which I really hope I will it will be being a Solo Guitarist or YT Guitarist Or maybe just some Guitar jobs But I'm going big with big dreams 💎🎸
FACTS! It’s literally a waste of time and money. It’s just like what AC/DC said “it’s a long way to the top if you wanna rock n roll”. Even when you make it to the top all the merchandise and concerts sold goes to all your expenses (traveling, venues, fireworks and promotions) and to the bands managers. That shit that you see on mtv about their “cribs” is all just for show and not real, it’s just to lure fools into coveting a more luxurious lifestyle. So Nergal is telling the truth. If you want to be in a band then do it for the sake of making music not for the illusion of the luxurious lifestyle.
Most people in most unknown bands just have a blast playing shows with their friends and fellow local bands. Playing a show for like 50 people is still an amazing feeling, especially if everyone at the show is feeling your music. I could never make a dime off of my music and I would still play a show for like 20 people in a heartbeat.
Heeey, everybody is free to express their opinions! If ye don't listen to him, that's fine! But he has some experience, some thinking, some opinions. Ye can never and ever tell a word about a person expressing and sharing these!! No one claimes to be yer father here!
He's right especially with the state of the economy. A lot of big bands are losing their ass when it comes to touring. And with streaming replacing albums. Streaming don't pay much. Dani Filth was one to come out and talk about that.
As someone who worked in the Entertainment industry, I can tell you right now it's almost impossible to make money in the industry unless you want to go pop music and sign your soul away to a Corporation.
@@mazinblasterzetto9645 well, before the pandemic Nergal was making a lot of money. Even in the Evangelion / Satanist era some Polish gossip portals revealed how much money each Behemoth member makes per show and the money was really good.
EXACTLY! People are dumb, they really think its easy to make a living as musician 🤦♂️...metal bands DO NOT even make any money even the successful ones like Behemoth. People are very ignorant🤦♂️ Nergals advice is very smart, he's saying that being in a metal band means you will very likely have a life that is much harder and sucks compared to the life of a normal person and he is completely right 💯
Man, so many people in this comments section are coping hard and getting triggered. He’s 100% correct. There are far too many bands/artists out there, trying to do the exact same thing that they all are; becoming a well-known/respected artist. Unfortunately, there’s only a limited number of slots available for that. And with an ever-decreasing attention span in the average person, those slots are only going to become fewer and fewer. Nergal came during a time when it was possible to have a career in music if you had talent, wrote good material, and knew what you were doing. Because the market simply just wasn’t nearly as saturated as it is now. That ship has sailed… Fact is, most aspiring artists are going to end up working a normie-tier job being a wagie.
I think that goes for almost everything….everything has been done to death and is super saturated nowadays…I don’t know if there’s a way to start from the bottom and make big money, aside from crime
@@Aegianlulz Once computer science became really popular it's been saturated, there's not really in new territory to go into. I like rock but there's just no new rock bands, I mean how many distorted power chords are there before it sounds like anything else.
@@manager4409 Of coursew there are, you just need to pay attention. All Them Witches, King Buffalo, Wolfmother, Graveyard, the list is endless. And it's all awesome.
My god you are dumb, you really think its easy to make a living as musician? 🤦♂️...metal bands DO NOT make any money even the successful ones like Behemoth. People are very ignorant🤦♂️ Nergals advice is very smart, he's saying that being in a metal band means you will very likely have a life that is much harder and sucks compared to the life of a normal person and he is completely right 💯
Advice like that is how people end up homeless and bitter lol. Like nergal said, go start a real career before any band lol. It’s very easy to waste your life on a band that will never amount to anything just look at any local scene 😂
@@Angellisgod I never said quit your job and go for the rockstar life, mate ;) I sad do what you like and enjoy it. There's a fine line between being a plain idiot and a person who wants to start something without giving it an extreme label like 'this will be only a hobby or career.' One can just give it a shot and see where it goes.
He is absolutely right. As a guitarist myself, playing for 13 years, I totally understand and although it might hurt some people to hear, but this is the truth here. Music is a very tough business even IF you make a name for yourself.
A lot of the comments are from people that have never toured extensively and given up any ounce of security or stability to do it. I did for almost 5 years and it was some of the best times and worst times of my life. Being a full time touring musician comes with its challenges. Especially being in a metal band! The cost of touring for a band is up by I think 200% from even 18 months ago. I agree with several things Nergal is saying coming from the lens he’s had for several decades but music is and always will be a massive part of my life. Not playing music for several years once I left touring full time caused some hideous depression until I picked up my guitar again. Play music. Start a band. Start the most obscure band on the planet as long as you’re having fun and doing it for the right reasons, but anyone that has toured and done the damn thing in the metal world knows exactly what Nergal is talking about.
Dude he's being crazy. With all the respect I have, I can't accept this. There's always space for you, if you're doing a great job you'll get big. Trust me. Proven!
Always have a plan b for if it doesn't work out well. Chase your dreams, but insure that if you face hardships you always have something to fall back on (money, job, educational degree)
On one hand I can see what he's saying. There are so many bands and genres, it's hard to keep up now. And I'm sure it's no easy task to make it in the music industry. On the other hand, we need future talent and future bands to keep metal fresh since the older bands will eventually stop putting out music. Also, when you have shitty genres like pop and rap churning out album after album year after year and making millions, then we outsiders and outcasts will continually need an outlet to balance out all that mainstream crap. Metal must live on 🤘
He’s right. You have to live your life, go to college, love your family. If the music is still bleeding out of you after all that, that’s when it deserves to be heard. I’m tired of sifting through the deluge of modern metal bands that sound like they just sat down and wrote random crap.
It is true. With all the high tech lately u can make ur own album and easier at home no need for record labels really it's all digital and spread music thru CZcams social media's it's truth
@@jeffarab4947no need for labels would probably be a good thing. Too many great artists who get absolutely screwed by labels. If your music is good enough to build a fanbase, stay independent and go the DIY route. Unless it's a great label of course who isnt there solely to screw bands over financially and even stylistically as much as possible.
Because he’s an asshole who’s saying it purely for selfish reasons, ie he doesn’t want the competition. Personally I want to hear as much awesome new metal as possible.
He’s absolutely right, and I’m not even a metal producer. This is just about making music in general, if you cannot make music on your worst worst day you might as well chalk it up and leave it alone. On top of learning your DAW “good musicians know more than one” you have to market your work, publish it, then look for sync reps which aren’t always receptive to your work. On top of working out bookings etc. You can go 10-15 years without seeing any money even with a degree. It’s legit a labor of love I swear, you have got to love the process to do it, and that’s any genre. Again, unless you’re ready to feel every emotion chasing it you might as well let it be.
It’s always been this way but it’s really aggressive now… across all genres, people doing music for fame/clout out-competing people who actually want to make music. And corporations having monopolies on ticket prices. It’s hell.
For any of the younger generations! Follow your dreams! It's such a cliche thing to say, but it's absolutely a true statement if you want to be a professional musician in life put every waking breath, every ounce of care and effort into Mastering your goals! And if you fail it's just a stepping stone to be able to get back up and at least you won't make the same failure again next time! Therefore a failure is just a lesson learned!!😏🤘🤘
I've been a musician for over 35 years, I've made no real money from music but that is not the point I play music because I enjoy it and the people who hear it sometimes do to.
@@sindieltaylor2147 Just because you know how to appeal to the masses, doesn't mean that you are good. It's all about personal taste in the end. For example, Mötley Crüe, appeals to the masses and is just like Behemoth utter garbage. Always has been, always will be. And then you have Motörhead, appeals to the masses. And they were an excellent band, same with Black Sabbath.
@@sindieltaylor2147 You said that and then 15Diehard fans liked your comment man that must feel like when the power rangers get the Mega zord from Zordon phoned in and then win the fight you are just so cool how do you do it
That is exactly it actually. He knows that the one you can't handle it, will give up after his words. But the ones who can make it, will just don't give any fuck to it ^^
Only the one can be told that message and still go on to be the one. The message should dissuade all the ones who would obviously fail, and the ones who aren't dissuaded might actually have what it takes.
I'm not a vocalist because I'm trying to fit into a space. Also, if Abyssmal Spectre had taken this advice i wouldn't have the albums A New Generation of Vampiric Conspiracies or Crocodile Moat!!! They don't even tour. Lots of people listen to Bandcamp bands that don't tour My advice, start a band and have fun. Put your music online. Don't try to be a touring band unless you really really want to be one. There's plenty of promotion channels on CZcams that will give you exposure without touring.
Pretty myopic from a guy whose output I respect. Good advice from a perspective of trying to make *money* in music, but there are so many reasons to play, compose and record music that have little to do with commercial considerations. Even if you're working at a SafeWay or a call center, if you put out an album nobody can ever take that away from you! And if you get a nice writeup that makes your day better or do something unique that speaks to people, all the better! Have that mix of realism and outlandish hope that fuels all creative endeavors. Also, if there are too many bands and albums already and tours are struggling, wouldn't this advice apply to Behemoth deciding whether to clog the pipes as it were with a new album or tour? I'm still enjoying their work so I wouldn't want them to retire, whether they had 300 listeners on lastFM or a million.
Unfortunately it's not bullshit just brutal truth. If you do it besides your job as a passion, that's something else, do it, and don't wan to make a business from your music.
I mean he’s not wrong… How many hundreds of thousands or millions of people are trying to do the same thing?? And still not making it and they’re scratching their heads wondering why. Everyone wants to be a rockstar or a huge rapper, but the fact is, there’s only a limited number of slots available. Peoples attention real estate is ever decreasing, and soon there will come a time when AI will just replace the need for humans making music. The amount of copium on this comment section is insane. I don’t like Nergal either…I think he’s cringe, but on this subject he’s spot-on.
@@nox-69 Even in the Rap world there are just so many who try and just don't make it and get delusional about making it in the Rap game...we've all seen the Filthy Frank video on the subject
@@nox-69 I have indeed. And yes, whilst Rap/Hip-Hop are clearly the most dominant genres by a huge margin, that also means that there’s simply more kids trying to be rappers (because they really believe it’s easy to “make it”). For every rapper that gets famous (most of them get famous now not by the merits of their music, but by acting like a complete r-tard on social media), there’s 5000 other kids trying to do the same thing. It’s just scaled up
He is basically saying the economy doesn't support the success of most up & coming musicians. It isn't like it used to be when people had money to throw around. He is being realistic & honorable by not giving people he influences false hope.
Spot on correct. This whole "you can be anything you want to be" is often misunderstood as "you can be successful at anything you want. Simply not at all true. I agree with the practicality of his statement. Pay bills first and has passions second.
I make records, SMOKE MOUNTAIN (doom grunge from Tallahassee, FL) we are signed to ARGONAUTA records and I am enjoying every second of it. There is always room for more bands and music! I love Nergal, but what a douchey thing to say.
Makes sense about the too many tours only 7 days BUT you will spend your money on whatever show you want AND more bands more to choose your choice GO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT ITS YOUR LIFE AND TIME JUST DON'T STOP ROCKING MY METAL HEAD FELLAS 🤘🤘🤘
@@urgaalnoir5268 if that is what you think cool body, I would say every one should do more, it's up to you hommie cause you never who's gonna like your style 🤘🤘🤘
@@richardchavez9423 of course not ,i was being sarcastic of the idea that every field is filled with talents and there is no room for any improvements , like there is almost 8 billion souls around ,who am i or who's nergal to decide what should happen next for those people or what would they like or like not ??
@@urgaalnoir5268 I'm glad that you were being sarcastic, unfortunately you'll be surprised how many people listen and do what ever someone else says but, it's part of the show LETS KEEP ROCKING 🤘🤘🤘AND HEAD BANGING HELL YEAH!!!
I think somewhere in this message is that if you are so soft as not to handle a little discouragement, you are not equipped to handle what would come your way.
As much as i support and encourage up and coming bands, he is right. The market is way over saturated. In life in general it is better to find a market that isnt over saturated
Telling people not to follow their dreams, not to be creative and to find a normal job isn't very satanic now is it. Create art because you love it! Follow your heart disregard this fool.
I hope everyone realises he's taking the piss here... Also, he's just tapping into his dad powers and giving what is really sound advice meant to be completely ignored. 😂
Currently in my mid-30’s trying to put my life together and find something stable Spent my 20’s chasing the musician life and I wish I had heard this advice back then
You got time man! i spent my 20s doing nothing but skateboarding and video games.. Always did love animals though, so i tried to find a career in that. Jumped around from for another 10 years and now im 32 and an ER Vet tech and i couldnt love it more. Youll find what you want just take a step back and look!
With all due respect, you absolute legend, metal is the only thing in life that brings me this level of happiness and I've been working on my vocals for a decade. It is the only thing in life besides my girl, my mother, and gaming that I legitimately love. I'ma do what I want. Matter of fact, black metal started as an act of rebellion against shit getting too stale. And personally, I think it's time for another revolution in metal. Let's make this shit properly evil again.
After artists like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Scorpions, Sodom, Prince, Beherit, Darkthrone, Skid Row, Burzum, Michael Jackson, Mayhem and Kreator.....the world was so lucky to experience Behemoth....the day that music died ❤
This has always been the case since pre-internet in terms of pretty much doing music and playing shows for the love of the music. Today, tho its SO different. How we consume music these days has change drastically. How one is able to acquire the tools to properly record an LP has changed to the point that with a good PC or a Mac, you could pirate your way to many recording software which means those on a budget and not counting the computers, need less hardware in the recording process. The DIY recording/pressing/distro has now been more accessible than ever. For an underground scene, where bands are sleeping on peoples floors after a gig at some DIY show space or whatever, this doesn't mean much but for those who are trying to make it, not even make it big but make it in a way where they can pay their bills and whatnot, I couldn't even imagine.
I just listened to a Hungarian band called Ektomorf ,they sound pretty much like soulfly but with something different and new , I liked their how different and diverse they are .and the fact that a black metal artist talks about this is very surprising !
Ah i know Ektomorf since they released 'I Know Them' 15 years ago, they're great and wish i had the chance before to see them live... but it's definitely not a new band, i do get Nergal's point about so many music and bands already being out there, and another copycat of something is probably not what a lot of people are waiting for... and it's definitely not easy starting a band and even way harder to make your living out of it, but some bands still manage to bring something new and unique to the table like Alien Weaponry etc. and definitely deserve their spot.
I get what he's saying. I've been absolutely overwhelmed with tours coming to my city since Covid to the point where it's almost like a job just to see bands that I like. But to give you an example, Judas Priest played here in the Chicago area like a week before the Hof induction. They only sold 1200 tickets out of 1600, and even had some t shirts for 65 dollars..
Ah crap, I don't wanna get pulled into this difficult topic but I'll give you all a brief summary. When I was working long hours, I couldn't find a band. Got despondent. I decided not to be time poor and decided to be more creative. My job now doesn't take up so much time and I can devote efforts to music. I have an album (sold a few) working on two more and likely to have a third project. And I'm in my 50s. Yes, a bit late but feel like I've been given a second chance. Just give it a try.
it takes a lot of courage and a great inner drive..if the young artist has what it takes to break through, he must do it..because it becomes a mission..without predestination, it's difficult
I met a bunch of musicians, people that were doing their job for years or decades, not earning even a minimal wage. I had my go 30+ yrs ago, no, I wont turn back, I play for my own pleasure, here and there I make some public appearance (not earning a penny), I make my life doing a decent job.
I get his point. Mediocre metal bands will just fail because they can't stand out among the thousands of bands competing for the space...We really don't need more of those. But if you have the talent, the creativity and you're willing to put in the hard work, then absolutely go for it.
He is saying to have some stability and do this as your hobby. If I was an amazing guitarist and band caliber, I would t quit my day job. He doesn’t want many people who are striving to be big to go down a bad path and destroy themselves financially and sell their souls for these corporations.
I kinda agree, but I'm mixed about it. Question yourself: "How far do I and my bandmates wanna go? Do we do this for fun or fame? How much are we willing to put into the effort to making it?"
What he was getting at (not very clearly) is that it is a very difficult life and they make much less money than most people realise - unless you have known or spoken with professional musicians you will not know how difficult a life it is - easy when you are in your 20's but not in your 40's or older. Watch the bus invaders series and look at what bands in their 50's and 60's are doing to make a living - of course they are going to tell their fans they love it. Also, if a band does have some success they get locked into their 'brand' and rarely have any success doing something different.
He's right. I wont even listen to new music anymore. There's not enough time for all the music out there. The only thing that happns when i get new music is that i have less time for the music i already have
Dont listen to him! You can start band for fun! Music is not about money. Music is not about fame. If you start a band with awesome people it will be so much fun! Even if you will play just in local show or in your garage to your grandma it can be really awesome!
It’s not that his opinion is incorrect. It’s the fact that it’s too extreme and generalized and is not, obviously, going to be applicable to everyone. Some people, solo artists or bands, will have it in their destiny to put out their talent out and be recognized and some won’t.
I have seen this video and listened carefully before commenting. Mr.Darski, how shallow of you to tell kids what to not do instead of what to do. If someone wants to start a band, your duty is to support and convince that kid to be more skilful and work harder and harder...just like you did in your dog years. Your arguments are lacking of valid points. Is dangerous on how you take irrelevant points and you merge them as they are relevant. Is fine to feel angry, old and bitter ..probably the industry has screwed ya 360 in Dolby Atmos mode...but c'mon man...don't bring your misery over anyone who wants to grab a guitar or a pair of drumsticks... But hey, then again..."Me and That Man"..... ;-)
He's partially right. Bands are allocated a piece of the market which is funded by paying fans. Say there are on average you're willing to spend 1000€ a year on metal albums, tickets, merch etc. All the bands of the world are fighting over your 1000 (or 2). And there are too many bands now.
I guess it depends on the part of the world You are living in. Here in South America is very important to persuade people about creating Metal bands, because Metal genre tends to fade out in time.
I understand what he means . He admitted in one interview that despite of big promotion his second project "Me and that man" didn't earn enough money to keep it going . So I understand that he can feel now that he no longer understands the music business and he feels that he is forced to play in Behemoth because he can't do anything else .
As a musician, I understand what he means. Honest opinion. You have to do music for fun, not fame.
Yes, success is a consequence
Metal doesn't pay like it did in the 80s and 90s
But he didn’t say the aspiring metal vocalist would be doing it for profit over passion.
Or money
YES THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN the reason im trying to start a metal band and not for example a pop band (even though pop is far more popular) is simply because i dont like pop
My advice to young artists: don't listen Nergals bullshit.
😂 😂 😂
Exactly
I love him and Behemoth, but come on....
How are you so dumb?....Do you think every band is successful as Behemoth?...metal bands DO NOT make any money even the successful ones like Behemoth 🤦♂️
Nergals advice is very smart, he's saying that being in a metal band means you will very likely have a life that is harder and sucks compared to the life of a normal person and he is completely right 💯
Yeah, IT IS Hard work and should Be For sake, Day after Day and night after night like your dream Job or another & still you'll Came around and Exploring The world, and if you are rounding musician you'll want to do that, cause that was The biggest dream of yours 😅 So Do that still and from The bottoms of your hearts Ladies & Gentlemen 😅❤🙏🤘
"...all the tours are suffering..."
Ah, there it is.
I mean tours are just not worth it anymore. It's more money into it than it is out. For metal that is. Other genres are different
You don't understand what the covid bullcrap did to musicians...
I have started an epic black metal band 2 years ago and I play because I like to play and NOT because someone from a record company tells me to do so. I don't give a flying fuck if I'll ever be noticed by a loser record label and play live. I love the music and that's all.
Straight up. I do it for me as well.
Just promise us you won’t be an Emperor clone, sprinkle some Windir in there
@@Bnailling I am not. I have more in common with Gorgoroth circa '94-'97 and early Darkthrone. Having some Windir influence wouldn't be a bad idea, I have also written a song that is influenced by Lord Belial.
That's the only reason that matters as to why anyone should make music. Nice, man.
@@emperorsavron-peterdewind0358 I don’t even consider Gorgoroth as music… just noise and image
“ Don’t take money out of my pocket.” -Nergal
Indeed
Only a low IQ species can interpret Nerga's words like “ Don’t take money out of my pocket.”
Hаhаha, playing metal for money, hahaha
Not even close to what he was talking about
I see you have Kaali as your pfp
The main thing he’s saying is don’t rely on music to make money. Too many losers avoid work, avoid going to college, and put all their time into a band.
What he’s saying is true.
Thats it do what he says you do what your told LOOL
I feel advice like this is to cull the weak. If this statement makes you feel like it's not worth doing, then a tour would break you. If you're gonna make it in a band it won't matter what anyone says you'll do it. It's alot. It takes its toll you can see it on every musicians face. Look at him, this is spoken from the inside but it's all he sees. Do what you want just know it's hard as fuck it's gonna hurt as much as if not more than it is fun.
I'll do college and I'll do a job but my whole career is Guitar, if it's not starting a band which I really hope I will it will be being a Solo Guitarist or YT Guitarist
Or maybe just some Guitar jobs
But I'm going big with big dreams 💎🎸
@@RJMetalGuitarist03keep your big dreams. I have been drumming for 20 years and nothing will stop me either. Don't care how difficult it is.
Making money as a musician is way more work than your shitty 9-5 😂 Half of you bums are going to be replaced by AI pretty soon anyway 👋
There will never be too many musicians in this world.
Agreed, it's all about balance. And if you are a true artist not creating hurts your soul and only makes regrets.
FACTS! It’s literally a waste of time and money. It’s just like what AC/DC said “it’s a long way to the top if you wanna rock n roll”. Even when you make it to the top all the merchandise and concerts sold goes to all your expenses (traveling, venues, fireworks and promotions) and to the bands managers. That shit that you see on mtv about their “cribs” is all just for show and not real, it’s just to lure fools into coveting a more luxurious lifestyle. So Nergal is telling the truth. If you want to be in a band then do it for the sake of making music not for the illusion of the luxurious lifestyle.
Stop. You're giving too much quality information for this forum. *too on point, the servers might snap"
Very true. Better have a career in something more financially stable and keep music as fun projects or therapy
Most people in most unknown bands just have a blast playing shows with their friends and fellow local bands. Playing a show for like 50 people is still an amazing feeling, especially if everyone at the show is feeling your music.
I could never make a dime off of my music and I would still play a show for like 20 people in a heartbeat.
Great music isn't forced. Use it as a hobby and if you're lucky enough to get noticed... you may reach that dream. But dont lose touch with reality.
Artists can't really choose not to do art (and stay mentally healthy)
Thanks, dad 🤨
Heeey, everybody is free to express their opinions! If ye don't listen to him, that's fine! But he has some experience, some thinking, some opinions. Ye can never and ever tell a word about a person expressing and sharing these!! No one claimes to be yer father here!
Lmao 😂
He's right especially with the state of the economy. A lot of big bands are losing their ass when it comes to touring. And with streaming replacing albums. Streaming don't pay much. Dani Filth was one to come out and talk about that.
So many entertainment options these days he's right. You're not going to get some huge following of people who pay to see you
As someone who worked in the Entertainment industry, I can tell you right now it's almost impossible to make money in the industry unless you want to go pop music and sign your soul away to a Corporation.
@Mazinblaster Zetto nergal owns a couple of businesses and his net worth is like 10 million according to the internet
@@mazinblasterzetto9645 well, before the pandemic Nergal was making a lot of money. Even in the Evangelion / Satanist era some Polish gossip portals revealed how much money each Behemoth member makes per show and the money was really good.
EXACTLY! People are dumb, they really think its easy to make a living as musician 🤦♂️...metal bands DO NOT even make any money even the successful ones like Behemoth. People are very ignorant🤦♂️
Nergals advice is very smart, he's saying that being in a metal band means you will very likely have a life that is much harder and sucks compared to the life of a normal person and he is completely right 💯
Metal is a genre of Pop Music, genius.
@@juser-abuserThen so is every genre. If some amount of people like it then it's pop music! Because it's popular!
Man, so many people in this comments section are coping hard and getting triggered.
He’s 100% correct. There are far too many bands/artists out there, trying to do the exact same thing that they all are; becoming a well-known/respected artist. Unfortunately, there’s only a limited number of slots available for that. And with an ever-decreasing attention span in the average person, those slots are only going to become fewer and fewer.
Nergal came during a time when it was possible to have a career in music if you had talent, wrote good material, and knew what you were doing. Because the market simply just wasn’t nearly as saturated as it is now.
That ship has sailed…
Fact is, most aspiring artists are going to end up working a normie-tier job being a wagie.
Even bands like Megadeth and avenged sevenfold we're complaining about how expensive touring is now. Only the big name bands are making money
I think that goes for almost everything….everything has been done to death and is super saturated nowadays…I don’t know if there’s a way to start from the bottom and make big money, aside from crime
@@Aegianlulz Once computer science became really popular it's been saturated, there's not really in new territory to go into. I like rock but there's just no new rock bands, I mean how many distorted power chords are there before it sounds like anything else.
Even with crime you will have to compete with established groups@@Aegianlulz
@@manager4409 Of coursew there are, you just need to pay attention. All Them Witches, King Buffalo, Wolfmother, Graveyard, the list is endless. And it's all awesome.
Very shallow opinion. Start whatever art endeavour you like and don't give a single fuck about others' opinions!
Negral from Demigod-Apostasy era would laugh at what he has become.
My god you are dumb, you really think its easy to make a living as musician? 🤦♂️...metal bands DO NOT make any money even the successful ones like Behemoth. People are very ignorant🤦♂️
Nergals advice is very smart, he's saying that being in a metal band means you will very likely have a life that is much harder and sucks compared to the life of a normal person and he is completely right 💯
Very shallow opinion?
I guess you don't understand how money works in this nazi dystopia.
Not going to make any making music nowadays.
Advice like that is how people end up homeless and bitter lol. Like nergal said, go start a real career before any band lol. It’s very easy to waste your life on a band that will never amount to anything just look at any local scene 😂
@@Angellisgod I never said quit your job and go for the rockstar life, mate ;) I sad do what you like and enjoy it. There's a fine line between being a plain idiot and a person who wants to start something without giving it an extreme label like 'this will be only a hobby or career.' One can just give it a shot and see where it goes.
He is absolutely right. As a guitarist myself, playing for 13 years, I totally understand and although it might hurt some people to hear, but this is the truth here. Music is a very tough business even IF you make a name for yourself.
A lot of the comments are from people that have never toured extensively and given up any ounce of security or stability to do it. I did for almost 5 years and it was some of the best times and worst times of my life.
Being a full time touring musician comes with its challenges. Especially being in a metal band!
The cost of touring for a band is up by I think 200% from even 18 months ago.
I agree with several things Nergal is saying coming from the lens he’s had for several decades but music is and always will be a massive part of my life.
Not playing music for several years once I left touring full time caused some hideous depression until I picked up my guitar again.
Play music. Start a band. Start the most obscure band on the planet as long as you’re having fun and doing it for the right reasons, but anyone that has toured and done the damn thing in the metal world knows exactly what Nergal is talking about.
Dude he's being crazy. With all the respect I have, I can't accept this. There's always space for you, if you're doing a great job you'll get big. Trust me. Proven!
Always have a plan b for if it doesn't work out well. Chase your dreams, but insure that if you face hardships you always have something to fall back on (money, job, educational degree)
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That's kinda what he's saying, but people misinterpreted it.
On one hand I can see what he's saying. There are so many bands and genres, it's hard to keep up now. And I'm sure it's no easy task to make it in the music industry. On the other hand, we need future talent and future bands to keep metal fresh since the older bands will eventually stop putting out music. Also, when you have shitty genres like pop and rap churning out album after album year after year and making millions, then we outsiders and outcasts will continually need an outlet to balance out all that mainstream crap. Metal must live on 🤘
No one in this comment section got his point
He’s right. You have to live your life, go to college, love your family. If the music is still bleeding out of you after all that, that’s when it deserves to be heard. I’m tired of sifting through the deluge of modern metal bands that sound like they just sat down and wrote random crap.
Dude, I'll do whatever I want to do, same as you.
Best post in comments.
College is a scam and a waste of time 90% of the time.
He said the truth. I dont understand those angry comments
It is true. With all the high tech lately u can make ur own album and easier at home no need for record labels really it's all digital and spread music thru CZcams social media's it's truth
@@jeffarab4947no need for labels would probably be a good thing. Too many great artists who get absolutely screwed by labels. If your music is good enough to build a fanbase, stay independent and go the DIY route. Unless it's a great label of course who isnt there solely to screw bands over financially and even stylistically as much as possible.
Those "angry comments" you mention are people who either do not understand what he actually means or people who just don't wanna accept reality.
Because he’s an asshole who’s saying it purely for selfish reasons, ie he doesn’t want the competition. Personally I want to hear as much awesome new metal as possible.
@@jeffarab4947Yes,i want to do that.
In other words: He doesn't want competition.
He’s absolutely right, and I’m not even a metal producer. This is just about making music in general, if you cannot make music on your worst worst day you might as well chalk it up and leave it alone. On top of learning your DAW “good musicians know more than one” you have to market your work, publish it, then look for sync reps which aren’t always receptive to your work. On top of working out bookings etc. You can go 10-15 years without seeing any money even with a degree. It’s legit a labor of love I swear, you have got to love the process to do it, and that’s any genre. Again, unless you’re ready to feel every emotion chasing it you might as well let it be.
It’s always been this way but it’s really aggressive now… across all genres, people doing music for fame/clout out-competing people who actually want to make music. And corporations having monopolies on ticket prices. It’s hell.
For any of the younger generations! Follow your dreams! It's such a cliche thing to say, but it's absolutely a true statement if you want to be a professional musician in life put every waking breath, every ounce of care and effort into Mastering your goals! And if you fail it's just a stepping stone to be able to get back up and at least you won't make the same failure again next time! Therefore a failure is just a lesson learned!!😏🤘🤘
Dude, are you 14 or something?
@@juser-abuser 47 kiddo
I've been a musician for over 35 years, I've made no real money from music but that is not the point I play music because I enjoy it and the people who hear it sometimes do to.
To bad he didn't follow his own advice.
It's almost as if he started over 30 years ago and has become one of the biggest metal acts on Earth since then. I'm sure he knows nothing.
@@sindieltaylor2147 Just because you know how to appeal to the masses, doesn't mean that you are good. It's all about personal taste in the end. For example, Mötley Crüe, appeals to the masses and is just like Behemoth utter garbage. Always has been, always will be. And then you have Motörhead, appeals to the masses. And they were an excellent band, same with Black Sabbath.
The trend is cover song right now
@@LordAsharak what makes motorhead an excellent band and behemoth utter garbage?
@@sindieltaylor2147 You said that and then 15Diehard fans liked your comment man that must feel like when the power rangers get the Mega zord from Zordon phoned in and then win the fight you are just so cool how do you do it
That sounds like matrix when the oracle says to Neo you are not the one
That is exactly it actually. He knows that the one you can't handle it, will give up after his words. But the ones who can make it, will just don't give any fuck to it ^^
Only the one can be told that message and still go on to be the one. The message should dissuade all the ones who would obviously fail, and the ones who aren't dissuaded might actually have what it takes.
He does not want more competition for his band
There is no competition. His band is the worst.
He's not worried about it. Behemoth isn't even that good. The rest of that genre is even worse.
@@jerm2011
Yeah, okay fucker. Dislike Behemoth, but you're just slinging shit towards blackened death for no reason. Get real.
I'm not a vocalist because I'm trying to fit into a space.
Also, if Abyssmal Spectre had taken this advice i wouldn't have the albums A New Generation of Vampiric Conspiracies or Crocodile Moat!!!
They don't even tour. Lots of people listen to Bandcamp bands that don't tour
My advice, start a band and have fun. Put your music online. Don't try to be a touring band unless you really really want to be one.
There's plenty of promotion channels on CZcams that will give you exposure without touring.
He’s not lying. The hustle culture makes you work all the time. And he is self managed so he’s on clock 24:7
There has to be a better answer than this.
Pretty myopic from a guy whose output I respect. Good advice from a perspective of trying to make *money* in music, but there are so many reasons to play, compose and record music that have little to do with commercial considerations. Even if you're working at a SafeWay or a call center, if you put out an album nobody can ever take that away from you! And if you get a nice writeup that makes your day better or do something unique that speaks to people, all the better! Have that mix of realism and outlandish hope that fuels all creative endeavors.
Also, if there are too many bands and albums already and tours are struggling, wouldn't this advice apply to Behemoth deciding whether to clog the pipes as it were with a new album or tour? I'm still enjoying their work so I wouldn't want them to retire, whether they had 300 listeners on lastFM or a million.
Unfortunately it's not bullshit just brutal truth. If you do it besides your job as a passion, that's something else, do it, and don't wan to make a business from your music.
Basically kill your dreams folks
I mean he’s not wrong…
How many hundreds of thousands or millions of people are trying to do the same thing?? And still not making it and they’re scratching their heads wondering why.
Everyone wants to be a rockstar or a huge rapper, but the fact is, there’s only a limited number of slots available. Peoples attention real estate is ever decreasing, and soon there will come a time when AI will just replace the need for humans making music.
The amount of copium on this comment section is insane. I don’t like Nergal either…I think he’s cringe, but on this subject he’s spot-on.
@@MortuusMachinatrue for metal. You can be a rapper nowadays easier than ever.
@@nox-69 Even in the Rap world there are just so many who try and just don't make it and get delusional about making it in the Rap game...we've all seen the Filthy Frank video on the subject
@@MortuusMachina no. have you seen today's musical landscape?
@@nox-69 I have indeed. And yes, whilst Rap/Hip-Hop are clearly the most dominant genres by a huge margin, that also means that there’s simply more kids trying to be rappers (because they really believe it’s easy to “make it”).
For every rapper that gets famous (most of them get famous now not by the merits of their music, but by acting like a complete r-tard on social media), there’s 5000 other kids trying to do the same thing.
It’s just scaled up
Sad but true for all musician out there including me. Music been a part of life and it's more
Now it's Not for business like he said..
He is basically saying the economy doesn't support the success of most up & coming musicians. It isn't like it used to be when people had money to throw around. He is being realistic & honorable by not giving people he influences false hope.
Spot on correct. This whole "you can be anything you want to be" is often misunderstood as "you can be successful at anything you want. Simply not at all true. I agree with the practicality of his statement. Pay bills first and has passions second.
He is using reverse psychology on you guys 😂😂
I make records, SMOKE MOUNTAIN (doom grunge from Tallahassee, FL) we are signed to ARGONAUTA records and I am enjoying every second of it. There is always room for more bands and music! I love Nergal, but what a douchey thing to say.
He spoke from the heart
as a teen who wants to start a band i’ll take his advice to heart
Makes sense about the too many tours only 7 days BUT you will spend your money on whatever show you want AND more bands more to choose your choice
GO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT ITS YOUR LIFE AND TIME JUST DON'T STOP ROCKING MY METAL HEAD FELLAS 🤘🤘🤘
i think the same logic can be applied on any field like arts or design , everyone should just do nothing since there is so much competition .
@@urgaalnoir5268 if that is what you think cool body, I would say every one should do more, it's up to you hommie cause you never who's gonna like your style 🤘🤘🤘
@@richardchavez9423 of course not ,i was being sarcastic of the idea that every field is filled with talents and there is no room for any improvements , like there is almost 8 billion souls around ,who am i or who's nergal to decide what should happen next for those people or what would they like or like not ??
@@urgaalnoir5268 I'm glad that you were being sarcastic, unfortunately you'll be surprised how many people listen and do what ever someone else says but, it's part of the show LETS KEEP ROCKING 🤘🤘🤘AND HEAD BANGING HELL YEAH!!!
I think somewhere in this message is that if you are so soft as not to handle a little discouragement, you are not equipped to handle what would come your way.
Agreed! Unless you have breakthrough material, that fame you’re searching for is gonna be extremely hard to achieve.
As much as i support and encourage up and coming bands, he is right. The market is way over saturated. In life in general it is better to find a market that isnt over saturated
«It's A Long Way To The Top (If You Wanna Rock 'n' Roll)»
Telling people not to follow their dreams, not to be creative and to find a normal job isn't very satanic now is it. Create art because you love it! Follow your heart disregard this fool.
At this point, 'following your dream' isn't an option.
How about facing the nazi dystopia we live in first and foremost?
I hope everyone realises he's taking the piss here... Also, he's just tapping into his dad powers and giving what is really sound advice meant to be completely ignored. 😂
No he's telling the truth because 98% of bands suck.
TRUE. Only do it if you’re already RICH and just want to play in a band and your for FUN.
Currently in my mid-30’s trying to put my life together and find something stable
Spent my 20’s chasing the musician life and I wish I had heard this advice back then
You got time man!
i spent my 20s doing nothing but skateboarding and video games.. Always did love animals though, so i tried to find a career in that. Jumped around from for another 10 years and now im 32 and an ER Vet tech and i couldnt love it more. Youll find what you want just take a step back and look!
Well you're a self defeatist 🤷🏻♀️ you didn't have the passion if you think it was a waste of time. You were chasing fame, not the musician life.
With all due respect, you absolute legend, metal is the only thing in life that brings me this level of happiness and I've been working on my vocals for a decade. It is the only thing in life besides my girl, my mother, and gaming that I legitimately love. I'ma do what I want.
Matter of fact, black metal started as an act of rebellion against shit getting too stale. And personally, I think it's time for another revolution in metal. Let's make this shit properly evil again.
After artists like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Scorpions, Sodom, Prince, Beherit, Darkthrone, Skid Row, Burzum, Michael Jackson, Mayhem and Kreator.....the world was so lucky to experience Behemoth....the day that music died ❤
This has always been the case since pre-internet in terms of pretty much doing music and playing shows for the love of the music. Today, tho its SO different. How we consume music these days has change drastically. How one is able to acquire the tools to properly record an LP has changed to the point that with a good PC or a Mac, you could pirate your way to many recording software which means those on a budget and not counting the computers, need less hardware in the recording process. The DIY recording/pressing/distro has now been more accessible than ever. For an underground scene, where bands are sleeping on peoples floors after a gig at some DIY show space or whatever, this doesn't mean much but for those who are trying to make it, not even make it big but make it in a way where they can pay their bills and whatnot, I couldn't even imagine.
I just listened to a Hungarian band called Ektomorf ,they sound pretty much like soulfly but with something different and new , I liked their how different and diverse they are .and the fact that a black metal artist talks about this is very surprising !
Ah i know Ektomorf since they released 'I Know Them' 15 years ago, they're great and wish i had the chance before to see them live... but it's definitely not a new band, i do get Nergal's point about so many music and bands already being out there, and another copycat of something is probably not what a lot of people are waiting for... and it's definitely not easy starting a band and even way harder to make your living out of it, but some bands still manage to bring something new and unique to the table like Alien Weaponry etc. and definitely deserve their spot.
Thanks for the info got to check them out 🤘🤘🤘
I get what he's saying. I've been absolutely overwhelmed with tours coming to my city since Covid to the point where it's almost like a job just to see bands that I like. But to give you an example, Judas Priest played here in the Chicago area like a week before the Hof induction. They only sold 1200 tickets out of 1600, and even had some t shirts for 65 dollars..
There are people who have something to tell in their songs... just like you did.
And nobody will hear them
Well it's all about WILL how much you desire to show Thyself to the world XD @@igniscarn19
Ah crap, I don't wanna get pulled into this difficult topic but I'll give you all a brief summary. When I was working long hours, I couldn't find a band. Got despondent. I decided not to be time poor and decided to be more creative. My job now doesn't take up so much time and I can devote efforts to music. I have an album (sold a few) working on two more and likely to have a third project. And I'm in my 50s. Yes, a bit late but feel like I've been given a second chance. Just give it a try.
There might be a million bands but only less than a handful that are worth listening to.
always room for innovation, but he is correct that the metal scene is crowded
I'm doing this, only as a drummer on Free time. I'm 35 years old...and drumming is my hobby... powodzenia w pracy...
I do music because i love it, appreciate where youre coming from, though, Nergal.
it takes a lot of courage and a great inner drive..if the young artist has what it takes to break through, he must do it..because it becomes a mission..without predestination, it's difficult
Its not about tours and shows
I met a bunch of musicians, people that were doing their job for years or decades, not earning even a minimal wage. I had my go 30+ yrs ago, no, I wont turn back, I play for my own pleasure, here and there I make some public appearance (not earning a penny), I make my life doing a decent job.
I get his point. Mediocre metal bands will just fail because they can't stand out among the thousands of bands competing for the space...We really don't need more of those. But if you have the talent, the creativity and you're willing to put in the hard work, then absolutely go for it.
Too late, I'm doing it, and I'm doing the hell out of it 🤘
He is saying to have some stability and do this as your hobby. If I was an amazing guitarist and band caliber, I would t quit my day job. He doesn’t want many people who are striving to be big to go down a bad path and destroy themselves financially and sell their souls for these corporations.
The process of weeding out
I kinda agree, but I'm mixed about it.
Question yourself: "How far do I and my bandmates wanna go? Do we do this for fun or fame? How much are we willing to put into the effort to making it?"
What he was getting at (not very clearly) is that it is a very difficult life and they make much less money than most people realise - unless you have known or spoken with professional musicians you will not know how difficult a life it is - easy when you are in your 20's but not in your 40's or older. Watch the bus invaders series and look at what bands in their 50's and 60's are doing to make a living - of course they are going to tell their fans they love it. Also, if a band does have some success they get locked into their 'brand' and rarely have any success doing something different.
Rest well nazdrwie brate
Lol, the fact that Behemoth has gotten such a broad stage and popularity contradicts what he says here directly
There’s lots of space here! 🤘
Very good advice, top notch.
Thank you.
He's right. I wont even listen to new music anymore. There's not enough time for all the music out there. The only thing that happns when i get new music is that i have less time for the music i already have
If nergal feels that way he should disband Behemoth forever
Malodorous and Infant Annihilator are an internet based band
Good Advice,I really like his honesty,his music has helped me see things I needed to see.Great Band...
Dont listen to him! You can start band for fun! Music is not about money. Music is not about fame. If you start a band with awesome people it will be so much fun! Even if you will play just in local show or in your garage to your grandma it can be really awesome!
It’s not that his opinion is incorrect. It’s the fact that it’s too extreme and generalized and is not, obviously, going to be applicable to everyone. Some people, solo artists or bands, will have it in their destiny to put out their talent out and be recognized and some won’t.
It will come back around, and something will break through the stagnant repetition eventually...... 🤟👹👍
Metal peaked in the 80s/90s. There's so much music already, i don't even bother with contemporary
Nergal zawsze dobrze
Than his band should stop simple if the world is over flooded with bands and shit .
his band might be doing well. there are many nobody bands.
😂😂😂. Yeah he should stop making music then. Wtf if you want to start a band then start it. Who gives a fuck about money and fame. Do it for fun
Nobody listen to Nergal. He's just upset there are amazing new bands nipping at his heels after re-writing the Diet Satanist again.
You and the 50 people that liked this are too stupid to get what he means.
Sorry you require a special helmet. Hopefully you recover soon. ❤
Where are those "amazing" bands... In you a hole.
And by this he means the arts in general.
Don' t crash on the wave, Loner. Learn the universe and be in foresight.
I understand this point of view.
I hate to say, but I think he's correct
I have seen this video and listened carefully before commenting.
Mr.Darski, how shallow of you to tell kids what to not do instead of what to do.
If someone wants to start a band, your duty is to support and convince that kid to be more skilful and work harder and harder...just like you did in your dog years.
Your arguments are lacking of valid points. Is dangerous on how you take irrelevant points and you merge them as they are relevant.
Is fine to feel angry, old and bitter ..probably the industry has screwed ya 360 in Dolby Atmos mode...but c'mon man...don't bring your misery over anyone who wants to grab a guitar or a pair of drumsticks...
But hey, then again..."Me and That Man"..... ;-)
He's partially right.
Bands are allocated a piece of the market which is funded by paying fans.
Say there are on average you're willing to spend 1000€ a year on metal albums, tickets, merch etc.
All the bands of the world are fighting over your 1000 (or 2). And there are too many bands now.
To prawda! "Wszyscy" pragną być artystami...a kto ma zapiera...ć na budowie, w szkole, fabryce czy w Lidlu....
I guess it depends on the part of the world You are living in. Here in South America is very important to persuade people about creating Metal bands, because Metal genre tends to fade out in time.
I'm a guitar player and I agree. If nobody is going to eat your food why would you cook?
I understand what he means . He admitted in one interview that despite of big promotion his second project "Me and that man" didn't earn enough money to keep it going . So I understand that he can feel now that he no longer understands the music business and he feels that he is forced to play in Behemoth because he can't do anything else .