Less $$$, MORE Performance - Dell XPS 15 2023 (9530) Review
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- The XPS 15 is "new" for 2023 with the XPS 15 9530 model but with an RTX 4070 upgrade in a thin and light laptop what happens to battery life and performance? And with a GPU like that is the XPS 15 worth it in 2023?
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0:00 - Wait a minute…CHEAPER?!
0:21 - Dell XPS 15 , 9530 the 2023 Edition
2:06 - If it ain’t broke…don’t fix it!
3:01 - OLED is cool BUT…
4:05 - Worst webcam of the YEAR?
4:56 - XPS 15 Upgrade Options
5:25 - Sponsor Spot
5:58 - Best Battery life!
6:29 - CPU Power, Frequencies, Temps & Noise
6:50 - GPU Power, Frequencies, Temps & Noise
7:14 - Real-World Benchmarks
8:38 - Gaming on the XPS 15
9:19 - Is the Dell XPS 15 Worth It?
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The cooling on dells is too terrible to get performance out of their components
The lower tier GPUs are the only ones that make sense in the 15”. Above the 4050 or so you’ll see diminishing returns due to the 40W TDP limit. The XPS 17 seems like a decent desktop replacement and has better cooling but unfortunately it’s considerably more expensive because it isn’t facing price pressure because there aren’t many other thin 17” desktop replacement laptops out there.
Don't get this for gaming, and don't waste your money on an i9 in this chassis. Its just too small, but the based nvidia GPU and an I7 are a great paring. More then that and there just isn't enough heat dissipation.
Always have been. Go buy a PC if you want maximum performance.
@@dylans2669 My 14" gaming laptop begs to differ. You can get better performance in a smaller chassis especially with 40 series. Dell just doesn't use any of the proper thermal solutions for the hardware.
yeah, but it is still cool to have such power in this small package.
I can easily just undervolt/power limit my cpu and gpu, and have a consistent gaming experience with it. 4070 + oled 3.5 display for just $2500 is actually some of the best deal we can have right now.
For those who are interested in this laptop but not at this moment I recommend getting it next spring/summer when it goes on clearance! I did that for mine and got last years with good specs for $1200 brand new
For those wondering, even the base screen option (FHD 1920 x 1200 IPS) is a piece of art - 100% sRGB color coverage, No PWM, and 1630:1 contrast ratio!
Lenovo ideapad pro series better. For that price you can get a razor with vapor cooling, a 16 inch mac, a lenovo oled etc
Yeah but no high refresh rate. Absurd that Dell didn't include it in this generation when it should have come last year. Deal-breaker in all honesty.
60hz in 2023 on a premium laptop that costs thousands of dollars kinda getting old don’t you think
@thraxberserker9960 60hz on OLED feels like 120hz from an LED LCD. OLED has practically instantaneous pixel response time and naturally very smooth motion. While I agree that for the price they should be doing better, you won't be disappointed with this display and it won't feel like you're used to seeing from 60hz.
@@pomster226 No, it doesn’t at all lol
60Hz at that price in 2023 is a deal breaker for me.
Same here.
Exactly.... my Asus VivoBook Pro has 120Hz OLED + RTX 3060 all for $1200 and Dell is still stuck at 60Hz for twice the price, what a disappointment
for the price yeah it must be atleast 144hz
@@LelouchRodriguez yeah. Even if not 144hz maybe LTPO like the new MacBook Pros 120hz
@@lars2894how’s the battery life with high refresh rate screen?
I've had my xps 15 for 3 years now...I've stayed up to date with firmware and cleaning and let me tell you, it is one of the best purchases I've ever made. The thing still crushes everything I throw at it, even light gaming. It has slowed a bit as you would expect from any computer, but it is still a fantastic machine. No complaints at all from me.
Must be only me,… had a glossy-reflective display on an HP ENVY Laptop once… but I applied a matte screen protector and loved it.
Just remembered it when Eber mentioned the OLED screen.
I have the 9520 from last year - I love it - i7 with 3050 - hits the sweet spot for me with performance I need for gaming (I don't need blazing fast performance, but can still play hogwarts at 40-60 fps on mid settings) and the battery is.. fine, I am interested in this new model with the i7 and the 4050 to see the battery life if that is better. All in all love the xps 15, other than the garbage webcam - its basically like it doesn't have one - I only use a usb webcam if I actually need it for calls.
Nice to see more efficient GPU's again. Obviously was a bit shit on desktop side for recent releases but laptops really are where 4000 series will shine I think. Trying to do 3070 with those powers would've probably been much worse result vs lower end GPUs of same gen at same power.
I just bought the one with 16gb ram and a 4050. The local Best Buy did not have the non-GPU sku in stock.
This thing is easily the best piece of consumer hardware i've ever touched.
I am getting the same. You still like it? Please say yes, it"s coming next week:)
I just orderd the Dell 9530 with the i9 13900H CPU,Nvidia RTX 4070,1TB NVme SSD and 64 GB of ram as my new mobile work station as a mechanical engineer and owner of a drone photography and videography company here in Toronto Canada.I am upgrading from a 2019 Dell XPS 15 which was my previous mobile work station.The other main aspect to consider is the customer service from Dellin comparison to that of Razer.
Good review. I would have liked to see performance numbers on the A370m model Both for price and value that appears to be the much more interesting variant. (Also it is on sale right now for $1,000)
I assume Dell only sent you the top spec, but if you can in the future track down base spec and mid specs it would be appreciated.
the value in macbook airs is really hitting dell it looks like, especially with the 15 coming out now. love competition
But XPS 15’s competitor is mainly macbook pro, not air.
@@JiajuChenMacBook pro M1 and even M2s can be had for cheaper than XPS
@@JiajuChen not really, yeah thats the target, but when the air comes that close in performance and everything else, a lot of people would save the money and get the air instead of the pro over this
@@bradhaines3142 The XPS's with nvidia hardware are vastly more expensive than the mac pros with the UHD panel (which you would need to get comparable specs). You could get the 16 inch m2 Pro, mid spec (upgraded storage, CPU) for *less* than the UHD 4070 model. That is insane.
edit; i misunderstood your response. ignore.
@@bradhaines3142 Then they don’t know what they actually need. Yes macbooks perform exceptionally well in video editing and stuff, but xps is targeted as power user who NEED that GPU and CPU performance in that thin Chassis.
As XPS user and macbook pro user, I know many buy them because they want them, but not because they need them. For those who need to do hard work except video editing, mba is simply not enough.
@HardwareCanucks What software are you guys using for visualization of the graphs/benchmarks? The visuals are really pretty.
I'm rocking with a 9500. Going to upgrade once there's a Meteor Lake model. Hyped for that next level of efficiency. Also, I love it that they didn't change the chassis. I do wish the battery was 75% bigger.
Yes Intel Core Ultra Meteorlake is coming.🥳🥳😱😱😎😎🤩🤩
U know when its out?
@@bunmeng007 yes. September 2023.
@@HDRPC thanks mate. definitely will wait for 14th gen intel. seems like a big upgrade
@@bunmeng007 yes.
As an XPS owner i have a few comments. First, at least in the past, buying a brand new 15" XPS ridiculously expensive. However, I have bought 2 refurbished XPS 15s that where both well spec'd for the time and have had good luck. The first needed a screen replacement (send it back just after receipt) that was replaced under warranty. I replaced the cooling fans and keyboard myself around the 5 year mark (it wasn't expensive). The second has not had any issues. Both are still going strong with the first being a 9560 and the second being a 9520. However, once any initial issues are fixed these things have great build quality which for me translates to long usable life. I use my laptops around 8 hours a day so they don't just sit on my desk looking pretty, i use them for work. Thus, buying a refurbished one is worth it to me. Performance wise though you have to accept that you are not getting the highest performance machine. Its just not. But its great for multitasking and general productivity use and holds up well. I have had MACs in the past as well and i think the XPS line and MACs are both in the same class build quality wise.
You can't go wrong with Dell laptops. I had one from 12years ago an Inspiron 14 with 2nd gen core i3. It served me for six years, everything was working fine until the charging port gave out.
I hope that the 2024 model will have an AMD ryzen CPU and a 120hz screen
The XPS and Precision lineup are Intel exclusive unfortunately
I have a Dell XPS 7590 which will turn 4 this year. My experience with it has been absolutely amazing. I think apart from the performance, the biggest advantage of a Dell XPS laptop is RELIABILITY. This laptop has not given me any issues since I got it. My next laptop is definitely going to be another Dell XPS for sure.
The biggest advantage is the out the box linux compatibility
I have a 7590 too and while I love the strong build quality, the thermals are horrible. I5 base model btw. My battery is in ok condition but needs a replacement but there are no replacements available. The quality of the fans are horrible. If a single hair gets in the fans it'll sound like a boat engine in a few weeks. I've also had quality control issues with an alienware laptop and my dad had a very poor experience with driver issues on an inspiron. Call me unlucky but if I'm going to buy an xps again thermals must be fixed, fans must be durable, needs basic IO not just usb c, and their software such as for controlling charging needs to be reliable. On paper, dell laptops sound perfect at a great price, but having experience with them is either underwhelming or frustrating
@@jackgowing1256 That's unfortunate. I guess the thermals and battery of my laptop are also not the same as they used to be either, but considering the machine is 4 years old, I'd say they are holding up pretty good. 90% of the time my laptop is connected to an external monitor so its not that much of an issue for me. I have heard that the new XPS I think the 17" one has a vacuum based cooling system or something so that should help. If they can build that in to the 15 inch version that would be ideal.
That’s what I thought as a serial XPS customer since 2009. Think again. Build quality, performance and support has plummeted in the last 3 years. Avoid.
2500$ "affordable" get real.
This has been on my mind for a while now. Do laptops need to be better every year or just different? because at least they get more expensive year over year.
Good review. Do more laptop reviews
The biggest complaints I've seen is that it is way too hot physically in the keyboard and palm rest areas, so uncomfortably hot that people joke about cooking on it (I do like the look though). This is why I went ahead and purchased the Legion Slim 7i Gen 8 maxed out; also as a side note, I don't like the Pro variant of the legion since they went with a lot of plastic unlike the Slim. Great video review! Cheers
Blame intel's processor.
XPS would have been so much better if they had AMD variants but nope, DELL has this special relationship with intel.
Another excellent presentation.
Disclaimer: I no longer consider purchasing Dell products, even though I was an early adopter (1990s-2000s) of their products and owned Dell stock for a number of years.
Great video, but I will admit I am confused lol. I have been looking for a new work laptop. I do graphic design and photo editing. I had eliminated the XPS 15 after reading about poor thermal performance and had settled on the Microsoft Surface Laptop 15. Recently with some newer 2023 models and someone suggesting the Inspiron 16 plus, I have given Dell some more thought (not to mention the Lenovo slim pro 9i 16" was once on my short list as well, funny enough you mentioned it in this video). Like I said, I am confused. Do you have any thoughts or advice on the models I have mentioned. Thanks in advance.
What would be the best competitor Windows laptop to the XPS 15 that is not a Mac or a bulky gaming laptop?
what other options do you suggest I look into
i recently picked up the 4060 and 13700h model refurbished for 1500 cad and holy crap i love it, battery life is fabulous for the specs and i am really really impressed with it.
What is the battery life
Cool wallpaper. Where did you get it?
Would be interested in some battery performance numbers. The biggest issue i have with by 9520 (and my prior 9560) was battery life. Obviously, I always want more but has there been any real progress on that front? BTW people, don't buy a 15 inch laptop with a 4k display. Your not going to be able to discern the pixels on a 1080p panel let alone a 4k panel and the 4k panel will significantly decrease your battery life.
disagree on the 1080p thing. However agree on the 4k one. I think 2.5k is a good compromise
These new dell laptops make apples macbook pros look like fantastic value. The upcharge for the "fake" 40 series laptop GPU's here is insane. 650 dollar difference from the Arc to the measly 4050 mobile. Holy shit. They even charge an arm and a leg for storage and RAM. What are they doing.
quick question. Having a powerful workstation, is the intel GPU enough to work with Premiere on the road? Mainly for proxies creation, dailies, and rough cuts editing (no long export) of log 4k files.
Great review. What do you think about the galaxy book ultra i9 variant? I hope you make a video about it. Thanks!
My favorite Windows laptop was Dell XPS 15 since 2020 but I feel like the new Lenovo Slim/Yoga Pro 9i looks better than the XPS while also performs better than the XPS
Oh, but those crappy Lenovo hinges that they refuse to admit have problems
Apparently real world battery is like 4 hours tho so
Sadly, 75WH battery will barely last for anything with those components inside.
No i5 option and no igp option is a real bummer. Imagine what the excellent battery life actually could have even been.
Indeed. These 12nd and 13th gen intel chips are getting really good, all paired with gen4 SSDs and DDR5 and the ever growing iGPUs in these chips, i feel like there's no need for crazy dedicated hardware for most users, in fact it is more desireable to have something like an efficiency processor variant instead of a high power one in these thin laptops.
And im tiping this from a 12700h/RTX Vostro.
A XPS with an i7 1360P or an i5 1350P would be enough and more efficient + a 2K display and im done. Im not gonna do 3D cad, renders or game on a thin laptop, i just want it to be efficient and snappy for the day to day stuff.
A professioal purchasing a 3800usd laptop under the justification of "professional work" and getting a GPU whose TDP is 50W and an i9 that will throttle in seconds is stupid, trust me, it doesn't work like that.
Any good alternative?
I think the Asus zenbook 14 pro Oled is really good option for for creators within this price range. Dell has been slacking since 2019, and I'm not surprised this Xps is any better.
This laptop you mentioned is not in the UK yet, I've searched for it for a while now
for real man i cant find It in Italy too
Is the WiFi Card upgrade-able? If so, is it keyed for A or E based WiFi cards?
What are better options for the base model price?
excellent testing and information as always. But guys those mouse click sound effects are mega annoying
Biggest problem with the XPS and it's precision cousin is that Dell stick to a pretty rigid 4 year cycle. They just insert the latest CPU/GPU generation with little regard to heat management and throttling. By the end of the cycle you end up with devices that struggle to deliver the performance effectively. Add into that the dated 720P webcam, no wifi 6E and limited display options on a $2.5k premium laptop. Effectively they don't even update the internal components e.g wifi card. If we wanted an XPS 95xx we'd be better off saving a chunk on one of the previous iterations as it wouldn't be that far off. Have they finally fixed the trackpad issues? Still a lovely device to own despite it's age and obvious limitations.
It is industry standard, around a 4-year design cycle. This is because, in a mature market like laptops, it is about survival more than anything else. Spending hundreds of millions on a new design every year or two has little upshot in sales numbers. Even Apple with the revolutionary Apple Silicon can barely break 10% of the market.
They should really offer a QHD IPS panel with a high refresh rate instead of that same 1200p panel which IMO is too low for an expensive laptop. I don't care about webcam quality so that's whatever but the screen you look at every day. And the biggest thing that has kept me from getting one is the terrible QC issues that I keep hearing about from everyone.
Which brand OEM for NVMe SSD does Dell use for this machine
Should I get the xps or the legion 5 slim 14” for music production
What other options would you explore? Should I get one of these around the $13-1500 mark or spend a bit more for a 2022 blade 15 advanced? I am a bit concerned about the blades battery though haha
Asus Zephyrus G15 / G16 / M16
if i was in the market, i'd get it. it's still the best option with the best build quality. but i'd wait till the chassis is updated so it can cool the cpu properly first. i'd get the next generation
The worst thing about Dells are the batteries - starts with limited performance even when new followed most likely by full depletion 2 years into usage. I know this from owning several Dells. And let's not forget the constant fan noise at the lightest tasks.
completely agree. My XPS13s battery became trash 3 years into ownership. Extremely disappointing for what you pay. And replacement batteries are a fortune too
What does the Arc A370M compares to other GPUs such as RTX and AMD in terms of performance?
i'd love to see a performance/watt as well as wh/ "minute runtime" chart.Seeing that some intel CPUs take more than double the power than the R9.
No almost same performance per watt. Intel is on Intel 7 node same as tsmc 7nm.
Amd is on Tsmc 5nm.
Intel Arrow Lake, Meteorlake and lunar lake will destroy amd and apple completely.
Intel owns Dell pretty much, they only offer AMD variants on shitty lower end PCs
is it actually gonna work for longer then a year?
Is the cooling any better? XPS have always felt like you're typing on lava after having them turned on for 30 mins. Also have they resolved all the sleep issues with this generation?
I am not sure if Dell has fixed it, but the XPS 9500 I am using has 1. color banding 2. Display freezing issue, search these before purchase
I would like to ask you about this Xps 15 touch screen. I do digital painting using Photoshop so is it easy to use a pen with the screen for that, please?
Going from the 3050 Ti to the 4070 was a HUGE upgrade! Unfortunate that now you can only get these things with the Arc A370M. They arent even the speed of the 1650 Ti we saw on the 9500!
Dell should offer an option with keypad model XPS
I have one xps 15 but the sharp edges on the machine is quite painful. Any solutions to that?
Would you be reviewing the 2023 Asus proart studiobook 16 Oled soon?
You should always show the internals else the review is complete. Ram slots & nvme slots really matter to me.
So for $2500 what would you recommend as a better option? Thanks for the review.
What’s the outlook for photo editing and photoshop?? I wanna get it for my photography business but don’t want to spend $1k if it’s not gonna work
I'd buy this laptop only if it had a vapor chamber cooling system. Rest looks perfect to me.
I have a 9250. I dislike the keyboard layout, particularly the stupid non-T arrow keys and the lack of actual buttons for home and end. I'm also not crazy about the touchpad.
Ive had about 6 genertions of XPS and last year switch to the M1 Mac 14 inch. I dont think ill ever buy another XPS laptop again. They need a redesign and AMD in it for me to consider it again.
Will get one as soon as they upgrade to 120hz or higher screen
The base specs is very tempting
Wish the oled wasn’t only in the highest config
That Webcam is a joke. Lord.
This vs the Premium HP envy 17.3" inch laptops with the i7 processor. Which is better?
I wish you'd review laptops with specs people actually buy.
For future video Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen 11 woild be a good idea. I would loke to know how it compares to the Gen 10 and the rest of the competition.
8:10 blade with orange bar😵💫
Why can't all laptops have a good front facing camera for calls? Like how hard can it be to implement it?
B14 looking very power efficient
I’m trying to leave the apple ecosystem after being it for one year, but I need a new laptop and a standard m1 air looks too good for my use case. I absolutely loved the display and speakers in my MBP that died. So much so, it is a priority next to battery life. That being said, the small things that just flow from having an iPhone and Mac make it that much better. Planning on buying the pixel 8 pro and maybe m1 Mac air 🤷♀️
I am comparing m1 air to the bone stock xps 15 option
oled is much better than miniled considering light bleeding. fingers crossed they release a 4k oled @120 Hz next year. although youtube is not supporting this framerate.
Does anyone know if there is an active stylus compatible for XPS 15 9530?
Problem is Dell is too comfortable , they know many people are going to buy their laptops regardless of new features or any improvements being made.I doubt the people who buy XPS devices check specs much and probably buy it because of aesthetics, probability and they trust the brand .Until this year the only competition they had was Apple and in windows the infamous Razer laptops.
Where's the review of the Lenovo legion slim 7i? @HardwareCanucks
How much wattage 4050?
When is the Zephyrus G14 review coming?
When will you review Hp Envy 16? you didn't review the 2022 model as well. Please consider reviewing it. There are not much reviews on that laptop out there and that laptop is amazing btw.
Dell XPS are great laptops, but Dell support is dog s**t, and simply a deal breaker. Sent in my 9520 to fix a broken trackpad, and when Dell sent it back, there are screws rattling around inside the computer and they stripped the crap out of the bottom screws.
Does the dell xps 15 9530 supports 5600mhz ram? or only 4800mhz?
The XPS 17 version has vapor chamber cooling and lower temps
That price point makes for better options to be considered. I picked up a 9510 with the 3050ti on clearance for $900. After spending another another $220 I was able to take it from 16gb to 64gb and an additional 2TB SSD and run anything I throw at it when I edit on the go or game in down time.
how did you upgrade ram on it??
@@nighthemX same as any other upgradable laptop. Take the back plate off, waste money on first set of RAM finding out Dell isn’t compatible with Corsair, then put 64gb of Crucial RAM in it.
$900 for one with a 3050 Ti is a steal, great find.
I do not know how you got the performance of Lenovo Slim Pro 9i 16. The one I bought from Costco was very slow. I was so excited when I bought it. I was immediately disappointed after I first booted it up. I just couldn't believe it was so slow for its high spec. I intended to replace my 6 years old laptop with this one. But it is not smoother that the old one. I tried to improve its performance by disabling BitLocker. It improved a little bit but still slow. Is it just the Costco model? I doubt that Slim Pro 9i 16 from other sources are very different.
are they still making the XPS 13 line? I feel I haven't seen a new model in a while beside the "plus" model.
Yeah and it's been upgraded too
I would like to ask you about this Xps 15 touch screen. I do digital painting using Photoshop so is it easy to use a pen with the screen for that, please? Is it better to buy the touch screen one or without for a longer lifetime use? Thank you
Dell touch screen lately has problem with a leak glu fluid between touch and lcd.
Do any of the laptops you compared the dell have a proper haptic touchpad? Or are they all like Dell still using crappy diving board style in 2023?
Speaking of the Lenovo Slim Pro 9i... When do reviews drop? XD
Still thinking with so many better options out there, who is still buying the XPSs? Once you start using bright 120hz displays and get overall performance better than XPSs, it gets more and more difficult to go back to it.
Dell needs to at least give the opportunity to crank the performance of the 4070 in the bios
I wish there's an update about that base model with intel gpu cuz might be buyin this but im concerned about the GPU's drivers, optimization and whatnut🤷🏻♂️
Intel core ULTRA Meteorlake is coming
@@HDRPC bruhv I ain't gonna wait for something for a year just for something with a significant price hike while the good deal is already in front of my eyes😮💨
@@donnieChii if you got deals so buy.
If you can wait for 3 to 4 months so meteorlake is coming in September 2023. Massive upgrades are coming.
I wish there was a 15 inch that was foldable
This used to be the Windows laptop for creators. That is no longer the case, and Dell is the only one to blame for it. At the 2500 dollar price point there are many different options to think about, but you also need to look at what you get. In 2023 a laptop of this caliber needs to have at least HDMI 2.1 and a 120 Hz screen, I am certain next year will be the reveal, and in January 2024 I can see it best in class at CES. If Dell keeps going with this mentality of: "Nobody can touch us" they will have their cake eaten and then some.
NOV 22 2003. No touchscreen on one I have. And good to have SD slot, but card sticks out 1/3 of the way. Better than others which the card only goes IN 1/3 of the way. But on any portable electronics this should not be. Why did the whole PC laptop makers all change this?
This is the unit from a large photo and electronics store. I should have bought direct for other features and upgrades. For a price.
Why would you compare with other laptops that are running 13900k?
I have a 2019 MBP, but the XPS has always caught my eye. If the MacBooks keep rocking that hideous notch. I'll switch over to XPS once software support ends for me.
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Shame the 4070 card is limited to 50w making it way less powerful than other laptops in the same category. Hoping they get a new cooling design next year so the full performance can actually be used.
Battery life is already limited, I would keep it at 40w even if thermals improved. To me the xps is a productivity laptop and shouldn't be tethered to the wall. I had a 7590 with a 1650 and I just feel that I wouldn't be happy. Maybe on a 17 inch it would be more appropriate since it is less portable
@@jackgowing1256 then I'd much rather get the 4060 model. No reason to pay a premium for a card you cant use
In laptops with highet tdp, you can always just limit the tdp as well, or turn of the dgpu and use the igpu
Hopefully Dell makes a XPS 14 and XPS 16 with the new Meteor Lake CPUs, 100 watts 40 series GPU, 14" 3K/16" 3.2K MiniLED 165Hz screen and better webcam
They will have to squeeze in 99WH battery too otherwise it would suck on battery with all that you are asking.
1499 CAD now with i7 and 4060 (no point to go higher with 40 w limit). 400 CAD to get 64 gigs of good ram and 2nd ssd. Personally i found it to be best on a market now.