Micro Forestry Winter Firewood Cutting With Kubota Power and Kranman Timber Trailer -E110
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- čas přidán 13. 02. 2022
- Jason heads to the woods with the Kubota x1100c RTV to cut some semi-tree length hardwood. He cuts it in 10 to 12 foot lengths so that he can forward it back to the yard with the Kubota B2601 tractor and the Kranman T1750 Hydraulic Timber Trailer. With 2 feet of snow on the ground, it was pretty tough getting around in the woods. He had to take the Komatsu wb150ps backhoe into the woods to pull down a snag... what a day. Micro-Forestry at its' best!
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I was noticing how slow and smooth the rotator went and I liked it.
It has a flow control valve on it and I have it turned way down. Makes the crane control more smooth for sure.
17 below here Fahrenheit this morning I could sit here and watch these type of videos all day 27 below yesterday morning
Ha Ha... I went to the woods so you don't have to! Take care, Jason.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ..
Any time!
Man that trailer is slick. Good day in the woods👍
It was a good day for sure. Love it back in there! Thanks for watching, Jason.
Sliding the claw like that is done even by professional forwarder drivers. As long as you do it like in the video where the forces are not pointed towards you it is all good.
I agree with the guy who encouraged you to put the camera on a tripod and letting your wife load the trailer. Women often have a very deft hand at this. Especially as you have adjusted the flow on the swing.
As for why use the trailer.. You get more done and not being worn out in the evening, or the next day, is an enormous plus. You get much more done that way. Mechanization is a blessing.
Agreed Rolf! I know the gear is expensive but I do get a lot more done with it and it is a pleasure to operate so I find myself looking for reasons to go to the woods rather than reasons not to go. The woodlot is starting to look better too as a result. Karen doesn't mind filming but I think it will be a while before we see her on the Kranman controls!!
hey Jason, why use the kranman logtrailer on such small timbers? The answer is quiet simple why not!
Over here in the Netherlands we say , everything you can do with oil pressure you don"t have to do with blood pressure;-)
Now that is a great saying! I may have to work that one into a future video!! Might save my pump too!
Thats an awesome setup! Thanks for sharing!
You bet. Thanks for stopping by! Jason
I like how you use the trailer to load the log deck. Full load.
Thanks. It seems to be a pretty good little setup! There is about a half of a cord in a trailer load and that is usually three deck loads to process it through.
Kubota time is a good time! Thanks for posting Jason.
You bet! Thanks for stopping by!
Great video, Jason. It looks like you had a nice day to get things done. Equipment that can make you money is always a good investment. Cheers. Scott
Thanks for stopping by Scott. We are pretty lucky to have some of this gear now. I wish I had more time to operate it! Jason
Slow and steady is always better that cold weather is rough on stuff steel can crack like glass in it great job great video
Thanks for the feedback. I finally figured out how to load my 4k videos up to CZcams in 4k! Hopefully the quality keeps getting better and better for you guys....
Very productive day Jason, as long as you recognize that a task has risk factors that's when experience helps with being safe.
Hi Mark, I had visions of things going wrong and not being able to get out of the way. That snow is well over my knees in some places! Take care, Jason.
@@OakMountainAcotts snow here the same, I have trees to skid maybe this week with warm up.
Very nice job, and beautiful place!
Thanks for watching our video! We love it here but I must admit, the Winters seem to be getting colder and I can't wait for Spring! As long as I can get into a heated cab, I'll be okay... Take care, Jason.
Man I love that log trailer
It was a really great purchase.... took a gamble and it seems to have paid off!
that move is actually safe i was on a timberjack 810b forwarder and we do it alot and mainly to straigthen up grapple loads with smaller logs so the stacks are better in the end
Thanks for the feedback! I'm still finessing my technique but I actually picked it up from watching the professionals do it on CZcams! Take care, Jason.
Nice vid Jason! You have more snow than us for sure, we haven't had the lake effect snow that we typically get, but winter isn't over and Lake Michigan is still pretty clear of ice (which means more snow). Love watching the Kranman in operation! Stay safe, spring is on its way! Best, Ed
Thanks Ed! We just received another Winter thaw and lots of rain so I think we are down to about 1 foot left. Now we are back in the deep freeze but you are right, Spring is coming... Maybe some crust out there now which makes cutting hardwood pretty nice! Take care, Jason.
Your little maneuver… nothing wrong with that. You are smooth and safe loading the trailer. I’m thinking it’s time for your wife to tripod the camera and load the trailer while you cut more. 👍 love watching your videos.
Thanks Laurie, Karen hasn't tried the trailer yet but both boys have. Not sure why they won't come to the woods with me very often.... I would have been there everyday if I had gear like that to operate. One thing I have learned though is to not pressure them or make them go with me, I think they will come around to appreciate it as they grow older. I'm hopeful anyways!
@@OakMountainAcotts you are a wise man. Keep them coming. 👍
@@alittleofthisandalittleofthat I don’t know about that but I’ll keep making videos!
Nice setup! I also know how easy it is to upset the trailer! I lift more than I should before I get some ballast laid between the bunks.
Hi Jeff, I ran this behind my ATV the first winter and it would actually stay on top of the crust. I didn't think about the added weight pushing a stabilizer through the crust and mine was over on its' side before I knew what happened. Good thing I had the hydraulic winch on the boom, that was the only way to bring her back over!
I was also surprised that you ended up with a full trailer load of logs. It's almost time to setup the firewood processor again and start making firewood.
That was a great bunch of wood in that little growth of trees. Wouldn't it be nice to have 100 acres of that stuff! I need a lot more wood in the yard before it is time to fire up the processor!!!
Surprised you don’t have bigger threes, is this early second growth ?
This property was cut in the 60's and then again in the 90's. I guess we are the owners that are trying to restore the forest here. I'm not a big fan of clear cuts and that is part of the reason we have what we have here. Our focus is to take out the inferior trees and leave the best for the next generation!
Excellent video as always Jason. The previous ones very much gave me the decision basis to choose Kranman over Avestavagnen or other less premium hydraulic wagons. Much like you I look at the safety aspect a lot and try to minimize the risks working alone in the forest. Regarding the log regrip I try to avoid straining the equipment to avoid unnecessary wear or damage, it’s a bit more fragile than larger forwarders.
I bought my Kranman a month ago and the hydraulics are still way too fast for me to handle without decent armrests so a tutorial on how to reduce the flow would be nice. Keep up the good work my friend 👍🪵
Not sure why I am just seeing your comment now? Anyways, thanks for the note and the channel support we really appreciate it!
Hey Jason, another great video. I see that maneuver done on Kranman videos a lot. I think it’s the operators experience that makes safe or not, and from the looks of it you do it very well. Wish I could get a machine like that down here in the states.
Thank you Sir! We had a great afternoon in the woods and I think the Ash tree that was left will have some beautiful logs in it someday! Take care, Jason.
How's she goin'? Nice work getting those trees. Nice that you can pick and only take the ones you want. Where I am, the pulp companies would come in and clear everything. Now we have no wood for 20 years!! BTW, I didn't think your maneuver to get the logs balanced in the grapple was dangerous. Pretty handy on the crane if you ask me!! Thanks for sharing and take care!!!
Hi Mike, looking back over the years, I would have to say that I am pretty disappointed with the "management" of NB forests. Forestry techniques are largely controlled by the big companies and it seems that clear cutting is still the preferred style as it must be the most lucrative financially... too bad really and I hope that we can start to change this mindset going forward! Thanks for stopping by, Jason.
@@OakMountainAcotts I agree. Here in NS not only do we have, and did we have, clear cutting but the same species would be replanted. Now all the forest is the same age and the same species for the most part. And some sort of bug is killing the pine trees so there are many many acres of pine forest that is totally dead. But hey, they know best eh!!! NOT!!!
Thanks for sharing Jason, really good tip on clearing all that wood around a main tree trunk. Quick question, how do you clear the snow on your trails? Best, David and Rachel from CFS
Hi guys, thanks for stopping by the channel! We keep the snow cleared with the backhoe and the Kioti ck35 with snowblower. Normally not a big deal but we received 3 big storms in 14 days with each one bringing at least a foot of snow. We almost abandoned the trails! Now diesel fuel is at an all time high $1.76/liter CDN so we are hoping that the big snow storms are behind us for this year! Take care, Jason.
@@OakMountainAcotts we are also ready for the weather to turn!!
My short term plan is putting on by hand, but I'm also 15 years younger, in which time I expect to find a similar solution.
Hi Craig, I'm not sure what is going on but those poles seem to be getting heavier every year! Thanks for stopping by, Jason.
Great video, Jason! A question: how far from the cleared road (i.e., where the Kubota and Kranman can pull up alongside the downed sections) do you cut trees in wintertime, considering the snow? Do you use a logging winch for trees that are further off the road, and if so, how far is practical with 2 feet or so snow?
Hi Mike, we would normally use the winch on the Kranman in the Winter time. The biggest reason being that the farmi winch is on the International 414 which starts hard in the winter and is only 2 wheel drive. I'll work away in the snow until it gets 12" deep and then usually wait for the rains and crust this time of year to go back. Wading snow is tough and not as safe as it should be in my opinion. We have spur roads all around the property so my winch pulls are usually 50 feet or less. Hope this helps! Jason
What we think? Tractor with processor and a trailer or some of the combi-machines. It's dangerous to cut down the trees with a chainsaw, it's safer to do it from a heated cabin 🤭😂... Working with only socks on in a sweatshirt is nice 😎.
And NO, there is nothong wrong in readjusting the grip. The wood is on the side of the trailer, hhere is yhe crane in the middle and the logs (right word?) are not that big. Would it have been a 500mm (~18 inch) five meters (~16 feet) and you would have managed to get in it's end, then it would have been another "game".
You do it good 👍🏼😋!
Thanks for the feedback Johannes! I sure hope that a Combi processor is in my future... I guess it all depends on how good this CZcams channel does!!! Thanks for your support, Jason.
that is awesome that you have ash trees!!!!!! What other type of hardwood do you have in your area?? Love your equipment!!!!
Hi Tyler, we have quite a variety. Ash, maple, oak, beech, iron wood, elm, yellow birch, white birch, etc. Not a lot of hardwoods in your area?
Hey man awesome video, what does one of these trailers cost? I usually use my new Holland skid steer to load wood into my dump bed truck, but dam does that look like a fun toy to play with
Thanks for the feedback! These trailers are in the $20k range with options. There are cheaper trailers out there but I think the engineering on these units is pretty good!
@@OakMountainAcotts yeah for sure one of my favorite features is the self drive on the trailer, really makes a huge difference in snowy, muddy, slippery conditions. I only cut firewood for my fireplace and wood stove so I couldn't justify getting one, but dam what a cool piece of equipment
Would be an expensive toy for sure! Fun to operate and quite reliable. I must have brought out 150 cords with it by now… I have lost count!
That was a good harvesting spot there! Those sure aren't the biggest trees, but if you were to lift them all to load them, you would end your day a bit more tired!!! There are sure people that claim they can do that, day after day. Good for them!!! I prefer to save my body joints to enjoy doing this until my late age. That small manoeuver at 21:30 does not seem unsafe to me. I've just found it does not work well for me. Most likely because I am not as a good operator as you are! Have you ever hung the loose hydraulic hose loop on a bunk? (reference at 22:10). I've once hit the grapple hose connection below the rotator on a log and cracked the fitting. I was losing hydraulic fluid big time. Had to go back to the garage to weld it on a Sunday afternoon. Seems the weld was good because it never leaked after that! Anyways, that made me realize that it's not a bulletproof machine and needs a careful operation! Thanks!
Hi Joe, thanks for hanging in there for the whole video! Those hydraulic hoses accommodate the extended boom. I think on the bigger machines they have changed the design so that they are on the top of the crane instead of the sides. I try to be quite careful with where I put the grapple. I have replaced a couple of hydraulic hoses so far (different locations) and they are expensive plus, they usually fail on the weekend when I can't get a another built. I'm getting smarter though, I purchased an extra hose for one that failed and hung it on the wall. Now if I had one for every different length on the machine, I would be good to go! Take care, Jason.
That is my fear that one hose fail and I can't move the logging trailer out of the woods. I would hate working on that machine in the snow!!!
*Maneuver Unsafe*
Do to the material size I would say definitely NOT Unsafe.
The equipment is nice. It's a good thing money isn't a concern.
*Ref the Hand Loading Option*
If that size wood was cut into 4ft long, it could probably be loaded onto the trailer by hand just as quick or quicker, but the wood would have to be piled right by the road so you could load it right onto the trailer with a wood hook.
Thanks for the feedback. We are lucky to have our equipment. It has taken a lifetime to get to this point and we are closing in on 50 years old now. Thanks for watching!
That move is completely unsafe for someone that is new to these type of machines... but as you learn the controls and limits of the machine it is perfectly safe to operate in such a way
Agreed! I remember when I first bought it, I was handling some white birch poles (a whole load) and I thought I was better than I actually was. I ended up losing a birch pole that ended up going through the front fender of my Honda ATV and just missed the hydraulic power pack on the front of the Honda! That was a lesson for sure!
I HOPE YOU DONT MIND ME ASKING . BUT DID THE TRAILER COST..
Hi Gordon, those trailers are a little over $20k.
Bonjour Jason super remorque je suis de France ou l as tu acheté et a quel prix
merci super video
Thanks! These trailers are made by Kranman in Sweden. You will need to check their website for distributors in France. Around $20k!
How does it do off the trail in the snow?
Not as good as you would think. Good chance of getting stuck I think.
I think the guy who commented is jealous you got McDuck money to buy fancy stuff.
I guess we are pretty fortunate to be able to have some of this gear. We went for a long time without it! Thanks for watching.
Hi Jason: Nothing unsafe in my eyes. The Kranman is a great piece of equipment. Since Kranman can’t be brought into the USA, I’m really struggling to find a good forwarding trailer that will fit our operation.
Thanks Richard. If I was moving up to a larger unit, I think I would compare the Kranman to a Farma or a Kesla. I wouldn't buy one without some sort of drive system (you use it more than you think), extended boom and the hydraulic winch. Take care, Jason.
@@OakMountainAcotts Thanks - I looked at Farma, unfortunately you can only get the drive system for very large units.
@@richardbrowne1679 Yeah it sucks as far as i know you only get drives in the very small atv trailers or very huge big tractor units :D nothing for a small tractor trailer (3-4 tonners). Kranman is nice but about 50% more money than other brands in the same size bracket.
I think Kranman makes 1 size larger than my unit that is intended for 30-40 hp tractors but they are pricey. Take care.
@@OakMountainAcotts Yeah there is :) but the one estonian brand has about twice capable crane and the price is really interesting :) and forstman (really tiny company) also makes some that look more like a multitools when you can setup the cranes and trailer whatever way you like..even radio controls :D
Hey Jason, doe you replant?
Good question. All the mature trees in that forest have been dropping seeds for decades. You may notice several saplings just waiting for clear sky when a larger tree comes down.
And it is carbon neutral because the wood carbon is already in the biosphere, cycling, unlike "locked" fossil fuels.
Well done Jason, you can select cut trees like that forever....
Hi Michael, we planted about 10 acres of spruce and fir back in the late 90's. We bought seedlings and we also pulled natural root stock for those plantings. In my experience, if the land can regenerate naturally, it will come better than planting however, if the ground didn't regenerate, I would certainly consider planting it. We try not to clear cut on our property, select cutting and leaving the best is our motto!
Excellent observations Nigel. We have had a lot of pre-commercial thinning done on the property over the years so the natural regeneration is coming along nicely. As you noted, we are trying to select cut and leave the nicest trees to grow into mighty giants... hopefully the boys keep this practice going long into the future!
@@OakMountainAcotts awesome, I was just curious on your process with that
TELL HIM TO COME WORK AT YOUR PLACW AN SEE HOW LONG HE LAST OR HOW MONEY HE WANT TO WORK LOL
It is hard work!
Even if you could load it by hand, why would you…lol
I agree.... I've loaded my fair share of wood on by hand over the years... this is a lot more fun!
@@OakMountainAcotts indeed I loaded pulpwood for years by hand on back of wagon, I’ll take this any day…lol
IT LOOKED SAFR TO ME . BUT YOUR THE ONE USEING THE MACHINE . AN THATS NOT A COP OUT . JUST YOUR THERE I AM NOT .
I think it was fine. One wrong move can get expensive though!