Safely run electric cables for your house extension, certifier tests, connects at end.
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- You don’t need an electrician to lay your cables, you’ll not only save a fortune by doing it yourself, you’ll be able to progress with the project without waiting for them to turn up. Of course, you’ll have to INVOLVE A CERTIFIER AT THE OUTSET, and agree your routes and cable sizes with them, which I go through how to do in the video link below….and then you can do the lions share of the work yourself, GETTING THE CERTIFIER BACK TO CONNECT AND TEST THE SYSTEM TO THE MAINS AT THE END.
You’ll notice there are a lot of comments from some electricians who have kindly taken the time to add some feedback in their own special way. Most of it is either inaccurate, off topic, and just reflects their opinions, rather than what the actual legislation allows for the self builder, which is a shame since I was hoping they could add some more constructive criticism, but have a read and make your own mind up. My aim is to give you the facts in relation to what the regulations allow, and let you decide, rather than terrorising you with a load of stuff about my opinions on whether you’re aware that electricity can kill. Your certifier will guide you through the aspects of safety and the regulatory aspects, whilst my video gives you the overview of the process.
I’ve tried to address the points these electricians make in this video.
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great stuff.. thank you for creating very useful content.
You are my guide. Thank you.
nice video ! I would run the boiler spur in 2.5 though as it gives you more options in the future and doesn't really cost much more. just my opinion. keep them coming love your channel
Yes, great point. I did think about speaking about the future proofing aspect, especially for heating options, but I decided to keep it simple for this, primarily to illustrate what’s usually involved for a typical home extension project.
@build-better-things great stuff keep them coming
Absolute zero need to run in 2.5mm
@@James_scott86 why?
Well done. power to the DIY'er. all the trades are only in a huff because they cant rip you off!
Building inspector needs electrical certificate to sign off extension , most sparkies are not allowed to sign off other peoples work . Them days have gone
Thanks, for the comment… but didn’t I mention the need for an electrician? And this was just for first fix once you’ve agreed the design with your certifier. I went through it in a bit more detail here
How to install electrics and wiring for your house extension yourself - step by step
czcams.com/video/E9MZsHenNPE/video.html
The people who carry out the installation works should be the same person who signs the certificate at the end to say he/she has carried out the installation works .
False and incorrect information. Please stop posting your opinion as if it’s fact. Please watch the video link I sent you above to get your head around it.
@@build-better-things it is a fact! The best thing you can do is get off CZcams and contact the NICEIC if you don’t believe me! . You are falsely filling in a certificate if somebody else has done the installation . You have to also notify the local authority if you install a new circuit . This is why only competent qualified electricians should carry out electrical installations in the uk . That’s why there are rules and regulations. To improve quality and safety of workmanship in the uk . The reason we have any rules is to make things safe . Videos like this that encourage people to break them rules are just talking nonsense.
Please go and read the legislation. On notification, all my videos emphasise that, so why are you mentioning it. Watch my video.
0:08 You can wire your house if you are a "...."Competent Person: 'A person who possesses sufficient technical knowledge, relevant practical skills and experience for the electrical work undertaken and is able at all times to prevent danger and where appropriate, injury to him/herself and others'...." also knows how to safely design electrical instalation. Seen electricians with many years of experience that could not be defined as a competent people. Wouldn't call this creator competent either after listening to some advice given on this channel.
This is actually what the regulations say, From Part P Clause 3.5
“…. an installer who is not a registered competent person may appoint a registered third-party certifier to inspect and test the work as necessary”. Which is exactly what the video is saying, all the way through. You confuse the issue of competency and your negative opinions of me with what the regulations actually allow. You’re just reinforcing all the points I make in my other video regarding false information and scaremongering. Maybe you should do a little more homework next time ?
What about the 2 people who got sentenced for manslaughter following shoddy electrical work ? Part of the investigation looks at whether the installer was competent :-
there was a level of appreciation that he was not competent to carry out the electrical work he was contracted to perform, yet he still chose to perform it and in doing so put multiple people at risk,
This is why only competent people should carry out such tasks . Even the cable manufacturers clearly state on their drums clearly ‘ this should only be installed by competent people .
It’s fair to say that if you need to revert to CZcams for advice how to wire an extension that you are not competent.
@@build-better-things you are the one getting the wrong idea , as one of your other people have commented and I agree you are just using manipulation tactics to make you look the good guy ! That case I was reverting to was an electrical installation where a guy had signed off someone’s work saying it was safe , in fact there was no earth connected in some points of the installation /badly connected earth and no 30 ma rcd present . This led to a death of an innocent member of the public . I am trying to put across the seriousness of electrical installation. No one is scaremongering here it’s taking responsibility for your actions . These is real life scenarios not stories. People have been killed seriously injured in the past due to incorrectly installed electrics . This is why we have electrical regulations . Yes I am a qualified electrician and yes I am registered as an installer to the niceic .
If anyone falsely signs inspection certificates, then yes, they should go to prison. Since I can’t really understand the points you’re trying to get across, other than you don’t like the idea of what the regulations allow, I’m just going to have to leave it at that.
@@build-better-things they are falsely signing it if they aren’t doing the work , what part of that don’t u understand ??
Excerpt from Part P of the building regulations, Clause 3.5
“…. an installer who is not a registered competent person may appoint a registered third-party certifier to inspect and test the work as necessary”
Are you sure you’re registered? It doesn’t look you understand the legislation from your comments.
@@build-better-things u chat absolute bullshit mate ! Making up regulations to suit yourself 😂🤦♂️ not very bright . It all boils down to the simple fact that if you knew what you were doing then why are you going to an electrician in the 1st place??? Just go ahead and get on with the job yourself !
Can you do this yourself - yes, are you allowed to do this yourself - no, have you made mistakes - yes, would I sign off somebody else’s work - no, is your home insurance now void - yes. 😂
What in the video, exactly, are you not allowed to do? Why, exactly, would I ask someone like you to get involved to sign anything off. I only choose to have helpful people working with me. How exactly is anybody’s home insurance going to be made void by following what is shown in the video?
@@build-better-things Notifiable work and you're not a qualified electrician so you will need to get one in to sign your work off. You might get someone sketchy to sign it off for you but any decent electrician would not.
@@paulbb27 What?
@@Lolable are you telling me you’ve not heard of part p????? At the end of the day buddy if you’re not competent at installing electrics in your house without adequate training you seriously shouldn’t be touching it . I don’t think you people realise how serious things can get if you get it wrong . If you as an electrician have signed off someone else’s bodge up and someone dies as a result of being electrocuted them you are going to prison for manslaughter . It’s not a game . It takes experience and knowledge to design a circuit and certainly not something I would recommend for a novice .
@@paulbb27 I don't understand why you commented "Part P???" when you clearly don't understand it. Are you an unregistered electrician and that is why you are carrying out this work by yourself? If so did you notify the council before starting the work like you are supposed to? I understand that this needs doing as I am not a diyer like you I am a qualified electrician which is why I don't like how you are telling people that they can do this work themselves when they clearly can't. Also what you said about electricains loving testing other peoples work as it's an easy job is a complete lie. I have been contacted in the past by people like you who have done work themself and then can't get it tested because nobody wants to put their name to the work. The only time I have ever signed off someone elses work is when a local spark died and had left a job half done. And even for that job I had to make some changes because there were some things I didn't like. Stop spreading misinformation and putting people at risk.
What a load of rubbish ! You need an electrician to understand the current regulations, calculations for cable sizes & experience. You can watch these silly videos thinking you know it all but things chsnge all the time . Experience means a lot .
From my experience most people who have a play with electrics like this often mess things up , builder often ends up taking down boards etc to fix problems people make . If you don’t have experience on designing and installing electrics thrn don’t do it .
You are actually breaking the law if you arnt Part P registered aswell .
Finally good luck to finding an electrician to sign it off ! Most qualified electricians won’t sign off other peoples work , it’s not with it for them? Why would they put their name to something they haven’t done???
Not worth the hassle just to save getting an electrician in the 1st place ..
I don’t think you watched my vids because I mention and explain the need to involve a certifier for the self builder, from design through to testing. Your statement about part P is false, I think maybe you need to watch my other video here.
czcams.com/video/IF8Dg2HGLw8/video.html
Stuff like this should be banned giving little knowledge to the general public could have some catastrophic consequences! Would you mess about with a gas main?
No one is saying here that they are messing about with the mains electricity. He clearly states that there is a need for an electrician to test and certify the work. In my experience there are decent electricians who like the fact that the graft is done and they can wire to the consumer unit with clearly marked cables. We all know that gas mains needs to be worked on by a certified gas engineer although it’s possible to pipe up to the main and have the engineer test and connect etc.
What should be “banned”…exactly? What do you mean “little knowledge”? No, I wouldn’t “mess about” with a gas main. What are you babbling about?
No mention of metal fixings 🤦♂️ as part of the 18th edition you are required to use metal fixings to prevent premature collapse of cabling in the event of a fire, there is no mention of this in your video , volt drop , grouping factors , the design mentions no size of the ring main all these factors need considering when designing an installation.
There’s a lot I don’t mention. It’s why I do mention the need to get a registered certifier in at the beginning, during, and then at the end, in these videos. Thanks for pointing the things you mention and thanks for the comment.
@@build-better-things good luck in finding any sparky that wants to do all that 😂🤦♂️ sounds like a load of nonsense to me
@@paulbb27 You are hard work mate - im exhausted just reading your comments. Anyway, in my experience, those types of sparks are actually fairly easy to find. Many a spark I have dealt with over the years are pretty relaxed about working with a 'competent installer' to undertake many aspects of first fix - saves them having to come to site constantly to run in a simple little cable here and there and keeps the job moving forward nicely. They discuss the runs with you at the start, maybe a couple phone calls to clarify a couple of things half way through if needed and then they second fix it and sign it off at end - simple and done it hundreds of times for small extensions and stuff. Important to keep this advice in context: this advice/channel is mainly for small domestic extension jobs - no one is wiring the notre-dame catherdral here.
@@mrnobody9227 hard work? No mate just covering my a**e & fed up with dealing with bodgers , if you are such a competent installer why not do the lot yourself? Save the expense of an electrician then ! Don’t get why ur only wanna do the ‘runs’ as u put it & expect someone else to finish it off . I don’t know anyone who would be happy to let people who arnt qualified to have a go & sign off their work , there’s no excuse , you’re either qualified and competent to do it or you’re not 🤷♂️
@@mrnobody9227 listening to this crap is hard work especially after you’ve been to several years of courses, done ur am1 & am2 then u listen to this complete tool banging on about anyone doing electrical work 😂 😂Clueless 🤦♂️