The biggest difference though is that most UK people don't care about guns and don't want one, or want to be around one. It's more about culture than the law. We would never buy one as a gift, especially for kids. And we look down on people who glorify them. If someone you know says they want to own one, your first question would be "why?"
Why you don't look down on people who like guns? I am from Germany and i have guns and we have the same problem, because allot of people have allot of stereotypes if it comes to people who like guns. I love guns and i have a few and there will be more in the future, but i am not grazy or something like that i just love the technical things about them and i absolutely love to shoot. But i have a few controvertial thought about guns, in my opinion everyone (who has passed a psychological test and has not criminel record, or atleast nothing wich goes over stealing a candy bar in a supermarket as a teenager) should have the right to own guns. Just because the police cannot protect you, yeah you can call the police after someone robbed you or while someone is breaking into your house but they are there after everything happend. If it comes to kids they should no have guns but it should be legal at 14 to shoot if there is someone watching with the guns of the parents or of a rifle club. It is possible with 14 in germany but only .22 and with 16 you can shoot shotguns but for everything else you have to be 18.
Hi Ryan I'd just like to say, I'm a 62 year old English man, raised in the city of Liverpool, UK. In my entire life I have never, ever, knowingly, known anyone who has ever owned a gun. Seriously. I have never, ever, known anyone who has been shot, nor a family member of theirs. I honestly don't think I've even ever heard the sound of gunfire in my entire life. The only time I ever came into contact with a gun in my life was in a hotel in Cairo, Egypt. I sat on a sofa in the reception and found a handgun on the seat. Walking across to the reception with it in my hand to say "I think someone left this behind" was one of the scariest moments of my entire life. How the fuck do you live your day to day life, not knowing that the person sat across from you in a bar or restaurant might just have a gun on them? Seriously, open access to guns is an issue. Which experience would you prefer in your day to day life?
Hey there, Norwegian here, I can say the same. Only shot a bb gun at tin boxes at my uncle and aunts cabin once but I didn’t really like it. I don’t know about anyone who has been shot or seen anyone shoot a real gun. Until I went to the US and saw a handgun, not like an active shooter or anything but Im not comfortable knowing someone any second can go mad and pull it out of their bag. So glad I don’t have to worry about that.
@@thingybob4375 same! Ive thought about it before many times. But it’s very clear to me now how it is here vs The US. F, ex school shootings which is not a thing here. :/
If you say you do, or the police suspect you want a gun for self defence, that will guarantee you will not get a licence. The biggest problem with handguns in the US, seems to be that they are ready at hand and are used easily in moments of fear or temper, for example road rage, or in the case of suicides, of depression.
I always think of Tony Martin when the subject of home defence and guns comes up. An elderly man living alone in a very isolated area who was persistently targeted and burgled by 'members of the travelling community'. He would call the Police regularly but because he lived in the middle of nowhere they always arrived too late. In desperation and fear he eventually indiscriminately fired his rifle to scare them off - but one of the two burglars was hit; although this was unknown by Mr Martin at the time. The other burglar ran off, didn't report (even anonymously) that someone had been shot; resulting in a dead burglar. Mr Martin was arrested, charged with murder, and sent to prison. Public outrage saw his conviction changed from murder to manslaughter and his sentence reduced. Once released he never returned to his home again.
@@fossy4321 it makes sense in ireland. theres practically a slow burning civil war going on. you dont have to be shot to have serious harm done to you because of what you believe.
It's actually lovely to live in a country where 'being shot' just doesn't enter the mind. It's nice to approach a policeman who is friendly and not carrying a gun. Of course we have some criminals who will own and use a gun (without any licence) but they are very much in a minority and mostly account for the 50-60 deaths per year in the UK.
The chance of coming into contact with a gun in an everyday situation are so remote I , and most people don't even consider it . On occasions when you see a soldier or Police Officer carrying one in a public place it's incredibly intimidating , even though there is always a good reason for this to be necessary .
I love your comment..." a NORMAL handgun" !! NO gun should be carried in a public place in the UK. This includes airsoft and imitation firearms. I can't understand why America still allows firearm ownership when their children are gunned down in vast numbers every year at school !! It seems that US politicians and citizens value guns over their own children !!
it's not only about guns, gun is nothing but a tool, thing that someone has to operate. I agree that the gun laws need a proper re-do. But it's always about people, properly maintained and stored gun won't shoot on it's own. Take Switzerland for example, approx 2mil of firearms and 8.2mil people, and almost no shooting, all cuz they take care of their citizens.
It's easy for me to understand. If you ban gun ownership the only people left with firearms are criminals. When you need the police they are only minutes away...at best.
@@ReVolutionCZE the best way to avoid gun accidents, violence, deaths, attacks is to not let the public have guns. its pretty simple. you can say all day that a stored gun doesnt shoot itself, but that doesnt really mean much when anyone and everyone can waltz into stores and buy one with very little push back on their mental health or stability. the amount of cases i've seen where people have died from an argument/disagreement in public that has escalated to death by shooting because guns are in peoples posession and they cant keep their tempers in check. road rage incidents especially. im glad i live in a country where i know if i'm ever in a petty incident with another member of the public, im not going to accidentally get shot and die because of their incompetence or fragile ego
@@er_cl Yes i agree. If you want to decrease gun violence you can ban guns. But if there's someone who wanna commit crime, they always find a tool. From sharp stick to illegal firearm.
@@ReVolutionCZE you can’t kill if you don’t own a gun in the first place. Don’t mention knives because a person cannot kill tens of people within a few minutes. What do people want guns for anyway? My father said he couldn’t wait to get rid of his gun after he fought in the war. He was disgusted by it. Guns are not fun, it’s immature and irresponsible to think otherwise. Guns 🟰 death 💀. America is not needing farmers and armed groups to fight the English anymore. Colonial times are over. Therefore you don’t need the right to bear arms.
The police will also make annual checks to ensure any firearms are stored safely and correctly, and can ask to inspect your gun storage! The most common guns are shotguns, a lot of farmers hunt game birds!
@@fossy4321 I don't know where you live but my guns are checked out every year and there are spot checks to make sure the gun cabinets are secured and locked up . I only use them for shooting vermin or during pheasant hunting time . Republic of Ireland and Britain have tough laws but some gun's are left over from past times .
@@suzannelacy8093 I live in England where for the past 30 years or so gun licenses are renewed every 5 years, this is when the Police will check your security. Also if a police officer turns up at your door purely to conduct a spot check you do not have to allow them entry. They are in effect requesting that you allow them entry. You do NOT have to do so. There are several reasons why the police can check your guns etc but spot checks per se are not one of them.
@@fossy4321 My rifle is checked every 5 years as well, maybe different areas have different policies on checks? Not to mention if a firearms officer asked to check my weapon, spot check per se, i'd just allow it, denying them it may be grounds for suspension or removal of your license if they cant verify the gun is safe..... I dont generally bow to police requests but that request I would do as I like hunting.
In Poland every time there is a crime or an accident with a gun, regardless if the police or the bad guys used it, it makes National news. And it happens once a couple of months. True, we are much smaller than the US, but still there's over 30 milion people In here, and we are In Eastern Europe.
@@scarba must’ve been a hideous time. So sorry. It’s shocking to me that they won’t see the madness. Children going to school with bulletproof back packs. I’m so glad of our laws here.
Another weird contrast between the UK and US is that the UK views a suppressor as a safety accessory. Because most shooting takes place at public shooting ranges, having a suppressor helps to protect the hearing of yourself and the other people there.
Enjoy your videos:) Some perspective from the UK: I'm 47 years of age and I've never heard any UK resident ever make the case for lighter gun regulation. The gun laws we have here work well. Guns do exist legally as per the video, and within gang culture - but I've never felt vulnerable to gun crime ever in the UK. Normal Brits wouldn't need a gun for home defense as the chances of confronting a gunman in our homes is extremely remote. The 'tyrannical' leader argument is historically understandable for America, but then American voters make the conscious decision to vote for Trump, who is fundamentally antidemocratic as a leader. When the American public does rise up in future it won't be the people Vs the government, (as the right to bear arms would suggest) - it'll be the people Vs the people - (as shown by Trump's time in office) i.e, a total civilian bloodbath. Trump was (and still is) a tyrannical by nature, and significant numbers of the public rose up in arms, not to defeat him, but to defend him. The very reverse assumption of the right to bear arms.
Its not a reverse to the right to bear arms. People rose up against other groups of people who threatened their freedoms. Not to mention Trump hasnt been in power for nearly 2 years yet people are still fighting each other, you really did drink that anti trump kool aid if you are still bringing him up, he truly does live rent free in some of your heads still 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think Australia has taken a leaf out of the UK's books. Lots of licencing, banned types, and inspections to make sure the weapons is locked away in a safe and the ammo is stored under lock n key separately too.
The Port Arthur massacre happened about 6 weeks after the Dunblane massacre. Those were the two incidents that caused the huge changes to gun laws in the respective countries, so the laws were written at pretty much the same time.
@@ShaneWalta Dunblane was pretty awful but the Hungerford massacre years before was the real watershed. Automatic weapons were always illegal but semi automatic weapons which fire almost as fast had been overlooked. An acquaintance who was in the Territorial Army legally had a Colt AR18 in 1981 but after an AK47 was used at Hungerford they were all compulsorily called in and they received market value for them. Another guy who had an illegal German MP40 handed it during an amnesty because it wasn't worth risking 10 years keeping it. Its little known that Territorial Army centres around the country had extensive armouries of rifles, submachine guns and general purpose machine guns protected only by steel doors and bared windows. So far as I know none of them were raided but when the IRA started seriously around 1970 security was tightened by reinforced doors, bricking up the windows and proper alarms linked to police stations.
In the U.K. during the 50's/60's there were many firearms from WW11 stored away & forgotten in back yard sheds. As a child of 14, I got caught firing a 12 gauge Shotgun over some fields on the North London/Hertfordshire border U.K. Used to put me on my A** ! All I got was a confiscation & a sharp smack around the head. Up until the 1980's you could still buy Shotgun shells & find tins of old .303 ammunition over the local dumps. Things have since changed severely & drastically. Now, armed Police will surround you in a second if you are even suspected of owning or secreting a firearm !
We, here in the UK, don’t fear the government in the way that you in the US, seem to. Maybe that is due to our political system being far less black & white. More political choices, breeds less fear of tyranny🤷♀️. I dunno, I’m just spitballing.
Using a gun for home defence is almost completely out of the question here, it's not a legitimate reason for owning a gun, and even if you own a gun for another genuine reason you'd almost certainly end up in big trouble if you used it to shoot an intruder. You *can* incapacitate or even kill an intruder without being prosecuted, but you must have used 'reasonable force' in doing so. So if you confronted a burglar and he was unarmed and simply tried to run away you'd have to be fairly restrained in your response. If the burglar came at you with a hammer you'd be well within your rights to grab the nearest heavy object to clobber him.
As someone who used to primarily service weapons in the British military, even forty odd years ago before the advent of more stringent gun laws, heavier private hand guns weren't that common or popular here? We did see them but as today, with a few obvious exceptions, they were generally sporting guns or for farming purposes.
I read somewhere that if all the weapons in the USA were shared out equally among the the public each person would have about 4 weapons 😳 Owning a gun for defense is just not an issue in UK The only people who NEED a gun for personal protection are soldiers - you know - people in a WARZONE which is what USA is 👍
If you are getting a gun for "home defense" then either you are paranoid or you have a broken system if protection in your country... If you "need" a gun to be safe what does that say about your society? Hunting in the UK is a statistical anomaly, it's not as if we have vast expanses of dangerous environment, the last dangerous animal was wiped out long ago, if it's dangerous we tend to kill it... So the reason for a firearm is somewhat limited...
I realised the difference when the video showed that the uk has 50-60 gun deaths a year. As a Brit, my first reaction was: That’s a lot?! His (an American) reaction that immediately followed afterwards was: “That’s so few!”
This was interesting! This is even more strict than here in Norway. But handguns are difficult to obtaain here too, you have to been a member of a pistol club for at least 6 months and have practised reguarly. And then you are only allowed to buy the same calibers as the club owns. Semi automatic rifles are banned here, exept for 22LR. At least if you are not using them for sports. But we have a LOT of bolt action rifles and shotguns, but that is because we have loooong traditions for hunting. :)
A family friend owned quite a few guns, of different types, he got them all licensed and he was vetted. The police checked everything his house, the safe he would be storing it in, his mental health etc. He got these guns as he was a part of a shooting club. Transporting the guns also required a specific safe and lock. Every year the police come to check everything is in order.
We don't worry about a tyrannical government in the same way as Americans do because we have a constitutional monarchy where the armed forces swear an oath of loyalty/obedience to the king or the queen and not to the government of the day. Thus, an aggressive government can't seek to control the country or the people with a show of armed force. You should ask to join our commonwealth with our monarch as head of state: that should fix things, LOL.
The police swear loyalty to the monarch as well as the military. The monarch has last-ditch powers to command both. A constitutional monarchy is a tiered system of checks and balances that evolved by trial and error over hundreds of years. It has many kinds of safeguards built into it.
I doubt many, if any people in the UK think guns are banned. Everyone knows farmers have them for pest control. People hunt game birds and in Scotland, Deer. There are target shooting clubs and clay pigeon clubs all over the place.
When it comes to a tyrannical govt that's why The King has the power to dissolve parliament and force an election its never been used in the UK but its there if needed.
You now need a Air Weapon Certificate (AWC) in Scotland as of 2016 for low powered air guns. The 2015 Act sets out a licensing regime that allows the police to better protect Scottish communities by removing air weapons from those who would misuse them. I would NOT live in the USA for quite a few major reasons - Guns and mass shootings being one of them. Watching America from a distance at the moment is like watching netflix on steroids. Best wishes
Once we had a school shooting ( a very young sir Andy Murray was in the school that day) the families campaigned for very tight gun laws. The police don’t have guns unless they are in an armed unit.
*There is an error in this video that the uploader does acknowledge in a pinned comment. The population of the UK is wrong at the time of making the video it was 65 million population.*
A couple of mistakes in this video, owning a shotgun is a right in the UK - the Police will only deny you for a reason, this reason can be as little as the visiting officer felt something was not right. Owning a rifle is not your right and the onus is on you to justify owning one. Also normal short barrelled handguns are permitted but you must have a valid reason for owning one, many deerstalkers own a handgun for dispatching deer near roads where a rifle would be dangerous due to its power. The reason most people think handguns are totally banned is that target practice was removed from the list of valid reasons so a huge percentage had to be surrendered to the Police with massive media coverage.
Although you can technically get those guns in the UK you'd need to convince the police that they were needed for a legitimate reason and I don't think "holding it makes me feel good and it looks cool" would wash with the UK police :D I'm really glad they ask for reference from friends and family, your doctor and other stuff, but surely all countries do that... right?
@@elemar5 I’m sure many of them are, but the ones who are dumb enough to think their mass shooting is valid probably aren’t smart enough to make the own gun power. 😉
1 second ago I'd highly recommend you watch the documentary about Dunblane..that will explain a lot about our attitudes to guns and the laws we as Brits, are happy to accept...personally I'd rather enjoy the freedom of knowing our kids are safer at school and that we don't fear getting shot on a day to day basis, rather than the 'freedom' to own a firearm...
@@elemar5 because having Irish gunmen being in the fbi 10 most wanted and having gun and ammo caches held in secret locations by Irish terrorists can be forgotten about. If you think its history then you must have not been there in the last couple years.
@@gavinhall6040 I've been here all my life. WTF has the FBI most wanted got to do with Irish gunmen? Secretly hidden gun caches don't make Ireland have a gun problem if they aren't being used.
In France, the process is pretty much the same than in the UK, but the kind of guns you can own once you got the approval is less restrictive (yet still restrictive) Having a gun licence is as hard, but you have more choice afterwards.
@@elemar5 yet saying “no more” is necessary to understand why there is a specific regulation in Northern Ireland and why there are more weapons than in the rest of the UK. If Ryan couldn’t understand the reason it’s because of a lack of knowledge about the violence in Northern Ireland during the 20th century. And so saying “no more” in that context was necessary. But I totally understand what you mean. Now there’s no violence in Northern Ireland and that’s all that counts, we agree on that. Especially after all the Brexit drama because if Northern Ireland is peaceful it’s not because of the EU, it’s because the people living there are peaceful.
If "home defence" is indeed the primary reason afforded for owning a gun in the US, why is open carry in public allowed? One's not at home. Do people who use this reason to own a semi automatic rifle have the thing at the breakfast table, carry it with them to the bathroom, or have it on their kid's bed as they read them a bedtime story? After all, "home invasion" isn't something for which advance notice is given.
Basically in the UK you only have the right to ask for permission to hold a specific firearm. This licence will be amended as appropriate for the weapons you have. Not only do you have to pass personal checks, but also need to show a need for one, and on renewal of that licence, a continued need. For example, if your interest is restricted to clay pigeon shooting, obtaining a shotgun licence should be straightforward, however this would not be so for many of the other types of gun.
Huge difference is that we don’t bleat on about an outdated document claiming that it is our inalienable right to keep guns. Your constitution can be amended (after all it has been over 20 times already).
You can *technically* legally own those guns, but I would like to see someone trying to convince their local police why a shotgun isn't sufficient for shooting rabbits and why they actually need an assault rifle.
(Following on from my previous post which decided to post itself before I was finished). The American said that he should be ashamed because he had left his family unprotected. as as gun owner, over a dozen at last count, I never think of my guns, which are for shooting at the clubs I belong to, as being for defence and not do any of my shooting colleagues. I am genuinely curious, is the US such an unsafe place to raise a family that guns are essential for survival or is it that there is some other reason. Just a bit of info, the offender who carried out the Christchurch shooting was apprehended in his car, still fully armed and with explosive material in his car by two policeman who stopped it and dragged him out without a shot being fired.
so to Clarify some of the unusual firearms listed like muzzle loading guns and some of the lengths pertain to usage for things like UK civil war reenactment and displays, the uk Civil war being in the 1600s used muzzle loading muskets and rifles. also cannons which above a certain type requires a gunpowder licence. The important thing for the other weapons to remember is its difficult to get the licence. The other thing to note is that in the UK many people think that hunting is a sport for posh and upper class people (probably because of all the films and TV series with upper class people shooting pheasants and grouse and going fox hunting)
My personal opinion? Restrict the use/purchase/ownership of firearms as much as possible. People who are allowed to own one (I’m going for a police officer/soldier etc. here) should have a long training to use them correctly and the use should be checked regularly (-> the stuff mentioned in the video - criminal records, certificates/licenses, friends etc.). I’m generally anti-weaponry anyway.
G'day Australia has some unique firearms laws e.g. If something looks like a gun then it is treated like a gun. now gell blasters (little more than a water pistol) require a liscance etc. even if it looks like a dildo. it shoots a projectile ,so it is a gun and must be regulated.
The UK citizenry enjoyed the protection of a large standing army for centuries before the USA became a country (and obviously the UK was still quite comfortable with monarchy circa 1776). For its first hundred years, the population was rather small, and folks out in the frontier had to defend themselves.
There's a guy near where I live, who owns An M10 Achilles's Tank destroyer with a live 17 pounder cannon! If you know how to play the game, the rules can be broken
I shot .22 rifle for my university, held a rifle licence, was a military rifle coach and was in charge of an armoury licenced by the Ministry of Defence. Guns are still Meh to me. Air weapons are licenced here in Scotland due to a toddler being killed by some idiot randomly shooting out of a window. My point is that I know guns and I still don't see the need to have one now even though I had one at one point purely for target shooting. While assault weapons may be legal, they are very heavily restricted, and there are very, very few people in this country who will be able to demonstrate the need for one and therefore obtain a licence. Storage rules are also very strict with the actions having to be locked away separately from the body and the ammunition separately again, and all parts must be separated for travel and concealed.
the argument that the people need the righht to bear arms to get the goverment in check is so stupid nowadays. what do you want to do with your normal firearms against the goverment? the army has tanks, plains and so on. if they have the army under goverment control your firearm is useless. but that the usa has a stupid justic and law system is another topic and that it is outdated in the most parts as well.
when they were changing the laws to more strict in my country, you could legally give up the gun, also it was anonymous or apply for the license. if you didn't there would be a HEFTY charge, you could go to prison. although there wasn't such a crazy gun "culture" in here as it is in US
Home defence is definately not a valid reason to own a gun here in New Zealand. When recently we had a Major buy back of auto and semi auto weapons following a major terrorist shooting in Christchurch an American criticised a local man for voluntarily handing his gun in before
It is also alot harder to get a driving license. You also have to get an MOT on a car any older than 3 years old. This checks if your vehicle is safe ie brakes etc.
@@anitaherbert1037 wasn’t being fully honest. 17 states require yearly inspections where as other states require them at point of sale. Transfer or a general inspection every two years
@@liamblack2574 I do not regard that as dishonesty. We all take from our own experience to create our own idea of what is normal or usual. It takes thought and effort to be aware that our norm may be inconsistent with that of our neighbours. Thank you for the clarification.
I don't think it would be so difficult with a buy back scenario in combination to make it much harder to get a new one legally and some education. It certainly will take some time like two or more decades. But honestly. Is there a non lobbied statistic how many lives got saved by firearms and how many got taken?
You should check out comedian Jim Jefferies "Gun control" stand up, he dismantles the typical arguments raised by Americans when it comes to gun ownership, it's both entertaining and smart, you just can't argue with his logic!
The USA constitution is dated and still reflects the far west cowboys era. USA in the world looks like a banana republic .. More than 50 % of Americans live in a parallel world and have no idea about other civilized countries , culture and languages . the education system in USA is the worst among the G7 countries ... they don't even know their own history . It is called United States but like the politics there is no unity , very divided country in 50 states are not working for their citizens but for money since it is the only value in USA . Please stop calling your country America since I live in America but not USA . America is a continent your country is United States .
It's unsurprising many people here aren't aware of gun laws, as shooting isn't as popular as it was a long time ago, and it's mainly seen as a purely rural thing. I believe there's only around 4 million regular shooters in the UK,and our culture is very different from the US. I've been shooting for 33 years, and often notice people are fairly ignorant of shooting and guns here.
Yes you can own an uzi, but you also have to show need to own one. The guns are allowed under the law but the need to hold them is debatable so in effect no one would be able to have one.
The mind set of the public in the UK is what do we need to own a gun for and ownership of a gun would feel totally wrong to us - The American 2nd amendment was written at a time when the Americans had local militia with muzzle loaded rifles for civil defense and as such it is outdated for modern times - The name (Amendment) itself says it was an addition to their constitution so can be changed again at any time if they so chose to do so but sadly there is too much money to be made in guns for them to be inclined to change
The problem is, when you have many legal guns an you are making gun-ownership illegal, then there a still guns around. There are fewer, but they are illegal. And a robber or such doesn't care about that. That would only work, when somebody would collect all the guns (including the then hidden guns). I think most deaths of gun violence is because of an illegal weapon.
"low powered" airgun is a bit of a misstatement. Can get perfectly legal air weapons more than capable of causing some damage although not immediately lethal like a real gun. Also a .50 calibre bolt-action is also perfectly legal. It's only semi-automatic weapons that are restricted to .22
Just storing guns unloaded and locked up would almost certainly result in many fewer injuries and deaths in US. Statistically you guys have a lot of gun related accidents.
Gun crime isnt about presence of legal firearms. Its about illegal ones and about control of those legal ones... Forexample czech republic has the best gun law in the world. Once you proove yourself capable of handling the gun, you can have and carry it. Every gun is registered to the name and can be sold ONLY with police permit, reregistered to a new person... We have almost 0 legal firearms crime. But thanks to that people can carry, even knife and other crimes are very low. On average one in 30 people has a gun here. And average owner has 3-4 of them. And its not just about weapons. It is much harder to do a crime when robbed person can use expandable batton or pepper spray to give you hell without any fear of legal consequences.
Latest numbers has the US at 120.5 per 100 people. NZ has an estimated 26.3/100 people. Far too high for a country of our population. Even taking in to account the fact we have people with a genuine need (farmers protecting livestock, hunting). How to solve? Increase mental health spending from the government. Far more / improved resources to call on for those who need them. More and better trained MH workers. Etc. Would be a good start.
No you've got it wrong: the US law states that you can wear t-shirts in public ie have bear arms! Did this go wrong then? My brother has a musket for English civil war re-inactments. He has a licience for use.
The lack of guns in the UK has historical background. Unlike in the US (and southern Europe), hunting game was always the reserve of the rich and when guns were used, only they had them (a peasant with one would be suspected as a poacher), whereas in the US the poor colonist farmers hunted for food and so had guns. But guns of various types became more common in Victorian Britain, however the bloodbath of WW1 means many people never wanted to see a gun again and even people who had pistols had then more as souvenirs and probably had no ammo for them. Also the Georgian-Victorian rise in urbanisation meant that police were more professional and armed criminals could be caught without the need for vigilantes. After the Dunblaine shootings where laws were tightened dramatically, many people (I remember this) were surprised to find out that many types of gun had previously been legal and so losing the right to have these was hardly a loss to anyone.
The narrator should do his homework! The ratio may actually be better than he says near the beginning. He points out that the UK population is around 56,000,000? Wrong, that's England alone, the UK, etc....... has a population of just over 67,000,000 people.
Gun laws are different in Scotland and Northern Ireland than they are in England and Wales, so he’s not that far out. Also, depends when the video was made.
@@johnp8131 I don’t know why he stated that, mate, you’ll have to ask him. But gun laws in Scotland and Northern Ireland are different to in England and Wales, as a quick Google will tell you.
Pretty much all the gun arguments about the US being different by gun nuts, its bigger, it has more dangerous animals, its a frontier nation and ex colony and has a big gun lobby are blown away by Australia because it had all those things x 10 but it still enacted sensible gun laws that have clearly had a huge positive effect.
The reason why 'home defense' or 'protection' isn't allowed as a valid reason to own a gun, is because shooting people is illegal for civilians. So stating your intention to shoot people when given cause is basically saying you intend to break the law. I know US licensing is somewhat less convoluted, but even there they ask 'do you plan to use this to commit a crime' and if you say 'yes', you don't get a gun.
Oh, about Ireland. Ireland became independent of the UK a hundred or so years ago. Most of Ireland, that is. Northern Ireland stayed with the UK and the situation was ... complicated. I'm not going into the details, because I'm not knowledgeable enough on the topic
Ryan, you are a parent. Sooner or later, you'll have to send your child to school and naturally, you'll expect him or her home at the end of each day, alive and unharmed. I know you have many, many schools over there where nothing bad ever happens, but I think you'll surely agree, even one school shooting is too many.... In the UK, that's the figure that has occurred - just once, and in 1997 - after which a national gun amnesty resulted in tens of thousands of illegal firearms being handed into police... Now the question is, which country is the safest for your child to attend school within - or, to put it another way, would you rather there was a small chance that your kid may never return from school - or would you prefer it if there was next to no chance? I know this is probably the most emotive gun-related argument there is, and I know children are more likely to be killed in road accidents or even fire or flood - but as your kids are likely to be your most precious assets, that I'm afraid is what you must consider... I would add that there are no wild animals in the UK that are likely to attack and kill either. We have the occasional incident with dogs, but that's it. It is illegal to harm anyone whom you find within your home without your authority here. There have been numerous cases of intruders and burglars suing property owners - II know it doesn't seem altogether right, but that's how it is. At the end of the day, what price safety?
The number of guns in a country does say nothing about the crimes done with them. Switzerland for example has allot of guns but there is not much gun violence percentage wise. It comes down to the people and the conditions of living i think and a country need to be strict if it comes to people who can be dangerous. The biggest problem in the US is that there are allot of poor people who are living in neighbourhoods where is allot of crime so they probably will be a criminal later on in life too, so if you have allot of people who are forced to be criminals because they live in very bad conditions and there are many guns it is bad, but if most people live good in general or atleast acceptable and there are many guns you don't have the same problems. That is atleast my opinion on it.
The biggest difference though is that most UK people don't care about guns and don't want one, or want to be around one. It's more about culture than the law. We would never buy one as a gift, especially for kids. And we look down on people who glorify them. If someone you know says they want to own one, your first question would be "why?"
Why you don't look down on people who like guns? I am from Germany and i have guns and we have the same problem, because allot of people have allot of stereotypes if it comes to people who like guns. I love guns and i have a few and there will be more in the future, but i am not grazy or something like that i just love the technical things about them and i absolutely love to shoot. But i have a few controvertial thought about guns, in my opinion everyone (who has passed a psychological test and has not criminel record, or atleast nothing wich goes over stealing a candy bar in a supermarket as a teenager) should have the right to own guns. Just because the police cannot protect you, yeah you can call the police after someone robbed you or while someone is breaking into your house but they are there after everything happend. If it comes to kids they should no have guns but it should be legal at 14 to shoot if there is someone watching with the guns of the parents or of a rifle club. It is possible with 14 in germany but only .22 and with 16 you can shoot shotguns but for everything else you have to be 18.
I literally got a shotgun for my 18th
cuz you’re a 🐈 who’s scared of guns lol
@@Armed-Forever Better be scary than sorry
@@Armed-Forever Or he just doesn't need a gun to protect himself like you do. 🐱
When you said "why would Ireland need guns ?"I spat my mouthful of coffee over the cat.
One might argue if they are needed now, but it's quite obvious why they are there.
Most Americans are oblivious to the clusterfuck that went on in Ireland years ago, most of them have only ever heard of the Potato Famine 🤷♂️
Because FUCK the English
That one was funny 😁
the amount of US citizens claiming Irish heritage knowing little to none about Irish history is astonishing....
Hi Ryan
I'd just like to say, I'm a 62 year old English man, raised in the city of Liverpool, UK. In my entire life I have never, ever, knowingly, known anyone who has ever owned a gun. Seriously. I have never, ever, known anyone who has been shot, nor a family member of theirs. I honestly don't think I've even ever heard the sound of gunfire in my entire life.
The only time I ever came into contact with a gun in my life was in a hotel in Cairo, Egypt. I sat on a sofa in the reception and found a handgun on the seat. Walking across to the reception with it in my hand to say "I think someone left this behind" was one of the scariest moments of my entire life.
How the fuck do you live your day to day life, not knowing that the person sat across from you in a bar or restaurant might just have a gun on them?
Seriously, open access to guns is an issue. Which experience would you prefer in your day to day life?
Hey there, Norwegian here, I can say the same. Only shot a bb gun at tin boxes at my uncle and aunts cabin once but I didn’t really like it. I don’t know about anyone who has been shot or seen anyone shoot a real gun. Until I went to the US and saw a handgun, not like an active shooter or anything but Im not comfortable knowing someone any second can go mad and pull it out of their bag. So glad I don’t have to worry about that.
@@mari97216 It's only now, in later life, that i realise how truly safe we are living in Europe
From Liverpool and never known anyone who's owned a gun... yeah right 😏
@@mrebk3358 No - I'm from Liverpool and have NEVER known anyone who has owned a gun. Fact.
@@thingybob4375 same! Ive thought about it before many times. But it’s very clear to me now how it is here vs The US. F, ex school shootings which is not a thing here. :/
If you say you do, or the police suspect you want a gun for self defence, that will guarantee you will not get a licence.
The biggest problem with handguns in the US, seems to be that they are ready at hand and are used easily in moments of fear or temper, for example road rage, or in the case of suicides, of depression.
Exactly 💯
I always think of Tony Martin when the subject of home defence and guns comes up. An elderly man living alone in a very isolated area who was persistently targeted and burgled by 'members of the travelling community'. He would call the Police regularly but because he lived in the middle of nowhere they always arrived too late. In desperation and fear he eventually indiscriminately fired his rifle to scare them off - but one of the two burglars was hit; although this was unknown by Mr Martin at the time. The other burglar ran off, didn't report (even anonymously) that someone had been shot; resulting in a dead burglar. Mr Martin was arrested, charged with murder, and sent to prison. Public outrage saw his conviction changed from murder to manslaughter and his sentence reduced. Once released he never returned to his home again.
@@jillosler9353
Yes I remember that. In fact I think I signed and shared the petition to get his sentence commuted, and him released early.
Self-defense is considered a valid reason in N. Ireland where the laws are slightly different.
@@fossy4321 it makes sense in ireland. theres practically a slow burning civil war going on. you dont have to be shot to have serious harm done to you because of what you believe.
Most people just don’t want a gun in the U.K. it’s a totally different feeling towards it.
It's actually lovely to live in a country where 'being shot' just doesn't enter the mind. It's nice to approach a policeman who is friendly and not carrying a gun. Of course we have some criminals who will own and use a gun (without any licence) but they are very much in a minority and mostly account for the 50-60 deaths per year in the UK.
The chance of coming into contact with a gun in an everyday situation are so remote I , and most people don't even consider it . On occasions when you see a soldier or Police Officer carrying one in a public place it's incredibly intimidating , even though there is always a good reason for this to be necessary .
I love your comment..." a NORMAL handgun" !!
NO gun should be carried in a public place in the UK. This includes airsoft and imitation firearms.
I can't understand why America still allows firearm ownership when their children are gunned down in vast numbers every year at school !! It seems that US politicians and citizens value guns over their own children !!
it's not only about guns, gun is nothing but a tool, thing that someone has to operate. I agree that the gun laws need a proper re-do. But it's always about people, properly maintained and stored gun won't shoot on it's own. Take Switzerland for example, approx 2mil of firearms and 8.2mil people, and almost no shooting, all cuz they take care of their citizens.
It's easy for me to understand. If you ban gun ownership the only people left with firearms are criminals. When you need the police they are only minutes away...at best.
@@ReVolutionCZE the best way to avoid gun accidents, violence, deaths, attacks is to not let the public have guns. its pretty simple. you can say all day that a stored gun doesnt shoot itself, but that doesnt really mean much when anyone and everyone can waltz into stores and buy one with very little push back on their mental health or stability. the amount of cases i've seen where people have died from an argument/disagreement in public that has escalated to death by shooting because guns are in peoples posession and they cant keep their tempers in check. road rage incidents especially. im glad i live in a country where i know if i'm ever in a petty incident with another member of the public, im not going to accidentally get shot and die because of their incompetence or fragile ego
@@er_cl Yes i agree. If you want to decrease gun violence you can ban guns. But if there's someone who wanna commit crime, they always find a tool. From sharp stick to illegal firearm.
@@ReVolutionCZE you can’t kill if you don’t own a gun in the first place. Don’t mention knives because a person cannot kill tens of people within a few minutes. What do people want guns for anyway? My father said he couldn’t wait to get rid of his gun after he fought in the war. He was disgusted by it. Guns are not fun, it’s immature and irresponsible to think otherwise. Guns 🟰 death 💀. America is not needing farmers and armed groups to fight the English anymore. Colonial times are over. Therefore you don’t need the right to bear arms.
The police will also make annual checks to ensure any firearms are stored safely and correctly, and can ask to inspect your gun storage! The most common guns are shotguns, a lot of farmers hunt game birds!
It's been every 5 years for a long while now.
it every 5 years when the licence is renewed.
@@fossy4321 I don't know where you live but my guns are checked out every year and there are spot checks to make sure the gun cabinets are secured and locked up . I only use them for shooting vermin or during pheasant hunting time . Republic of Ireland and Britain have tough laws but some gun's are left over from past times .
@@suzannelacy8093 I live in England where for the past 30 years or so gun licenses are renewed every 5 years, this is when the Police will check your security. Also if a police officer turns up at your door purely to conduct a spot check you do not have to allow them entry. They are in effect requesting that you allow them entry. You do NOT have to do so. There are several reasons why the police can check your guns etc but spot checks per se are not one of them.
@@fossy4321 My rifle is checked every 5 years as well, maybe different areas have different policies on checks? Not to mention if a firearms officer asked to check my weapon, spot check per se, i'd just allow it, denying them it may be grounds for suspension or removal of your license if they cant verify the gun is safe..... I dont generally bow to police requests but that request I would do as I like hunting.
I'm actually shocked that there is 6.5 guns per 100 people that is alot more than I thought
lots of farmers in the UK. also makes sense for hunters, especially in scotland. the english arent terrible in gun sports either.
In Poland every time there is a crime or an accident with a gun, regardless if the police or the bad guys used it, it makes National news. And it happens once a couple of months. True, we are much smaller than the US, but still there's over 30 milion people In here, and we are In Eastern Europe.
You should watch the Dunblane massacre, which is the main reason gun laws in the UK are the way they are
@@BeeLZBeeb more than enough. I was a few miles away when it happened. The sadness and shock was overwhelming.
He sees a school shooting every few months in USA so don't think it'll have any effect on his views
@@helenagreenwood2305 it’s sick that it’s become normal for them
@@scarba must’ve been a hideous time. So sorry.
It’s shocking to me that they won’t see the madness. Children going to school with bulletproof back packs.
I’m so glad of our laws here.
Another weird contrast between the UK and US is that the UK views a suppressor as a safety accessory. Because most shooting takes place at public shooting ranges, having a suppressor helps to protect the hearing of yourself and the other people there.
Enjoy your videos:) Some perspective from the UK: I'm 47 years of age and I've never heard any UK resident ever make the case for lighter gun regulation. The gun laws we have here work well. Guns do exist legally as per the video, and within gang culture - but I've never felt vulnerable to gun crime ever in the UK. Normal Brits wouldn't need a gun for home defense as the chances of confronting a gunman in our homes is extremely remote. The 'tyrannical' leader argument is historically understandable for America, but then American voters make the conscious decision to vote for Trump, who is fundamentally antidemocratic as a leader. When the American public does rise up in future it won't be the people Vs the government, (as the right to bear arms would suggest) - it'll be the people Vs the people - (as shown by Trump's time in office) i.e, a total civilian bloodbath. Trump was (and still is) a tyrannical by nature, and significant numbers of the public rose up in arms, not to defeat him, but to defend him. The very reverse assumption of the right to bear arms.
Its not a reverse to the right to bear arms. People rose up against other groups of people who threatened their freedoms. Not to mention Trump hasnt been in power for nearly 2 years yet people are still fighting each other, you really did drink that anti trump kool aid if you are still bringing him up, he truly does live rent free in some of your heads still 🤣🤣🤣🤣
you know you're american when you think 50-60 gun deaths per year is low
I think Australia has taken a leaf out of the UK's books. Lots of licencing, banned types, and inspections to make sure the weapons is locked away in a safe and the ammo is stored under lock n key separately too.
The Port Arthur massacre happened about 6 weeks after the Dunblane massacre. Those were the two incidents that caused the huge changes to gun laws in the respective countries, so the laws were written at pretty much the same time.
@@ShaneWalta Dunblane was pretty awful but the Hungerford massacre years before was the real watershed. Automatic weapons were always illegal but semi automatic weapons which fire almost as fast had been overlooked. An acquaintance who was in the Territorial Army legally had a Colt AR18 in 1981 but after an AK47 was used at Hungerford they were all compulsorily called in and they received market value for them.
Another guy who had an illegal German MP40 handed it during an amnesty because it wasn't worth risking 10 years keeping it.
Its little known that Territorial Army centres around the country had extensive armouries of rifles, submachine guns and general purpose machine guns protected only by steel doors and bared windows. So far as I know none of them were raided but when the IRA started seriously around 1970 security was tightened by reinforced doors, bricking up the windows and proper alarms linked to police stations.
In the U.K. during the 50's/60's there were many firearms from WW11 stored away & forgotten in back yard sheds. As a child of 14, I got caught firing a 12 gauge Shotgun over some fields on the North London/Hertfordshire border U.K. Used to put me on my A** ! All I got was a confiscation & a sharp smack around the head. Up until the 1980's you could still buy Shotgun shells & find tins of old .303 ammunition over the local dumps. Things have since changed severely & drastically. Now, armed Police will surround you in a second if you are even suspected of owning or secreting a firearm !
We, here in the UK, don’t fear the government in the way that you in the US, seem to. Maybe that is due to our political system being far less black & white. More political choices, breeds less fear of tyranny🤷♀️. I dunno, I’m just spitballing.
Using a gun for home defence is almost completely out of the question here, it's not a legitimate reason for owning a gun, and even if you own a gun for another genuine reason you'd almost certainly end up in big trouble if you used it to shoot an intruder. You *can* incapacitate or even kill an intruder without being prosecuted, but you must have used 'reasonable force' in doing so. So if you confronted a burglar and he was unarmed and simply tried to run away you'd have to be fairly restrained in your response. If the burglar came at you with a hammer you'd be well within your rights to grab the nearest heavy object to clobber him.
It's a valid reason in Northern Ireland.
Right to bare arms , we do as well I have lots of short sleeved tops 🤣🤣 .
HMS Belfast is covered by a firearms licence for her 6" guns, 12 of them!
im a 71 year old welsh man ive never seen a real gun hope too god i never do
Had firearms since i was 18 and intend using them as long as i can. Carn't beat a fresh rabbit or a couple of pigeons. I'm well over 60 now.
As someone who used to primarily service weapons in the British military, even forty odd years ago before the advent of more stringent gun laws, heavier private hand guns weren't that common or popular here? We did see them but as today, with a few obvious exceptions, they were generally sporting guns or for farming purposes.
I read somewhere that if all the weapons in the USA were shared out equally among the the public each person would have about 4 weapons 😳
Owning a gun for defense is just not an issue in UK
The only people who NEED a gun for personal protection are soldiers - you know - people in a WARZONE which is what USA is 👍
If you are getting a gun for "home defense" then either you are paranoid or you have a broken system if protection in your country... If you "need" a gun to be safe what does that say about your society?
Hunting in the UK is a statistical anomaly, it's not as if we have vast expanses of dangerous environment, the last dangerous animal was wiped out long ago, if it's dangerous we tend to kill it... So the reason for a firearm is somewhat limited...
I realised the difference when the video showed that the uk has 50-60 gun deaths a year.
As a Brit, my first reaction was: That’s a lot?!
His (an American) reaction that immediately followed afterwards was: “That’s so few!”
This was interesting! This is even more strict than here in Norway. But handguns are difficult to obtaain here too, you have to been a member of a pistol club for at least 6 months and have practised reguarly. And then you are only allowed to buy the same calibers as the club owns. Semi automatic rifles are banned here, exept for 22LR. At least if you are not using them for sports. But we have a LOT of bolt action rifles and shotguns, but that is because we have loooong traditions for hunting. :)
A family friend owned quite a few guns, of different types, he got them all licensed and he was vetted. The police checked everything his house, the safe he would be storing it in, his mental health etc. He got these guns as he was a part of a shooting club. Transporting the guns also required a specific safe and lock. Every year the police come to check everything is in order.
We don't worry about a tyrannical government in the same way as Americans do because we have a constitutional monarchy where the armed forces swear an oath of loyalty/obedience to the king or the queen and not to the government of the day. Thus, an aggressive government can't seek to control the country or the people with a show of armed force. You should ask to join our commonwealth with our monarch as head of state: that should fix things, LOL.
The police swear loyalty to the monarch as well as the military. The monarch has last-ditch powers to command both. A constitutional monarchy is a tiered system of checks and balances that evolved by trial and error over hundreds of years. It has many kinds of safeguards built into it.
I doubt many, if any people in the UK think guns are banned. Everyone knows farmers have them for pest control. People hunt game birds and in Scotland, Deer. There are target shooting clubs and clay pigeon clubs all over the place.
Best of luck in your CZcams channel lots of love from Bhutan
When it comes to a tyrannical govt that's why The King has the power to dissolve parliament and force an election its never been used in the UK but its there if needed.
Absolutely none of that is correct. Take of the conspiracy goggles and get real.
@@memkiii I suggest you actually look at what powers the monarch has.
You now need a Air Weapon Certificate (AWC) in Scotland as of 2016 for low powered air guns. The 2015 Act sets out a licensing regime that allows the police to better protect Scottish communities by removing air weapons from those who would misuse them. I would NOT live in the USA for quite a few major reasons - Guns and mass shootings being one of them. Watching America from a distance at the moment is like watching netflix on steroids. Best wishes
Once we had a school shooting ( a very young sir Andy Murray was in the school that day) the families campaigned for very tight gun laws. The police don’t have guns unless they are in an armed unit.
*There is an error in this video that the uploader does acknowledge in a pinned comment. The population of the UK is wrong at the time of making the video it was 65 million population.*
As usual your right. I stated this earlier but used current population figures. I've now got some "Banana" arguing the toss!
A couple of mistakes in this video, owning a shotgun is a right in the UK - the Police will only deny you for a reason, this reason can be as little as the visiting officer felt something was not right. Owning a rifle is not your right and the onus is on you to justify owning one. Also normal short barrelled handguns are permitted but you must have a valid reason for owning one, many deerstalkers own a handgun for dispatching deer near roads where a rifle would be dangerous due to its power. The reason most people think handguns are totally banned is that target practice was removed from the list of valid reasons so a huge percentage had to be surrendered to the Police with massive media coverage.
Although you can technically get those guns in the UK you'd need to convince the police that they were needed for a legitimate reason and I don't think "holding it makes me feel good and it looks cool" would wash with the UK police :D
I'm really glad they ask for reference from friends and family, your doctor and other stuff, but surely all countries do that... right?
Right..! Oh wait...? What
Naturally, if you are into home defence in the UK you just apply for a crenellation licence; we all live in castles.
"I don't think "holding it makes me feel good and it looks cool" "
Or "I want it for my son's 5th birthday" 🙃
The USA doesn’t need to do a gun buyback, it just needs to restrict the sale of ammunition! Without ammunition a firearm is just a metal club.
I know a few people who reload their own ammo.
@@elemar5 With what if the components they need are no longer available to them?
@@ffotograffydd Humans are very smart and adaptable.
@@elemar5 I’m sure many of them are, but the ones who are dumb enough to think their mass shooting is valid probably aren’t smart enough to make the own gun power. 😉
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I'd highly recommend you watch the documentary about Dunblane..that will explain a lot about our attitudes to guns and the laws we as Brits, are happy to accept...personally I'd rather enjoy the freedom of knowing our kids are safer at school and that we don't fear getting shot on a day to day basis, rather than the 'freedom' to own a firearm...
The UK population was last as low as 56M in the early 1970s. It's at 78M now...
I'm sorry but I laughed aloud when you asked whether Ireland had a gun problem. Do a reaction video on "the troubles" for further context. Great video
Ireland doesn't have a gun problem though. You are talking history. There are more gun related crimes in Britain than in Ireland.
@@elemar5 because having Irish gunmen being in the fbi 10 most wanted and having gun and ammo caches held in secret locations by Irish terrorists can be forgotten about. If you think its history then you must have not been there in the last couple years.
@@gavinhall6040 I've been here all my life. WTF has the FBI most wanted got to do with Irish gunmen?
Secretly hidden gun caches don't make Ireland have a gun problem if they aren't being used.
In France, the process is pretty much the same than in the UK, but the kind of guns you can own once you got the approval is less restrictive (yet still restrictive)
Having a gun licence is as hard, but you have more choice afterwards.
Is gun violence in Ireland a big problem? now that's funny
And the answer is ....no.
@@elemar5 no more. The answer is no more.
@@samwisegamgee6532 The question was, "is gun violence a problem in Ireland", not "was gun violence a problem in Ireland."
@@elemar5 yet saying “no more” is necessary to understand why there is a specific regulation in Northern Ireland and why there are more weapons than in the rest of the UK.
If Ryan couldn’t understand the reason it’s because of a lack of knowledge about the violence in Northern Ireland during the 20th century. And so saying “no more” in that context was necessary.
But I totally understand what you mean. Now there’s no violence in Northern Ireland and that’s all that counts, we agree on that. Especially after all the Brexit drama because if Northern Ireland is peaceful it’s not because of the EU, it’s because the people living there are peaceful.
If "home defence" is indeed the primary reason afforded for owning a gun in the US, why is open carry in public allowed? One's not at home. Do people who use this reason to own a semi automatic rifle have the thing at the breakfast table, carry it with them to the bathroom, or have it on their kid's bed as they read them a bedtime story? After all, "home invasion" isn't something for which advance notice is given.
Basically in the UK you only have the right to ask for permission to hold a specific firearm. This licence will be amended as appropriate for the weapons you have.
Not only do you have to pass personal checks, but also need to show a need for one, and on renewal of that licence, a continued need.
For example, if your interest is restricted to clay pigeon shooting, obtaining a shotgun licence should be straightforward, however this would not be so for many of the other types of gun.
"Is gun violence a problem in Ireland?" all the lols
Makes one wonder where he has been since 1969.......
I have two, antique hand guns (ammunition no longer available) (muff pistols) and one antique decommissioned rifle. Their lovely no licence needed.
Huge difference is that we don’t bleat on about an outdated document claiming that it is our inalienable right to keep guns.
Your constitution can be amended (after all it has been over 20 times already).
It's mainly about the calibre you can get basically anything in 22lr or rim and shotguns and 223 or 308 rifles for deer anything else is really hard
as a brit I myself have never seen a gun outside of movies/videos or videogames ever In my life
I have never seen a gun outside of a museum and I can't even remember seeing one in a museum
Americans have lots of guns because Americans have lots of guns.
True story
You really need to react to our Christmas adverts , commercials please , specifically John Lewis
You can *technically* legally own those guns, but I would like to see someone trying to convince their local police why a shotgun isn't sufficient for shooting rabbits and why they actually need an assault rifle.
(Following on from my previous post which decided to post itself before I was finished). The American said that he should be ashamed because he had left his family unprotected. as as gun owner, over a dozen at last count, I never think of my guns, which are for shooting at the clubs I belong to, as being for defence and not do any of my shooting colleagues.
I am genuinely curious, is the US such an unsafe place to raise a family that guns are essential for survival or is it that there is some other reason. Just a bit of info, the offender who carried out the Christchurch shooting was apprehended in his car, still fully armed and with explosive material in his car by two policeman who stopped it and dragged him out without a shot being fired.
36 years old living in Britain and I’ve never ever seen a gun in real life
so to Clarify some of the unusual firearms listed like muzzle loading guns and some of the lengths pertain to usage for things like UK civil war reenactment and displays, the uk Civil war being in the 1600s used muzzle loading muskets and rifles. also cannons which above a certain type requires a gunpowder licence.
The important thing for the other weapons to remember is its difficult to get the licence. The other thing to note is that in the UK many people think that hunting is a sport for posh and upper class people (probably because of all the films and TV series with upper class people shooting pheasants and grouse and going fox hunting)
It doesn't matter what type of gun it is. Weather its high or low calibre. In the wrong hands They will still somebody. From UK 🇬🇧👍👍
Your a funny guy, Ryan.
We can own guns in the UK but we chose not because we don't feel the need
My personal opinion? Restrict the use/purchase/ownership of firearms as much as possible. People who are allowed to own one (I’m going for a police officer/soldier etc. here) should have a long training to use them correctly and the use should be checked regularly (-> the stuff mentioned in the video - criminal records, certificates/licenses, friends etc.). I’m generally anti-weaponry anyway.
G'day Australia has some unique firearms laws e.g. If something looks like a gun then it is treated like a gun. now gell blasters (little more than a water pistol) require a liscance etc. even if it looks like a dildo. it shoots a projectile ,so it is a gun and must be regulated.
The UK citizenry enjoyed the protection of a large standing army for centuries before the USA became a country (and obviously the UK was still quite comfortable with monarchy circa 1776). For its first hundred years, the population was rather small, and folks out in the frontier had to defend themselves.
You mean kill native Americans?
@@scarba - Find me a tribe, country, civilization that hasn't killed others in the past.
@@SilvanaDil wasn’t defending themselves then.
German's gun law is even stricter!
Try coming up with a good reason to the police to own an Uzi 🤣
There's a guy near where I live, who owns An M10 Achilles's Tank destroyer with a live 17 pounder cannon!
If you know how to play the game, the rules can be broken
I shot .22 rifle for my university, held a rifle licence, was a military rifle coach and was in charge of an armoury licenced by the Ministry of Defence. Guns are still Meh to me. Air weapons are licenced here in Scotland due to a toddler being killed by some idiot randomly shooting out of a window. My point is that I know guns and I still don't see the need to have one now even though I had one at one point purely for target shooting. While assault weapons may be legal, they are very heavily restricted, and there are very, very few people in this country who will be able to demonstrate the need for one and therefore obtain a licence. Storage rules are also very strict with the actions having to be locked away separately from the body and the ammunition separately again, and all parts must be separated for travel and concealed.
Before Dunblane, there was guns everywhere.
the argument that the people need the righht to bear arms to get the goverment in check is so stupid nowadays. what do you want to do with your normal firearms against the goverment? the army has tanks, plains and so on. if they have the army under goverment control your firearm is useless.
but that the usa has a stupid justic and law system is another topic and that it is outdated in the most parts as well.
when they were changing the laws to more strict in my country, you could legally give up the gun, also it was anonymous or apply for the license. if you didn't there would be a HEFTY charge, you could go to prison. although there wasn't such a crazy gun "culture" in here as it is in US
Home defence is definately not a valid reason to own a gun here in New Zealand. When recently we had a
Major buy back of auto and semi auto weapons following a major terrorist shooting in Christchurch an American criticised a local man for voluntarily handing his gun in before
What wasn't said in the video. If you get arrested and convicted of assault. You do loose the gun licence permanently.
It is also alot harder to get a driving license. You also have to get an MOT on a car any older than 3 years old. This checks if your vehicle is safe ie brakes etc.
American have to have yearly “inspections” of their car
@@liamblack2574 that surprises me. Is this every state as I watched an American say they didn't. Itdoes not seem a thing they would say spuriously.
@@anitaherbert1037 wasn’t being fully honest. 17 states require yearly inspections where as other states require them at point of sale. Transfer or a general inspection every two years
@@liamblack2574 I do not regard that as dishonesty. We all take from our own experience to create our own idea of what is normal or usual. It takes thought and effort to be aware that our norm may be inconsistent with that of our neighbours. Thank you for the clarification.
UK is well regulated. Imagine having those words involved in him ownership.
I don't think it would be so difficult with a buy back scenario in combination to make it much harder to get a new one legally and some education. It certainly will take some time like two or more decades. But honestly. Is there a non lobbied statistic how many lives got saved by firearms and how many got taken?
You should check out comedian Jim Jefferies "Gun control" stand up, he dismantles the typical arguments raised by Americans when it comes to gun ownership, it's both entertaining and smart, you just can't argue with his logic!
The USA constitution is dated and still reflects the far west cowboys era. USA in the world looks like a banana republic .. More than 50 % of Americans live in a parallel world and have no idea about other civilized countries , culture and languages . the education system in USA is the worst among the G7 countries ... they don't even know their own history . It is called United States but like the politics there is no unity , very divided country in 50 states are not working for their citizens but for money since it is the only value in USA . Please stop calling your country America since I live in America but not USA . America is a continent your country is United States .
It's unsurprising many people here aren't aware of gun laws, as shooting isn't as popular as it was a long time ago, and it's mainly seen as a purely rural thing. I believe there's only around 4 million regular shooters in the UK,and our culture is very different from the US.
I've been shooting for 33 years, and often notice people are fairly ignorant of shooting and guns here.
Even vast majority of police don't know UK gun laws
The difference here in The uk we don't get wet dreams over guns.
Yes you can own an uzi, but you also have to show need to own one.
The guns are allowed under the law but the need to hold them is debatable so in effect no one would be able to have one.
The mind set of the public in the UK is what do we need to own a gun for and ownership of a gun would feel totally wrong to us - The American 2nd amendment was written at a time when the Americans had local militia with muzzle loaded rifles for civil defense and as such it is outdated for modern times - The name (Amendment) itself says it was an addition to their constitution so can be changed again at any time if they so chose to do so but sadly there is too much money to be made in guns for them to be inclined to change
The problem is, when you have many legal guns an you are making gun-ownership illegal, then there a still guns around. There are fewer, but they are illegal. And a robber or such doesn't care about that. That would only work, when somebody would collect all the guns (including the then hidden guns). I think most deaths of gun violence is because of an illegal weapon.
"low powered" airgun is a bit of a misstatement. Can get perfectly legal air weapons more than capable of causing some damage although not immediately lethal like a real gun.
Also a .50 calibre bolt-action is also perfectly legal. It's only semi-automatic weapons that are restricted to .22
From Peru here, and never ever met someone who owned a gun. USA is just broken.
Just storing guns unloaded and locked up would almost certainly result in many fewer injuries and deaths in US.
Statistically you guys have a lot of gun related accidents.
Gun crime isnt about presence of legal firearms. Its about illegal ones and about control of those legal ones...
Forexample czech republic has the best gun law in the world. Once you proove yourself capable of handling the gun, you can have and carry it.
Every gun is registered to the name and can be sold ONLY with police permit, reregistered to a new person...
We have almost 0 legal firearms crime. But thanks to that people can carry, even knife and other crimes are very low.
On average one in 30 people has a gun here. And average owner has 3-4 of them.
And its not just about weapons. It is much harder to do a crime when robbed person can use expandable batton or pepper spray to give you hell without any fear of legal consequences.
The UK population is not 56 million, it is over 67 million. That screws his figures.
Even if u legally own a gun if u shot someone robbing ur House u would be charged as it is excessive force
Latest numbers has the US at 120.5 per 100 people.
NZ has an estimated 26.3/100 people. Far too high for a country of our population. Even taking in to account the fact we have people with a genuine need (farmers protecting livestock, hunting).
How to solve? Increase mental health spending from the government. Far more / improved resources to call on for those who need them. More and better trained MH workers. Etc. Would be a good start.
No you've got it wrong: the US law states that you can wear t-shirts in public ie have bear arms! Did this go wrong then?
My brother has a musket for English civil war re-inactments. He has a licience for use.
Aren't bear arms really hairy?
It'a bare arms - not bear arm🤣Really funny though.
The lack of guns in the UK has historical background. Unlike in the US (and southern Europe), hunting game was always the reserve of the rich and when guns were used, only they had them (a peasant with one would be suspected as a poacher), whereas in the US the poor colonist farmers hunted for food and so had guns. But guns of various types became more common in Victorian Britain, however the bloodbath of WW1 means many people never wanted to see a gun again and even people who had pistols had then more as souvenirs and probably had no ammo for them. Also the Georgian-Victorian rise in urbanisation meant that police were more professional and armed criminals could be caught without the need for vigilantes. After the Dunblaine shootings where laws were tightened dramatically, many people (I remember this) were surprised to find out that many types of gun had previously been legal and so losing the right to have these was hardly a loss to anyone.
The narrator should do his homework!
The ratio may actually be better than he says near the beginning. He points out that the UK population is around 56,000,000? Wrong, that's England alone, the UK, etc....... has a population of just over 67,000,000 people.
Gun laws are different in Scotland and Northern Ireland than they are in England and Wales, so he’s not that far out. Also, depends when the video was made.
That taken into account, his main error is the video title.
@@ffotograffydd If that's the case, why did he state "UK" when quoting 56.000,000? Was that 11,000,00 included in the figures or not?
@@johnp8131 I don’t know why he stated that, mate, you’ll have to ask him. But gun laws in Scotland and Northern Ireland are different to in England and Wales, as a quick Google will tell you.
@@ffotograffydd As an ex Armourer I am aware of all of this.
I guess the Uzi is allowed because it has a detachable magazine and low caliber bullets.
Pretty much all the gun arguments about the US being different by gun nuts, its bigger, it has more dangerous animals, its a frontier nation and ex colony and has a big gun lobby are blown away by Australia because it had all those things x 10 but it still enacted sensible gun laws that have clearly had a huge positive effect.
Errr.......Ireland?!?!?
Please check out The Troubles.
The reason why 'home defense' or 'protection' isn't allowed as a valid reason to own a gun, is because shooting people is illegal for civilians. So stating your intention to shoot people when given cause is basically saying you intend to break the law. I know US licensing is somewhat less convoluted, but even there they ask 'do you plan to use this to commit a crime' and if you say 'yes', you don't get a gun.
Oh, about Ireland. Ireland became independent of the UK a hundred or so years ago. Most of Ireland, that is. Northern Ireland stayed with the UK and the situation was ... complicated. I'm not going into the details, because I'm not knowledgeable enough on the topic
Ryan, you are a parent. Sooner or later, you'll have to send your child to school and naturally, you'll expect him or her home at the end of each day, alive and unharmed. I know you have many, many schools over there where nothing bad ever happens, but I think you'll surely agree, even one school shooting is too many.... In the UK, that's the figure that has occurred - just once, and in 1997 - after which a national gun amnesty resulted in tens of thousands of illegal firearms being handed into police... Now the question is, which country is the safest for your child to attend school within - or, to put it another way, would you rather there was a small chance that your kid may never return from school - or would you prefer it if there was next to no chance? I know this is probably the most emotive gun-related argument there is, and I know children are more likely to be killed in road accidents or even fire or flood - but as your kids are likely to be your most precious assets, that I'm afraid is what you must consider... I would add that there are no wild animals in the UK that are likely to attack and kill either. We have the occasional incident with dogs, but that's it.
It is illegal to harm anyone whom you find within your home without your authority here. There have been numerous cases of intruders and burglars suing property owners - II know it doesn't seem altogether right, but that's how it is. At the end of the day, what price safety?
The number of guns in a country does say nothing about the crimes done with them. Switzerland for example has allot of guns but there is not much gun violence percentage wise. It comes down to the people and the conditions of living i think and a country need to be strict if it comes to people who can be dangerous. The biggest problem in the US is that there are allot of poor people who are living in neighbourhoods where is allot of crime so they probably will be a criminal later on in life too, so if you have allot of people who are forced to be criminals because they live in very bad conditions and there are many guns it is bad, but if most people live good in general or atleast acceptable and there are many guns you don't have the same problems. That is atleast my opinion on it.
Same in Spain only police and forced armed have guns
Very few Brits want guns.