The Career of Paul Coffey
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- čas přidán 28. 05. 2019
- He played for a lot of teams over his 1409 game career.
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You didn't talk about Coffey's skating ability. 3 strides form the defensive zone and he was up with the forwards. One of the best skaters of all time
That's what I remember most.
Indeed!
@@dakotaslim Yeah, That’s almost ALL I think of when somebody mentions him - smooth as silk and fast as a cheetah!
IIRC Coffey used speed skating skates, which are straighter for more grip for faster acceleration, rather than hockey skates which are rounded at the tips for more agility
I remember stories and jokes about that guy who flies on the ice, after the game he stumbles on his own feet!
One of the best skating defensemen I have ever seen...Coffey, Orr, Niedermayer, Karlsson...if I could skate like these guys, I would rule my weekend warrior games. Coffey had one of the best outlet passes I have ever seen....65 feet on the fly, out of the zone, tape-to-tape. That was always such a pretty sight. I had forgotten how much Coffey got moved around later in his career...too bad he never got traded to Vancouver to play with Bure and Mogilny. Those crazy outlet passes would have given those 2 guys a guaranteed breakaway every game, HahA! Thanks for posting!
Agree about Vancouver. And remember Gretzky was a few hours away from signing there as well if it wasn’t for John McCaw’s useless right-hand man screwing everything up.
I actually also remember Al Strachan saying the same thing you did about Coffey head-manning the puck to them (I don’t know why I remember this.)
Coffey was the best defenceman I ever saw play, the man was amazing. I find his career very interesting.
He had a chance to win 9 cups (5 with EDM, 2 PITT, 2 DET) but won only 4 due to being dealt by teams just before they won.
He also played with the 3 best centremen ever to play the game. Gretzky, Lemieux, Yzerman.
He also played with Lindros. Yes, he potentially could have won 9 cups, plus the '95 loss with the Wings to the Devils (potentially 10 cups). He was top scorer for the Wings that season (ahead of Yzerman and Federov). He also was mysteriously traded by the Kings to the Wings just before their '93 playoff run to the finals. He might have made the difference for the Kings vs Habs in that series...potentially earning him 11 cups (tied with the Pocket Rocket for most cups).
Bobby Orr,Ray Bourque, Dennis Potvin,Paul Coffey is my "Mount Rushmore" of All-time NHL Defensemen!
As an Isles fan all I can say is he was one of the greatest ever.
I will never forget watching the 1996 Conference Finals. In the same game Coffey scored 2 goals for the Red Wings and then scored an own goal for the Avalanche. If I recall correctly the Avalanche won that game in overtime and the series. Myself and my friends mockingly joked that Coffey had scored a hat trick. We all hated Coffey for his constant blunders when he played for Detroit. We made fun of him constantly. I regret not giving him the respect he deserved, but then again I was just 10 years old at the time.....
Here is the video of the own goal. That was a bad one! Probably the most embarrassing moment of his career. czcams.com/video/GrlVErwta6g/video.html
That 1997 1st rounder in exchange for Coffey turned out to be Scott Hannan. Piece of trivia right there.
You really are a hockey encyclopedia. So obvious you love the game.
Everyone Canadian is... And with Google this all can be looked up which i'm sure he does and makes references- like behind him on that white board- before he shoots his video- to look as if he knows everything about a given players in the video. Don't believe everything you see on CZcams!
Every time his name gets mentioned I think of a cup of coffee ☕️
That's better than what people think of when they hear my name. 😢
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Why?
I was lucky enough to attend many games in those firewagon hockey days of the 80's. I vividly remember being in awe of his skating ability. Long, powerful, and very graceful strides. Even if he didn't score I enjoyed watching him skate. There may be faster players, but none as efficient in transferring power to blade. It was really something to see.
Great comment.
I was a Hartford fan. Primeau was a fan favorite while here and Coffey I loved the guy here that brief time. Two of my favorites.
Top 3 offensive defense man of all time
Besides Orr who is the other u would have? I have a debate between Ray Bourque and Dennis Potvin.
Ray Bourque would be in there I think. Potvin and lidstrom would be right behind
@@jagartharn6361 I think that was more of a coaching difference. Had Lidstrom played for someone other than Bowman for most of his career I think his point totals would have been higher. He played the system to make the team better.
@@jagartharn6361 Leetch was good on defense and shouldn't be mentioned with names like Coffey and Karlsson, who are/were below average defensively. Leetch was probably one of the most complete defensemen who ever played. He had one of the best hip checks in the game. The Hockey Guy himself said that on another one of his videos. I seriously don't understand why a lot of people have this notion that Leetch was average on defense. He was the total package. An amazing 2-way player.
1. Bobby Orr
2. Brian Leetch
3. Al MacInnis
Paul Coffey has played a substantial number of games with amazing centers including: Gretzky, Lemieux, Yzerman and Lindros.
1. Orr
2. Lidstrom
3. Bourque
4. Coffey
5. Potvin
6. MacInnis
7. Stevens
8. Harvey
9. Niedermayer
10. Leetch
Forgot Pronger!! Who won the Hart, Norris & Cup during his career!!
Orr played like 650 games. Scored all his points against the god awful goalies of yesteryear. Horribly overrated, and absolutely not the #1 D in history.
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That's a pretty solid argument. For a D man to win the Hart in a league where 90 percent of the time? Very impressive. He did absolutely everything on the ice and was a mean SOB. Loved it 👊
Just to put it into perspective, I'm an Oiler fan and even after he pulled that trade request not a week after game 7 of the Final in 2006, he's still one of my favourite Oilers I've ever seen play the game 👍
@Fash out Bourque was a much better all around defenseman then coffee. He also played in the much smaller Boston garden for much of his career while coffee was playing with allstar Oilers during that time
@Fash out Coffee played with a hart trophy winner for like 9 years. Coffee edges Bourque in pure offensive skill but in every other category Bourque ties or wins.
Coffey is the reason I wore double 7 when I played
Ray Bourque was the reason I always wanted 77 as a kid.
He looks like Robert De Niro in the thumbnail
Paul Coffey, Ray Borque, Nicklas Lidstrom, Brian Leetch, Rob Blake, Chris Pronger, Al MacInnis & Scott Niedermeyer will forever be my favourite defense players.
They are my "Mount Rushmore" of All-time NHL Defensemen!
Coffey was an extremely advanced skater. He was Fred Astaire on ice. This guy could go from behind his net and score a goal in 6-7 graceful strides. Analyze his strides.
Hey honey are we going to watch Dancing with the Stars tonight? No dear we're going to analyze Paul coffeys strides
Fluid, efficient skating
Coffey over a point per game in playoffs only two other D men can say that, only D man to have two 40 goal seasons...all you need to know about him is that when Gretzky had him passing the puck he had 200 point seasons, after Coffey was traded he never came close to 200 again, then Super Mario had 199 points with Coffey passing him the puck. Best skater in history of game, so smooth and effortless
wow I never thought of that.
Good point. Coffey was important to the success of Mario and Wayne
The other 2 Dmen with over a point per game in the playoffs were Bobby Orr and Brian Leetch, in case anyone was wondering. 🙂
Brian Leetch you were great in playoffs Brian!
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I wish there were more highlights of Paul Coffey online because I wasn’t able to watch him
I called him Paul " I'm just going to score , F the defence" Coffey
That probably best describes Karlsson!!
Except Karlsson looks like he's never going to win a cup
One of my all-time favorites.
Man, you missed one thing which is never talked about with Coffey - 1800 penalty minutes. That is huge number. To put it in perspective, it's pretty much the same amount Zdeno Chara had after 1409 games played. Roles these two had couldn't be more different. What was it about the guy? I am too young to remember Coffey and I've always wonder why he had so many penalty minutes. Was he dirty or what was it? Anyway, thank you for video.
Here's a breakdown of his PIMs.
His 1,802 PIMs in the regular season:
676 Minor Penalties
44 Major Penalties
0 Match Penalties
16 Misconduct Penalties
6 Game Misconducts
His 264 PIMs in the playoffs:
90 Minor Penalties
12 Major Penalties
0 Match Penalties
1 Misconduct Penalty
1 Game Misconduct
Fabulous skater what a player
The AXIOM of the BEST DEFENSE is a GREAT OFFENSE applied to Paul Douglas Coffey!
I loved watching him as a kid. He was my favorite, guy could outright fly. 29 goals, 60 assists! Once he hurt his back, and now that I’ve hurt mine, I know it’s a lifelong pain, makes you feel broke in half.
I hurt my back a few years ago in a car accident. My car was at a red light when another car plowed into me. You don't realize how you good you had it before a back injury.
He is my all time favorite defenseman.
Any chance during these videos u could talk a little bit about where the player is from? Cuz most of us wouldnt know where these great players are from. Would be cool
Great presentation
still is my favorite defense man all time
Can you do a best rebuilds video?
I still cannot understand how Coffey scored 48 goals in 85-86 season. Nowdays only elite snipers score as many goals in a season
Different game and different style. Coffey played like a 4th forward not a defenseman. Also goaltending was terrible in the 80s and there weren't all these advanced defensive schemes.
theNikki1 the goaltending is just a little bit better 😁 today, check youtube
@@Aaronschinaguide I disagree on how bad goaltending was in the 80's. Everyone seems to act like goaltending was good before that, then became terrible, then great..
I think it had a lot more to do with the offensive minded way that era was played.
When guys like Grant Fuhr, Moog, Barrasso,Vernon, and even Roy can have garbage SV% or seasons in the high 3's in GAA, and some with 4's, I don't think it's the goalies that are the problem really. Lol. Just my opinion
The Oilers brought blending of the Euro style and North American style to the NHL. It wasn't the dump and chase, but puck control, skating and passing. The Oilers were so far ahead of the NHL, it took teams a long time to catch up. If Peter had the money, they would have kept all the star players until they retired, and added 4-5 more Cups!
I remember watching Coffey skate and he was like power skating and gliding by guys. Such a smooth skater. I think he played minor for Dixie Beehives in Mississauga, On
Coffey himself wore #77
and he played with Mark Messier #11, Charlie Huddy #22, Marty McSorley #33, Rob Brown #44, Larry Murphy #55, Mario Lemieux #66, Eric Lindros #88 and Wayne Gretzky #99.
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I now feel OLD! He retired 18 years ago!
19 now!
Damn that is pretty crazy
One of the best D man without a doubt.
No.
5 wins in a row for the penguins!!!!!! Let’s go 24-11-2!!!!
The NHL needs to have the Bobby Orr award- given to the best offensive defensemen. Have the Norris strictly based on defense!!
I just realized that Jimmy Carson was trade for both Gretzky and Coffey!!
I have an autographed Paul Coffey jersey hanging in my living room. so I guess I agree with you lol
Has anyone had better teammates than Paul Coffey during their careers.Wayne Gretzky
Mario Lemieux
Steve Yzerman
Sergei Federov
Nicklas Lidstrom
Mark Messier
Eric Lindros
Ron Francis
Jari Kurri
Jaromir Jagr
Luc Robitaille
Rob Blake
Igor Larionov
Vladimir Konstantinov
Keith Primeau
Joe Thornton
Kevin Stevens
Chris Chelios
Joe Mullen
Dino Ciccarelli
Mark Recchi
Glenn Anderson
John LeClair
Chris Osgood
Ron Hextall
Rod Brind'Amour
Doug Gilmour…….who im missing??;)
Mike Vernon!!
Bunch of bums no one has ever heard of.
Theoren Fleury! JK.
It is an insane list for sure.
Larry Robinson
Larry Murphy
Dave Taylor
Tom Barrasso
Grant Fuhr
Andy Moog
Gordie Howe
Shannon, I think that you were remiss in not acknowledging Steve Yzerman along with Wayne, Mario & Lindros as great players that played with Coffey. Also Nick Lidstrom definitely is in the discussion for GOAT right there with Borque. I loved watching Coffey play in Detroit - I think his game would transcend well to today's game.
In Pittsburgh, we have a thing with championships. The Steelers and even Pirates have a bunch too. That’s the standard the city would judge Coffey against. Since he only has one in our town, I doubt the Pens would retire his number. The fanbase would not accept it.
Instrumental in helping Pens win their first cup. Besides. No one else would have the Balls to wear 77 on the Pens.
He was awesome
It's a shame we have only the Norris for all round defense which normally goes for the best offensive defenseman, even though historically that went to be best at defense, i.e. defensive defenseman.
Create the Paul Coffey award for the best offensive defenseman
Thanks to the "Doctor" for all of his years in Pittsburgh.
What the Oilers need is the guys that made the 80's oilers as their management team. Those guys drafted off the chart superstars.
We want mini-Whalers mags Hockey guy!!!
Maybe one of the best skaters ever
I know my Sabres have only one player right now as fast and that’s Eichel. Coffey was a Rocket
Paul was so efficient with that skating stride. Wow!
I wonder why no one tried going all 'Red Kelly' on Coffey and play him as a forward. If he's not going to care about being a defensive liability, then play him as a winger and make sure you have a good defensive centerman the way Lafleur and Shutt had Lemaire.
He probably just likes coming in late as a 4th forward.
And when the puck is in his end, just play up high and get the other team's defense to get distracted by you the way it was with Gretzky, Lemieux, Bure and Mogilny.
That would be interesting to see (even if it fails!)
Coffey was like Orr, the best defense is a good offense
Carl Gunnarsson!!!!!!!!!!!
nice
The Oilers have a thing where they retire players numbers the same year as their induction.
I remember after the conclusion of the '97 finals, Scotty Bowman dropped a strong hint that he pushed for Coffey to be traded in both Pittsburgh and Detroit.
Yeah Bowman was a real asshole towards Coffey, he asked him to play forward before, he treated him like crap
Didn't Bowman treat alot of players like shit? Lol
Bowman didn't like anybody who didn't play defense or didn't do exactly what he told them to. It's ironic that so many Wings fans and staffers railed against the excesses of the dead puck era while loving Scotty, because he helped to birth and nurture that style of play.
@@doctorx3 I would put LeMaire ahead of Bowman. Scotty just wanted players to remember there was a defensive end to the rink. Jacques didn't want his players to leave it. 🙃🙃🙃
Lemaire was the supreme example for that style of play. He took it to the logical conclusion. Ken Hitchcock, Kevin Constantine, Darryl Sutter, and Ron Wilson were not far behind.
77 played with 99, 88 and 66
"Coffey, sah -- like the drink, only spelled diff'rent."
damn Oilers management even has ex-oiler players that I didn't know worked for them!
paul coffey wore number 74 with his short stay with the bruins
You should profile the career of Bernie Federko! Blues alumni..big part of an org that just won it all.
hey paul.. whos your centers in your career... gretzky, lemieux and yzerman...
Would you consider him the Brent Burns before Brent Burns (only better)?
No talk of the iconic stick?
I'd like to know how does he hold up if there was no Gretzky, no Lemieux, or no Yzerman to play on the same line with.
Coffey has s always been a forward!
Paul Coffey is from Moose factory Ontario....right? He used to play for the moose factory scrappers class A hockey
Top 5 d-man all-time
Please do a vid on Peter Pocklington. The dude was so shady, you can easily fill a vid about him.
Coffey was one of the best passers ever! Many times he would have the puck at his own end and hit a forward-usually Gretzky for a breakaway or an out numbered attack. Gretzky never played with another great passing defensemen. All the defensemen he played with after Coffey were better with the puck.
Gretzky & company didn't want Steve Smith to be hockey's version of Bill Buckner(RIP)!!
Heard he is coming out of retirement to join the habs!
Blair Rogers
As a player, or just part of the organization?
Was Paul Coffey when the Norris changed from best defenseman to best offensive defenseman?
(It feels like it has been that way ever since, which is why a defensive liability like PK Subban can win a norris despite not playing any defense)
That's why I can't stand PK
One of the best players in today's generation that probably won't win a cup for that reason
Michel Goulet pls !
You mention Scotty Bowman being unhappy and trading Coffey from the Wings.
It was also Bowman who took over the 91-92 Penguins after Bob Johnson died and promptly traded Coffey again. Man didn't like Coffey and ended up costing him a couple cups.
9 wasn't enough for Bowman?
Coffey wanted to come to Toronto but Ballard wouldn't pay.
Retired in bolton - 1/2 hour NW of Toronto
I admire Paul's amazing talent, but I am no fan of defensemen who leave their goalie compromised. I was happy when my Pens traded him.
All these points these players got back in the day did goalies even stop the pucks back then
Yeah they stopped them from bouncing back out of the net. 🙃🙃🙃
bruh moment
Seems like a great player, but hung around about 6 seasons too long
Great extra forward. With another team, it wouldn't have worked. If I'm behind or on the power play, I'll take him. I prefer my defensemen to play some defense. Besides their offensive skill, the Oilers also had a fantastic goalie in Fuhr. During his time with Edmonton, I'll take Bourque over him any day.
Why? Bourque was no game changer. He was good. But obviously, not good enough, to help win a cup with Boston. He was a training wheel, on a Colorado team, that would have won without him.
@@biscuitsforsmut2791 100% agree with you. Bourque is overrated in my opinion. He was a stat compiler who couldn't bring a Cup to Boston despite MANY opportunities. Coffey was a game changer. Leetch was a game changer. MacInnis was a game changer. All these guys have HISTORIC playoff runs. Bourque doesn't. He was a "solid" consistent Dman his entire career, but not a game changer.
has Coffey won cups with Lemieux and Gretzky?
I remember when Detroit traded Paul to Hartford...he was not happy one bit to be going to the Whalers.
Bowman made him take a plane all the way across the country even though he knew he was traded then said after plane landed ok get back on
Neither was Brendan Shanahan!!
Paul Cawfee
His first 4 teams are some of the most successful and loaded teams ever assembled, his last 4 teams.... not so much.
Great player, but his steep decline was sad to watch.
He was great until age 34, today players are washed up at age 32(forwards).
Lids the best . Orr first
wouldn't that be fun if he did go back and play in 1969 and then we could really see who was better between him and Orr lol
Orr’s Dad watched Coffey for first time and told his Son “he’s faster than you”...I’ve heard Orr tell the story a few times.
Denis Potvin was better. Scored over 300 goals. Could play defense. Numbers didn't really drop off, even at the end of his career.
The only thing I remember about paul is him scoring in his own net in the playoffs. Detroit was better off without him
You mean on the down side of his career? Probably...
@@richardmyers5732 1996
Hung around way too long. Was useless for the Flyers in 97. Did the flamingo in the finals vs Detroit. That's what I remember about Coffey.
By then he had lost his wheels, which exposed his defensive liabilities. He relied on his offensive prowess in his early years, and when that was gone, well you said it.
Person Of Interest First ballot hall of famer . And in his defense. The Flyers sucked in 97. Once the rest of the NHL figured out Lindros’s weakness (contact) Flyers we’re done.
@@biscuitsforsmut2791 Going to the finals means you suck?
You should do a little more research.
Person Of Interest I’ve witnessed 5 Stanley cup championships here in Pittsburgh. Half of the last Flyer team to win a championship, are dead now.
@@biscuitsforsmut2791 ah, a typical bandwagon fraud Pens fan.
Your building will be empty soon enough after Crosby is done.
We all know the history of your fan base.
The caffeinated Coffey compared to the decaf Coffey
Hmmm. Noticed a trend...Red Wing fans seem to hate him now a days 🤔
You know that when you try and get a player after his prime production years from a successful team that it usually doesn't work out right?
@@richardmyers5732 It worked out great we got Shannahan and that put us over the top for some cup wins
Shame Coffey was just shopped around after Pittsburgh just dumped him for no reason! Anybody know why the Pens shipped him out for that trash trade?
Coffey just missed his chances to get a 4th cup with Oilers and a 2nd with Pens
After winning his four Cups, he was in the finals with Detroit in 1995 and with Philadelphia in 1997.
Didnt know Coffey scored 713 points in his first season with the pens
He wasn't too good at defense .
I take coffey over orr .. to easy for me