The difference between hbox and leffen. When leffen looses he throws tantrums, and whines on the internet. When hbox kept loosing during the 5 God era. He buckled down, got a little help, and got good.
@@chiShija So was hungry box for years. and he struggled to win when all the other gods were in attendance. basically never doing so for years. Until he did how did he do it? He buckled down and got good. THat's the difference between HBox and Leffen. Hbox looses and comes back trying to do better. Leffen looses and rants on twitter about how every one is so trash but him.
@@typhoon1575 Pretty much why HBox ended up earning everyone's respect in the end. Because as we know, getting good wasn't the only wall he had to climb.
These all look like really old clips, don't they? These clips really should be dated. Just because it was uploaded in 2019 doesn't mean it recently happened.
@@WowMyNameIsUnique I didnt even say anything about the clips though. This was just a little joke at his expense. I haven't seen him throw any controllers recently anyway, but that ego sure hasnt changed.
@@oohfun241 Why wouldn't you be talking about his ego in reference to these clips? You're commenting on the video about it and made no effort to specify any other subject. I certainly haven't seen any of this behavior since I started watching him (casually) in the past year. He can certainly be harsh and opinionated, but if someone hates him for that, it's pretty hypocritical, don't you think? Anyway, I just think it's funny how everyone is using this video of (very likely) old clips as reasoning for why they dislike him. If you're really not using this video as a vehicle to do so like you claim, you're definitely in the minority if these upvoted comments are any indication.
@@WowMyNameIsUnique Just because you've watched him a bit doesn't mean that somebody else isn't inclined to make a joke. People don't need a reason hate its the internet and lastly your option isn't discredited just because its not "popular".
@@vegaplus420 I think it's more like he just doesn't want to admit that he lost so he gives them the win. Even if not, its more respectful to finish the set.
I need to see him fall victim to a stage clip on Pokémon stadium’s fire formation before I can die happy. Even better if he falls to a Samus charge shot stage clip.
people use to honestly say Hbox was the villain of melee im positive its Leffen for sure, i'd always get this vibe from him like he's the guy to say he's chosen to be among the 5 gods or something
@Chandler Bruh sad bro, nobody expected that. I still loving smash comunity, Leffen is such the good boy now even when too much people hated him. #Respect
Mango is actually notably petty. Just has cult fans who try to convince you otherwise. If you want something resembling consistently respectful you probably want armada or something.
@@Stryker1297Yeah that's true enough. Mango is unusually competitive and as PPMD put it, "usually abrasive." Still, I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as Leffen. Considering all the controversy around him and his disdain for the likes of people like HBox who, despite playing using unconventional tactics that are difficult to really practice against, he has plenty of dirt on him compared to someone like Mango who, aside from the occasional mishap or behavior, is honestly more of a brute than anything else.
leffen cries and whines when he loses but acts high and mighty when he wins. his mentality is holding him back so much that as much as i hate him it also sucks to see so much talent being wasted, he's like the ben simmons of FGC
He has such a negative vibe when I go to his streams. On compilations he's just salty, rule-sharking (3+ more incidents at this point), gets tilted really easily, and just complains about things.
@@WiiGi tbh tho that's just the melee community from what I see a bunch of pricks. They seem to have a hatred for almost anything that isn't melee, not all if them but a noticeable amount, it's like done of them have no respect for themselves or each other tbh
Not defending any inappropriate behavior, but sometimes admitting defeat isn't all too bad, especially if the match isn't on the line. Some people give up on singular games because they don't want the other player to further read their playstyle for the next game.
People sometimes spend hundreds of dollars for flights to these tournaments, and you're going to rob them of an honest game because you want to hide your playstyle?
@@shoopoop21 cant believe this needs to be clarified but paying people to stalk your opponents in advance of a match is not even close to equivalent to throwing your last stock in a video game because you just dont feel it
Why did Leffen throw the controller? Was there something wrong with it? Was it just a tantrum? I remember hearing something about him refusing to play with GameCube controllers unless it was one of like 10% of all GameCube controllers
I sat and listened to just one of leffens streams and I’ve watched a couple of videos on his CZcams channel. The guy is clearly a deeply depressed individual and has been that way for a long time. I somewhat feel sorry for him but at the same time he perpetuates negativity and makes it worse for himself. He has a huge ego problem and he may even be narcissistic in the literal sense.
So, everyone deserves to cheer and be cheered for when they win something on a stage like this. TIL that quitting like this makes it hard for people to enjoy their right to celebrate without feeling like they're cheering against someone... You almost end up framing yourself as the bad guy, both in your head and to whoever was gonna cheer anyways.
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I understand leffens frustration he not only loses the match but every time he does he is near a venue full of gamers that smell like expired ham. From experience a place full of smelly players that borderline deserves to be quarantined it can mess up your concentration
I'm a year late, but this comment..... This comment is the most acrobatic and amazing display of mental gymnastics I have EVER witnessed. You seriously gonna use that to justify Leffen behaving like this?
Lol, smash is entirely made up of gimmicky shitters. It is only Fox and Falco that play the same, the rest of the cast is gimmicks and don't play like each other at all... Exactly what youd expect from a party game tbh
@randy K15 lmao you're actually piffed, calling me delusional and being an arrogant dick to me because you believe your opinion could be the only correct one and therefore I'm deluded. Hmmm, seems like you've become what you hate the most. Also, leffen hasnt spiked a controller since like 2013, hes reformed now. He may talk a lot of shit but that's the role of a villain. Sure you're supposed to root against him but not hate him as a person. That's like hating Bret hart or shawn Michael's as a person even though they're playing up this evil facade. I think you're the deluded one who needs to grow up kid
Wow Leffen seems like a really reasonable and positive person
This aged well.
Bruh why was leffin being an asshole to every player even worse by talking shit to hbox and zero
DEADFEAR because he’s Smash’s villain
@@silvesta5027 the community of burger flippers he’d rather be apart of.
@@silvesta5027 this Aged well xdd
„Leffen is not in Top 8“ that sentence put a smile on my Face.
You are on this council, but we do not grant you the rank of Smash God
Underrated comment
*unpulgs controller, leaves, and tweets "this is an outrage! this is unfair!"
“How can I be on the council but not a smash master!”
he'll probably always be top 8 but he'll never be a god. literally just because of how much of an asshole he is
Lol hes not the chosen one, hes sebulba
1:11
*Hmmmm yes. The floor here is made out of floor.*
Not trying to be THAT guy but how is the floor made out of floor
Because i said it is. DuH
huh?
@@bb-xw1np mew2KING the KING
I don't get it. Can someone please explain?
Leffen is probably my least favorite Smash player out of the big names, to me he just seems so up his own ass
Salem is my second favorite player and I hate Leffen the most
This aged beautifully lol
You're wrong here. It doesn't seem like he's up his own ass, he IS up his own ass.
because he always is lol
You just know that Leffen went home and tweeted something about why you should hate (insert something here) and hbox
To be fair, the ledge limit should have been created, much, much, much, much earlier. If you have a good puff main in your group, you know.
@@shoopoop21 airtime limit 🤣
The difference between hbox and leffen.
When leffen looses he throws tantrums, and whines on the internet.
When hbox kept loosing during the 5 God era. He buckled down, got a little help, and got good.
Damn maybe he should just stop playing such a bad character since every other character is so op.
MARTH FOX MU IS 60-40??????
Or he could get good.
@@typhoon1575he’s still ranked top 5
@@chiShija So was hungry box for years. and he struggled to win when all the other gods were in attendance. basically never doing so for years.
Until he did
how did he do it? He buckled down and got good.
THat's the difference between HBox and Leffen. Hbox looses and comes back trying to do better.
Leffen looses and rants on twitter about how every one is so trash but him.
@@typhoon1575 Pretty much why HBox ended up earning everyone's respect in the end. Because as we know, getting good wasn't the only wall he had to climb.
I really hope he gets his ego in check one day.
But that's probably impossible since he would rage quit before looking at it
These all look like really old clips, don't they? These clips really should be dated. Just because it was uploaded in 2019 doesn't mean it recently happened.
@@WowMyNameIsUnique I didnt even say anything about the clips though. This was just a little joke at his expense. I haven't seen him throw any controllers recently anyway, but that ego sure hasnt changed.
@@oohfun241 Why wouldn't you be talking about his ego in reference to these clips? You're commenting on the video about it and made no effort to specify any other subject.
I certainly haven't seen any of this behavior since I started watching him (casually) in the past year. He can certainly be harsh and opinionated, but if someone hates him for that, it's pretty hypocritical, don't you think?
Anyway, I just think it's funny how everyone is using this video of (very likely) old clips as reasoning for why they dislike him. If you're really not using this video as a vehicle to do so like you claim, you're definitely in the minority if these upvoted comments are any indication.
@@WowMyNameIsUnique Just because you've watched him a bit doesn't mean that somebody else isn't inclined to make a joke. People don't need a reason hate its the internet and lastly your option isn't discredited just because its not "popular".
@@WowMyNameIsUnique bro, fuck off will ya?
I like Leffen but I don’t like Leffen you know
Most accurate statement of the century
Understandable have a nice day.
Emishimaru - Sama - Is that a Cowbelly reference?
Solarwolf13 no it’s a fatality reference
It was actually a Just a Pancake reference xD
I love the “he does shake is hand.. kind of.”
I wonder if he uses this to tell people that he's never been properly beaten by certain players
idk I think it’s psychological
If he SDs his ego doesn’t have to face the fact that someone beat him
No he’s just simply admitting defeat. It’s actually really respectable to see him admit defeat during those times
@@vegaplus420how
@@arat9904 cuz he knew when he had enough it’s a Roberto Duran mike Tyson typa thing
@@vegaplus420 I think it's more like he just doesn't want to admit that he lost so he gives them the win. Even if not, its more respectful to finish the set.
Man, that controller spike was so loud. Years later and it still doesn't get old.
I can’t believe Leffen rage quit 4 times and threw his controller
I can
He's the whiniest smash player ever, no one else is surprised
the classic misplay into ragequit combo
You guys realize that m2k thought they were gonna fistbump and leffen laughed when he rejected him even when he got bopped
He did though, it's just a bit hard to see
Leffen and Samus lol
I need to see him fall victim to a stage clip on Pokémon stadium’s fire formation before I can die happy. Even better if he falls to a Samus charge shot stage clip.
hes not even losing that bad in some of the clips, why give up?
Cause hes a bitch
Cause he rages/complains about everything.
Leffen is a great player and I'm not gonna hate. It's clearly just a bad mindset and too much ego. He really needs to work on that
He knows when he's too tilted to win, and continuing the game would just pointless.
@@lam8952 still he can still do it but he gives up like a pussy
Love watching him and ltg lose.
people use to honestly say Hbox was the villain of melee im positive its Leffen for sure, i'd always get this vibe from him like he's the guy to say he's chosen to be among the 5 gods or something
If I’m ever having a bad day, I just look at this video
controller spike at 3:33
Down throw off the ledge
Zero: Do the Leffen!
@Chandler Bruh sad bro, nobody expected that. I still loving smash comunity, Leffen is such the good boy now even when too much people hated him. #Respect
Luck feffen
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SOMETHING SOMETHING DARK TRIAD
good mathematics
This was cathartic as fuck.
Imagine if mango threw when he was down stocks lmao. He wouldnt be Mango
he's done that several times
He is almost as bad as leffen tho. He is still pretty petty.
like at shine 2016?
Mango is actually notably petty. Just has cult fans who try to convince you otherwise. If you want something resembling consistently respectful you probably want armada or something.
@@Stryker1297Yeah that's true enough. Mango is unusually competitive and as PPMD put it, "usually abrasive."
Still, I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as Leffen.
Considering all the controversy around him and his disdain for the likes of people like HBox who, despite playing using unconventional tactics that are difficult to really practice against, he has plenty of dirt on him compared to someone like Mango who, aside from the occasional mishap or behavior, is honestly more of a brute than anything else.
leffen cries and whines when he loses but acts high and mighty when he wins. his mentality is holding him back so much that as much as i hate him it also sucks to see so much talent being wasted, he's like the ben simmons of FGC
baby rage baby rage
"That's rare for Leffen"
*Clearly it isn't*
Bruh Leffen retrospective when
Leffen is the guy we love to hate
I don’t think this is very related, but I think Leffen is the youngest child in his family.
lmaoooo. Can you make another video entertaining people who don't like leffen :)
He has such a negative vibe when I go to his streams. On compilations he's just salty, rule-sharking (3+ more incidents at this point), gets tilted really easily, and just complains about things.
WiiGi he has some dumbass complaints in this video czcams.com/video/_QniSojNQr0/video.html
@@WiiGi tbh tho that's just the melee community from what I see a bunch of pricks. They seem to have a hatred for almost anything that isn't melee, not all if them but a noticeable amount, it's like done of them have no respect for themselves or each other tbh
There are a couple notes of respect your elders right at the end of the video lmao
This whole video is soooo Leffen.
Idk where all the hype for leffen comes from. He's petty.
Lol leffen just sd when he is down by one stock, now that's a positive mindset at work
Leffen Ragequits a GG Strive tournament, live!
Its so funny that leffen lost so much to melee and decided to quite the game for strive playing the easiest character in the game lol
He also plays the best character in Melee and complains that he isn’t actually that good in Melee also.
you should reupload this video but add bighouse
Not defending any inappropriate behavior, but sometimes admitting defeat isn't all too bad, especially if the match isn't on the line. Some people give up on singular games because they don't want the other player to further read their playstyle for the next game.
People sometimes spend hundreds of dollars for flights to these tournaments, and you're going to rob them of an honest game because you want to hide your playstyle?
@@shoopoop21 yes, its a pro tournament, its PROFESSIONAL you take all the edges you get to win
@@princesstoni8116 how about paying people to stalk them online? THE MENTAL GAME COMES FIRST RITE?
@@shoopoop21 cant believe this needs to be clarified but paying people to stalk your opponents in advance of a match is not even close to equivalent to throwing your last stock in a video game because you just dont feel it
Why did Leffen throw the controller? Was there something wrong with it? Was it just a tantrum? I remember hearing something about him refusing to play with GameCube controllers unless it was one of like 10% of all GameCube controllers
XD He hugs Ice and yet throws his controller. Might as well have thrown his controller at Ice, bet it would have hurt less.
Best title on YT
I sat and listened to just one of leffens streams and I’ve watched a couple of videos on his CZcams channel. The guy is clearly a deeply depressed individual and has been that way for a long time. I somewhat feel sorry for him but at the same time he perpetuates negativity and makes it worse for himself. He has a huge ego problem and he may even be narcissistic in the literal sense.
2:37 this fun fact isn't true? not sure how you could think Leffen and Duck have only played 2 sets with each other lmao
you do know this was posted 8 months ago right???????
@@heroofsomethin9412 yeah but still
Rensi i wrote that 2 weeks ago, so time passed and the video became 9 months old yeah
Rensi ur MOM is reupload AYYYYYYYYYYY
Bro
he meant the two moments when duck and leffen played best of 5
Tha 🐐
Tf are you talking about..
This is litterally a video showing "the goat" how much of a manchild full of his own ego is..
@@sazakrom106 a year late but I was trolling lol
M2K's 6-0 over Leffen after Big Leff called M2K washed up never gets old
3:33 enjoy
Friendly reminder that hax was always right about leffen.
Lmao
The way he just gives up is so relatable
So, everyone deserves to cheer and be cheered for when they win something on a stage like this. TIL that quitting like this makes it hard for people to enjoy their right to celebrate without feeling like they're cheering against someone... You almost end up framing yourself as the bad guy, both in your head and to whoever was gonna cheer anyways.
Leffen gameplay really the most boring shit to watch
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I understand leffens frustration he not only loses the match but every time he does he is near a venue full of gamers that smell like expired ham. From experience a place full of smelly players that borderline deserves to be quarantined it can mess up your concentration
The problem is he would make fun of other players when they lost and call them trash but then he would go and rage quit like a cry baby.
@@renamamiya5997 true
I'm a year late, but this comment..... This comment is the most acrobatic and amazing display of mental gymnastics I have EVER witnessed. You seriously gonna use that to justify Leffen behaving like this?
@@renamamiya5997 you ever hear of someone being competitive, if you take his trash talk personally you have a problem
Leffen is a bigg L
I don’t like him but i respect him at least
my opinion has changed about this video. Yes i agree with you 100%
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Boreworm Boreworm :^(
Ryan H Cuz’ he is a BITTLE LITCH
Hes not peoples chap hes peoples b*tch
This makes me happy, I don't like leffen
All of these clips are old, most of this comment section is ignorant or biased
@randy K15 ok
This video is a reupload from years ago to be fair.
smash babies crying
dont blame him for quitting against a samus, nobody wants to lose to gimmicky shitters.
seems like somebody is bad at the samus matchup
how bout playing against this instead? 🖕
Lol, smash is entirely made up of gimmicky shitters. It is only Fox and Falco that play the same, the rest of the cast is gimmicks and don't play like each other at all... Exactly what youd expect from a party game tbh
With "sdio main" in your username, I can tell you aren't someone that likes to have to think about the game they're playing.
@@wildcard13294 i made the account before I switched to hol so now who's the stupid idiot...
I cant help but do the leffen smirk when I see people genuinely angered with him. It's not that serious lmao
Just his face appearance makes him look like a toxic, stubborn child thats full of his own ego..
powerowl2120 I cant help but do the leffen smirk every time he gets his ass shut up
@randy K15 lmao you're actually piffed, calling me delusional and being an arrogant dick to me because you believe your opinion could be the only correct one and therefore I'm deluded. Hmmm, seems like you've become what you hate the most. Also, leffen hasnt spiked a controller since like 2013, hes reformed now. He may talk a lot of shit but that's the role of a villain. Sure you're supposed to root against him but not hate him as a person. That's like hating Bret hart or shawn Michael's as a person even though they're playing up this evil facade. I think you're the deluded one who needs to grow up kid
lol its only not serious when he wants it to not be youre a joke dude lmao
@@powerowl2120 did you tell me to go practice wave dashes? take your L you loser and go on a date
Leffen the guy who thinks ledge hogging is exciting and interactive gameplay that should come back. Yeah... no.
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