New CK Stage Pianos from Yamaha | CK61 and CK88
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The latest Yamaha keyboards to grace the stage expertly balance portability-minded design with vast sonic depth. Enter: the CK61 and the CK88. Jacob Dupre is joined by Yamahaâs Blake Angelos to show off the full scope of these spectacular stage pianos. Check it out!
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0:00 Swinginâ on the blues
2:37 Yamaha CK61 and CK88 Overview
10:26 Sounds/Presets
10:35 CFX Reflections Grand Piano
12:58 Tines & Reeds
16:33 Strings
18:57 Horn Section
19:54 Organ
22:48 Guitars
23:46 Synth Layer
27:11 Leads
29:16 Yamaha REC âNâ SHARE App
30:07 Pro Level Features
31:53 Jazz nerds rock out - Hudba
Yamahaâs CK series of stage pianos masterfully blend nuanced performance with a lightweight design, letting you take versatile, high-fidelity sound virtually anywhere, with ease! Let us know where youâre taking your CK61 or CK88 in the comments below! đ
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I don't know what Yamaha pays Blake Angelos, but it's not enough. The guy is pure gold for them!
This is exactly what I need.
An affordable Stage Keyboard, so I donât have to shell out 5 grand for a Nord
Great keyboard! and I really wish I had another 30 minutes of you both playing, awesome jam!
There is a heck of a lot of features packed into these pianos. Wow.
I love how this piano player improvises on classical themes
amazing - simple, user friendly, great to take for practices, rehearsals and even gigs. Love it
Great demo! Seems like the most user-friendly piece of gear I've seen in a long time! Plus loaded with usable features!
Enfin !!! đđœđŻđ„depuis le temps que jâattendais ça de yamaha !
Things I like about the CK so far: 1) non-rubberized pitch bend/mod wheels that won't get sticky over time. 2) Bluetooth. 3). External keyboard MIDI settings.
On the other hand...wait! No flash RAM for loading new samples?! Maybe this is meant for a different market than, say, Montage/MODX/Nord users. The CK is for someone who doesn't want or care about adding custom samples as time goes on. But it's a deal-breakable for me. (I'm also constantly disappointed that Yamaha doesn't release more sample libraries for their existing lines, compared to Nord, who have an extensive and growing library of samples.)
bro, what keyboard do u recomend to make The Killers songs? i just wanna make covers, meanly Hot Fuss album. Do I need CK or a Nord?
By far, the best demo of this synth. You two should always work together and review synths as you are doing it here. Thank you. This might be my 2nd synth
Love this demo! This looks way funner to play on then a over priced nord !
Very well done demo of the Yamahas, information comes with a very entertaining stile. (As a Clavia Nord enthusiast) I ordered one in Germany for testing, but Iâm pretty shure Iâll keep it đ thanks for making such good videos at Sweetwater!!
Thanks for the support, Georg! đ
GREAT playing guys. Thanks
This keyboard has the potential to be the best portable on the market. Very decent piano samples and independent organ... Nice move!
Yes! And those overdriven Rhodes đ€©
Amazing guy's loved the jam đ
As expected - some playin' for real!
I love the 80s look of this keyboard
Wonderful stuff â€ïžđŻ
That acoustic guitar sound was killer
Seeing him talk about the FX just makes me wish Yamaha would make a more interesting/attractive CP piano. Imagine if they made a CP61 that was simple and retro-sexy like the Reface CP!
With you on that one
This was a delight to watch and listen to.
I've been looking forward to this because I may buy another YC61
Brilliant playing, fellas!
The CK 61, would be great in my home studio.
Looks like Yamaha is finally getting to the market that Rolandâs RD88 addressed a few years ago. Great addition of the reface YC drawbars to this platform but the organ tones could be better.
I was thinking the same, have the RD88 and love it
Greatest keyboard 's playing with,
ultimate performance keyboard
Awesome keyboard!
Jacob and Blake, you guys are both such great players, you make these new boards sound awesome. Quick question, is the new YC Rotary emulation 'Studio' available in either of the CK models, or is it just the two effects library choices?
Hello, great question! It looks like the rotary emulations are either a âstandardâ rotary (Rotary A) and one with a transistor preamplifier with strong distortion (Rotary B).
Let us know if you have any other questions. Thanks!
Jason Filloramo, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1281, Jason_Filloramo@sweetwater.com
I might get the Ck 61 to pair up with my Yamaha Modx7
Jacob, youâre a beast. I love your reviews.
No comparison to their s90, they've created a monster with that one, even after fifteen years, that one's going to be tough to beat for years to come
The S90ES from the mid 2000s was a killer stage piano but it also had killer weight for lugging it around for gigs and it was too long to fit easily into smaller cars. Saying that, it's still a fantastic instrument with those beautiful MOTIFES sounds and fantastic action. B
S90 all the way brother⊠đââïž âŠ. Keyboard that Iâll never sell âđœs90âïž
I hope you mean S90es not the s90 cause the S90 is ok but the S90es blows it out the water
Great board!!!
Awesome . I love Yamaha
Great video, I'm looking for a cheap board for jam nights, leaving the Nord for the paid gigs, looks like it's worth a real life demo.
Hmm... Nord just introduced the Stage 4 88 for $5700 and this new CK88 is $1500. (American dollars). A keyboardist consumer has to wonder if the Nord is really worth $4200 dollars more than the CK88. And before you say the Nord S4 has the Wave 2 engine built in, that 4200 bucks in savings buys one hell of a synth to go along with the CK88. Disclaimer - I own a Nord Stage 3 and an Electro 6. If this Yamaha board was available a couple of years ago however...
This exactly! Even when you compare the stage 4 to the more comparable YC88 the savings is still massive and hard to justify the price tag of the Stage 4
bro I need an advice, I wanna make covers of The Killers, meanly Hot Fuss and Battleborn Album, do you recomend CK? or any Nord? what about Roland?
@@arturomma8560 I'm not that familiar with The Killers but I would assume that anyone of these boards would get the job done.
Gréùt demo
Halfway in the video now and it kind of reminds me of the Roland VR09 Combo. Letâs see what else is there.
Went through the data list in the manual: it actually has a lot more of the bread ân butter sounds than the CP and YC series. Itâs also nice to have all the same organ emulations from the reface YC + pipe organ. For a gigging musician, this is a very attractive board so to say. I hope there will be a lot of this stuff/voices added to my CP with the next firmware updateâŠ
Nice. Finally the Yamaha Nord.
The CK88 would be perfect here in Vegas!
Sounds great.Can CK play midi files?
Is the CK multi-timbral
Thanks for the demo
can you use the Organ drawbars to control differnt sounds?
Hi super demo thanks.Can i adjust the speed of the lesly rotery? Gr. Ness
You guys always do a great job of presenting. For me I'm trying to downsize so this is a useful little downgrade for me , moving from the YC73 to the CK61 shortly!
You could consider the YC61 as well, if you think you will miss the larger drawbar section. The YC61 is also pretty light at only 15lb.
U guys are awesome hope can win one I'm been following unguys a long time
Great Demo guys. What amplification was used for the CK 88 The lows were thunderous and the drives were clean
What is the synth sound he's using at the end? And with the detuned oscillators? That sounds so cool!!
The Yamaha Nord!!!!
The 61 is mini and fun for home use if you don't have space. But for me, I like a larger type with a light key pressure. I also don't understand why Yamaha only made the MINI 61 and then the large 88. I thought I'd get that 88 , but it has a heavy key pressure. It's all about my peeling pleasure. When I perform and I'm careful not to hide my keyboard, I better stay at home. I need the space to play so I go for a large model. If this one doesn't come, I'll go for another brand, which is a pity because the 61 is great, too bad it's so small. The CK61 is for little people my hands get a syndrome so little this keybord is .
I bought a CK61 and it has the worst key action of any product I have ever owned.
The keys feel as if there is a pressure hinge under each key. There is a key resistance initially and then the key resistance is overcome and the key goes down.
When playing medium velocity broken chords in a ballad suddenly the key just barks at full volume.
Then when playing staccato on non decaying sounds like trumpet, there is a key bounce / note retrigger.
I have sent videos to Yamaha about this and waiting for an outcome.
Yamaha are going to need to fix the key action on the CK61. Other forums are filling up with people complaining about the key action.
Am sold....will try out the CX 61...what's the price?
Pretty please could we get an update for some plain sawtooth? Only one thing missing from this keyboard is that I canât get a decent talkbox sound. If we have sawtooth with 100% sustain, itâd suit my every need
Thanks for the review! Would love it if you could add timestamps :)
How will ck61 work along with genos?
I was seriously considering buying a YC73. I wouldâve preferred the 88 key but I wanted to keep the weight to 30lbs. With the new firmware update, the YC got an amazing Leslie simulation, excellent electric and acoustic pianos. Does the CK have the same organs, Leslie sim, acoustic, and electric pianos that the YC61/73/88 has. If they are all the same sound engines then why is it half the price of the YC series? I guess what Iâm asking does the CK give you everything the YC series does? What are the differences between the CK and YC series?
Samples vs modeled organ sounds and other differences
I saw elsewhere that the CK organ is more like the Reface one, so it uses samples, compared with the YC61, which uses modelling. I guess that means it's probably going to be less "organic" (pun intended) than the YC61
I've been trying to snoop around for these answers too. I have a YC73 and I absolutely love the organ sound (only after the firmware update).
The organ on the CK series is based off the same engine as the Reface YC organ (this is mentioned in the video at around 21:15 ). To me it sounds completely different; and in my opinion the YC73 is a much better organ sound. Shame, because I love everything ELSE about the CK.
@@ianperesmusic Iâm wondering about how the acoustic and electric piano sounds on the YC73 compares to the CK series. Also, Iâm curious if anyone has actually played the CK88 and the YC 73 and their thoughts on the action. There seems to be a lot of people who donât care for the GHS action on the CK88.
@@jhn1987 I have played the CK88 alongside the MODX88 , they have the same GHS keyed but it has been tweaked for the CK88., much tighter IMHO ,really good and I dont know what the problem people have with it ,it was never gonna have the keybed of the YC88 cos it would've put the price of the keyboard up ...its quite common for companies the tweak an existing Keybed for new products Nord do it all the time
Is this the as the MODX 88 sound switching not cut off? how many layer of sound?
very cool! *Question!* can those organ draw bars be mapped as midi CC faders when using this with a DAW?
Hi, Dillon - thanks for your interest! Yes, the drawbars can send MIDI CC messages when using the CK as a MIDI controller.
Feel free to contact me directly with any further questions, and thanks again!
Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
Any good pipe organ sound inside? I didn't bought the yc because of this gap...
Hey guys, keep in mind this is just a synth where you can emulate some organ sounds. It is not a workstation synth thou
Where are the drum rhythms/patterns coming from?
I have a MODX8 but I'm thinking of switching it out for something that's a little more streamlined (and simplified?) to play out with. The price seems good. I wonder how much of the MODX8 is in the CK88? Seems like a fair amount. I hope that the acoustic grand piano sound doesn't have an overemphasized low (under middle C) end.
I'll suggest don't do that, MODX8 is a fantastic keyboard and you'll be losing quite a bit of functions and capabilities.
These in stock now?
Are there any plans for a CK73 weighted?
Excellent!
However; as a live performer I would LOVE a built in, rechargeable battery + a 76 key version.
Great review. Is this a watered down cheaper version of the YC model? Iâve been eyeing the YC 73 for sometime now. The CK maybe a good alternative.
The organ is actually an updated Reface YC model - the same sample based organs, but with 2 of the 3 Leslie effects from the big YC, and an updated vibe/chorus. Then it has 4 decent pianos, and sample based synth sounds. So, no modeled or fm sounds, unlike on the YC61 and up. And I think the YC61/73/88 also have a better Leslie option. And the CK61 is definitely a different set of keys than the YC61. Plenty of reasons to pay more for a YC, depending on what you need.
Iâm not sure the organs are the same. He said something about the organs being lifted from the reface series.
In fact there are more organs, there were no transistor ones in the YC61 as far as i know. Here you have full reface yc
I would choose CK61 over YC61
Do any of those livesets come with the keyboard?
Can the CK machines be connected to the Skyscape system?
Does it has oscillator to create classic wave Synth like pulse wave etc?
Hello, great question. The synth patches in this keyboard look to be sample based and there does not appear to be a patch that specifically features pulse waves or pulse wave modulation.
Let us know if you have any other questions or need help finding a keyboard with a built in synth oscillator. Thanks!
Jason Filloramo, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1281, Jason_Filloramo@sweetwater.com
Are the piano/e.piano/clav samples in this the same as in the YC and CP? Or did they reduce the library size or sample quality?
Hi, John! Thanks for your interest. The CK pianos actually have more sounds than either the CP or YC models: 363 different voices on the CK compared to 57 on the CP and 160 on the YC. The piano sounds are inherited from the CP pianos, while the organ drawbar interface is taken from the Reface YC mini-organ. To my knowledge, thereâs no reduction in sample quality with the CK, although the keybed is a step down from the natural wood keys on the CP.
I hope this helps - feel free to contact me directly with any further questions, and thanks again!
Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
What about the CK88 action?
In stock now? Thx
quiero saber como asignar los canales midi en el software
The specs saying that 2 stereo 6Watts built in speakers. I got the CK61 played next to a P45 which has the same 6Watts speakers and they definitely donât sound nearly as good as the Yamaha P45.
Can you please reach out to Yamaha and give them that feedback. I think if the speakers are truly 6Watts stereo, this keyboard will be the best in the market at this price range
Clever keyboard for mobile, performance focused players. Also plays well with DAWs. A larger Reface with bells and whistles added.
Not sure that you couldnât do better at the price point. Not sure I would get this over a YC-88. Not sure I would get this over a FA-08, Fantom 0, or MODX. Still interesting though.
Yamaha has too much Apple IOS focussed support at the expense of everything else not IOS.
Aye Jacob Where did you get that shirt from???
what size for the keys of the 61 ?
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Speakers, I/O's that are actually usable, built in Audio Interface, plus other stuff...this should have been made 5 years ago.
Better late than never Yamaha.
Yamaha is the best...
Where is the montage replacement ?
hello Sweetwater, recently I bought the CK 61 i love the mobility and sounds of it. I am having a hard time with the U1 sample. it feels like there is not enough polyphony to have the sound carrie through. when i blend 2 pianos the U1 starts cutting out abruptly. i have no effects apply at all and it does it. i though it could be a cutoff or other effects applied on the U1. but there is non i tried to trouble shoot and read the manual. i dont have a clear reasoning why it is happening. its A+ . I WISH it had seamless transition and the piano samples would not cut out when using more than one piano sound. is there a firmware update i need to upload into my board ?
Hi, thanks for your interest and Iâm sorry for the trouble! Keep in mind that the maximum polyphony for the CK instruments is 128 voices - so if youâre using two layered sounds, that means 64 notes would be the maximum, and so on. Playing complex passages with the sustain pedal can easily lead to notes adding up to more than 64 - but if youâre not getting close to that, itâs hard to say what might be causing the issue. I didnât see a recent firmware update on Yamahaâs site, but one thing you might try would be a factory reset (make sure you back up any of your custom presets or settings on a USB drive first).
Did you purchase your CK61 from Sweetwater? If so, Iâd suggest giving our support team a call - otherwise, if you got it elsewhere, you might want to reach out to Yamaha.
Feel free to contact me directly if I can do anything to assist further, and thanks again!
Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
TO SWEETWATER: What keyboard amplification was used in this video?
Can I pan the output of the organ separately from the piano so I can use a Leslie without sending piano to the LeslieâŠor is an A-B foot switch what Iâll need ?
Hi Chip, great question! You can indeed adjust the panning of different zones on a multi such that they use separate outputs.
Let us know if you have any other questions. Thanks!
Jason Filloramo, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1281, Jason_Filloramo@sweetwater.com
16:45 Prélude Opus 28 No. 20 ;)
That piano sounded better than the CFX in the P515.
but not the cp4
The only thing it lacks is "Stage Presence", its so dull looking it makes the Reface series looks fun. Just get the Blue color of Yamaha R1 motorcycle and paint it on your keyboards.
What is the best external speaker for Yamaha CK88 for Small gathering stage.
Hello, great question! There are a lot of good options here and whatâs best will be subjective, but I would recommend a column array type system like the Electro Voice Evolve 30M for the best horizontal coverage. Regular powered speakers such as a QSC K12 or keyboard amps like a Roland KC400 would also work well.
Thanks!
Jason Filloramo, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1281, Jason_Filloramo@sweetwater.com
P.S. Is there a speaker cutoff switch?
Hi, thanks for your interest! Yes, on the CK pianos, there is a physical switch on the back of the instrument that will allow you to toggle the built-in speakers. You can also change the settings for the switch from the System menu - for example, you could set it to only mute the speakers if headphones are connected.
I hope this helps, and feel free to contact me directly with any further questions!
Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
Both the sounds and the amazing playing reminds a lot of Chick Corea...
Can you change the rotary speed with a pedal?
Hi, thanks for your interest! Yes, you can assign a connected foot pedal to toggle the speed of the rotary effect between slow and fast. You would have to go into the foot pedal settings and change the default assignment to do this. For more details, check out Yamahaâs user manual at the following link:
usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/2/1547682/ck88_en_om_b0.pdf
I hope this helps a bit - feel free to contact me directly with any further questions, and thanks again!
Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
Do these things have after-touch and what is the polyphony?
Hello, great question! These do not have aftertouch, and the polyphony is 128 notes on both keyboards.
Thanks!
Jason Filloramo, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1281, Jason_Filloramo@sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater That's sad. I think in this day and age every pro keyboard should have aftertouch as standard and the polyphony should be 256!
I also wish they would bring back polyphonic aftertouch as in the old KX88!
However, it's a decent board for gigs and practice.
What are the differences between YC,CK series and MODX,MONTAGE? Iâm new for synthesizers.
well I have the modx and I can say that the yc and this ck series are both meant to have controllers on the board and instant access. The modx is definitely one for menu diving so with the modx probably more preparation is needed.. The modx on the plus side can have more layers and all of them more customizable, the yc and ck are more like each other than they are the modx/montage.. This CK series seems to be more of a swiss army knife of sounds for live play, a lighter keyboard, and less expensive than the yc.. I note the 61 key here even though it also has internal speakers, unlike the yc or modx, is only 12.3 pounds, makes it lighter than the modx61 at 14 pounds and the yc at 15.6.. Theres a lot of other features, just depends on what purpose you are looking to use it for.
CK: lightweight gig machine
YC: organ/synth centric professional stage piano
CP: (e)piano centric professional stage piano
MODX: workstation/synthesizer
MONTAGE: beast mode MODX
MODX+: no one knows, somewhere between Montage and Modx.
CK only uses samples, while the others use both samples and fm, to create the sounds. There are many differences among those, including which type of keys, fx, build quality, interface, but that's the basic difference for the synth stuff. The Montage/MODX can import your own samples using separate software, but the others can't.
Thanks for all explanations, more understanding now.
@@akira8522 question is: what are you looking for? What would you want to use it for, whatâs your budget, what do you find important in an instrument? Does it have to be Yamaha? Etc.
Needs to plugs in with 4 by 4 speaker 's ,2 by 2 ....
the keyboard looks like the Nord Stage 3
I play on small medium and large stages but it's about my playing pleasure I like a light weight and bigger keyboard 88 keys is good but if it is not light to play the mood passes, then I switch to another brand . Why don't you make an 88 key with a light touch?
8:52
Got String Resonance? (Piano Engine)??
I guess no just like As the modx yc88 cp88 and the montage no piano engine no string resonance.
It does have string resonance! It is the default Effect 1 for the main CFX Grand Piano setting. The amount and depth can be tweaked đ
any drum pattern or accompaniment?
Hi, thanks for your interest! To my knowledge, thereâs no automatic accompaniment or rhythm styles built into the CK series. They are intended for use as stage pianos, similar to the CP series. If you are looking for something with drums and styles, the DGX-670 might be worth a look instead:
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DGX670BK--yamaha-dgx670b-88-key-black-portable-grand-includes-pa150-power-adapter-and-sustain-pedal-black
I hope this helps - feel free to contact me directly with any further questions, and thanks again!
Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
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