“More people have been to Berlin than you have.” Help I can feel my brain disintegrating desperately trying to understand this despite knowing it makes no sense.
Maybe it's because English isn't my first language but the phrase just works in my head. Too many people "have been" to Berlin while you are just one person. Even if you go to Berlin right now, more people "have been" to Berlin than you have because you can never be more than the full group of people that ever "have been" to Berlin among all human history (or at least Berlin history tbf). The second example feels more illogical but also make sense in my head, since colorless and green are mutually exclusive only if you think in colors, not concepts. You can interpret green as environmentalist idea and colorless like something that don't relate to colors (in a race discussion kinda way). Then a idea can be colorless (doesn't have nothing to do with color, race, etc) and also green (Environmentalist). Furiously can also be figurative to intensity level, and someone can also sleep intensively. Sleep can also be figurative, as an idea that nobody thinks about it. Yeah, i guess both of us are intrigued but for completely different reasons.
@@JaceGameplayI agree. In my head thr first sentence makes sense, as there's an implication that the comparison is "how many times has someone been to Berlin". It is a truth-ism, that no matter how many times you've been to Berlin, the number of other people across all of history who have been there is indeed higher than the amount of times you have, so it's definitely a flawed statement, but I read it and it makes perfect sense to me.
This makes sense! I do not possess or 'have' any people. More than one person has been to Berlin. Therefore, more people have been to Berlin than I have.
@Cacpis ok so you're saying that more people have been to Berlin that the amount of people you currently own. That seems to make sense to me! But maybe I'm being tricked again 😅
Nah cause I fuck with "colorless green ideas sleep furiously." Like ong. In fact, it's not even wrong if you find a manner in which green ideas can become colorless, and personify the ideas so that they can perform sleeping under a certain emotion. Kinda like a metaphor. But "more people have been to Berlin than you have" is just so fucked. It sounds so natural but is inherently and un-fixably flawed and I love it.
Celina Spooky Boo's sleepwalking videos are exactly the idea of colorless green ideas sleeping furiously. They're in greyscale even though night vision is usually tinted green, and she absolutely sleeps furiously.
Just to be pedantic 😅 it wouldn't be a _metaphor_ but, as you were close to mentioning, it would be _personification._ It would be a metaphor, though, if you were describing something else as "colorless green ideas", for example: "The vexed boys were colorless green ideas that slept furiously." (It doesn't necessarily have to be all one sentence like this)
My mom had two she used my whole childhood to mean "that doesn't make any sense." "Do you walk to work or carry your lunch?" As if those things are somehow mutually exclusive. And "is it farther to Chicago than by bus?"
They both work if the context applies. Saying I’m selling a rolling lunch box. Do you walk to work or carry your lunch? Works because either or I have a product that might help. You can say both, one or the other or neither. They don’t cancel each other out. If I was selling plane tickets and someone asked “is it further to Chicago than by bus?” There sentence is complete and with context makes sense.
for some reason the first sentence "more people have been to berlin than you have" just makes sense to me, there are more people that have been to berlin than I have ever went (i have never went, maybe that's why)
It makes no sense because you are comparing two different things. "More people" tries to compare the amount of people to the times you have been to Berlin. There is a way to make the sentence correct, and it is for you to own people. Then you are comparing the amount of people that have been to Berlin to the amount of people you own. People to people comparison, and thus the sentence makes sense. It would be like saying that the eifel tower is longer than my car weighs. That would be comparing length to mass.
@@MK-13337not quite. The sentence is comparing the number of people that have visited Berlin, to the fact that you have (or have not) been to Berlin. Using programming terms is a good way to show this. Assuming that only 10 people have ever been to Berlin, and you are not one of those people, this sentence is trying to say that 10 > True
@@sirdurtle9519 I don't think so. If the sentence was "I have been to Berlin more than you" then the comparison is between the amount we have been to Berlin. Thus the "more" being linked to "have been in Berlin" means we are looking at how many times you have been to Berlin. It could be interpreted multiple ways to be sure.
I love the first illusion cus it sounds like a combination of similar comparisons! More people have been to Berlin than (another place), and (another person) has been to Berlin more than you have! The middle part is nearly the same so the switch can be made seamlessly. I wonder if you can make similar illusions with other comparisons if they have the same middle.
Reminds me of the Jerry Springer episode where the audience was roasting a sibling couple and making "in the family" jokes, then the guy from the couple said to an audience member "you look like your parents slept together too." And the whole crowd (and most of the comments section on YT) perceived it as an incest joke, then Jerry said "well everyone's parents slept together"
Ooooooh thats neat! A new fact has been added into my inner encyclopedia that holds random facts that i reandomly learn like this one. You my good sir have given me a fact i will NEVER forget!
Kinda may have started Beef with someone with your ranking rare punctuations video and used the term imgrammatical (since corrected to ingrammatical). And they found evidence that both are considered correct. So now im curious. And also it's REALLY FUNNY that not even an hour after my debate, this video popped up with you using it. Anyway Love your stuff. Fantastic job. Keep being awesome 🧡🧡🧡
@zetjet9901 if you read it properly you'll eventually come to realize that this effectively means "All head injuries should be ignored, no matter how trivial"
Structurally, I think what our mind tries to compare is how often other people visit Berlin, versus how often you do. So we take it as "Many people visit Berlin more often than I do," which is a transformation we would often do mentally, but grammatically we have a complete incongruency between a count of individuals engaging in the act, and a single individual with only 2 possible states.
You just need to change the inflection on the last word. Then the meaning of "more people have gone to Berlin than you have" becomes "you possess fewer people than have gone to Berlin," making the statement both grammatically correct and true
Not true though. You haven't specified personal possession. It's not "More people have been to Berlin than the people you have/own" which would be a weird sentence, but technically grammatically correct. It's "More people have been to Berlin than you have" which makes no sense because it's compared the number of people that have gone to Berlin to the amount of times you have gone to Berlin which is not a logical comparison.
Well, brillig is the time when you start boiling things for supper, around 4pm. Slithy is a portmanteau of slimy and lithe, and a tove is of course a type of badger/lizard/corkscrew. Makes perfect sense if you simply know what the words mean.
Colorless green ideas sleep furiously. This could be interpreted as a good idea (green idea) being passed off and never used (colorless) and that idea bugs you at night because it cannot be implemented. Thus, there is still meaning that can be extracted from that phrase.
And just like that you've demonstrated that if some nonsense sounds correct, people will still find a way to trick themselves into making sense out of it. Even if the whole point of the original phrase is that it doesn't make sense by construction.
Crazy. My mom was an English teacher for a while, and without even being fooled by it, I started subconsciously thinking of ways for the sentence to be fixed.
I think that sentence is grammatical, in the sense that it does not violate syntactical rules. It’s just incoherent; it doesn’t make sense in our reality.
Does it though? "More people do this than I do" 👀 A grammatical comparison would be "more people do this than do that" the comparison is based on the actions and not on nothing? Because that's what the first sentence sounds like, like the actual comparison got lost
@@veggiet2009the issue lies in the use of "have". Here it's being used to denote actual possession but we have failed to actually establish an object of ownership, which is revealed if you reword the sentence as "more people than you have have gone to berline" or similar. If we were to reword it to "people have gone to Berlin more times than you have" then we have added a possessive object of "time" which is used here to refer to the number of instances of one visiting Berlin that a person owns (as english allows people to experiences in certain grammar structures), but since the sentence is worded like the "have" would somehow be referring to the Berlin visitors the comparison loses all semantic meaning by the end unless we're given an object to own implicitly or otherwise. Additionally, if you don't want times you went to Berlin being owned you can just slap nouns right after have, "more people have been to Berlin than you have dollars to your name"
Since I have no slaves I agree with the statement. More people have been to Berlin than the amount of people I have. He didn’t consider insidious contexts in which his comparison does in fact make sense. He is so biased that he didn’t think about which contexts one person “having” people would make sense and just assumed it would be no context.
It’s quite simple. I have no people who have been to Berlin. Therefore, more people have been to Berlin than I have. I can rephrase it as “More people have been to Berlin than you’ve got.” Which is true because I do not have people.
I interpreted it as have been as in more people have been to Berlin than you have (been to Berlin( do if more than 1 person was ever in Berlin the statement is true
I remember I wanted to make a potential book cover design of the Jabberwocky for a university project and surprisingly each made up word has meaning. One of them even became a word we actually use, that being “chortle” which was a combination of “snort” and “chuckle”
I understand this initially as “more people have traveled to Berlin than you have traveled to Berlin yourself” and I have trouble interpreting it other ways. It seems like linguistic shorthand to me.
When someone says “more people have done X than you have” I interpret than to mean “more people have done X than you have done yourself” I don’t understand the confusion.
My brain fills “more people have been to Berlin than you have” with “…been to berlin” as in number of times I’ve been to Berlin (0) but wow it cost me mental gymnastics to get there
Sentence 1 seems like it would make sense if you emphasise the 'have' to imply its alternate meaning; 'to own'. I would argue that I own myself, and no other people. Therefore, the 'people I have' is 'one person'. Thus it is true that more people have entered Berlin than the people I have.
True, you could also potentially make sense of it by comparing the amount of people (who have been to Berlin) with the event (times I have been to Berlin) it is a bit stranger, but seems to come closer to how people initially interpret the sentence (and yes, I have an idea how people interpret the sentence, because I did an experiment on it for my MA in psycholinguistics.)
"More people have been to Berlin than you have" implies that you have less people than there are people that have been to Berlin. This is a gramatically correct sentence
@@Schattenhall if you mean to have sex with someone, it would be “have had.” Have would make sense if you had people locked up in your basement I guess.
I made the mistake of still trying to decipher "More people have been to Berlin than you have" and actually started to become disoriented and achy. Thanks I hate it, but also how dare you I love it
"More people have been to Berlin than you have." aka the number of people that have been to Berlin is greater than the number of times I've been. This sounds like saying you can't compare how many oranges you have to how many apples you have because oranges and apples aren't the same fruit. The sentence sounds correct because it is interpreted correctly. I'm pretty confident that languages work on the basis that a thought spoken aloud is understood properly by the person being spoken to. Just because the words aren't in the right order doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. Another example is when "whom" and "who" are mixed up. You still understand the intention, therefore there's not really a problem.
As I understand it, the sentence just compares persons with persons. [More people] [have been in Berlin] [than you] [have (been in Berlin)]. The only thing that seems me weird here is the last “have”, since I'd find it beter either omitted ot followed by another “been in Berlin”.
no that just kind of makes sense to me, more people have in fact been to berlin to me, because i've never been, statistically more people have visited berlin in their lifetime than me
i like: "The mountains are steeper on foot than downhill" "What is the difference between a crow? both legs are the same length, especially the left one"
If I was an English teacher, I'd make my students try to interpret Jabberwocky as an April Fools day prank
Do this every year. Find the linguists who overthink the hell out of the assignment. Get them into linguistics.
I had to do that for a drama class in 7th grade- not for April Fool's-
The Jabberwocky does have a structure and flow to it though so you can actually analyze it (I'm an English major and this is one of my favorite poems)
@@Si1vercherry this brought back a completely forgotten memory, pretty sure we had to do this too.
I'm french. Our English teacher gave us the poem to study. Not as a joke.
Most of us were utterly lost.
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Broski, that Tiamat profile pic is epic.
“More people have been to Berlin than you have.”
Help I can feel my brain disintegrating desperately trying to understand this despite knowing it makes no sense.
Maybe it's because English isn't my first language but the phrase just works in my head.
Too many people "have been" to Berlin while you are just one person. Even if you go to Berlin right now, more people "have been" to Berlin than you have because you can never be more than the full group of people that ever "have been" to Berlin among all human history (or at least Berlin history tbf).
The second example feels more illogical but also make sense in my head, since colorless and green are mutually exclusive only if you think in colors, not concepts. You can interpret green as environmentalist idea and colorless like something that don't relate to colors (in a race discussion kinda way). Then a idea can be colorless (doesn't have nothing to do with color, race, etc) and also green (Environmentalist). Furiously can also be figurative to intensity level, and someone can also sleep intensively. Sleep can also be figurative, as an idea that nobody thinks about it.
Yeah, i guess both of us are intrigued but for completely different reasons.
@@JaceGameplayI agree. In my head thr first sentence makes sense, as there's an implication that the comparison is "how many times has someone been to Berlin". It is a truth-ism, that no matter how many times you've been to Berlin, the number of other people across all of history who have been there is indeed higher than the amount of times you have, so it's definitely a flawed statement, but I read it and it makes perfect sense to me.
I mean, I've never been to Berlin so more people HAVE been to Berlin than I have.
This makes sense!
I do not possess or 'have' any people.
More than one person has been to Berlin.
Therefore, more people have been to Berlin than I have.
@Cacpis ok so you're saying that more people have been to Berlin that the amount of people you currently own.
That seems to make sense to me! But maybe I'm being tricked again 😅
Nah cause I fuck with "colorless green ideas sleep furiously." Like ong. In fact, it's not even wrong if you find a manner in which green ideas can become colorless, and personify the ideas so that they can perform sleeping under a certain emotion. Kinda like a metaphor.
But "more people have been to Berlin than you have" is just so fucked. It sounds so natural but is inherently and un-fixably flawed and I love it.
Celina Spooky Boo's sleepwalking videos are exactly the idea of colorless green ideas sleeping furiously.
They're in greyscale even though night vision is usually tinted green, and she absolutely sleeps furiously.
@@DembaiVT🤯
Context, you are a commander. Contextual existence rectified the broken mess.
Objectively fuckin wrong.
Just to be pedantic 😅 it wouldn't be a _metaphor_ but, as you were close to mentioning, it would be _personification._
It would be a metaphor, though, if you were describing something else as "colorless green ideas", for example:
"The vexed boys were colorless green ideas that slept furiously."
(It doesn't necessarily have to be all one sentence like this)
me and the squad, gyring and gimbling in the wabe
Yeasssss, as y'all should.
Were y'all's borogoves all mimsy tho
we making it outta the wabe with this one
wyd when my gang gimble up
I love that you referred to my absolute favourite poem. Jabberwocky is great.
My mom had two she used my whole childhood to mean "that doesn't make any sense."
"Do you walk to work or carry your lunch?" As if those things are somehow mutually exclusive.
And "is it farther to Chicago than by bus?"
That last one broke me
that last last one is subtle I love it lol
the first one is also so goofy it's perfect
Last one is giving “jow many liberals does it take to change a log by bolb”
In germany there is a well known version of this.
It translates to:
At night it's colder than outside.
They both work if the context applies. Saying I’m selling a rolling lunch box. Do you walk to work or carry your lunch? Works because either or I have a product that might help. You can say both, one or the other or neither. They don’t cancel each other out.
If I was selling plane tickets and someone asked “is it further to Chicago than by bus?” There sentence is complete and with context makes sense.
excuse me I've been to Berlin before so more people definitely couldn't have than I have
So are you saying you are a bigger amount than all the people who have been to Berlin?
It took me a second to understand what he said.
Then I read this and understand what people mean when they say "I had a stroke reading that".
Hey, as long as they have been in you, we’re fine with it.
no, because fewer people have been to Berlin than they have @@Lrozzie
I disagree... You are one, more are many 😅
for some reason the first sentence "more people have been to berlin than you have" just makes sense to me, there are more people that have been to berlin than I have ever went (i have never went, maybe that's why)
Same here
It makes no sense because you are comparing two different things. "More people" tries to compare the amount of people to the times you have been to Berlin.
There is a way to make the sentence correct, and it is for you to own people. Then you are comparing the amount of people that have been to Berlin to the amount of people you own. People to people comparison, and thus the sentence makes sense.
It would be like saying that the eifel tower is longer than my car weighs. That would be comparing length to mass.
it might be more obvious if you rewrite the sentence to say "More people than you have, have been to berlin"
@@MK-13337not quite. The sentence is comparing the number of people that have visited Berlin, to the fact that you have (or have not) been to Berlin.
Using programming terms is a good way to show this. Assuming that only 10 people have ever been to Berlin, and you are not one of those people, this sentence is trying to say that 10 > True
@@sirdurtle9519 I don't think so. If the sentence was "I have been to Berlin more than you" then the comparison is between the amount we have been to Berlin. Thus the "more" being linked to "have been in Berlin" means we are looking at how many times you have been to Berlin. It could be interpreted multiple ways to be sure.
More people have been to berlin than you have.
That's correct! I do not have that many people.
I love the first illusion cus it sounds like a combination of similar comparisons! More people have been to Berlin than (another place), and (another person) has been to Berlin more than you have! The middle part is nearly the same so the switch can be made seamlessly. I wonder if you can make similar illusions with other comparisons if they have the same middle.
Reminds me of the Jerry Springer episode where the audience was roasting a sibling couple and making "in the family" jokes, then the guy from the couple said to an audience member "you look like your parents slept together too." And the whole crowd (and most of the comments section on YT) perceived it as an incest joke, then Jerry said "well everyone's parents slept together"
Ooooooh thats neat! A new fact has been added into my inner encyclopedia that holds random facts that i reandomly learn like this one. You my good sir have given me a fact i will NEVER forget!
Reddit ah comment 💀
That reminds me of my grandpa who'd say stuff like: "At night it's colder than outside" or "By foot it's shorter than through the woods"
It's only as far as you don't go.
the amount if people that have been to Berlin is higher than the amount of people I have been to Berlin
Long shot but can you do a video explaining the differences and uses of "ungrammatical" versus "grammatically incorrect"?
Kinda may have started Beef with someone with your ranking rare punctuations video and used the term imgrammatical (since corrected to ingrammatical). And they found evidence that both are considered correct. So now im curious. And also it's REALLY FUNNY that not even an hour after my debate, this video popped up with you using it.
Anyway
Love your stuff. Fantastic job. Keep being awesome 🧡🧡🧡
I am only 1 person, i have never been to Berlin, i hear there have been at least 12 people in Berlin, ergo it's true 😂
bro said ergo 💀💀
@@e7193bro said skull emoji skull emoji
@@e7193complaining about words in a linguistic short content channel is like complaining about drugs to your drug dealer.
@@e7193 what are you 12? Go eat Dinosaur nuggets and do your math homework or something. Maybe clean your room as well.
@@JaceGameplayjacist
and no head injury is too trivial to be ignored
huh wait can you explain this one
@zetjet9901 if you read it properly you'll eventually come to realize that this effectively means "All head injuries should be ignored, no matter how trivial"
@@Deedoo_r ohh thank you
Well this one is different as it makes grammatical sense just not literal sense
@@Gavin_M.unless you interpret the Berlin one as you owning people lol
"more people have been to Berlin than you own"
Structurally, I think what our mind tries to compare is how often other people visit Berlin, versus how often you do. So we take it as "Many people visit Berlin more often than I do," which is a transformation we would often do mentally, but grammatically we have a complete incongruency between a count of individuals engaging in the act, and a single individual with only 2 possible states.
You just need to change the inflection on the last word. Then the meaning of "more people have gone to Berlin than you have" becomes "you possess fewer people than have gone to Berlin," making the statement both grammatically correct and true
not true im my case.
dont look in the basement.
Not true though. You haven't specified personal possession.
It's not "More people have been to Berlin than the people you have/own" which would be a weird sentence, but technically grammatically correct.
It's "More people have been to Berlin than you have" which makes no sense because it's compared the number of people that have gone to Berlin to the amount of times you have gone to Berlin which is not a logical comparison.
so it’s kinda like chatgpt
Well, brillig is the time when you start boiling things for supper, around 4pm. Slithy is a portmanteau of slimy and lithe, and a tove is of course a type of badger/lizard/corkscrew. Makes perfect sense if you simply know what the words mean.
and if you make up meanings for those words, now you know what they mean
It does make sense!!! It means more individuals have been there than times you’ve been there…
Even after thinking, I needed you to explain it for me to understand why it was incorrect.
Colorless green ideas sleep furiously. This could be interpreted as a good idea (green idea) being passed off and never used (colorless) and that idea bugs you at night because it cannot be implemented. Thus, there is still meaning that can be extracted from that phrase.
And just like that you've demonstrated that if some nonsense sounds correct, people will still find a way to trick themselves into making sense out of it. Even if the whole point of the original phrase is that it doesn't make sense by construction.
The jabberwocky is a beautiful exploration of how we interpret sound as meaning beyond pre-established words
Crazy. My mom was an English teacher for a while, and without even being fooled by it, I started subconsciously thinking of ways for the sentence to be fixed.
Jabberwocky was in the first linguistics lecture i ever listened to lmao
I think that sentence is grammatical, in the sense that it does not violate syntactical rules. It’s just incoherent; it doesn’t make sense in our reality.
Does it though? "More people do this than I do" 👀
A grammatical comparison would be "more people do this than do that" the comparison is based on the actions and not on nothing? Because that's what the first sentence sounds like, like the actual comparison got lost
@@veggiet2009it's syntactically obedient, yes. it's just semantically meaninglesz
@@veggiet2009the issue lies in the use of "have". Here it's being used to denote actual possession but we have failed to actually establish an object of ownership, which is revealed if you reword the sentence as "more people than you have have gone to berline" or similar.
If we were to reword it to "people have gone to Berlin more times than you have" then we have added a possessive object of "time" which is used here to refer to the number of instances of one visiting Berlin that a person owns (as english allows people to experiences in certain grammar structures), but since the sentence is worded like the "have" would somehow be referring to the Berlin visitors the comparison loses all semantic meaning by the end unless we're given an object to own implicitly or otherwise.
Additionally, if you don't want times you went to Berlin being owned you can just slap nouns right after have, "more people have been to Berlin than you have dollars to your name"
Since I have no slaves I agree with the statement. More people have been to Berlin than the amount of people I have. He didn’t consider insidious contexts in which his comparison does in fact make sense. He is so biased that he didn’t think about which contexts one person “having” people would make sense and just assumed it would be no context.
“More people have been to Berlin than just you” is a pretty similar sentence that is grammatical
It’s quite simple. I have no people who have been to Berlin. Therefore, more people have been to Berlin than I have.
I can rephrase it as “More people have been to Berlin than you’ve got.” Which is true because I do not have people.
@@roachybill if you aren’t here to engage in sillyism, I cannot communicate with you.
(Court ordered)
Huh, I think he deleted the comment
I interpreted it as have been as in more people have been to Berlin than you have (been to Berlin( do if more than 1 person was ever in Berlin the statement is true
the way it took me, a history major, at least a whole minute to figure out what was wrong with the statement
I remember I wanted to make a potential book cover design of the Jabberwocky for a university project and surprisingly each made up word has meaning. One of them even became a word we actually use, that being “chortle” which was a combination of “snort” and “chuckle”
I'm literally performing The Jabberwocky for my literature class this week, I have it memorized and everything
I interpreted that sentence as “More people have been to Berlin [more times] than you have”
this sounds like something my brain would come up with during a dream
bro loves that poem lol
Naw. As SOON as I heard him say it this first time, I went “What does that even mean?”
It makes perfect sense! I have no people, and at least one person has been to Berlin you just gotta fix the stress
As a number of people, I have been to Berlin 0 people.
Say anything with enough confidence and people will not question it 💀
I was immediately confused by that sentence, then he explained it and I knew why I was confused
I understand this initially as “more people have traveled to Berlin than you have traveled to Berlin yourself” and I have trouble interpreting it other ways. It seems like linguistic shorthand to me.
When someone says “more people have done X than you have” I interpret than to mean “more people have done X than you have done yourself” I don’t understand the confusion.
The rabbit hops under the smelling road fluently.
My brain fills “more people have been to Berlin than you have” with “…been to berlin” as in number of times I’ve been to Berlin (0) but wow it cost me mental gymnastics to get there
That's the way my brain automatically fills it, finding it very difficult to see what the nonsense of the sentence could be
Sentence 1 seems like it would make sense if you emphasise the 'have' to imply its alternate meaning; 'to own'.
I would argue that I own myself, and no other people. Therefore, the 'people I have' is 'one person'. Thus it is true that more people have entered Berlin than the people I have.
Ooh, clever!
Oh, interesting! I interpreted it as a weird way of saying "most of the human experiences of going to Berlin were not by you."
I was thinking this too! Since I obviously don’t have any people, and surely at least one person has been to Berlin.
True, you could also potentially make sense of it by comparing the amount of people (who have been to Berlin) with the event (times I have been to Berlin) it is a bit stranger, but seems to come closer to how people initially interpret the sentence (and yes, I have an idea how people interpret the sentence, because I did an experiment on it for my MA in psycholinguistics.)
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"More people have been to Berlin than you have" implies that you have less people than there are people that have been to Berlin. This is a gramatically correct sentence
what do you mean by "have less people"?
What's the "have" supposed to mean
@@Johndoe-mv5iiYou know what it means to "have" a break? Same concept but with people
@@Schattenhall if you mean to have sex with someone, it would be “have had.” Have would make sense if you had people locked up in your basement I guess.
No the sentence just MAKES SENSE
It’s so refreshing to see how excited you get
You reading the first lines of Jabberwocky made me relive my phonetics classes in uni
I always imagined the I in slithy to be
/aɪ/, reminiscent of slimy.
It is
It probably is, but learning ipa disconnects your brain from a lot of learned english ortho rules
I feel dumb. My brains interpreting it as “ other people have been to Berlin more times than you have” I feel broken
i feel like this could this be interpreted as:
“the amount of people who have been to berlin exceeds the amount of times you have been to berlin”
I made the mistake of still trying to decipher "More people have been to Berlin than you have" and actually started to become disoriented and achy. Thanks I hate it, but also how dare you I love it
My first thought was, "I've never been to Berlin"
But my brain understands it. Take it literally. I have never been to Berlin. So more people have. Been to belin than me
Going feral rn language is so cool
The Berlin sentence makes complete sense if have is simply referring to possession ‘you have two people’ it works right
I read it like; “more people have collectively visited berlin than i have personally”
Still doesn’t make sense tho
it makes sense in my head, it means something like: more different people have visited berlin at least once than i have visited berlin myself in total
Jabberwocky is probably my favourite piece of litterature.
My dad used to read the jabberwocky poem to me when I was younger and I thought it was real words from dnd until I was like 8 💀
Me, brain on autocorrectpilot or stroking out at 5 AM: "I mean, yeah, none me has ever been to Berlin any, so _all_ more people have."
this reminds me of how speech makes no sense to a person that's just woken up😂
It really took me a minute to figure out why "More people have been to Berlin than you have" doesn't make sense.
I have zero people. The number of people who have been to Berlin is greater than zero
Or in the immortal words of Count Arthur Strong "Pleased to meet you, I really do"
Green is my favorite number in the alphabet.
Maybe I am just to used to interpreting grammatically incorrect comments online, but the first sentence made perfect sense to me 😅
In the night it's colder than outside
Durch den Wald ist kürzer als zu Fuß. A Classic.
You are my favorite CZcamsr.
Less people have been in jail than me.
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It makes sense because it just feels like the start, it's an incomplete sentence.
I heard the first sentence, thought "yeah whatever", kept scrolling, registered what he actually said, and scrolled back.
Been to Berlin multiple times. Not worth it. Eurgh.
I was quite annoyed when you told me that more people have been to Berlin than I have and was about to pick a fight
Can confirm, more people have been to Berlin than I have trapped inside my basement
you just made the comparison, so it exists.
'More people have been to Berlin than you have' is just how they speak in essex lol
Gods I love this channel
"More people have been to Berlin than you have."
aka the number of people that have been to Berlin is greater than the number of times I've been.
This sounds like saying you can't compare how many oranges you have to how many apples you have because oranges and apples aren't the same fruit. The sentence sounds correct because it is interpreted correctly. I'm pretty confident that languages work on the basis that a thought spoken aloud is understood properly by the person being spoken to.
Just because the words aren't in the right order doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. Another example is when "whom" and "who" are mixed up. You still understand the intention, therefore there's not really a problem.
As I understand it, the sentence just compares persons with persons. [More people] [have been in Berlin] [than you] [have (been in Berlin)]. The only thing that seems me weird here is the last “have”, since I'd find it beter either omitted ot followed by another “been in Berlin”.
English is my first language and it took me like 5 minutes to figure out why this isn’t supposed to make sense lol
I sure hope more people have been to berlin than i have, i dont have very many people
I love that you did that in the caption too
- I thought your yacht was larger than it is
- No, my yacht is not larger than it is
That makes grammatical sense though. It compares the past imaginary visual of the yacht to the present real yacht.
no that just kind of makes sense to me, more people have in fact been to berlin to me, because i've never been, statistically more people have visited berlin in their lifetime than me
So the opposite of garden path sentences. Neat.
2 words.
OWL CITY.
that dude evokes imagery with words that dont even make sense but man! his music is awesome.
This is like the opposite of garden path sentences
Lewis Carroll actually made definitions for the jabberwocky
This implies that I own people. And that Berlin has been visited by a greater number of people than that which I own. 💀
i like:
"The mountains are steeper on foot than downhill"
"What is the difference between a crow? both legs are the same length, especially the left one"
What if I do have people, and that number of people is less than the number of people who have been to berlin?
NO WAY
Our teacher actually made us analyze the jabberwocky for Lit AND SHE WAS 100% SERIOUS ABOUT IT
This is like Phil in that one episode of Modern Family where he gives out his advice
It's colder in the night then outside
The sentence makes sense. I own less people than the amount of people that have been to berlin.
In German we have a nonsense joke sentence which works like this and goes like "at night it's colder than outside" "nachts ist es kälter als draußen"