1956 Packard Bell Black and White Console Television Analysis For Repair
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- čas přidán 12. 08. 2022
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$199.95 at Bullocks in Downtown LA, October of 1955. "Packard--Bell Designed and Built in the West for Western Reception". Really pretty good quality sets. I had a 1958ish slim cabinet deLuxe 21". Wish I still did. Worked great!
Thats $2.2K in todays money.
When I was a kid, I’d strip an abandoned TV of its tubes. Had no idea how they worked etc, I just thought they were cool. I still think they’re 😎
That is because you're correct,, they are cool. Even if you have no interest or idea how they work they are just magical, and then if you gain even a small amount of theory on how they work the magic only grows. Cant say that much about a transistor... Actually no solid state is pretty magical too in it's own way, just not "electrons flying through high vacuum because one plate is more attractive than the other but only when it gets hot enough" magical
@@danmackintosh6325 I’m pretty sure I don’t have nearly as many tubes as Shango but being into guitar amps, old aa5 radios and ham gear, I’ve still got a few. And they are magical, especially in a dark room on a cold winter night, talking to someone on another continent. No wires, no www, servers, nothing but air.
I remember in the early to mid 80's dozens and dozens of old working portable black and white tube TV's being junked because folks just upgraded to new color TV's. My friends and I used to crack them TV's open and take out all the vacuum tubes to throw them at each other (yeah, dumb schitt there, but we were young kids) and smash them against the wall or out in the street. I loved the popping sound they made. I literally destroyed hundreds of them. Now I'm thinking that they just may be worth a few bucks?
As a kid it was mandatory to remove any tubes from an abandoned TV.. LOL
If I couldn't haul it away, I'd pull the tubes out 🤓✌️
@@SteverRob Yes nice to see glowing, nothing like hot dusty old valves on a chilly winters night. which tonight is.
Never seen such a well organized underside of a TV chassis. Kudos to the engineering department at Pack Bell just for that.
I'm never easily impressed by design work . Use to RCA stuff being so- so designed I guess. If you get all the tubes from
the donor chassis and a few others will need some major time testing them all. Resurrection do-able!
Just got my Saturday morning fix of TV repair videos laced with images of fiery death, thanks Shango!
Until I started watching Shango066 years ago, all I knew about Packard Bell was as a brand of cheap PCs. We didn't get Pack Bell TVs or radios on the east coast at all except for people moving from out west to the east and bringing them along in the move. I can imagine local service techs looking at them all weird and saying Pack Bell stuff didn't work east of the Rockies, but we have this nice Philco set that works around here just fine. Therefore, this set has the best chance of resurrection in LA.
The layout of the components and wiring underneath the chassis is really beautiful and elegant in its tidiness. Someone put some thought and care into the design and took pride in their work. Sadly,as Shango said this style of vintage set is very common and they usually get turned into aquariums,dog beds,liquor cabinets,etc.
it will be interesting to see part 2 of this and see what kind of picture the set will produce.
Hopefully you will be able to rehome it to someone that appreciates it as a television set and it will escape becoming a dog bed.
Looks like it came off of the assembly line yesterday.
Cute looking set. Dime a dozen they may be but sadly televisions like this simply don't exist out here in the southeast it seems.
This one I really think you should try to make it work. I think it is worth the time. Never seen one of these working. Wish I had one. I think it would be a worth while adventure and it looks to be in much better than previous restoration or resurrections. I hope you will get it working. It came from a shop which might had it working but the owner did not want to spend the extra to fix as the owner was most likely convinced to purchase a new one the shop sold back then. That happened to my parents, the labor cost was the big issue and the discount given to get a color set was the final call.
That thing is nicely built and in beautiful condition. I am looking forward to seeing it come to life.
What a great underchasis layout . Nice TV . I would love to see you work on that and bring it back to life. I know you can do it . I will be looking forward to watching . All the very best from the UK .
When I was growing up we had a 1952 TV that lasted until 1974 when finally the CRT went bad. Then we got our first color set, a Sony Trinitron KV1710. That lasted another 20 years or so.
Fantastic layout on the underside, highly impressed! 👏
In 1984, someone gave me an RCA set from the 1950's that had a nice picture on it, nice and bright. When I looked inside of it, it had a Sylvania picture tube that had a date of December 1973 stamped on it. It was most likely a low hour tube but there were other things wrong with it. The tubes on the tuner needed to be replaced and I could not afford them, being a teenager. Also, after you ran it for a couple of hours, the transformer started to hum. I got a couple of months out of it before I did away with it.
About 1969 I was in 9th grade and started fixing old B/W TVs. Rode my bike up to the drug store to test tubes. Unfortunately we shorted a few.
Loved the random bug zapper clip, this really is my favorite electronics channel on youtube
Ashame to make any TV like this one into a dog bed! I love the style on these old console TVs. Even if the CRT is dead, as long as the wood case is refinishable and all the exterior parts are present and in decent shape (like this one), its worth saving (to me) as antique furniture/conversation piece. If they all get turned into dog beds, sooner or later, complete ones won’t exist anymore.
Then you must open your wallet and outbid the hipsters and their stupid fashion sense.
@@tarstarkusz Poggers russian flag.
@@qwertykeyboard5901 Red. white and blue... Good old USA. Plus, it pisses off all the right people.
@@tarstarkusz Oh man, I love pissing liberals off.
What a balanced pattern displayed on underside. Some things just look the way they do no matter how they work. Realizing the value in what seen, gives any [good] reason to see what it can do.
On Standby: when a so called "dead Spider" is found, it's time for the Flies to Fry.
_when out of flies, i have a list._
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The flies sound like they need Pepto-bismol or maybe a dose of Ivermectin. Love how well laid out the underside of the chassis is on this, beautiful to work on & if the xfmrs are good + bulb comes back around it'd be an easy restoration candidate. Especially with the midget-pr0ne lexy segs (or glue them to a broken Crosley Cruiser and list it on ebay using the term Dansette legs and turn a fat profit)
What they need is a good dose of crape erase.
The CRT date code is the 34th week in 1957, '67, '77, etc. That was a common format for dating and its still used today.
Packard-Bell didn't make their own tubes so an original CRT isn't impossible. Most likely it's a replacement.
The legs should make this TV look nostalgic. So should the knobs. This is definitely worth a recap job. I hope 🤞 the CRT is not too high-hour. Those yokes sure deteriorate over time. It means the “tire” will be conductive. I like the circuitry. Sounds like ya have to give this all new tubes. Your friend, Jeff.
Love the segues to the bug zapper!
I really miss those ESRC $1 tubes. Had I known, I would have loaded up.
Entirely possible that the set is very early 1960s. Can't wait for the resurrection! Loved the bug zapping interludes, especially with the rock music in the background. 😁
My favourite videos of yours are the ones just like this, old 1950’s B&W resurrections. It’s sad to hear that these sets are still being trashed or repurposed. No doubt, the new technology is very impressive. I just like the old stuff.
We had that type of rug back in the 80s as a kid. Great memories of those days.
Love the bug zapper. Great zapping sounds for background noise. 😀
Did I just see one of your EOL CRT videos on an over the air antenna commercial? Radar.... something. Right in the beginning. You are HUGE!
The bug zapper cuts were appropriate because I just ordered a couple blacklight tubes for a 15 watt zapper found in attic. Mosquitos are bad around here. I read some study online that they might be more attracted to 520nm green light, so will try using an LED in that spectrum along with Co2 bait to lure them into their demise.
They have videos on CZcams that put screens on the backs of box fans and have them run all night. Then, they spray rubbing alcohol on the screen in the morning to kill any remain mosquitoes before brushing them off.
@@robertgaines-tulsa yep, saw that one too.
Pretty cool looking chassis! It looks like a piece of art from the bottom.
It is nice and clean.
this is an art piece~
Shang I can't wait to see you bring this set back. My theory on why it was taken apart and left for dead is how many color sets were out there in 1973, maybe they brought it in for some kind of trivial repair and just swapped to a color set when they got the bill.
Cool old set
I love the component layout underneath. It should work, it's still got the dead spider installed.
Looks like the fly's back is arcing.
Flyback 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Literally my first model tear apart TV found on the curb. Never got it working.
I watch these video's so much that I am understanding the parts and things now, I'm like "oh, there's the fly-back" 🙂Why do I like those fly scenes so much>>>>??? Thank you for these videos, they keep me company at my weekend job!
Looking forward to the next couple of videos of Resurrection shango I like that TV and that must be one hell of an odor with those bugs burning
I had always wondered what one of those "Narjiclay Bromulex" TV sets looked like, now I know! 😃😀😄
I think that's worth saving. It's clean, the CRT seems to have come around, I think it would work well. Yes, I do think you know your tubes real well!
There's nothin' like the aroma of fryin' bugs in the morning. The only tv I've ever acquired that had all the tubes missing was a 7" Firestone tv at a flea market. I didn't do anything with it and eventually sold it.
This is what I was thinking. Hold onto it and wait for a roached chassis to come along with the tubes still in it that can be harvested. Already had one! Should have known.
I wish I could live in an era where you could and was expected to work on your own stuff
I’ve come across these style of sets that were stripped out, and thought about putting a flat screen in it. I would put it behind the plastic and glass so it looks as much like the original set as possible.
If you don’t restore it making wall art of the electronics on the chassis bottom would be cool.
I’m wondering that if they were still using the set in the 70’s that they may of just decided to get a new set, even if it was fixable.
Top moment of the entire episode is how the fly's head burned and fell off 😁😅😅
@Eric Ruud Absolutely 🎬
Decapitated by sheer voltage ⚡️
Fried spider at end, should be the end tag for all Shango066 repair videos.
Love the bug zapper lol.
The music and "ding!" in the background made me laugh way harder at yer fly fry than I should've.
lol VH and bug zappin. Thanks shango for the laughs.
I love your videos, very relaxing to watch, and your voice is very pretty, I enjoy a lot to see those repairs, very informative and sometimes funny, keep up the good work and I hope to see more of those restorations soon, greetings from Brazil 🇧🇷
love the Rodalco moments. miss the HF bug zapping noise.
Yes. Can’t wait to see it work!
the 1949 emerson i acquired didn't have any tubes either they got pulled some years back i will finish its restoration in the next few months
Listening to you read the tubes and say what they are and what they're used for is incredible. 💪 🧠
6CZ5 is another common audio output tube, actually more similar to the 6V6 than the 6AQ5 is.
I use to have some of those tubes, I cant remember if I do anymore.
First chassis I have seen on this channel where the components aren't put together like a rat's nest
Oddly enough Shango talks about doing a resurrection... And then it goes to flies getting burnt to a crisp! Think it's too late for the bugs.
It would be cool to get one of these chassis, strip it and send it off to be chrome plated and then adorn it with brass adornments and decorations, and reassemble.
I sure do wish they were abundant on the East coast.
"I love the smell of frying bugs in the morning" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
lol
You know that the owners turned those "service" only knobs! lol
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Here in Albuquerque any 1950s vintage TVs are a raritty, and prime wurfer bait.
The flies vote for a circuit breaker.
Hope you get that going, looks like it would make a good video.
I would part the chassis out before throwing it away. Transformers could be used for a tube amp. High voltage ceramic disc caps, terminal strips, potentiometers, wire....
Great video lol I loved it thanks for the info
Cooked flies, it's so delicious!
Would like to see you get it working again.
You should hook up a mic to the bug zapper and run it through an amplifier....it sounds amazing!!!
Hearing, "Four sexy legs and one big knob" - Geez, I wondered, for a moment, what sort of channel I had tuned into?
This is kinda out there, but while watching the beautiful orange high voltage arcs jump & dance between burning pieces of bug it came to me- ⚡Bug zapper live stream ⚡ 🤣
I wish we could get a date code on those old spiders
Can the deflection yoke be replaced with used equivalent?
After a little cleanup it looks pristine, not sure why they would write it off
Lmao nothing like hearing Shango with some bug baking with Panama playing in the background. Thanks Shango made my day
whats that buzapper for? running the tv of it? could provide the HV
Definitely a resurrection candidate and up for adoption
I seem to remember a band named "The Tubes" LOL
Perhaps these are common in your area but not in the Eastern USA, at least in my area. Worth a resurrection.
I can just smell the burning bugs.....
Which type of insect lamp is that you're using, i want one too.
You said ‘one big knob’ lol
It looks like the bug light knows how to decapitate.
Why did all companies mark the chassis with the tube numbers. I got a electrohome made tv missing the back with the tube chart on and all the tubes where removed no clue what tubes went there
Can get Glyptal spray can insulation here for those loose looking coils
Uhh fancy new graphics from the transfubitubilator. Me like. And pink so fancy 😃
if you have sets where you think its not worth it , would you do maybe try rejuvenate on those in future videos ? , would be interesting to see how crts behave
clean with a modern B&K or Sencore. Come back next day & see if it stayed up. If not junk it.
LFOD !
Fly emissions were far higher than CRT emissions.
Is that maybe a model 21SC1 ?
she knows how to use them lol
Roach-Tastic Electuratory Content !
(Keep 'em coming Shango !)
Cue the burning bugs with Van Halen
idk that tire on the flyback looks pretty spent
Toasting Flies to Van Halen, love it! I want one of those now
Was Packard Bell, in the era of your TV, good stuff, or had PB gone to cheap junk like their PCs toward the end of their existence?
I’m just curious.
They were pretty damn good from what I can gather, if I hadn't heard it said here before then the beautiful layout and lead dress are a big hint that this ain't no Philco.. By the way, I'm watching/typing on a PB laptop that I bought new in 2010 for just under £300. It's led a rough life, it's on it's 3rd keyboard now, battery holds zero charge & one screen hinge is snapped off but all things considered it's not IMO cheap junk. Not that any low-budget laptop built in this century is a paragon of durable quality, but it''s survived pretty well all told.
Good. In fact, almost every 1950s era BW set was good. Intensely RCA patents. Literally the whole television manufacturing industry was respectable until the Printed Circuit Board era.
PB was good stuff even up into the Teledyne ownership era in the late 60s or so. In the west we knew PB stuff to be good performers, easily serviced and backed by a good company right in LA. Sure times changed and the later PB stuff was sliding. Name sold off and used of PCs as you mention.
As said, they were decent to good quality back in the day. I became aware of the brand when some neighbors had a 19" late 60's PB B&W set when we first met them, they would eventually replace that old B&W with a new color set the same size in the mid to late 70's.
That said, they stayed decent quality through at least the 70's. Sadly, the name eventually got sold off and became a lower end brand selling low end PC clones through the 1980's and by the mid to late 90's retreated to Europe and left the US and the same with AST computers). My Dad had bought one of the last US sold PB PC's in 1997, a Pack Mate PB SFF desktop (non tower) that had a 120MHz Pentium processor, but the motherboard went bad under warranty and he sprung the extra 50 bucks and upped it to a 200Mhz Pentium and he would pass on in 1998 and that PC became my mother's and she held onto it until 2005 when I spent all day Saturday trying to get it back in good running order (Windows 98 and old drivers, and PB no longer in the US), had me pulling my hair out and the next day, Mom and I went and replaced it with a mid level eMachines box that I still have after her death in 2012, but it's not my main computer these days.
looks like a cellar spider
Easy Saturday with shango lol
Is the crackle fly spitzen sparken hinting at possibly an arcing flyback in the next video on this TV? Crackle pony master charge!