Cerax 1010 vs Naniwa 1000
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- čas přidán 22. 10. 2021
- Two excellent 1k stones for review. The Cerax is a soaking stone, great value, fast, responsive. The Naniwa is splash and go, come with a base, and just as fast and responsive as the Cerax. Both are great bevel set stones for straight razors!
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Great review, Jeff
Thanks Jeff
Классный обзор на десятки.
Nice! I ordered the 400grit Naniwa. Same color and would that one be good for damaged blades to set the bevel quick?
Yes. 400 grit will be very aggressive. Good for heavy metal removal. You’ll set a bevel quickly with that. Just be careful not to over do it. 1000 grit will follow and refine that 400 grit stone. Good luck.
@@fishinjunky ok thanks for your input.
Hi Jeff, thanks for the good competition. Are the grit values the same for both stones? Do you feel?
They are both 1k stones. However, the Cerax feels a tad more coarse. Under a loupe, the Naniwa actually looks like it polishes better. The stria appear to be “tighter”. That may be one positive aspect that the Naniwa has over the Cerax. But it’s so minor in this stage of the honing process, I don’t see it as a huge selling point.
These are totally different stones which don't really over lap at all. The cerax is a modern well cutting stone but it's a highly friable soaker which leaves a totally different kind of finish and has totally different uses and properties vs. the extremely hard SNG chosera, the 1k chosera is quite friable for the chosera line but nowhere near the cerax. The finish they leave on steel is nothing alike. For most uses and most users the chosera is clearly and obviously the better stone, but if you are doing something like traditional Japanese wide bevel knives stones like the cerax are good.. all that mud and well cutting with light pressure. The cerax is a modern stone though so it cuts well, stainless steels too. The entire cerax line is sharpening stones ie medium stones though. The 6k cerax is almost the same like 1k chosera. The other lines like rika and ouka are the finishing stones that leave brighter scratches. Wheras chosera is all purpose do it all line, which includes medium-course stones like the 400 and even 600, all the way to mirror polishing and finishing stones like the 5k and 10k.
The Naniwa is extremely hard, decently friable, SNG, with a very nice and even but also finer 1k finish. Cuts well, but it is one of the more friable chosera stones. As evident by the big green mess it makes in use. Unlike say the green 400 grit which cuts extremely well, leaves a great finish, very even, and also seems finer than 400. That thing is hard, minimally friable and cuts amazing. The cerax is a soaker. It's extremely friable. Not as hard or dense. Cuts really well. But the finish it leaves is nothing like a SNG. It's for wider bevels. More friable muddy so you can use less pressure and or get wider bevels.. the finish it leaves is nothing like SNG stones, it's a matte sandblast looking finish that looks more like 400 chosera than the 1k. But even then. Both have their place but they are nothing alike. I would really suggest either. Unless you have a need for it. I like the 700 and 6k cerax. The 6k cerax is more like a 1k chosera. Grit ratings are very arbitrary and only relative to the product line. Also not the whole story because how hard and friable a stone is, including the binder, which is what makes it hard/soft and friable or not, determines how those abrasives regardless of their coarseness or fineness actually cut into the steel. This is why the 1k cerax leaves scratrches on steel that look NOTHING like the scratches the 1k chosera makes on steel. The chosera line.. the 1k is okay. The 400 is where it's at. The 600 is good but also more friable. The 800 is a really good one. The 10k I also really like. I think combos like 400 + 1k is most common. Idk man. Stones are such a weird thing. Like pokemon. The benefit of the chosera over say like shapton glass, which is actually very similar to chosera in terms of like.. hardness and friability and whatnot, kind of made to compete with it... the chosera leaves nicer scratches at every level, even though the glass cuts better in most cases and like in the higher grits the difference is idk man. The 500 glass cuts at least as well as the 400 chosera if not faster but I just like 400 chosera more. I'd likely take the 1k, 2k, 3k, glass over the chosera. The polishing stones like the 5k and 10k chosera and the 6k and beyond glass, is idk.. I guess they're basically the same same. im gonna stfu.
Hi! What is that device, that you use on the stone, before you sharp the blade? Is it some sort of planer?
That is a diamond lapping plate. Mine has 2 sides with different grits. One side is a 400 grit, the other is a 1000 grit. It can be used for sharpening knives or for removing chips in a straight razor as well. The main purpose that I use it for is to flatten my stones, or to raise a slurry to increase cutting power of my stones. I hope this helps.
Yeah cerax is a nice fast true 1k and the Naniwa is also but alittle more refined but both great..
I permanently soak the cerax and find u get better feedback and also strangely a harder feel
C-rex's the better choice although the Nanaw is a nice Stone but it's been known to dry up and crack. Although for straight edge razors I prefer shapton glass stones or straight up Arkansas I have all these Stones I've mentioned
I do like my Cerax as well. I reach for it all the time. The Chosera is equally as nice, is splash and go, and might polish just a bit more. But I think I like the feedback of the Cerax. Toss - up. Both are great stones....
Of course the naniwa professional is harder. You are comparing an aluminum oxide to a ceramic stone. One soaking and one slash and go