Rally Raid Level I Front fork Kit Installation
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2022
- The Rally Raid Complete suspension upgrade Makes the new Honda CRF300L a VERY capable off-road lightweight trail adventure bike.
LINKS:
www.rally-raidproducts.co.uk/... - Věda a technologie
Thanks Juan and Jenny for that informative video. Down under, we've fitted a Level 2 kit to our CRF300 L Rally and look forward to giving it a work out.
Thanks David!!
Blancolirio fan that didn't realize you were also a ADV/Dual Sport guy. I started watching the video and said, "Hey, that's Juan Brown". Did the Lev2 upgrade and loving it. Great job as always.
This is a very informative video. Thanks for sharing the process with us all, y'all did a great job explaining things as you went along.
The Rally Raid people were all very helpful and their suspension kit was top shelf!!
Zen and the Art, with the aid of Pete and a Magic Carpet! This is getting better than Netflix could hope for. Love "...the smell of adventure!" Thank you J, J and Pete really enjoyed this one...
As an owner of a 250LRally I highly appreciate all of the moto content. Specifically these regarding the rally raid suspension. I will soon be making this upgrade after you and Jenny going over all the specifics. Looks like a no brainer. Thank you!
Another bang up video! I used your CB500X RR videos when I did the upgrade on mine. I'm planning on doing the same to the 300L Rally and this was very insightful and gives me the confidence to do it again.
Great explanation on how those shocks work and also an ideal father son project.
You don't know how much enjoy this video. So much to learn from both of you. Thank you for share your knowledge.
While I don't indulge in adventure riding, I have upgraded the front suspension on my motorcycle - a 1985 BMW K100RS - with Race Tech gold cartridge emulators and springs, so I found this very interesting. A great tutorial for those that want to do upgrades/improvements to their motorcycle suspension. There was nothing like this for my bike! Great video. I've been watching you for years.
It wasn't planned - but I couldn't resist - watching the pilot with screws and tools and some oil and grease for good measure..
You are THE MAN Juan - CONGRATS !! 👍👍🥂😉
Based on MAD TV recommendation and your EXCELLENT video I have now successfully upgraded the suspension on my 2014 Honda CRF250L. Thank you for the excellent tutorial.
Excellent Robert!!
I successfully upgraded my 300 Rally with the Level 1 kit. Once I got started working, it wasn't so scary. Thanks for this helpful video.
I'm scared, aint started yet .
The first video of yours that I watched was you, and a much smaller Pete, working on your 500x Rally Raid upgrade in your back yard. You now have progressed to working inside on carpet with an expert overseeing your work. Thanks Jenny! It did inspire me to replace a leaking fork seal on my 500x. Thanks Juan!
And smaller bikes as I age...;-)
@@blancolirio and one day you will be old enough for a CT125 …
Brilliant instruction thanks Juan.
Installed race tech springs for my weight on my kx and it made huge difference also did fork and shock valves
Shock specialist, Juan, changing the 'bounce and jounce' !!
Pete looks comfortable with a wrench in his hand, following in dad’s footsteps I see 👍
Great video. I like how Jenny supervised you. 👍
I'm just here for the beer... although as they say, turns out there is no such thing as a free lunch!
Thank you for such a well done video on this install. I was a little bit apprehensive about doing this my self but now that I have watched this I think it will be no problem for me to do it my self once I get the parts ordered and in my hands.
What about all the specialty tools needed do they come in a kit?
@@TheZakkmylde I think you can order them when you order the kit.
@@johnpagejr.7628 oh ok. Did you end up doing the front was it easy?
@@TheZakkmylde have not done anything yet
This is a better video than the Rally Raid one. Great job
Why have this unlisted? This is a great video! Would love to see more like this. I love airplanes and motorcycles!
Thanks Nate! Public now that we are on our way on these bikes.
Watching from Spain. I was thinking of getting another three hundred 2 stroke but after watching your video bought the Honda. I live 10 minutes from the TET trail and so far have enjoyed the bike. The only thing I don’t like is the pathetic suspension. Great video! Thankfully Brexit hasn’t effected us too much here usually only adding a few days to delivery from the UK.
Juan, doing it all.
Nicest piece of carpet for a bike breakdown 😂 nice to see Pete growing up big and strong….. 👍💪🇺🇸
I like your song about short people. I have the short people problem. I've rode motorcycles all my life (58 now) and never knew what was in the shocks and how they worked inside. Love riding mountain trails and wish I knew about this upgrade. Great job Jenny and Juan!
That's a quote from the song by Randy Newman. Fun
Forgive me…I’m not a biker….so I skipped to the end to ensure your change of kit was doing the trick…appears it is!
You and Jenny do have a way of making these types of videos very informative for those in the know. 🇳🇿🇳🇿🐑🐑NZ
Great thanks just what I needed to see.
What a cool kit that is wow
Man I wish they had this kit back in 2000 for my XR650L dual sport! Man I had to be an Olympic jumper to get on and off that bike!
Nice, like the how to videos.
Good video Juan. I just bght a 2022 300L. And being old and short, need it lowered.
Good stuff Juan....thanks
Dick West
Pilot and dirt bike rider too very cool!
So funny I watched your ch for awhile for the aviation stuff.. Then all of a sudden im watching a CRF300L video and was thinking this guy sounds familiar... Ha. its you!! I just bought the RallyRaid level 1 rear shock with the hydraulic preload adjuster.. Not sure about the fork yet. I may cheap out and just to a spring kit in the left leg.. Will see. Great video! Thanks
Lt Pete with the assist!!
Thanks!
Thanks Blake!
So it’s a like the jet needle in my old Mikuni carb. Wow ! N.E.OH Bob
Juan thank you for sharing this link to this video. Thank you to Jenny (Not your Jenny) as well. I grew up with Bikes & Aviation & love both. Maybe you could start a second Channel for more content like this, raw & real. In no way am I detracting from your main channel I love it & am a Patreon from Australia but with video's like this one you don't have to be so "correct" in this day & age where you cannot offend anyone. That crap effing drives me nuts! ANyway, I'll shut me yap & enjoy this. Thanks, Leo.
i guess an AP mechanic is qualified to to this job! and makes it look easy!!
Thanks now I know
Minor point but when you show taking the damper rods apart you are using the spanner for the preload, you "should" ideally use the pin spanner for that, as wrenching against the preload mechanism "could" damage it, whereas using the pin spanner there is no chance of that. The pin spanner applies force against the outer housing of the assembly as opposed to the inner preload components.
Use a pneumatic butterfly impact wrench to remove the bottom screw on the fork. They are fast and will zip the bolt right out.
Hand tools only in this hangar...;-)
Please ensure that you have a damper rod holder when you go to tighten the Allen key that holds the dumpner rod I've seen way too many people have their lower forklugs fall off after having their forks apart
I suggest you give Jenny your mic when you do bike upgrades.
Thanks Juan and Jenny. Haven't ridden bikes in quite a while. Juan, I think I know might know the answer to this but how do you have so much time to pursue hobbies? Is your schedule 10 days on and 20 off of something similar?
I need to get some brass oring tools and pry tools for just that type of job. dont like steel on steel
Hi Juan, I've watched your aircraft stuff and recently watched your motorcycle videos. just wondering if you have ever ridden the Jemez mountain trail system in New Mexico near Cochiti, New Mexico, you have to check out the tent rocks if you haven't.
Not yet...good tip!
Did the level 2 fork kit come with the Spanner wrench for the Right Fork Tube top assembly? The spanner wrench you show with the two ears.
Hi Juan, great video! I’m 5’6” with a 30” inseam. Do you think I can reach the ground with feet on a CRF300l?
This looks like the sort of thing I should pay someone else to do. In the end, it would cost less and actually work as expected.
That’s not a comment on your mechanic ability, but rather…. on mine. 😏
I added a 250 Rally to the garage, to get some dirt training and experience on, and am quite enjoying the little Honda. It will definitely need suspension work, when I’m less of a noob to dirt, but it’s probably fine for my current level of experience.
Even if you break even (labor vs. buying tools), you have some great tools you can use again.
Good to see you back on a bike. What back bag do you use for this motorcycle?
A Giant Loop Coyote is the way to go with these bikes - perfect size (39L) for lightweight camping gear, and plenty of room for you to move around on the bike... the Rally-Raid rear rack is the perfect location for the rear straps, and gives you some additional space for a smaller bag behind too if required.
Video on how to make the bike and air engine at home. 😁
What is your weight and which spring stiffness option did you go for front and rear?
I didn't see the top cap spanner on RR's website, or maybe i just wasn't using the right search term. Does it come with the fork kit? I found the the seal driver tool, but not the spanner. Any help?
The large pin spanner (for the top caps) comes with the kit, along with a small 22mm ring-wrench to keep in your trail took kit to adjust the preload as required.
wow
Thanks for this! I just ordered my RR Level 1 kit for my CRF300 Rally. Do I absolutely need the new side stand? The stock one is too short for the Rally as it is.
You can probably get away with the standard stand with the LEVEL 1 front and rear suspension, however, if you load the bike with luggage, then you might find it stands a bit too upright, especially on uneven or cambered surfaces... It's also worth getting their short side-stand anyway, as it is both stronger tubing, and comes with a much stronger spring too. Plus means you can always fit a side-stand shoe for soft terrain without the bike being too upright.
@@jmo2752 thanks Jenny! I will go ahead and order it then. I enjoyed chatting with you over camp coffee with Pete and Lisa at Overland Expo West last year. Appreciate all your knowledge and advice 😊
Nice video, thanks!
Did you end up needing a shorter side stand?
I installed the RRP shortened side stand, it's beefier and leans better.
@@blancolirio Thanks ... since the oem side stand is too short with the stock suspension I wasn't sure if an even shorter one would be needed with the RR Level 1. Now if I could just get Jenny to come and help me do the suspension install so I don't muck it up ... lol
The removal of the right fork spring is a problem for me. It went perfect in the video. Not for me. Any suggestions? 2022. Holes drilled and the snap ring doesn’t move. Help
Got it. For those having problems here was my fix. When he is using the tool to drill the hole in the fork tube he was putting hard pressure on the tiny fork spring. This allows for the snap ring to have no pressure on it from the spring. This is far more difficult than you see. I drilled the hole. Then used the taller aluminum tool. I put the base of the tube in my abdomen and put the edge of the tool against the edge of my bench to compress the spring and used a dental tool to push out the spring.
Also on the left fork the bottom cap screw spins. I used ratchet straps top and bottom to pull them apart so the internal part of the cap screw doesn’t spin. Doing this by myself. Hope this helps at least one person.
I recently ordered a 310gs and plan on doing the level 1 kit as well. Would it be correct to assume the procedure is generally the same as the Honda?
Yes, very similar - although the G310GS fork and corresponding upgrade kit is a simpler design, and everything fits in the left leg on those bikes, so you only need to replace the top cap on the right leg - and there is no need to split the legs apart unless you also want to replace the seals.
There are fitting instructions on the Rally-Raid website for the respective products, plus I think they have a video of the GS fork upgrade too.
I'm 175cm tall. Should I (most likely) go with the level 1 or level 2 set?
Level 1 sitting height is the same as stock, level II sitting height is 2 inches +/- taller...
So the level one kit is designed for short people? I need to do this to my rally, how much did it cost for everything?
About $1200us
More videos with Harvey soon?
Oh yeah!
You have the flying carpet under the bike already for the trip.
You have to get this shipped from the UK with a 20% vat tax?
Brexit…
your side kick Pete is a growing up Juane
He'll soon be riding along on these adventures!
@@ronframe387 pete already had a bike that he and juane go riding with
@@johnypitman2368 I'm aware of that. And when he grows a little more, he'll ride along on these cross country tours!
Juan, I know you are traveling, but please follow the tragic mid-air at VGT on Sunday. I am familiar with the airport if you would like to contact me directly.
Update on Wed
Hi ho Silver! Away!
The result was an improvement but is it worth 800 euros? vs just putting in a heavier good quality spring in the fork?
There is a huge difference. The stock damping cartridge is tiny in comparison - you have three times the volume and adjustable damping, together with spring preload adjustment on both legs (there is now a spring in each leg, not just one).
If you simply put a stiffer spring in the right hand fork it will overwhelm the already soft damping in the stock cartridge, leading to a pogo-stick like action when it rebounds... adding thicker weight oil will slow it down, but then make the small bump reaction feel harsh.
If you're going to spend any money on these bikes, then do a proper job - they are worth the investment.
You can have all the power in the world on a bike, but suspension wins races.
@@marcochavane3124 Or in adventure bike terms: Suspension makes for consistent 200 mile days and not 150.
@@bwyseymail And more! As you say, the main benefit - other than better traction and control - is less fatigue on both you and the bike itself over longer distances, especially day after day style riding on rough terrain.
Does this kit have COMPRESSION and REBOUND ? Looking at this set and rear shock?
Yes!
@@blancolirio Thanks!
I am on the fence between the crf300L or the crf300 rally and the klx300. I want the cfr rally. I am 130lb 5' 11'' rider. I have not had a chance to sit on any of the bikes I'm interested in. Where would a stock crf be for a rider of my size? Thanks.
You have a pretty ideal build for the stock suspension on either Honda
"Bits"....must be technical term!!
Would this instal be basically the same for any cartridge kit on the 300l?
The YSS fork kit requires removal of the fork lugs. You will need a torch to heat the lugs which are loaded with lock tight. Also there is a grub screw that will have to be drilled out to be removed. If I had it to do over again I would have bought the RR kit.
Juan, please note; In UK it's "Cling Film" , how copy ?
Yeah it is actually the same here but people use the original brand name "Saran Wrap" Just the same as adhesive bandages being commonly referred to as "Band-Aid" no matter the brand.
That common language barrier...lol
@@blancolirio 🤣 Yeah, you're common, we have language !
@@blancolirio To be fair you did say "Spanner", just need to teach you now that a "Snap ring" is also a "Circlip" !
Don’t know if I’d be keen to do this job without Jenny supervising.
I’m just here for the beer...
On the carpet!?
Is there a reason the left and right side are designed differently?
simplicity.
Cost. The damper cartridge is the expensive bit and stock only has a single spring in the other leg.
@@bwyseymail Doesn't seem logical to an oldie like me to have one side damped and not the other.
@@delukxy the fork lowers and axle [connecting them] work as ‘whole’ - even high-end completion USD forks often use this format these days, as do almost every mountain-bike fork, saves weight and adds simplicity.
Clingfilm Sir, clingfilm …
Divided by a common language...
Bikesbikesbikes and beef
A proper man cave...
I think you put the seal in upside down . I thought that on all oil seals the spring goes on the inside facing the oil . I have never put a oil seal on with the spring facing away from the oil . Will you check this out and make sure the spring of the seals shouldn't be facing the oil .
No!
The spring on the dust & oil seals point outwards. His installation is correct.
The oil seal has 2 springs, on the inside and outside
@@jonnoMoto Oh okay I was wondering how that worked ,Thanks .
Yeah, forget teaching a man to fish, teach him to turn a wrench and update his suspension!
Don't you want to clean everything properly before reassembly? Seals should be dry fitted on the outside (no oil) to stay in place. At least the wiber seal.
Any particular reason you're working on the bike on a Persian carpet? Does your wife know where her carpet is?! 😊
I'm guessing that carpet has never been to Persia...
No more KTM?
3...
What is her accent?
British with a tinge of mid-Atlantic these days ;o)
Ha ha I hope that’s not a genuine Persian carpet.
I'm soooooooooooo confused
"VERY capable off-road lightweight trail adventure bike".......Almost, but you NEED to upgrade that crappy clutch. I have details for you (pdf file) but I can't find your contact details. EDIT: OK I found it, file on its way to you. You need to watch the video. Good luck.
5000 offroad miles no problem with this clutch. One rumor on the internet does not make it necessarily so.
@@blancolirio check with Itchy boots. She’s not the only one. Ride safe
In my experience suspension systems should be designed by trained experienced engineers for the best result
Gordon, this WAS! Tractive Engineering in the Netherlands and Rally Raid Products in the UK....now go back and watch the ENTIRE video again in it's entirety and PAY ATTENTION!!
I love your channel. But where is your helmet? My daughter is an anesthesiologist. She sees a lot of motorcycle riders in the ER. It’s like a seatbelt. Wear your 🪖 Helmet.
He does, on the trail. But just like you don't buckle your seatbelt to move the car a couple of feet he doesn't wear a helmet to drive around at slow speed outside the hangar.