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    The sibling rivalry that nearly shattered a plane is now taking precon form! On this budget upgrade guide for The Brothers’ War Commander deck “Mishra’s Burnished Banner,” Jamie Block joins us to lay out the 10 cards to graft in (for under $30) and the 10 to remove in order to get this powerful precon into top war form!
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Komentáře • 241

  • @bakubaku6204
    @bakubaku6204 Před rokem +94

    You guys should definitely add a dishonorable mention section where you place cards like either heart and mind slaver

  • @EmperorsTeeth
    @EmperorsTeeth Před rokem +107

    Would be interesting to see an upgrade guide that only use old-border cards, to maintain the 'physical' flavour of the deck.

    • @shesgard37
      @shesgard37 Před rokem +12

      That's what I'm personally doing with this deck. Trying to decide between Ashnod or Mishra

    • @EmperorsTeeth
      @EmperorsTeeth Před rokem +9

      @@shesgard37 I'm currently setting up a template to turn all the tokens into '90s Player Rewards style ones.

    • @theamazingincrediblespider9689
      @theamazingincrediblespider9689 Před rokem +6

      This is what I’m doing. Hopefully they keep rolling out old borders in the future

    • @jorochimaru
      @jorochimaru Před rokem +2

      You don't need a guide. Build your own. Look online at what cards are available in old bordered

    • @lechampion2349
      @lechampion2349 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I build mines using retro or old borders cards only and it’s looking amazing especially the foiling

  • @JD-ly7sq
    @JD-ly7sq Před rokem +19

    Add:
    Enthusiastic Mechanaut
    Etherium Sculptor
    Aether Spellbomb
    Skysovereign Consul Flagship
    Delina, Wild Mage
    Karlach, Fury of Avernus
    Goblin Engineer
    Arcum Daggson
    Thunderhawk Gunship
    Gonti’s Aether Heart
    Nautiloid Ship
    Cards to Cut:
    Prophetic Prismk
    Geth, Lord of the Vault
    Workshop Elders
    Hellkite Igniter
    Metalwork Colossus
    Scavenged Brawler
    Blast-Furance Hellkite
    Traxos, Scourge of Kroog
    Muzzio, Visionary Achitect
    Mirrorworks
    Honorable Mentions:
    Bloodthirster
    Sundial of the Infinite
    Obeka, Brute Chronologist
    Mindslaver

  • @w33dwizard420
    @w33dwizard420 Před rokem +33

    I think they should have an updated deck list in these videos, that’d be cool

  • @jalalabad1983
    @jalalabad1983 Před rokem +7

    one thing about Mirrorworks is that it's very good in decks that run a lot of 'big' mana rocks that come into play untapped. Thran Dynamo, Gilded Lotus, Hedron Archive, Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, etc. - because they pay for their own copy!

  • @LVMTG
    @LVMTG Před rokem +45

    These old bordered Commander Decks have me feeling like a kid in the candy store. I’m pumped.

    • @LVMTG
      @LVMTG Před rokem +11

      @@lunarlight3131 I started before the modern card frames so the old borders really speak to me.

    • @Torsav
      @Torsav Před rokem +3

      @@LVMTG I feel this. I'm happy that they're bringing them back. Wish they would foil them the old way as well. TSR nailed it.

    • @LVMTG
      @LVMTG Před rokem +3

      @@Torsav If it was the old school foiling technique, I don’t think my little cardboard addicted mind could handle it.

    • @Torsav
      @Torsav Před rokem +2

      @@LVMTG Same boat, buddy! I pulled a foil Mulldrifter from TSR and was super hyped!

    • @L8RSTORM
      @L8RSTORM Před rokem +3

      I started in 2011 i like old frames

  • @Flip4Crypt
    @Flip4Crypt Před rokem +13

    Josh passively talking shit about sponsors' requests is the best segment I could've asked for in a budget upgrade video

    • @therealax6
      @therealax6 Před rokem

      I don't think that's a sponsor? They probably sent them a not-so-nicely-worded letter reminding them that Warhammer 40,000 is a trademark and that they can only use it in this and that way... and they're getting the malicious compliance they deserve for that crap.

    • @Flip4Crypt
      @Flip4Crypt Před rokem +3

      @@therealax6 very true, I suppose Sponsor wasn't the correct word, I just feel as though something like this has been brewing under the surface for Josh for a while between sponsors and specific requests and such, gotta love all the CZcams comments correcting them on something they don't have a say in hahah

  • @MarineS0n2
    @MarineS0n2 Před rokem +13

    Another great card is Irenicus’ Vile Duplication. Make a nonlegendary copy of Mishra for an extra trigger each combat

  • @CynicalLight
    @CynicalLight Před rokem +40

    MTG missed the opportunity to send the book back to print. One of their best books overall.

    • @gaebril131
      @gaebril131 Před rokem +1

      Bought it on Kindle and read it just last week

    • @fatewalker
      @fatewalker Před rokem

      Started re-reading it. Both hard copy and kindle versions

    • @EmperorsTeeth
      @EmperorsTeeth Před rokem +1

      I had the whole story from thr Thran up to Mirrodin. I've no idea what I did with them after I left Uni, nearly 20yrs ago.

    • @_somerandomguyontheinternet_
      @_somerandomguyontheinternet_ Před rokem

      I bought it at a half price and it is SO GOOD

  • @LE0P0LD
    @LE0P0LD Před rokem +3

    A few cards I’ve added that makes people really unhappy making pain with minimal effort is Unwinding Clock and Chaos Wand, then they can’t destroy them if you’ve played Trading Post cuz you’ll just get them back from the graveyard and I also added Darksteel Froge and Platinum Angel for absurd destruction, just a few cards I’ve added
    This video was great help to make my deck better, thanks and much love ❤ continue the hard work 😂

  • @loptr9581
    @loptr9581 Před rokem +14

    I’m very late, but something cool that seems to have gone overlooked is that Mishra changes the name of the token to “Mishra’s warform”. What this does is that it actually gets around the legendary rule and allows you to have two legendary artifacts on the field at the same time. This could be relevant for Gonti’s aether heart, since you don’t need to immediately sac one to the legend rule when it comes into play

  • @DraygaFlight
    @DraygaFlight Před rokem +4

    You missed some VERY spicy cards...
    Saverek's Tome - Get the initiative EVERY TURN (and extra mana to boot)
    Wishclaw Talisman - TUTOR!!!
    And the spiciest of all?
    Retributive Wand
    Looks like janky junk, until you realize...
    When it hits the grave, it does 5 damage to any target!!!
    So, smack with it for the 4, and then pop it for 5 more!

  • @michallaszyn933
    @michallaszyn933 Před rokem +21

    You should do special edition upgrades to both decks, where you add only cards that have old border version

  • @dorsalfin22
    @dorsalfin22 Před rokem +9

    So glad you guys have the whole crew helping out with all these product release episodes! Love seeing what kinds of adds different players suggest. Also can't wait for whatever your next podcast episode is. Still crossing fingers for one on removal/interaction!

  • @sensei470
    @sensei470 Před rokem +17

    One aspect about Blast-Furnace Hellkite you havent talked about is that artifact offering allows you to play him with flash which allows you to play him when an opponent attacks another opponent and make an attack leathal after blocks.

  • @lukebranam-wenger1999
    @lukebranam-wenger1999 Před rokem +8

    I really like Altar of the Goyf in this deck! It has the Lhurgoyf type built in, so it gives itself trample when Mishra copies it lol. Plus multiple copies can stack up for a big swing

    • @jonahcoffman3078
      @jonahcoffman3078 Před rokem +1

      That is amazing!

    • @SimpleVisionVideos
      @SimpleVisionVideos Před rokem

      Niceee, id say it's a good boardwipe punish because it'll probably be the only creature you'll attack with at that point, there will be less blockers, and potentially more card types will be in grave now due to the board wipe.

  • @submortimer
    @submortimer Před rokem +37

    Like, Eminence is a bad ability which should basically be a 12 on the storm scale for Commander products...
    But it feels like a missed opportunity for Mishra, Eminent One.

    • @Urd-Vidan
      @Urd-Vidan Před rokem

      Sadge

    • @therealax6
      @therealax6 Před rokem +2

      I guess the issue is that every eminence ability can be extremely strong.
      Even something like "whenever you cast your first artifact spell each turn, scry 1" could snowball.

    • @Urd-Vidan
      @Urd-Vidan Před rokem +5

      @@therealax6 yeah. Eminence is basically, "Free something, always".

  • @TheKfro
    @TheKfro Před rokem +3

    Anyone notice that Josh says “go ahead Jimmy” as they head into the stats? 😂

  • @austinturgoose
    @austinturgoose Před rokem +3

    Blast-Furnace Hellkite has such a cool art, gotta play it for that alone

    • @DiogenesNephew
      @DiogenesNephew Před rokem

      And I gotta play it because I literally work on blast furnaces

  • @David-mx1os
    @David-mx1os Před rokem +2

    I think retributive wand is a really strong and cheap card to add to this deck, it synergises so well with Mishra's ability

  • @peadrianlastname
    @peadrianlastname Před rokem +12

    Sure cardkingdom gets your cards out in hours, after a 3 day processing time. Don't get me wrong I love cardkingdom but theyr a lot slower than they used to be

    • @pizzadeliveryman8740
      @pizzadeliveryman8740 Před rokem +1

      Yeah and they’re also generally pricier. Guess it makes sense because they’re the most popular seller so demand is higher but idk it certain cards are even up to $10 cheaper somewhere else

    • @rynebillings2226
      @rynebillings2226 Před rokem

      It really is slower these days. I think I get cards from tcgplayer faster most of the time

  • @joshuarush5762
    @joshuarush5762 Před rokem +3

    I really really really appreciate these great upgrade guides coming out in time for me to gather the cards so I can upgrade the deck and play when it's actually released thank you thank you so much

  • @DjavoJ
    @DjavoJ Před rokem +1

    Nice. Finally I found a good vehicle commander. Gonna build around it😁.
    imposter mech would also fit nicely in this deck.
    And it has the may clause, that means you could let it still enter as imposter mech since it's a 3/1 it won't die immediately even if you crew it afterwards. Almost same effect as the effegy.

  • @Spi7fir3
    @Spi7fir3 Před rokem +1

    Just finished the Urza episode and discovered this went live, awesome!

  • @arkanixarcmage6225
    @arkanixarcmage6225 Před 6 měsíci

    Wish claw talisman and reckless fire weaver. Both PERFECT for this deck. If you don't add those, then your missing out!
    arcmage

  • @wildman274
    @wildman274 Před rokem +3

    I think it needs to be stated that with Machine God's Effigy, while you are able to copy a creature on its initial etb, once its in play, any copy effects will copy what is already in play. Once you copy something, it loses its etb to copy, so you would just make a 4/4 of whatever MGE came in as that taps for U when you copy it with Mishra

    • @jaggedeagle
      @jaggedeagle Před rokem

      Yeah Jamie was saying that sometimes you elect to *not* apply the replacement effect and have it just come in as a rock, then Mishra's trigger will make a copy that has a fresh replacement effect to copy a new choice every trigger, instead of having it locked to the copiable values of the original effigy copying something

    • @SniperGoldfish
      @SniperGoldfish Před rokem

      @@jaggedeagle well it say you may on the card so simply put

    • @wildman274
      @wildman274 Před rokem

      @@jaggedeagle that's all fine and dandy, I was more just stating for those that may not know how that works.

  • @threscik
    @threscik Před rokem +6

    Hmm, maybe it's just me, but Card Kingdom has had 3+ day processing on everything I've ordered for the last 3 months. Can't really keep calling it freaky fast shipping.

    • @starmanda88
      @starmanda88 Před rokem

      I love card kingdom but yeah have to agree.

    • @Fivehe
      @Fivehe Před rokem

      It’s been suggested before CK might push out orders faster to Jimmy and Josh

  • @SingerOfW
    @SingerOfW Před rokem

    Every Ouran shout-out deserves major props.

  • @The_Og_Cracker
    @The_Og_Cracker Před rokem +2

    Bro, machine gods effigy makes you able to copy wurmcoil engine and just have a shit ton of the 3/3's after you have to sac it

  • @Dothethingsprepping
    @Dothethingsprepping Před rokem +2

    The Brothers War looks like the best release in a while!

  • @billberndtson
    @billberndtson Před rokem

    12:38 I swear that exactly this moments an ad came on that said "6 bucks for all that?" And I was like, whaaaaaa? 🤣

  • @acoolmusician1107
    @acoolmusician1107 Před 8 měsíci

    Added a transplant theorist to the deck and had it and Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain out and played a bunch of artifacts so I ended up with twelve cards in my hand

  • @weirdo82
    @weirdo82 Před rokem +1

    Prized Statue from Baldur's Gate is ridiculous for this deck. Imagine instead of drawing two cards with Ichor Wellspring, you can make two Treasures a turn.... Hell, I kept it so both are in the deck!

  • @gypsieking3280
    @gypsieking3280 Před rokem +1

    Cursed Mirror looks great in the old frame

  • @romelalters8078
    @romelalters8078 Před rokem

    The Heart! The only thing running in my head all this time LOL

  • @francogentile383
    @francogentile383 Před rokem +2

    i will put a Bloodforged Battle-Axe...pretty awesome combo with mishra.
    And imposter mech and saheeli the gifted and Drach'Nyen.
    And i forgot about jester cap and illuminor Szeras!

    • @jacobisbell9388
      @jacobisbell9388 Před rokem

      I don't see any combo with Mishra and battle axe. Literally none of the lines of text do anything when you turn it into a creature.

  • @Marlax-101
    @Marlax-101 Před měsícem

    also 6 removals but add the spellbombs. got 4 decent ones that can kill creatures or draw cards

  • @Boyahda
    @Boyahda Před rokem +8

    No idea how the burnout hasn't set in yet. I feel like you guys are releasing these things daily now.

  • @grampaw5605
    @grampaw5605 Před rokem +1

    WOW...Almost to Episode 500! ‼

  • @mckenziestone3302
    @mckenziestone3302 Před rokem +1

    Delina, wild mage would actually work with mishra because mishra triggers at the beginning of combat; whereas, delina triggers when she attacks

    • @radikalskippy
      @radikalskippy Před rokem

      Yes, but what they wanted to do was create multiple Mishras for their copy effect, and that one won't work because the copies made with Delina aren't there for the Beginning of combat step

  • @ajcreeper442
    @ajcreeper442 Před rokem +2

    So excited for this episode

  • @bashlindsay7618
    @bashlindsay7618 Před rokem +4

    I am curious, are we going to watch those two Game Knights Games from Magic 30 on here?

  • @prollybee
    @prollybee Před rokem +2

    super cool, tho i really wish they released these in legible border

  • @Phe0nix1986
    @Phe0nix1986 Před rokem

    Bought it. Can’t wait. Really interested to see how it works! :D

  • @devonswindells8004
    @devonswindells8004 Před rokem

    Jamie reminds me so much of the dude with the glasses from tap tap concede

  • @stephenchandley3071
    @stephenchandley3071 Před rokem

    Geth, Lord of the Vault seems to only be in to show the added Phyrexian creature type. :)

  • @psychoabattoirhorror
    @psychoabattoirhorror Před 11 měsíci

    I added Hammer of Purphoros. 1MM Legendary Enchantment Artifact. Creatures you control have Haste. 2M tap: sacrifice land create 3/3 Golem artifact enchantment creature.

  • @ytsejam58
    @ytsejam58 Před rokem +3

    I really want one but i also really want painbow. $80 down the hole i guess :3

    • @starmanda88
      @starmanda88 Před rokem

      I’ll vote for painbow. The deck is an absolute blast to pilot. I love 5C decks so it’s right in my wheelhouse. So much fun!

  • @baddonkey75
    @baddonkey75 Před rokem

    Urzas deck is really good out of the box and upgrades are super easy, can't wait to tinker with my moshra deck

  • @PiquantPan
    @PiquantPan Před rokem +2

    if i’m thinking thru the triggers and restrictions correctly, i believe the blue mana artifact + Bloodthirster is infinite combat steps. each combat, you make a copy of the non-creature mana artifact, which ETB’s as a new Mishra’s Warform that doesn’t have a restriction on which players it can attack. since each new Mishra’s Warform can get the Bloodthirster trigger and restart combat, that’s a table wipe assuming no flying blockers or removal

    • @therealax6
      @therealax6 Před rokem +1

      Yeah, if you make a noncreature Bloodthirster, you go infinite or almost. And remember that, if you attack with multiple of them in some combat (the tokens stick around until end of turn), you get multiple extra combats (use some dice or something to keep track of the "stashed" extra combats), so even if you can't get in cleanly at the end, you can retrigger Mishra for more tokens and more attackers. (The "stashed" extra combats don't cause any untaps, though, so be careful with that.)

  • @catbruvs7083
    @catbruvs7083 Před rokem +1

    To me Urza is simple and straightforward..
    I call those types of decks auto drive decks but Mishra on the other hand I can’t just use the same game plan and create a whole bunch of menace artifact creature 10/10s every game.
    I have to use what I have, play around and survive on the board.

  • @ProphetofEndTimes
    @ProphetofEndTimes Před rokem

    Command Zone blooper real would be fun

  • @Epicrobotbattle1
    @Epicrobotbattle1 Před rokem +1

    Scavenged Brawler would go great in a Denry Klin, Editor in Chief deck

  • @jcalendar882
    @jcalendar882 Před rokem +1

    Nautiloid ship doesn't work the way they think. The effect is attached to the new nautiloid ship token not to any cards in exile.

  • @lechampion2349
    @lechampion2349 Před rokem

    I can’t wait for those decks

  • @francescor3642
    @francescor3642 Před rokem +4

    one card you definitely should not cut from this deck is mirrorworks. Also in the spirit of constructive criticism, in a deck with only 21 creatures plus mishra cards like Etherium Spinner, Sai Master thopterist, efficient construction, mirrodin besieged and saheeli sublime artificer should really be considered so that you have a steady stream of blockers at least.

  • @buddatello
    @buddatello Před rokem

    You could keep traxos in for combo potential. It retraction helix ornithoptor and something like altar of the brood to do stuff with the infinite bounce is fair and most groups won't complain about a 4 card ez to stop combo

  • @LadyTsunade777
    @LadyTsunade777 Před rokem +3

    This new Mishra is going right into my Obeka deck. Even though it's not an artifact-focused deck, being able to make permanent 4/4 copies of my mana rocks is still nice.
    That Ashnod kinda feels like Verrak in a way, how they both copy things based on paying non-mana costs.
    Scavenged Brawler is great for Voltron decks, giving plenty of relevant keywords and a decent pump.
    Blast-Furnace Hellkite is actually a really nice card. Offering gives it flash, and the last ability is a static ability and not triggered, so you can potentially wait for one opponent to attack another opponent, then flash it out to cause their attack to be a surprise kill or something.

    • @VexylObby
      @VexylObby Před rokem

      I actually found replacing my Obeka deck with this much more fun. It's more consistent, fun to play against, and there is less risk of the plan being fumbled. And Obeka just slots into this deck just fine without a whole strategy shift.

  • @Okamiden15
    @Okamiden15 Před rokem

    Mindslaver + Ashnod is gonna be so fun.

  • @lucasperrella9280
    @lucasperrella9280 Před rokem

    Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge seems like an absolute no brainer in this deck

  • @noogieboyskullbustah7799

    I love your heroic version of Blorpityblorpboop. "Then today our people go to war." I didn't espect that from a sticker collector.

  • @whoisyouwhoisyou
    @whoisyouwhoisyou Před 8 měsíci

    when you said he’s 5/4 I thought you were talking about his height for some reason and I genuinely got confused but it’s power and toughness lmaooooo

  • @Sinfamous81
    @Sinfamous81 Před rokem +1

    I love mirrorworks.

  • @HomeBurger
    @HomeBurger Před rokem

    omg they fit brudiclad's new type line on a card

  • @traviscastelli725
    @traviscastelli725 Před rokem +1

    New to Magic, so sorry if this common knowledge. I want to put the Obeka, Brute Chronologist into the deck. I am concerned with how Mishra's text reads; if I use Obeka to end my turn with Obeka before the End phase I get to keep my Mishra's Warform(what ever I turned into), but does it go away at the next players end phase? Mishra Eminent One's text says "Sacrifice it at the begining of the next end step".

    • @weirdo82
      @weirdo82 Před 11 měsíci +1

      The way you use Obeka or Sundial of the Infinite is that they end the turn. Mishra's ability to sacrifice the token is a triggered ability("at end of turn, sacrifice"). You move to your end step, and the trigger goes on the stack to sacrifice it. You activate Obeka/Sundial while the trigger is on the stack, ending the turn right there, *and removing all abilities and spells on the stack when you do it.*
      In short, Mishra's end step sac ability only cares about the end step during the turn it was created. Activating Obeka while that trigger is on the stack, removes it from the stack. That end step IS the "next end step".

  • @Tiiimo7
    @Tiiimo7 Před rokem

    Mirrorbox is fun to play with in the deck.

  • @cmoore6547
    @cmoore6547 Před rokem

    With Mishra and sundial making more and more tokens I'd copy darksteel citadel. I'd even be tempted to actually use darksteel ingot in that case

  • @jyomi7506
    @jyomi7506 Před rokem +1

    I'm soooo torn on which of these decks I want XD I got into paper with Shorikai, so all these artifacts are great but they're gonna break the bank at this rate lol...

  • @greeneking77
    @greeneking77 Před rokem

    I would never mix those hideous new frame cards in with this beautiful old frame deck.

  • @twitchster77
    @twitchster77 Před rokem

    I always tell myself I'm going to go budget on these precon upgrades. Keep things fun and casual.
    I alway fail. Magic is expensive! lol
    >.

  • @danielp2673
    @danielp2673 Před rokem

    I feel like twinning staff would be an interesting add. I don't know how copying it will stack with its own effect.

    • @armageddon28
      @armageddon28 Před rokem

      You would only be able to make one copy of the Twinning Staff with Mishra's ability because cards are only considered spells when they're on the stack. But if you did have 2 Twining Staff in play and you copy a spell you would get 2 additional copies of that spell.

  • @Weirdfreakindude
    @Weirdfreakindude Před rokem

    Mishra with brudiclad in play is insane with whatever you are trying to do because im pretty sure mishra only checks the one token it creates where as brudiclad lets you make all tokens you have currently in play copies of any other token. Correct me if im wrong. Triggered are at choice on how they trigger. So you have mishra trigger to make a copy of an etb artifact or like a sol ring or arcane signet. Then you have brudiclad make a 2/1 myr and then have each token you have at the current become a copy of mishras token (the 4/4 construct) which because of the way its worded. You would only have to sacrifice the original construct created with mishra and have however many other 4/4 copies for use in any way
    Correct me if im wrong about how those two cards work, but nothing says this creature has "sacrifice it at the beginning of the next end step"

  • @andreaferrario4190
    @andreaferrario4190 Před rokem +1

    I've a problem with ruling: the copy tokens made with Mishra gain the supertype "Legendary" if they are copy of legendary permanents? it's not clear at all and i want to be sure of what I play. (sorry for any error... I'm from Italy and my english is not perfect)

  • @blul1te653
    @blul1te653 Před rokem +3

    TEAM MISHRA!!!

  • @kylejones5518
    @kylejones5518 Před rokem +1

    Maybe I'm an idiot here, but doesnt the "gontis aetherheart" combo not work as described, since it's legendary, and mishras copy effect doesn't remove the legendary subtype, meaning you'd immediately have to sac one of them, so they won't both be around to give you an additional 2 energy counters on next Artifact cast?

  • @egbert5871
    @egbert5871 Před rokem

    14:35 in a couple years way faster now that you said so lol

  • @proteus404
    @proteus404 Před rokem +1

    Skullclamp doesnt seem too bad pay one each turn to draw 2 card when the Warform dies.

    • @mublysnubly3407
      @mublysnubly3407 Před rokem

      Or just copy wellspring and draw two cards for free

    • @weirdo82
      @weirdo82 Před 11 měsíci

      Skullclamp only draws you cards when the *equipped creature* dies. Unless you're talking about equipping the Warform that you just made, which would need some instant speed equip shenanigans.

    • @proteus404
      @proteus404 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@weirdo82Yeah I equip my skullclamp to my warform token, for 1 mana it isn't a bad cost to pay each turn to get 2 cards when you sac the warform. My deck I have some good payoffs for sacing the warform early in 2nd main instead of waiting for endstep.

    • @weirdo82
      @weirdo82 Před 11 měsíci

      @@proteus404 No, I get that, I misread your comment. I thought you were saying that the Warform dying draws you cards by itself. Don't mind me, I've seen several people misunderstand how it works, and thought you were doing the same. Your comment initially sounded like you were just making a copy of skullclamp and sacking it(without equipping or any other steps).
      It's a fine idea, just misread, my bad.

  • @equos5060
    @equos5060 Před rokem

    I just wantnold border basic lands from those decks...

  • @drunkgerbil9962
    @drunkgerbil9962 Před rokem +2

    Will you be uploading Game Knights Live?

  • @murabito4699
    @murabito4699 Před rokem

    can someone make a list of the cards I should add and replace? Already saw the vid, but damn, now I need to watch it again if I want to actually add cards to my shopping cart.

  • @Kinson007
    @Kinson007 Před rokem

    Sundial would be a bad add, because it won't work as you think it will. Read the last sentence on Mishra. Sacrifice the token at the beginning of the NEXT end step. Meaning if you use Sundial, it will stay alive, yes. But at the end step of your opponent, you have to sac it.

    • @JordanPridgen
      @JordanPridgen Před rokem

      It does work actually! You just have to put the sacrifice trigger on the stack at the end step, then activate sundial which gets rid of everything on the stack! Then once that delayed trigger has fired once it doesn't fire again. It's a little tricky but it works!

    • @Kinson007
      @Kinson007 Před rokem +1

      @@JordanPridgen You would have to use sundial at the end of EACH players turn though. The card says "Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next end step" and NOT "at the beginning of YOUR next end step". So you use the sundial ending your turn, opponent #1, their end step, trigger to sac them goes on the stack. You'd need to use Sundial again. Therefore, you'd need something like an Unwinding clock (which I just got from a Brothers War pack a few hours ago). to be able to do the sundial every turn.

    • @JordanPridgen
      @JordanPridgen Před rokem +1

      @@Kinson007 nope! I understand why you think that, but a delayed trigger like that only goes off once. It doesn't re-fire every end step from then on. That's how all the tricky sundial decks work.

    • @tonywacholz6279
      @tonywacholz6279 Před rokem +3

      The key here is when you end the turn with cards like sundial or Obeka, it exiles all abilities on the stack. So if you end the turn with the ability to sacrifice the token on the stack, then the ability goes away forever and you never need to sacrifice the token. Pretty sweet.

  • @Tornven2003
    @Tornven2003 Před rokem

    I'm adding contagion engine tbh

  • @Marlax-101
    @Marlax-101 Před měsícem

    mirror works is a bit high but its also copied by mishra. 5 mana to copy and then maybe you can trigger them fore more and more copies. if you get 1 additonal copy then it copies artifacts twice for 4 mana. then 3 for 6 ect.

  • @gabrielnguyen5580
    @gabrielnguyen5580 Před 11 měsíci

    wait for skysoverign if the name changes does the etb still trigger>?

  • @DaKareerKilla
    @DaKareerKilla Před rokem +1

    One rules question I cannot seem to find an answer for is:
    If you have Machine God Effigy (while it's just an artifact) or Cursed Mirror become the Mishra's Warform. Then have them enter as a copy of a creature, does the token still have the name Mishra's Warform or is it replaced with the name of the creature the effect is copying?

    • @DiogenesNephew
      @DiogenesNephew Před rokem

      I'm not really qualified to answer this, but take Cursed Mirror for example. As soon as you play it it itself becomes a copy of a creature until end of turn; in that case, is it still a valid target for Mishra's ability?

    • @DaKareerKilla
      @DaKareerKilla Před rokem

      @@DiogenesNephew Cursed Mirror is an optional Static Ability. As it enters you can choose to have it become a copy of a creature.
      I'm just trying to understand if CM or Machine God Effigy are not a copy of anything, whether they lose the name "Mishra's Warform" if you choose to apply that Static Ability. My guess is because the word "except" is used it would still retain the name and be a 4/4 Construct. But I'm not 100% on that.

    • @DaKareerKilla
      @DaKareerKilla Před rokem

      I got my answer. If you target Cursed Mirror with Mishra, Eminent One, and choose for it to enter as a creature on the field, it will lose the name Mishra's Warform and the other stats set by Mishra's ability until end of turn.

  • @stevo8908
    @stevo8908 Před rokem

    They should have named it "Mishra's Mad Mechanicians"

  • @werewolfhunter1119
    @werewolfhunter1119 Před rokem +1

    So with mishra it says sacrifice the copy token on the next end step that wouldn't work with obeka cause we would haft to ask our opponents to skip their end step allowing us to keep our copy token am I right or did I get it wrong?

    • @stephenwalker5061
      @stephenwalker5061 Před rokem

      Once the ability has been put on the stack it can’t go back since it’s already put it’s delayed trigger on the stack

  • @archangelalchemist
    @archangelalchemist Před rokem

    If you use In Too Deep you can turn a creature into a Clue but then if Mishra copies it out becomes the original right? Are there any amazing combos you can do with this, like the creature that gives you an additional combat?

  • @DirtyMikeandthaboys
    @DirtyMikeandthaboys Před rokem +1

    Can anyone explain the rules on all these ETB effects for these artifacts or even the combo in this upgrade list? If Mishra changes the name do they even happen? if the artifact for example "When Nautiloid ship enters the battlefield, exile target players graveyard" You make a copy of Nautiloid ship with mishra but its name is Mishras warform so when the copy ETBs its not the original name right like stated in the text of the card? If anyone could explain I would appreciate it

    • @ojiibo
      @ojiibo Před rokem +1

      When a card ability references the name of the card, it's tied to the card, not literally referencing that name. You can think of it saying "this permanent" instead of "Nautiloid Ship"; the copy would say "When Mishra's Warform enters the battlefield, exile target players graveyard" instead

  • @LucRice
    @LucRice Před rokem

    for sundial of the infinite the tokens go away at the next end step so if you don't have an end step the next persons end step will still happen and they will get sacrificed

    • @weirdo82
      @weirdo82 Před 11 měsíci

      You wait for the sacrifice triggers to go on the stack on your end step, then activate Sundial of the Infinite. You still get an end step, you're just ending your "end step" step.

  • @dardanfougere4532
    @dardanfougere4532 Před rokem

    I know this may be a weird question but could you bring back deck doctors or how to build a deck for a certain commander

  • @ethanparker6047
    @ethanparker6047 Před rokem

    where can I watch the live game nights with this deck?

  • @surplusvalue5497
    @surplusvalue5497 Před rokem

    They cut all the creatures lol

  • @spunkyslimeguy6900
    @spunkyslimeguy6900 Před rokem

    Hey would you be able to exile Mishra warform mechatitan core while keeping the original mechatitan core on the board, thereby being able to repeatedly replace the super Titan

  • @silva2silver
    @silva2silver Před rokem

    Geth was probably added because he is Phyrexian now

  • @jianhaogao7608
    @jianhaogao7608 Před rokem

    How about Prized Statue? two treasure everyturn

  • @kainhighwind2
    @kainhighwind2 Před rokem

    With Mindslaver, when their turn starts, can I just tell the player I'm controlling "You concede."?

  • @blubblub61162
    @blubblub61162 Před rokem +1

    I couldn't disagree more on mirrorworks. It sticks around and you don't need 10+ mana and need to do it all in one turn. This synergizes way too well with the other copy ETB artifacts to cut

  • @inakue
    @inakue Před rokem

    What is the dice tray showed at 3:49? I can't find it online! :(

  • @indiefilm1999
    @indiefilm1999 Před rokem

    Would Teferi's Veil keep the Warform tokens from being sacrificed?