Giant TCR Vs. Cannondale Supersix EVO | Our Favourite £4k Road Bikes Tested
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- For this year's Road Bike of The Year, we're putting the Giant TCR and the Cannondale SuperSix EVO head to head to see which is best. Though the Giant TCR and Supersix didn’t win the overall title, they are both some of BikeRadar's favourites in the test. But which is the best bike?
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Giant’s ninth generation TCR marks the 14th year that the brand's road line has been topped by its ‘Total Compact Road’ flagship. They’ve moved away from the simple 3 sizes, adjustable stem and multitude of seatpost lengths to achieve a wide variety of fits. But, they have retained the original compact shape with its sloping top tube and steep aggressive road race angles.
The SuperSix Evo should be familiar to plenty of you, it’s our reigning bike of the year in 2020, and throughout the years, this third generation model has been one of the finest handling, race-orientated, road bikes around.
Watch to the end to see which one comes out as our winner. Which would you choose? Let us know in the comments!
00:00 Intro
01:56 Frame design
04:19 Specifications
09:40 How do they ride?
11:05 The winner!
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Which would you choose and why? And do you prefer the old Supersix frame shape? Let us know in the comments!
This video dropped precisely when I was considering the SuperSix. Great timing and video!
@@Sergio_Math Get the SuperSix. :D He even says at the end that this is the bike he'd go with. I own one (Hi-Mod) and it's fantastic. Cannondale's customer service (warranty etc.) has been great as well.
I've owned the 2020 SuperSix Ultegra for almost a year now, I have to say it is the best bike I've ever owned. Just amazing, fast, compliant, corners and descends like a dream. However, I would not mind trying the TCR!
I'm a Cannondale fan but not a fan of the dropped stays, never owned a Giant before but this year I went with the TCR, the value it offered was too much to resist.
Giant TCR Advanced: Compatible with any groupset, Di2-ready out-of-the-box (relevant hardware and silicone plugs are included with the bike), no proprietary cockpit, satisfactory ride feedback. There's not much to fault about this bike.
And I'll definitely take the previous-gen SuperSix EVO with rim brakes any day, just like the Cannondale I used to know.
I'm on my 2nd TCR nd am looking no further. I've been riding since 1980 and have been on many different brands of bikes. I have been in the bicycle industry for 35 years and I have not found a better bargain bicycle than the Giant TCR. Performance and ride quality are where it is at. Thanks, Giant!
As an employee of a giant/Cannondale dealer, love both of these but I always recommend the tcr
Any reason in particular or just the (obvious) value for money?
@@mikebrewer1346 mostly value but the compact design tended to be a better geometry for a new road rider as opposed to the old supersix
i prefer the looks of the tcr
Top man - Evo…
@@dominicbritt like warren, my heart says evo too
My heart went for the previous Evo and o can't be happier, this lightweight round shaped rim braked beauty is all I needed
Last year I was in the same situation, I had to decide wich one to buy between these two. I went for the supersix, I know that giant has a better value, but the color, the look of the evo got my heart and I'm pleased with my choice
Great choice. When buying a bike, always follow your heart.
@@djdelarosa25 exactly, in the end every bike performs the same when ridden by an average human and not a pro, but the satisfaction of riding the bike you like, that will make you faster
lol follow the hearts on buying a bike,ya soon i will buy all the bike big brands name and tests ride it if i got huge wallet 😅
I bought the TCR model shown here and I couldn’t be happier with the ride and value for money. Mind you I have always had TCR’s and usually loyal to a great brand and product.
Got the 2020 Supersix and love it!! Took your recommendation and it definitely is a fun bike! Goes downhill like a mad man!!! Great review and keep it going!
Thanks for watching and so good to hear you're loving the bike!
My heart is also with the Evo, I have a custom build caad13, but the value of the TCR is undeniable, power meter, weight and rims. I love them both and would be very happy either way 🥰👍🏽👍🏽
Since 86 Cannondale’s have always impressed me. Especially their aluminum CAAD series. The best in the lot for any money.
I’m a bit of a Giant fanboy given my last 4 bikes have all been Giant so it’s no surprise that I’d pick a TCR. I think Giant consistently produce good bikes for sensible money which is why I’ve kept buying them. That said, if anyone has a Canondale going free I wouldn’t refuse it!
I'm with you there Matt
My heart went for the Evo in 2020 and I have ZERO regrets. No issues with anything on the bike and I have racked up more than 5k miles on it since last July.
I recommend the videos from "Luescher Teknik" about the design failure of the SuperSix. Long story short, they have built a headset movement limiter within the fork crown that hits the frame itself when that limit is reached.
Not sure if C'dale has acknowledged the failure yet, and if they are going to do anything to solve it.
exactly, I would go with the evo, but this problem is unacceptable
I love my 2014 Giant TCR, it's light, it's nimble and it's red, black and white paint scheme is the best. But I am getting on in years and am switching to a comfort bike, the TCR Defy Advanced with its smaller 34/50 crankset and its 11/34 cassette, both of which combine to facilitate climbing those more difficult hills.
Just bought a TCR 2021 rim brakes version which no one seems to want to review anymore. hope they keep making them with rim brake option.
Brilliant bike, got editors choice in 2019 and was improved even further in 2021. great choice!
My heart goes with both 🤩, although I have Ultimate SL 8 at home.
I'd go for the Cannondale too. But, I just love Cannondales anyway. The Cannondale does look better in my opinion too.
I bought the 2022 Cannondale CAAD13 105 Hydro Disk for $2200 USA. It has the same frame profile as the $4500 Supersix EVO, but C1 Smartform alloy frame, and DT Swiss aluminum wheels. Cost 1/2 as much and maybe 95% as good as the EVO. This bike is still far above my skill level and a Best Buy.
Haha, I got new TCR Advanced 1 for 1970 Euro, it has even better value for money 😅
Great video, the tcr will be my first road bike which primary upgrades you recommend ?
I actually picked up both, the 2021 TCR advanced pro O and a 2022 Supersix Evo in the last week. Returning the TCR. Supersix has a little less aggressive stack, better finish, and more comfy ride. At this price point, I think that most are significantly less price sensitive than new buyers.
Also in the USA, most of the riders I rode with had no idea that Giant made anything more than entry level bikes…🤔. I had to convince them it was a serious bike.
Nice review
Interesting with the last part of your statement. I live very very close to a Trek regional hub. People around here are familiar with the big 3: Giant Trek and Specialized. Quite some of them that I have met actually have told me preferring TCR pro 1 over Emonda sl 6. Well I'm like you, planning to get a SSE as my next roadie. Enjoy yours!
I have enjoyed the TCR SL... and just got a Evo HIMOD... and I love them both!
Totally agree! I have the rim brake Cannondale Hi-mod 2016 and I’d take it any day over the modern bikes!
Got the Evo and absolutely love it 🚵
I just got a TCR a week ago and I love it!
I own a systemsix Hi-mod and I find it very comfortable, more than my old 2013 synapse. I tested a Giant Defy few days ago, with big tubeless tires (30 or 32), and I felt the road like crazy. I ride my systemsix with tubetype GP5000 at 6,5-7 bars and the road cracks are damped through the whole bike. With the Defy, an endurance bike, I felt everything in the handlebar. It seems that Cannondale damps with the whole frame, but Giant do it with the seat post and mostly from the rear. It was a strange feeling, I did not like it.
I would like to test the TCR but my guess is the supersix is more comfortable.
The sad truth about bikes : it's easier to test a Porsche or a Mercedes than a carbon road bike. We have to rely on youtube to make a choice !
Just purchase a TCR and it was the wheel set and power meter that convinced me.
I’ve got the giant tcr advanced 2017 and love it ,like to update to giant tcr dyf I’ve got the mavic flat bladded spokes which weigh 1440 grams for the pair.
Great bikes but I don't get the cable routing entering the frame on top of the downtube. I just cannot get used to the looks of it.
It doesn't look as clean. It kind of looks to me that they did it so they only have to have one opening made which can be the Di2 junction box location or the entry for mechanical cables.
They could have at least angled it a bit more so the cables aren't sticking straight up 😂
@@j1mbobable to be honest the problem is only on the bikeradar's bike, a local shop of mine puts mechanical gear cables inside the frame, mine has external cables but way way closer to the frame than on this video, making it look much cleaner
Of course Supersix EVO. Because I just ordered yesterday 😎
TCR all the way...brilliant bike
I was on the same ‘intersection’ & went for Adv Pro 0. The Cadex Race tires do feel different than the Gavia. A lot different even though they’re both 25. I followed my heart ❤️
Does anyone have any experience with the Calibre Bossnut? is it oo heavy? do the parts suck? plz let me know
Both bikes are fantastic but different from each other. I rode both bikes last year. The tcr is equipped with a 52/36 crank and much more a racing bike for the peloton. Stiff with high aero wheels. the sse offers more comfort with 50/34 crank and much more pleasant to climb with. I like them both
Owned a 2017 TCR Advanced Pro 0 and just bought a new Supersix Evo Ultegra. Supersix is way more comfortable on long rides and handles great. Supersix wins for me. Hookless rims are a no go for me.
where did you buy the shades?
still rocking my TCR advanced pro 1 2016 with rim brakes
I'm leaning towards the Giant but I am 2m tall with a 100 cm inseam and I think it'll run a bit small. Any road race bike to recommend? My bike fitter couldn't think of anything and I'm getting tired of riding a track bike which is also too small (60cm Dolan PreCursa)
Xl canyon I think they even have an xxl but I'm sure that would be too big for you.
TCR all day everyday...was sad not to see it on the tour this year...oh well...which was the nicest looking bike on the your this year...The BMC was looking really good, Mouric's Merida was probabaly the nicest looking..and kudoa to KTM as well
Overall (probably) what you get for the money, TCR is the best bike on the market, period. I have TCR 2015 and don't thing about a change in the near future. The geometry of the frame, carbon quality, aerodynamic, handling are superb! I have ridden many top bikes while being on holiday (rental)...still TCR is my choice...great all-around bike, fast on flat and in the mountains. I have no knowledge about Cannondale, but I like TCR geometry more...and those extra 500g of Evo.....it is a lot of grams.
You are so right! Now they tell us that 500g is nothing, but when manufacturer cut just 200g from the frame, he asks double the price!
Love my tcr but i have a caad 12 for winter and that is also a great bike
, the tcr is a brilliant bike 🚴 and wins easy for me ! It all depends on what fits best 👍
Nice t-shirt, impeccable taste.
Just got a 2021 TCR advanced pro 1 rim brake. Light qick strava pb slayer
great timing...trying to replace my broken bmc...one of these, bmc team machine, or aethos comp as alternate choice
i have the tcr however a friend as just purchased the Aethos a great bike and light cost £4500
@@keithbailey4044 yes looking at the reviews and availability it seems the aethos comp would be a good base to upgrade from - in normal times would have bought a frame and built one up but almost impossible to find parts
I might be a bit biased here but love the TCR.
Just replaced my 2018 TCR Advanced 2 with the 2023 TCR Advanced Disc 1+. Both bikes offer great value. The upgrade to Shimano 105 Di2 12 speed, hydro disc brakes and wide carbon hookless/tubless wheels is greatly appreciated. Giant TCR continues to be the performance value leader.
How are you finding this bike? I am looking at the exact same model.
How does Tarmac SL7 compare?
P so I went back and forth between TCR and the Super 6 Evo and I Hammond an odd I took too long to make my choice I was like do I need to you know go for the lighter weights or should I really dive into cannondale's pitch and I ended up finding a very gently used one for just over a thousand bucks with the the d style seatpost all the components you're talking about and I switched out the tires to 28 mils on the continentals and I can tell you I am so happy that I went with the Cannondale The bike has been nothing but amazing just like you said Sprint's going up hills it just seems to want to go and go I have nothing bad to say about the TCR at all the value was great but like you I went with my heart and I'm glad that I did
Mauricio Neilla
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I had two giant tcrs, one the top-of-the-line SL and another entry-level, both 2018 the entry-level tcr was a really horrible sausage and I also had the supersix 2020 rim brake that I thought was very good but I had to sell it and today I have this new 2021 tcr disk brakes that I found excellent I don't feel twisting even applying 900 watts to it I thought it greatly improved the rigidity of the frame
A question to all...looking for one bike to rule them all so which one of these would fit the bill? I do a bit more climbing than flats mind you. Cheers!
I'd take the TCR Advanced. The SuperSix EVO has a steel bump stop at the fork's crown, which if it hits the frame hard from a sudden steering input in, say, a crash, it can cause cracks at the bottom of the head tube (refer to Luescher Tecnik's video about this, but the one he had on hand is bladed, one of the ones I personally see is round).
giant tcr
Lol, my heart goes for the S-Works Venge or Ridley Helium SLX
but both have semi-integrated cables... (still a lot of them around stem and head tube)
The SuperSix EVO's shift and brake lines can be fully internally routed with integrated cockpits, only the TCR Advanced isn't capable of that.
But it's not such a bad thing as that calls for greater cockpit compatibility.
i got the TCR and i love it so much. The cannondale sure looks great as well :)
i have TCR Adv SL 2021 in my living room. Just by looking it feel fast!
Power calibration on both sides is essential today i thought, if you're racing or training to win.
I'm a Cannondale owner but Giant definitely wins out.
Nice weight for a large and I still enjoy any mechanical shifting.
I wonder if Giant will produce a Dura-ace option with carbon power cranks?
are there no carbon productions bikes with external cable routing anymore?
Pretty much no. Wireless is starting to become affordable so bikes are shifting away from that. No harm in buying an older model frame.
If you're talking about full external routing (like the ones on 20th-century road bikes, but they're actually just called external routing), not on mass-production carbon road bikes at least.
If you're talking about traditional internal routing (where internal routing starts from the down tube and this is NOT called as external routing), usually the less expensive ones still have it.
what is a drag of the rider and what is the grag of the bike i know size of rider will make a difference but is it 70% rider 30% bike ?
You're close, around 80% of the drag is generated by the rider.
TCR can in theory be purchased brand new in rim brake version : lighter (fork and wheels), less expensive, and you can get loads of cheap second hand top notch race wheels to destroy during your crits.
Giant for sure 👍 so completely
TCR is brilliant. Its a bike that you will be happy with it after 4 to 5 years.
TCR ! Creakondale is guaranteed to creak!
Team Evo FTW! :D
How about neither???
Yup, my heart also goes for the Evo, even though the TCR is the smarter choice.
I had a TCR 2021 disc, and for the time that I had it it has not disappointed in the least. It’s fast, comfortable, and easily wins me my break aways.
That said, the only problem with the TCR is that it’s too damn common. Literally you can blindly throw a stone and will probably hit someone on a giant on the course.
So I sold it, and am now deciding between either the dogma F or the sl7.
Great bike. But not a bike that makes me happy owning one if that makes sense. So between the two, it’s certainly the supersix for me.
Isn't the Si crankset. It is the One cranks. They are heavier
'just shy 500 gr more than TCR' which will cost you USD 1000 to drop the weight,
Love my tcr.
I was always impressed with Cannondale bikes. They are beautiful and deliver on performance. The hi mod series is even better if the extra cash is not a problem.
Giant on the other hand reminds me of being a kid and going into the department stores with my mom and dad and seeing Giant bikes on sale for $79 dollars. I could never bring myself to buy a Giant bike.
1st world snob basically.
EVO looks better but TCR is a proven winner still and the old EVO has got those great classic looks . l ve ridden my friends old school EVO and its very stiff and fast but not sure l d want to ride that all day ,torturous .Since l ve got short legs tall torso l d have to go with TCR but older one with RIM brakes so l can fix it myself , l live in the flats NO hills :)
Man is that supersix heavy. My caad12 was below 8 kg and it cost me around 1600 €.
A Caad12 105 (rim brake version) in 58cm was 8,3kg without pedals. But it comes with heavy wheels, heavy tyres and the 105 group set is heavy as well. I swapped these parts I've mentioned and my Caad12 is now sitting on 7,3kg, but will be sub 7kg later this year after some more upgrades.
@@mrtnknrr Wheels and also seatpost on Caad12 were heavy AF. My Caad12 Ultegra (54 cm) is now 7.4 kg with pedals and bottle cages. And I use relatively heavy carbon fiber clincher wheelset (around 1700 g). No fancy stuff on that bicycle. I also changed seatpost (it was cheap), handlebars and seat (I would do that anyway no matter the weight). I also have different stem but there is no way to loose significant weight by changing it.
It is crazy how easier and cheaper is to get to 6.8 kg with a rim brake bicycle.
Excuses for buying disc brake bike like "rim brakes are destroying rims" and "I want to save money on my expensive wheelset" always crack me up.
Definitely the Evo....a better looking bike
Two amazing bikes. SuperSix is sexy but TCR more convenient.
I’ve ridden the SSE 2021 Ultegra and it blows my Emonda away!
Which emonda model did u have and what year?
Supersis evo definetley
Giant TCR for me
TCR for the win!
Specialized Tarmac - hold my beer!!
Both have such ugly cable routing into the down tube, I like both bikes but wouldn't get either because of this. I was looking at getting the TCR with 105, remove the 105 and selling, then fit AXS Rival.
How about a frameset?
I've bought a SuperSix Evo, black frame with white trim and white cables routed into down tube and I think it looks unreal! Each to their own I suppose 😁
TCR all day long!
I have put several 100 miles on both of these bikes in recent months and I must say there is one huge difference. The way they take power. If you can lay down some watts the TCR is going to feel like an angry snake beneath when you apply some power to the pedals. The bottom bracket and frame twist and shout, impersonating wet linguine at an Italian karaoke night. I was very disappointed in how the TCR felt under acceleration.
The Supersix felt like every other Supersix I've ridden, snappy and taking that power and turning it into speed.
I had two giant tcrs, one the top-of-the-line SL and another entry-level, both 2018 the entry-level tcr was a really horrible sausage and I also had the supersix 2020 rim brake that I thought was very good but I had to sell it and today I have this new 2021 tcr disk brakes that I found excellent I don't feel twisting even applying 900 watts to it I thought it greatly improved the rigidity of the frame
Almost and impossible decision to make. But! The TCR it is.
Basically the conclusion is that there is no real winner. For price/quality Giant wins, but purely on performance Cannondale wins.
Where Cannondale wins as well in my opinion is that during the last 3 decades they have been the #1 pioneer in bicycle innovations. It's not just that they win all independent tests for example for frame stiffness and aerodynamics, but the money you spend goes in R&D to make bikes even better, compared to Giant where your money doesn't go to bringing bikes to the next level, but rather in optimizing the cost structure. In my opinion it's not strange that with all the money Cannondale spends on R&D, you pay a slightly higher price tag.
Dear Warren, I really wish Bike Radar would give you a break and let someone else explain what a bloody kammtail is for once. You must be sick of it by now.
Not watched it yet but it's gotta be the TCR just on the basis if you have a cannondale you'll soon be returning it as the fork basically distorys the frame with the metal pin in it. It's literally all over the Web 😂
As the Cervelo. HELLO HAMBINI FANS
The SuperSix has that problem too? I thought it was the SystemSix
@@DaveCM
czcams.com/video/9u4_Ep8JbY8/video.html
yes, my heart is with the EVO
Good review but I won’t pick either one. The frame sets for both are just too skinny and the bikes look weak. I like the 2009 giant tcr zero. On top of that bike manufacturer that does offer rim brakes is a big no! I got myself a pinarello dogma f12 rim brake and I am please. Next bike will be a colnago! Rim brake of course. In the future I will have a titanium custom made and of course rim brake!
I've not had a supersix but i went from TCR to systemsix then back to TCR
Just curious. What didn't you like about the Systemic? Do you just prefer a lighter bike?
systemsix too aggressive bcus aero geometry?
It was a bit sluggish going up climbs compared to TCR. System weight wasnt far off TCR but I felt it when i was riding
@@pigupigu I guess that is why the TCR has the big fat downtube and bottombracket area
SS supposed to feel awful uncomfortable
Tcr !
GIANT TCR # 1 🇵🇱🚲
They need to redesign the knot/save stem and handlebar system. Looks ugly IMO. Giant has always been known as having most value for money.
I have it on my Systemsix and it doesn't look as bad. But I agree it does look a bit out of place on the Supersix
Giant all day long
Sorry, but I have a TCR 2019, it's a great machine, I'd go for the TCR any day. And I just can't stand a bike manufacturer that wants to peddle it's own crankset, it just makes it look worse than the TCR - and it doesn't have a Power Meter.
TCR all the way always!
I love my pre-drop seat stay EVO, but I'll never buy a dropped seat stay anything ever. I don't care about any benefits (perceived or otherwise). I just can't do it. Having said that, the Giant is a better looker here for sure as is the Specialized Aethos.
After getting rid of that "Crackn'fail" name and building wonderfully robust second generation bombproof framesets that the ultralighters love, Cannondale has decided to digress back to their old ways and to faulty designs with massive frame failures again. Go back to what's reliable (Specialized did).
4K for an 8.1kg non-aero bike with mechanical shifting, dodgy crankset, from a manufacturer known to produce frames with sub-par quality control. The bike industry has truly lost the plot over these past years.
What are you on about..
These bikes would have been 3k not 4k 2 years ago 😢
TCR wins hands down. Value, powermeter included, better frameset.
Cracknfail SS Evo with the self destructing head tube is a easy pass.
Do you guys get paid for coming up with these corny names denigrating Cannondale or do you just do it as a sort of mental masturbation?
TCR all the way
If the Evo had the power meter then you wouldn't even look at the tcr
only TCR
Real comparison starts @9:39 😉👌😁👍