WRC 1983 - Lancia vs Audi - The Most INCREDIBLE Rally Season!
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- čas přidán 27. 09. 2022
- WRC 1983 saw the emotional fight between Lancia 037 and Audi Quattro: 2WD vs 4WD, Italian cunning vs German organization.
Both teams had the best drivers: Walter Röhrl and Markku Alén for Lancia Hannu Mikkola, Stig Blomqvist, and Michéle Mouton for Audi.
A unique and intense season, who will be the winner?
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With a special guest: Cesare Fiorio (Sports Director of Lancia in 1983)
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You know, for a great story it's important to make great work, for this reason, this is a 10 hands work (+ the special Cesare Fiorio's touch)!
I really hope you'll appreciate it, we worked for months to assure you a quality video!
Just to underline how much the project was important for me, at a certain point in the video I will also appear personally for the first time on my channel...
It would be great to have more videos like this for other historic seasons, like Fiat vs Ford in 1977, or the birth of 4wd rallycar in 1981... but I understand it would take a huge amount of time, material and work. Well, I can dream and for now just enjoy this wonderful piece of work.
@@dimitrisvarvakis7724 I see how this Will go, then I decide 😉
@@TheRUBrally hey where can I find out more about the movie your talking about please
@@keldonk-h952 the name Is 2 win. It will be out Next year. On their Insta page they are giving some news
@@TheRUBrally thanks
Michelle Mouton is not only the greatest female driver in history. She is technically the greatest female sportsperson in history. Because she actually win against men.
And she was actually attractive 😂
Yes. She was a great driver regardless of gender.
One of a kind
@@jesusg853 Couldn't agree more - for 70/80's hot she certainly cuts it. Double threat!
One of the greatest rally drivers, period.
The Lancia 037 remains Röhrl's favorite car.
Sometimes I catch myself daydreaming about those times again, exciting races, crazy cars (Group B), excitement about drivers and manufacturers championships and drivers who really knew how to drive the car on the appropriate surface. I found Walter Röhrl's rides as elegant as a supple cat, whose ability is reflected in his successes.
Back in the day, My Dad bought an original 1983 Audi Coupe Quattro in silver. What a machine!!
I remember that year's Acropolis. It was a shock that Lancia won 1-2 over the Audis. Had a model car 037 on my schoolboy library shelf. ❤
This was definitely some quality content! Thank you ever so much for telling this great story. Keep up the great work.
Cant get enough of the 037. I must own a model in every scale. The 037 and the Strada were it in the 80's .
I grew up with these car's. The Martini livery is just timeless .As to the driver's it takes Onions to Manhandle one of these beasts
on or off the tarmac . This is an era when multiple driver's passed every year .
Thank you for letting me be a part of this!
Hi Jackoh, thanks to you! It was really a pleasure work together, I think your narration and your suggestions gave to the video gave an extra kick!!
Thanks for this informative video. The Lancia team's tactics at the Monte Carlo race made me chuckle.
The last Hurrah of the RWD rally car. To me, this period is the absolute pinnacle of rally. The 037, an absolute weapon of a car and the most desirable of all the group B cars.
Great video! Thanks for sharing it with us!!!!
Thanks a lot Robert!
Thank you for the video! I was 13 yrs old in 1983 and remember some of it on TV in Finland. Great season! Btw, my father knew Pauli Toivonen (Henri’s father) quite well
Awesome! I remember seeing Jeremy Clarkson's episode about this. I didn't know much about group b then, but watching that got me interested and now the group b era is my favorite time in rally history. Love the Audi quattro and the lancia 037 and delta s4! Also in the 70s there was the lancia stratos with a dino engine probably my favorite rally car prior to group b era
I had a Dino 246GT - the engine and the sound to me was the best part - despite it being particularly unreliable -and the driving position offset and awkward - a nice party piece was the downshift from fourth to second with a double dab of throttle between gears spitting flames out the back - I would often catch the glow in the mirror when it was dark!!!!
Walter Röhrl,one of the best Diver of all Time.
I don't know about his 'diving' capabilities, but he sure was the best driver out there....😁😎
Best driver still alive from that Era
"I don't like jumps"
Yep, right up there with Tom Daly !
What people forget is Michelle M did this in a ‘man’s world’ of the early 80s long before equality and quota filling. No free passes. Some might say in modern climate there may be the odd free pass. Michelle truly was a legend regardless of gender
Maybe in the future I Will make a special video about Michele 😉
Are you implying that simpery didn't exist back then?
@@TheRUBrally Please do!!?
Fantastic footage and commentary. Thank you!
haha, i can imagine angry italian tourists complaining and yelling at police demanding the road to be cleaned, gotta love the italians
Thank you for this video, unforgettable season 👍
Wow Therub, that was a well put together bit of rallying, the amount of information and videos that you had to look up on that must of took you forever to do, us rally fans really do appreciate it, keep up the good work please.
You and your brother make the best rally videos 😁
Thank you! This has always been my favorite year of motorsport and I adore the 037, but I had never heard the story in this much detail
Amazing Documentary!!!Incredible work!
This is even better than the movie. Great work!
Fantastic video
I was 7 yrs old when I first saw this back in 1983
I’m a die hard fan of the group b era that came next
Forza lancia and the beast that came after
DELTA S4❤
Great documentary, thank you!
Thank a lot buddy ,can't wait to see more videos from your channel
Thank you for this interesting video and information collection🙂👍
Good job! Thank you!
Wow. Good job, great commentary!!!
Thanks so much.
I love this.
Gran reportaje. Gracias
Awesome video!
Amazing video !!!!
Great video thanks
Muchas gracias!!!! 🇵🇱CANTABRIA 🇵🇱 🇪🇸 SPAIN 🇪🇸
Here before this video blows up!
*if* this video blows up 😅
@@TheRUBrally I'm sure it will, I have faith!
YES A MOVIE ABOUT IT I WANNA SEE IT. That is nice
proper video, thanks. please more content with 80s and 90s rally!
What a great story, it felt like it came out of a movie, I hope that this future movie does it justice. Grazie e mi sono iscritto
Fiorio: Salt of the Earth 😊🇮🇹
Hey tu, stai guardando questo video dall'Italia? sai che esiste una versione in italiano del video? La trovi sul canale di F1 Legends ---> czcams.com/video/vt9VE0Abox4/video.html Buona visione!
Such a shame that Lancia withdrawn the last two events... By the way, epic season and epic video! 🎉 Greetings from Sanremo!
初めまして、素晴らしい動画ありがとうございます。
Bravo!
Excellent
Very nice tribute. But eventually AUDI confirmed with the quatrro system for it and then all racing cars got 4 wheel drive to this day. Audi in 1980 had said and predicted that the time would come when even a mini cooper would be four wheel drive !!
1983. The greatest WRC Season ever apart from 1995 and 1998.
1998 soon on the Channel 😀
Excellent video. I rewatched The Grand Tour Segment yesterday and there isn't very much rally footage from 1983 most of the time is spent talking about the quattro and the 037 and Group B rules.
Thanks Marv, these words by an Expert like you mean a lot to me
Totally forgot I remember forgetting about this
Bravissimo!!!!!!
Love the thumbnail: Tall driver in the small car and small driver in the big car 🙂
😃top video
Always Forza lancia ❤️
Quando a aderência não era o mais importante o 037 era um ótimo carro.
This is the most interesting story in automotive history.
Do you plan to do more documentaries like this ?
Love the Lancia Stratos..
Those was the days, when I had more hair high than low on body and cars and competitions looked great and was night riding. Competitions was more interesting too.
you gota love the creative way the italians bent the rules too win . loved groupb but it was very dangerous all rallys was dangerous look at the crowds. i remeber a lancia driver saying he came back from a stage with peoples fingers stuck in vents from the crowd patting car as it passed
Same of many others you focused strictly on the creative way Lancia bypassed rules with some innocent tricks, but the biggest benting of the most stringent and important rule was by german AUDI, the rule of the 4 wheel traction forbid, a template of rally racing that was broken in favour of AUDI thanks to corrupt FIA...!
Ciao RUB, scusa il ritardo. Go un grosso problema sul computer che mi impedisce di vedere CZcams, bellissimo documentario! Ciao.👍
Ciao Yuri, tranquillo! Spero che tu sia riuscito a vederlo bene nonostante il problema
@@TheRUBrally Si, con la navigazione in incognito ho potuto attuare il traduttore in Italiano, ancora complimenti!
annata epica per il rally 💪💪💪
Grazie di essere passato Super, spero la storia ti sia piaciuta 😉
Per me il 037 in casa lancia è il re di tutti i rally, il deltone lo metterei al secondo posto visto che era una macchina troppo avanzata a quei tempi e non aveva rivali duri
Lancia 037 ❤
Wait what? There is a Rallye movie about this in production and Daniel Brühl is in it? (The guy who managed to even sound like Niki Lauda when portraing him in two languages!)
Seems like there is a reason for me go go to a cinema in the future again at some point.
🔝🔝🔝
Seeing how the main character of the "2 Win" will be an engineer, I don't think it's going to be as fun to watch as Ford v Ferrari
both amazing', cars for that time'! this shows its the race' car driver', not the cars power', peace
👍👍
The reasons why Audi lost the Constructors' Championship that year are very clear:
A World Cup with 2 asphalt races out of 12 in total and one of them without snow or ice as was Monte Carlo that year 83. It also excludes Safari and Ivory Coast which were "mini-raids" for "unbreakable tanks" style Toyota Celica Twincam 2WD . The rest: 8 rallies of dirt, mud and snow, should have been easily won by Audi and its 4WD car.
If you don't win the Sanremo, although here the tricks-strategy of Mr. Fiorio, who was allowed to "sweep" the dirt stages, literally, with assistance vans equipped with sweeper brooms and they were allowed to put in front of the Audi to the slower Lancias to leave the dust in suspension.
If Audi then due to reliability problems lost rallies that you should easily win like New Zealand and Acropolis.
Then there's a car that goes very well on all types of terrain, like a 037, which is also a very efficient "authentic Gr. B" mid-engine car and you have people like Röhrl, Alén, Bettega in your ranks.
If besides the Audi is a car that performs quite poorly on dry asphalt and is no rival to the 037 on this surface, and also has frequent reliability problems that adds many withdraws, you end up realizing why Audi did not win the Constructors' Championship that year. year 83 having everything in favor.
Real Rally!!!!
Thw best lookinh car at this time was the Renault 5 ....awesome.
Are you from East York’s?
Halifax West Yorkshire mate
New movie coming in 2024: Race for Glory: Audi vs Lancia
Yes I said in the video
The place where the current "small" rallies' system has born. No protection, lot of power, but mostly manouverability.
and Audi influence the change of rules that allowed 4wd
What was the reason for Stig Blomqvist being excluded from the New Zealand round?
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Lancia couldn't win without cheating
@@EpicFatLip - Troll
There were rules about late entries and Blomqvist’s entry was too late.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Walter 👍
Röhrl was the factor in Lancia winning the makes title in 83 more than Lancia's more dodgy tactics Röhrl had proven time and time again to be a thorn in Audi's side in past years Driving for the likes of Porsche in the 911 and Opel in the Ascona 400 .
winning the Drivers title in the Latter Opel against all odds. Lancia knew what they were getting talent wise when they signed Röhrl on his very limited race program. he had himself driven for Fiat before and secured his First Drivers Title, and Fiat just happened to own Lancia.
Röhrl also refused to sign to Audi at that time instead making it is person mission to beat the 4WD cars though he would finally relent for 1984 after Audi made it their mission to sign Röhrl at any cost so they no long had to suffer him making things so difficult for them.
This interesting story of Röhrl and Audi is accounted in Walter Röhrl's Diary book 1 that can be found in English unlike the follow up book 2 which to my better understanding was never translated in English.
In fact Röhrl regrets now not doing the full championship in 1983 as he would have probably won his third WRC Championship to add to his many pre WRC titles.
Once at Audi he went on to create a new legend there with various versions of the Quattro including winning first time out in the Quattro and then taking the only win for the Quattro evolution Sport the big winged Monster in 1985 . and then after Group B Pikes Peak hillclimb in yet another winged Quattro sport. and then all manner of other Types of Quattro based sports prototypes in the USA and Europe.
and lastly not forgetting his work for his favorite make of cars Porsche were he was a development and test driver and still is involved with to this day.
Only in my country of NZ would you have a rally car tangle with a cow
Lancia forever
Super Vidéo👌👌 BRAVO👍
Audi four wheel drive vs Lancia two week drive.. 🤣🤣 Then came Peugeot and Lancia four wheel drive. Wonder what happened then?
Maybe, if this episode will have a nice interest in CZcams I will prepare another similar video 😉
Then came Group B and they all went crazy....🔥
Haha, nice response from Lancia to Rohrl. He refuses to drive in Filnand and Lancia canceled last two races when Rohrl had a big chance for title.
He didn't like the "shumps" of finnland, he is a special one. But a genius
@@JP-xd6fm I can understand that only if he had issues with spine.
I highly recommend reading "Diary" by Walter Röhrl. He signed for 6 rallyes of his choice and those six (3 victories, 2x 2nd, 1x 3rd place) were already done when Lancia decided to leave out the remaning events. He didn't want to become WC for a 3rd time, because he didn't like all the publicity and being kinda superstar of the scene.
@@Donnerfink Yeah yeah, he did not want title and bla bla. This for sure I won't believe.
@@bestopinion9257 Yeah whatever...troll
Believing against facts is always a wise man's choice rofl
Quando lancia era ancora lancia
Much better than the Grand Tour garbage fiction from a few years ago.
Was Also great
Everyone said na na na na. Audi 4wd car wont work everyone doubted it ...audi new 4wd car at the time wins everything 🙂😃😃👍 the rest is history 👍👍
Any chance of some subtitles?
I uploaded the video with subititles... Just Remember to Active them, mate 😅
@@TheRUBrally am talking about the English spoken commentary 🤣
@@schanche1965 yes, you have to active them... There Is a button on the left of the video quality...
sorry but that background music drives me crazy
Lets not forget that Lancia (Fiorio) was also responsible for the death of Henri T in their frenzy to beat the 4wd revolution, with questionable decisions made that compromised safety.
I Saw the grand tour Jérémy Clarkson Lancia vs Audi and give me the chils and almost cried about Lancia s cunning and genious . Like Clarkson Saïd the rear wheel drive Lancia beated the four wheel drive goliath. Now i want to Say that this video IS very complète good job.
Yorkshire accent for the win. Snurr
Quattro all day
This is Real rallycars compared to todays toycars
I completely agree. These drivers where incredible, not just lightening reflexes, but True six/5 speed with 3 pedals! Not just to start! Incredible!!!
Are you in Cuckoo land???? What about Markku Allan driving for Lancia?????!!!!!!!???? Not as precise and smooth as Röhrl but with thrilling skills and willing to put it all on the line. He was the Gilles Villeneuve of Rallying.... Just because a long time has passed on since then does not mean true Rallye aficionados have forgotten their heros and their mystical machines.
Markku Allan ??? 😅
1985-86 was much more exciting
That was the most incredibile (imo) because a 2wd beated a 4wd. But in the future I planned to prepare other season reviews... Probably the next one will be available in the next months
86 definitively
i don't like jumps~
You know the fact that no driver dominated the whole series says a lot that my friend is racing that is how good this class really was sadly I kind of wish they would put more safety devices in the cars obviously but a number one factor get the crowds away from the damn track I mean that's entirely too close You can't be running across the damn track
When did a actual movie based on this became a thing?
2023!
@@TheRUBrally bruh, that's next year
@@misterjersey5460 0:21 a movie IS IN PRODUCTION 😅
@@TheRUBrally do we know the name of that movie yet?
@@basstard13 2 win
The 037 wasn't even that impressive when compared to the Delta Integrale S4 Evolution that Lancia fielded the following year in 1984. The 037 really only excelled on paved stages of rallies when compared to the Quattro.
The only lesson from this story: Lancia were cheaters.
Excellent, I'm just wondering if it's so difficult for an English speaking person to pronounce "LANCIA" in the right way, "LAN-CHA", not "LAN-SIA", which in Italian means "The Anxiety". Come on, repeat with me: "LAN-CHA, LAN-CHA, LAN-CHA...". In a couple of minutes you should be ready.
So what do we celebrate here? The Lancia as a car or that it required constant cheating to win?
the Germans had already secured their victories by changing the rules to their liking, more cheating than this is impossible
Just show how overated was tue Audi. And then the 205t16 and S4 kill it once it for hall.