Why is Coming Out of Shutdown is So Difficult? (SNB112)
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- Episode 112 of the Stuck Not Broken podcast in its entirety.
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I think I’ve been in shutdown for a long time and I can’t get out, I’ve pretty much been in bed for the last three years. I leave the house as little as possible (thank goodness I have dogs!) and isolate myself as much as possible. In the U.K. therapy is too expensive for me and the nhs is pretty much useless now for mental heath. I’m trying to get myself out of it and I rest don’t know how. I know nobody can give me medical advice as such but would it be possible to point me towards resources, videos, books etc? I’ve read some of Stephen Porges so I have the basics, it’s just I don’t really know what to do first if that makes sense? I have had several large traumas including 12 years of pretty severe DV (including broken bones etc). I’m 60 now and would so love to live some life before it’s too late, I feel like I’m just going to die here, slowly. I’m not sui***dal, I love my dogs far too much, but I feel so beaten down. I don’t know, I guess I need some pointers or something. I just lie here and read, doing the basics to look after my dogs and survive. I think I’ve got in a deep rut and I want to climb out, somehow
I have lots and lots of free resources for people. Go to my site (justinlmft.com), sign up as a free member, and you will get access to the Members Center, where I have collected a lot of content into learning hubs. I also have my courses, which are not free, but are intended to be a resource to help people recover from trauma. I am also working on book versions of my courses, but don't have a release date. There are numerous courses, seminars, coaches, and other options out there, they just all take a lot of vetting.
Look at Deb Dana's books, some are very practical, simple exercises you can do to start to climb the ladder. Deb was the original person who translated Porges' work into therapeutic contexts.
I'm with you 💞
Hope you're doing better.
How have you been? It’s been 8 months since your comment. Have you found anything that’s helping you. I’m in Uk also, and yes it’s such a poor service to get any nhs mental health and even GP help.
This means so much to me . Thank you so much
You are so welcome
Yes it’s hard but I’m more in to the rest and feeling all though it’s very hard sometimes but I find save through prayer ❤
Does your body shut down bro?
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You're very welcome, Martin.
thank you so much for sharing this
You are so welcome! Thanks for the comment :)
I need to get out of this shutdown crap and get on with my life ! How can I speed this up ?
It's a long process. I generally recommend focusing on building the safety state, then working on shutdown directly.
Thank You 💓.
You're welcome 😊
Thanks💓
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thanks a lot!!
You're welcome!
I’ve done some research on the polyvagal theory and the shutdown state and I think it describes my state really well, before going into numbness I remember being under a lot of chronic stress and now I am working to heal the numbness firstly by experiencing the numbness and taking care of myself more, my emotions have started showing up little by little but rather than me being anxious or angry and my repressed emotions appearing I feel happy, and when I think about my repressed emotions or anything stressful I just feel the emotion for a moment and then go back to being numb, I was just wondering if there’s anything I’m doing wrong? Or can feeling happy be a part of it too? I’m glad that I feel happier but I just wanted to make sure that I’m doing everything correctly
I can't tell you if you're doing something right or wrong, but it's normal to have a range of feelings when it comes to climbing our Polyvagal Ladders. It's not all-or-nothing, though there are some likely emotions that will come up when climbing. Like from shutdown, aggressive feelings are likely, but that doesn't mean other emotions won't be present as well. Falling back down the ladder is common as well. So even if one comes a bit out of shutdown, shifting back down into numbness may occur. It's not a failure, it's part of the process.
@@JustinLMFToh I see! thank you very much for your response!
@@mistiferhow are you feeling now?