Patriarchy -- power and gender in the 21c | Ananya Roy | TEDxMarin
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- This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences. One woman's powerful personal journey uncovers our own culture’s patriarchy, within the institution she serves and in the intimacy of her own family. For international development scholar Ananya Roy, nowhere is free of gender bias, and here she identifies where it occurs, how we defend it, and why it must be stopped within a generation.
Professor of City & Regional Planning and Distinguished Chair in Global Poverty & Practice at the University of California, Berkeley. She is recipient of the university’s highest recognitions for teaching and mentorship. The author of numerous scholarly books, Roy’s research is concerned with poverty and inequality both here in the U.S. and in the global South. Her book, Poverty Capital: Microfinance and the Making of Development is the recipient of the 2011 Paul Davidoff Book Award of the Association of Collegiate Schools of Planning, the primary book award in urban planning.
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key point here that she brought up: although oppression and more blatant examples of overbearing patriarchal standards exist in places where honor killings and acid attacks are prevalent, and that IS a problem, that doesn't mean that oppression DOESN'T happen in the U.S., and that's the point that I think a lot of people miss. People like to shake their heads and say "You're just complaining about small things that don't even resemble oppression, you already have rights. Look at women's rights in the Middle East and sit down and shut up." Ananya Roy has laid it out for you, in the most honest and objective way she can! She has experienced sexism and patriarchy on the ground her entire career, and she is sharing her experiences here. There's nothing more to it. I honestly cannot stand to hear people call this bullshit. If you think this is bullshit, you are either directly beneficiary of the patriarchy, you denounce feminism as the stereotype it has come to be seen as, or you simply haven't opened your eyes yet.
As an Indian citizen,I completely agree that patriarchy exists in my country and other third world countries.But I dont think that it exists in the U.S.Women have all the rights they need in your country.Just because one person got bullied at work doesnt mean that patriarchy is responsible for it.Maybe it was her fault and maybe she actually were bossy and would've really irritated the men in her office.But all these example were pretty baseless and makes absolutely no sense.Her speech does not prove that patriarchy still exists in a country like the US.
The reason no one takes third wave feminism seriously (the masses to whom it's directed at at least, media seems to revel in your witless ramblings), is speakers like her precisely.
Her first grand example of patriarchy was a relationship in which she was cheated on by her male spouse. If you define patriarchy as a social system that supports and explicitly exhibits male power exclusively, then how is being cheated on an example of this? Are you implying society should take a stance upon and legislate within your relationships, behaviors that are acceptable on behalf of your romantic interests? How is your partner cheating on you an exhibition of exclusively male power? How daft can you be?
The example of patriarchy that would reasonably qualify here- the harassment claims within your workplace, you did a poor job of elaborating upon exactly what behaviors you were referring to. I see this often from third wave feminists. Do not misunderstand me, in cases of institutionalized sexual discrimination, there should be no tolerance and such behaviors should be dealt with swiftly and uncompromisingly, yet fairly. We are not to resort to barbarism and simply smite all who you claim are guilty; elaborate on what behaviors you're referring to and when it's made into a legal matter (as it may be necessary) prove your case.
You social justice warriors and your cries of victimhood are intellectually depressing. Never have I personally witnessed such deplorable behavior accepted as a "righteous standard", literally blaming society for your husband having cheated on you and then quite brazenly claiming, and surprisingly, to the approval of the audience, that it was a matter of socialized sexual discrimination, effectively implying that infidelity is a sexual issue exclusively exhibited by men and that society somehow normalizes this behavior.
Please, if I missed something within her speech where she made an inkling of sense that would seek to substantiate the rest of her claims, direct me to it.
I agree, I didn't like how she brought her divorce up as evidence of patriarchy, because that is a personal situation and for all we know she could've been responsible for the divorce as well. But I see where she's coming from. I think she was referring to the fact that, although women do cheat, men cheat at a much higher rate, and the reason for that, or at least the reason that she seems to imply here, is that patriarchy enables them to do this because it defines this kind of behavior as acceptable among men.
Historically, society has always allowed men to have more than one spouse, concubine, etc. And while this practice is now outdated, men still do have a preference for dating more than one woman at a time. Men who have more than one woman are seen as someone to look up to, whereas women are encouraged to be more loyal and monogamous. If they are not they are shamed a lot more than a man. They are often branded as a 'slut' or a 'whore', and so on. Whereas men don't get this treatment. People just excuse this behavior saying "boys will be boys" because men have more hormones that make them more sexual or whatever. Basically, what she is saying is that this kind of logic is what enables men to act unfaithful, and sometimes even encourages them to do so, because this system of patriarchy also teaches men that they are entitled to women's bodies.
Which brings me to another point that is implied by this talk. The reason why men's infidelity is related to patriarchy is because it teaches men that they have dominion over women's bodies, and therefore can engage in sexual behavior with more than one woman if they see fit (her constant reference to "little thirds"). Men are raised to think that they are entitled to have "little thirds" or side women, so when their relationship is in a rut, they go to them to appease their sexual appetite. They do not realize that this is a form of betrayal, because for them, using other women's bodies for sexual pleasure is just a "physical" thing. They do not realize that a woman is a human being of equal value to a man and worth, and not a "thing" with which to relieve their sexual tension. Which is essentially why the woman speaking in this talk relates infidelity to the patriarchy, because such a system enables and perpetuates and even encourages this kind of behavior in men.
Agree
1) I'm pretty sure women cheat in marriage, and betray their partners.
2) People (Men and Women) criticize the thoughts and actions of others, particularly when rank allows them to do so.
Don't imagine that single year of my education was free of criticism from a woman (often correctly, sometimes incorrectly).
3) The trouble w/ not obeying the rules that are unjust is that--although rules are not perfect--each of us in imperfect, and could well be wrong at any time.
4) There is some evidence in this presentation, that the woman could have and should have been nicer...let me say as a man that one mistake often made by the almost men (such as teenage boys and some feminist...) is in acting as if being a man is as easy as being a pushy loudmouth. I'm here to say there is much more to it than that. I work w/ a lot of men, and although their job is to put warheads on foreheads, the pilots that I'm proud to work w/ are ...at least at my age and rank a very polite, patient, well educated and generally soft spoken bunch.
Rakhil T. I don't know where you live. But where I live women cheat as much as men do.
Mark Stump Citation needed ;)
Mark Stump I'm not saying that women don't cheat as much as men do. I am saying that society deems it more acceptable for a man to cheat than a woman. In fact men are often lauded for doing so, when women are often shamed.
Dear people in the comments, I understand your lack if connection with the 2nd wave feminist slogan "the personal is political" and your confusion at how her husband cheating links with systemic oppression. You don't have to agree with her that that link exists, but to morph her point by ignoring her analysis of instutional power? Most of her talk isn't about what her husband did. She explains it as a catalys for her passion. To HER, this personal revolution she describes channels into a potential societal one. It doesn't have to for you - but to dismiss 9/10ths of this talk because you're turned off by 1/10th? Love and respect.
No thanks mate. She poisoned her own well by crying victim. Gosha Popov
victims don't stand and show their vulnerabilities to the world, they dissapear to never be heard from again.
Gosha Popov have you not noticed how much being a victim pays these days?
She is saying her struggle is not a singlular one. It is her opinion that she believes men get away with having affairs with very young women because of their status and positions, something those young women don't have access to. That is her personal view of "patriarchy". I notice a lot of people being really fast to deny someone's pain because it's the fassionable thing to do. Whining about problems is annoying , but she is not whining she is offering an analysis and you do not have to agree with her conclusion by any means. Evan Lindsay
Gosha Popov So matriarchy is women who cheat and then take the husband for a whole heap of money?
That's stupid. So stupid it isn't even funny.
This was an incredible talk. I think it was very important that she shared her personal experience, because if she can't advocate for herself and her rights, how is she supposed to advocate for those women in India?
@@joeyhampton5075 It’s impossible because it’s a false equivalency. You’re so desperate to discredit her but couldn’t even get that right.
she speaks so well this was very very good and people need to understand the pervasiveness of subtle misogyny
Thank you, Dr. Roy, for telling your story and for the good work that you do. I watch patriarchy in action every day as my female graduate students ask me if they can have a successful academic career without giving up their aspirations of having a family (a question no male PhD student has ever asked me or my colleagues). I watch it as my closest friends, brilliant well educated women in various fields, default to their husband's careers and time, while they race around trying to simultaneously keep up their passions and care for their children with minimal assistance. I am fortunate, however, that I am surrounded by the type of network that you describe, in which both men and women understand the dangers of patriarchy and are working collectively to address it in my life, my field and my academic institution. I hope more people watch your talk and begin to understand what equality looks like.
ummm... i wonder how much money the patriarchy awarded her for divorcing her husband
@Avalanche ''alimony isn't much of a thing anymore'' LOL, how much this delusional this people are?.
Ha ha ha. The angry man speaks! 😂
Not enough to reimburse her for everything she put into it 🙄
You mean what man had to fork over to get rid of her?
There is no patriarchy. We have gender roles that are slowly diminishing, but there is no patriarchy in the grand scheme of things.
Thank you Based Kirby.
Carson Eastman Kirby knows best. No problem friend!
what planet are you from?
Kim Siebert I'm from Earth. Kirby is from Popstar.
I'm trying to figure out how "Women and children first!" is oppressive and patriarchal.
She made me feel like maybe I'm worthy of making my own ted talk after all lol
5:43 Adrienne Rich poetry about self determination of women who choose themselves vs being chosen or named by others in relationship to men or children.
Anyone who is skeptical about patriarchy existing has only to read the comments posted on this video, which inadvertently prove the very points made in this talk.
+teo5 B I N G O !!!!!!!!! Thank You Kindly.....
+teo5 Patriarchy is a theory made up by feminists without any proof.. A theory really needs proof.. A few comments do not prove patriarchy.. Feminists put the theory forward.. They should prove it exists..
"A system that of social structures and practices in which men dominate, oppress and exploit women"
"Men created society to benefit men at the expense of women."
Is this the patriarchy theory you adhere to??
Please do not ask me to educate myself as a lot of feminists do. (I do not know if you are one. Just a guess)
I would like to have an amicable discussion if you're up for it..
+teo5 Patriarchy do exists. Matter of fact patriarchy stole my toilet paper, now I cant leave the bath room.
plz help.
wows. wows. wows.
okay so a few examples:
- wage gap
- men v. women ratios in ANY government
- men v. women ratios of professors at ANY university
- men v. women ratios of managers at sample a sample of 10 companies chosen randomly by you of 100+ employees
- men v. women wages for sports
- men v. women wages for acting
- men v. women commenting on this
WAKE UP
you were born into this does not mean it's equitable, 'normal' , desired, fair
sadiq: prime example of patriarchy - you are telling a woman you don't know she has no right to enjoy the same privileges you (as a man) have and you think that somehow that is justified by a 'God'. You have a long way to go to escape your narrow worldview. Women won't be enslaved in the kitchens anymore. We were given equal rights, remember? Lastly, blocking me from this thread does not mean you are winning the argument. It just means you are afraid of discussing this. But go on, have a last word if you must.
Wow... Everything is not her fault! Her failed marriage is not (50%) her fault ... her lack of happiness while being employed at a top ranked university is not her fault... her "insubordinate" label while working there was not her responsibility. All the problems and bad feelings she talked about are patriarchy's fault. It's all their fault... not one single word about what she could do differently, except at the end she dispensed advice for nonviolent civil disobedience. That was a good start, but she dropped all of Ghandi's "Be The Change You Want To See In The World" - the personal responsibility part that enables nonviolent civil disobedience to become so powerfully effective at creating social change.
Speaking of being the change you want to see... here is a privileged American woman holding the hands of not one, but two maids her family is enjoying (exploiting) in her parent's home in India. Yes, it is exploitative because you wouldn't get away with those low wages and working conditions back home...
All I saw here was a privileged woman, with parents rich enough to enable her to escape India at eighteen, whining about her bad feelings and blaming it on patriarchy. She is still caught in little girl mode, blaming others for the bad feelings we happen to all feel when bad things happen... and remember she faces fewer problems because she is so privileged! Yes, life is hard... men and women both occasionally say or do bad things to you... and society has problems like gender bias, but what are YOU (Ananya Roy) going to take responsibility for? Because pointing fingers at "them" is easy to do. Based on Ananya's career she is probably in the upper top 3 to 5 percent wealth class in American society. Hence she has more potential to take on responsibility than most. Nobody with a victim mindset can ever empower others. What's so scary is that she is so entrenched in little girl mode (the ying of the patriarchy yang)... she can't even see it!
I just hope that this woman stops going public complaining about her bad feelings she's felt through her life journey because she is a TERRIBLE ROLE MODEL for my daughter and millions of other high potential young women out there.
Breath taking brilliance and heart breaking honesty. Professor Roy speaks truth about fundamentally unequal institutions and gendered relations of power. Her students, past-present-future, benefit immensely from this fearless scholar and formative mentor.
Rebecca Peters absolutely. I had the fortune of being in two of her courses in undergrad and every lecture was engaging , powerful and drew an amazing breadth of connection across theories and disciplines. Even ten years later I think about her lectures
She really didn't. She just gave surface level anecdotes and then chalked all her problems up to Patriarchy.
I can't believe I almost didn't watch this because of youtube comments. She is giving a brilliant lecture with an amazing insight. More people should watch this.
Thank You transformative educator
What she forgets to mention is that in India the household is a matriarchy where the alpha female rules supreme.
Heh?
Especially in the households of Bengal, the place where she comes from. Most probably, the man she married didn't match her expectations she developed watching Bengali households.
Is this real.... ? 'Cause it genuinely sounds like a parody of feminism...
That's how you draw attention. Really nice!! Many significant points made here.
Interesting talk. I’m interested in the origin of Patriarchy and whether it exists at all, what caused it - conscious or unconscious. This talk is based on the assumption of hierarchy but not its roots.
I think that’s because it’s been prominent throughout nearly all of history...much like one really can’t ask when people started breathing air, it just developed this way as women were subverted by men in the evolution of humanity, probably due to physical strength initially and then continuing into the social structure when it became less okay to just physically dominate someone
Absolute nonsense.
“stop complaining because someone out there has it worse” also means, instead of seeking help, stay in your unhealthy environmental because someone out there has it worse.
This popped up after I got into an argument about "female" pushups
Super talk. If possible, please go into "captioning" and clean up the google automatic captions so that it's accurate and accessible to everyone. THANK YOU!
A gold-mine of insights in this speech for anyone who wishes to know, learn and understand exactly what patriarchy means. One of the most misunderstood contexts of society, yet suffered by all! One of my first favorites in this speech is:"Patriarchy - a social system of male power exercised not only through domination but also through benevolence and protection even love".
Thank you Ananya Roy!
My sister. .. you are amazing. . So proud of you!
This is amazing.... She is super speaker :-) 👌
what she said about remaining vigilante is so true!! rights are literally being reversed in front of our very eyes!!!
An excellent treatise on patriarchy. Well done, Ms. Roy.
Female or male ....she is human and her life experiences shaped her opinion. Thank you for your story.
Uh. Yeah. Experiences shape opinions. Same for 7 billion other humans on earth. You must be a damn genius.
Everyone's life experiences shape their opinion.
A phenomenal woman and speech.
This is why feminists will always lose. It's just another crybaby throwing a temper tantrum.
thank u so much ma'am...4 such an encouraging video....
Thank you for giving voice to a pain that affects so very many women,me included.
you are powerful Ananya.
No, she is describing an entire system based on her personal experience. She is a fool.
Kanita Bari
George Vidal And gamma morons like you should grow a pair.
Excellent, thank you for speaking up!
Thank you Ananya Roy. I have been inspired by your research for years. My admiration for you has now transcended to a new level. Thank you for this talk, for sharing your story, and for the fearlessness of your scholarly work.
There is nothing scholarly about this. All of it is utter nonsense by an attention-seeking "victim"
@@padraigmurphy3540 if you are a man watching a video about patriarchy, you shouldn't be commenting
She has servants in India that she pays poverty wages. She comes from an ultra wealthy, top 1% family, in India. She doesn't fear anything. This a game to her.
3:47 Never bargain with patriarchy
These ambiguous platitudes don't mean anything.
So what do we call it when a woman cheats on her husband?
Empowerment you bigoted white male!
Jk😂😂😂
This was awesome
Awesomely convoluted.
So well spoken, truly inspiring. This helped me prepare for a sociology final. Thanks!
Patriarchy reigns supreme!
Rise up sons of the Holy Patriarchy, and crush underfoot any who oppose us! Let us return these troublesome dames back to the natural habitat, the kitchen! Kitchen a gift given to them for their happiness, now being spit upon. Such sacrilege!
We glorious men of the Holy Patriarchy will continue shaping the world in a new patriarchal way. Glory to Holy Patriarchy!
Ad victoriam, ex machina, non sibi sed patriae!
Haha I need this
One of the best teds I’ve ever listened … thanks maam
As I sat there in a hotel with my newspaper, ability to read, and iPhone, after a storm that probably had a huge impact on the poor population in the area, I realized that young women are attracted to rich men, and it is all men's fault. #firstworldproblems
The problem with these talks is that women assume that most guys are treated / paid equally based off the patriarchy.
They end up alienating a whole gender on issues that affect most people.
But at least Ananya gave guys a one sentence acknowledgement, It's rare to even get that.
Roy dreams in a big change that will create a different world with different gender relations but every place in the world has its own specificity. For example, such a change in my country, Yemen, would not be more that a top-down alteration developed on western standards and does not respect the culture nor the religion of the place, even if it is correct or necessary. We should learn from these regions that harmony comes before change and without putting this in mind, the world that Roy seeks, where people enter into relationships of love free of ownership and subordination will be no more than an alienation and destruction of a society that feeds from this harmony.
if we blame the decisions and actions of individuals and blame an artificial concept for it we know that society is going mad.
Thank You! Brought tears to my eyes. Transformative.
Elena G. Mine too: tears of laughter. So according to this narcissistic (and privileged) woman her husband's alleged cheating is a result of "the Patriarchy"? How about when women cheat on men? Is that "the Matriarchy"? And she mentions rape culture on campus: the US Department of Justice has debunked that myth. This speech was terrible on so many levels. Some people see "the Patriarchy" in their teacup.
It brought tears to the eyes of her servants in India while scrubbing floors. Wait no. That was the ammonia.
Dislikes are hope
go bears.
unforutnatley patriarchy is the underpinning belief system by which much of the christian church is run. and the abuse resulting from it is shameful. Jesus never meant for there to be a hierarchy in the church but that all believers serve one another and practive mutual submission. the only head of the church is christ nor fallible human being.
Amazing! Just what I needed to hear. I'm becoming educated.
*indoctrinated*
@@mallario6054 You have a right to your opinion, but I prefer mine.
8:58 There is no anti patriarchy app to install on your iPhones ~Ananya Roy
There's no Patriarchy app, either.
Keep kissing up to her mundane waxings. Maybe it will improve your career prospects. Everyone sees what you're doing.
Excellent Talk!!
For a Freshman, yes.
How desparete are you that you have to write P.H.D on your youtube username. Seriously?
I love the way that so many feminists seem to rebel against 'patriarchy' by appropriating it.
i came here to listen to "the other side of things"
nothing but emotional, subjective gibberish
what a joke
Some of the points she makes are fair. But personally, I think her accent kind of makes her sound entitled, though I suppose it might be interpreted differently by the audience given the geographic context (British Columbia, Canada). I think she should've given more specific examples of discrimination within the academia rather than talk about it so vaguely, it would've really strengthened her point (that is if the point was to convince the audience of the great need for change).
No one is obliged to give a s t a n d i n g o v a t i o n at the end of one's talk if they don't like it.
In this video, the m a l e a u d i e n c e s did give it to her.
Ask you nearest imam...
The man survived you for a decade, my goodness 🙏
At 8:20 - as a schoolteacher I would never close the door when in a room with a student alone - for my own legal protection. That went for male and female teachers, so the anecdote doesn't really make the point she thinks it makes. The fact she attributes the failure of her marriage to "patriarchy" rather than looking at herself and her ex-husband speaks for itself. I think we need to see the terms of the divorce agreement before we know whether patriarch or matriarch fits the bill better.
We have to appreciate that this one didnt disable comment like other feminist's video, even though she didnt even explain what the definition of patriarchy, how it come to exist, etc. All she does is to attack pseudo-problem she created herself. Men didnt meet in underground basement to create such worldwide system so-called patriarchy. She needs to stop being sexist. Learn to see a person as individual, not as a male/female.
Horrible.
Where some see a speech , I see a parody ..... Completely unitentional.
A Sacred Cow.
Lost the plot hasn't she
Is this a tedtalk or a knock off channel
This ladies time to make a difference, but she chose to spend it to get a "dig" in. Lets peace be on you
The beginning sound is the sound of feminist wolf hunting on the prey patriarchy.
TED IS DEAD
Adrian Ritch was a bad poet . Half the world men and women included dont even know she existed. And when you are born in Calcutta your favorite poet is not Rabindranath , why because he is a man. And aparentately your choice in opinions and ideologies is as bad as your choice in poets.
she is a scorned woman who got cheated on.... then it must be patriarchy... 😂😂😂
Sexist control freak triggered by equality. I'd like to see the patriarchy reversed specifically on men with strong sexist beliefs. Now that would be justice.
Why is she using a fake, bad British accent? Shes clearly not English. It sounds like zelda's God-awful Breath of the Wild voice acting
Maybe if she had acted like a traditional woman maybe her husband wouldn't have cheated on her. I bet the mistress was feminine.
Close the door on these kind of chicks and only settle down with women with traditional values. Leave feminists to their cats.
Maybe if men weren't killing each other all the time and would stop damaging the planet, technology would be 500+ years earlier.
Kirie Sakurame are the men you know out killing each other?
I talk about patriarchy all the time and am studying it for my doctorate. Whenever I mention patriarchy and its effect on our entire society globally, I get eye rolls from cisgender males and, unfortunately, confused looks from many female compatriots. We need to keep talking about it and dismantling it.
Feminism is not equality i think? So feminism should not exist? Do i think, or do i believe. Answer is that i believe.