New Stihl MS261C in 4K - why I didn't get the 500i
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- New pro grade chainsaw! Stihl MS261C. 4K video about the new saw and why I did not get the popular 500i fuel injected saw. #chainsawman #stihlchainsaw #MS261 #500i #purplecollarlife
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0:00 - Intro
0:29 - New MS261 in the case
0:50 - MS271 and MS290
1:14 - Flowering pear trees - freezing rain
1:50 - Ford Workmaster tractor seat
2:35 - Stihl fall chainsaw special
3:55 - Electric right-of-way
4:43 - Shagbark Hickory
5:25 - Marking the Oak log
5:48 - MS261C starting process
6:23 - First cut with the new saw
8:36 - 10 rounds later - MS261 wants to cut wood!
10:08 - Why I didn't get the MS 500i
12:28 - MS261C in action
15:18 - Volleyball banquet chainsaw talk
16:48 - Professional grade chainsaw
17:36 - That Oak is HEAVY!
18:17 - Ethanol free gasoline
I own both saws. They are very different saws. I like both. I bought the 261 because it is relatively light and cuts well for a 50 cc saw. I like it for tree diameters less than 14 inches and limbing. I have a 20-inch bar and I am out west cutting softwood. My 550i is for large diameter trees and it has a 32-inch bar. It weighs 5 to 6 lbs. more than the 261. I use it for cutting large trees and that is why I bought it. It is very very fast. So, I don't understand why you own three saws that are approximately the same size. The cost difference between the 500i and the 261 doesn't make sense given that you own three saws of similar size.
EXACTLY. The 261 and 362 are AMAZING saws I own BOTH bought them NEW I also have a MS 180 that I put a regular 050 chain on and it cuts AWSOME Now. No modifications needed just a bar swap and chain. And then I have a WCS upgraded 462. There is NO comparison at ALL from a 50cc and even a 60cc saw to a 72cc saw. I cut up over a cord of standing dead ash trees last weekend and I started with the big stuff with the 462. After I finished with the larger stuff 18 22 inch stuff I went to the 261 for the smaller stuff. And it felt like a TOY. It was soooo Different it felt like a saw you buy at wall mart or something. I LOVE LOVE LOVE my 261. IT is amazing for what it is. But you cant compare it to a 70cc saw that costs 1000+. The 362 is kinda eh.. I like it but for larger stuff its 70cc...... 60cc saws are kinda meh... smaller stuff 10lb 261.... larger 70cc... IDK..
I have the 500i and it's a beast. Thought about getting a 261 because the 500i kicks my butt cutting 12 hours a day.
He is not the sharpest tool in the shed
Do you have a 461 or 661? I had a 500i and did not believe it's torque is in line with a saw that would pull the longer bars. Just curious if you like it better than the bigger 661 (it's definitely faster until it's in big wood I don't disagree with that).
@mikeaustin1788 500i is a really fast saw but high rpm will rip thru stuff 6" to 20" really good but when you lay into a huge piece the bigger saws are straight torque monsters that won't stop and the 500i won't keep up when sinking the bar.
I love my MS261C. Ran Husqvarna 55 and 455 before that. Your comments on the 261 vs farm and ranch saws are spot on with my observations. Definitely worth the money. Yes it wants to cut. I just hold the saw firmly and let the saw do the work. No pushing, just controlled rock back and forth. It cuts a lot on a tank of gas too. My Dad says it “throws more wood chips per drop of gas” than the farm and ranch saws. I run an 18” bar as I just use the saw for property maintenance and personal firewood production. I rarely cut trees larger than 16” diameter. It’s nice knowing I could put a 20” bar on the 261 if I needed it for larger trees. I have no doubt it would handle it fine, but the 18” seems ideal with the power.
Thanks!
In Western Australia today ,if I wanted to buy the 500i it would cost. $2,449 🤯 .
The Ms 261c $1,600 dollars .
I had a bit of luck yesterday - due to the shire / council,s / switching over to battery powered machines . I picked up a ms 261c from a local auction For only $276 dollars with a new bar and chin fitted 🤯.. I’m still smiling 🎉. But overall - in Australia we get screwed on the price of all small engine machines . The Australian government’s for decades have Sucked .
Thanks for your vid 👣🦘👍.
You found a great deal! I hope you like the 261C as much as I like mine. It's so fast! I'm thrilled with it.
I can't believe those prices in Australia! I had no idea.
@@PurpleCollarLife Yep we get screwed / scammed . The old tourist bullshit about Australia being the lucky country is a load of crap . I don’t know where all this wealth is , I keep hearing about in Australia … From this end I can tell you it’s a lie.
Thanks for taking the time to reply . 👣🦘👍
@@peachsncream5808hello here from germany. In the last years they get so expensive. I pay for many years ago 985 Euro for new 361 VW. Prices rise up 50 % last years. I am lucky that i bought all my stuff right time.
@@andik859 crazy times we live in ,that’s for sure. Take care of yourself brother.👍
you have to be kidding :D i want to buy a 261 now and here in slovakia it costs from 800 to 900 euros :D
I own both the 261 & 500i. I bought the 500i first and the 261 a year after. The 500i is fast for cutting up wood. When you get use to it and go back to the 261 it seem slow and you’r bent over in the same place forever. For most home owners the 261 is the perfect saw. The 400 is a good in-between saw also. I use both saws depending on the size of wood I’m cutting.
Good to know!
@@PurpleCollarLife I got the same saw and I absolutely love it! I’ve had mine for a little over five years now and it has never let me down! I got an 18 inch bar on mine can I ask you how much you paid for yours back when I got mine it was 600 bucks!
Robert. Yes. Your comment about a 400 in between saw - is dead on. I run a 260, 362 and a 500. ( other saws too around the farm ). But when I get to firewood these are my three.
In a Perfect world ? A 261, 400 and 500 is my dream team. Love the 362 which is my go to I notice but for half a pound the 400 would add another HP. But the 362 is a screamer with a 20 inch Light bar for limping and bucking small to medium logs. The 500 with a 25 Light eats up anything and then the 260 Pro handles all the small jobs. So upgrade to a 261 from the 260 for me; then the change the 362 for a 400 !! You dead on.
I have 260, 261, 361, 362 and Husk 272 XPG.. 261 is my go-to. It paid for itself over and over since I got it in 2011. I work in forestry.
Thanks for watching! The 261 is certainly an impressive saw.
I have a 1985 028 Wood Boss and a 361 VW with handle heating. Nice for Winter. I love booth.
And what about the 362? How it performs?
Read 400 superior to 362
Great video, I too purchased a MS261C about a month ago, I have outfitted it with a 20 inch bar. I’m not a professional logger, just a private land owner of around 20 acres. I have an older MS250 with 18 inch bar and it does OK but she’s getting tired and wanted something with a little more power and capability, preferably using 20 inch bar and I believe the MS261C fits the bill perfect for my needs. I too would highly recommend this saw!
I’ve been running the 261C for a few years now, love the saw my go to in most cases. But here lately I got a Husky 572XP as a gift with a 28” bar. I’ve got to admit I am impressed with it’s power to weigh and getting into the long bar for bucking. Like BBR says stand up and buck. I do still love my Stihl saws but that XP is impressive
I was just about to comment about standing up and bucking. It's a game changer and I'll never go back to using a small bar. I've got a 25" bar on my Stihl 340 and it works like a dream.
Nothing runs like a Husky! 👍
love my 261c! 572xp is how many cc? bigger than the 261, @ 4.1hp and 13lbs? does power 2 weight compare with the 572xp? hmm..
But who wants to pay over $1k for it? For a farm saw and that?
@@Corey-dy2cq yeah Corey Man! Exactly, unless one has the money to ‘burn?’
The MS261 is a fine saw for cutting firewood . If you are not cutting 20+ in. wood every week, you don't need a 500, unless you just have money to blow.
Thanks!
Its a big upgrade moving from farmer to a pro saw, in a few years a 60,67 or a 70, 72cc saw is probably going to be a fantastic experience. The speed you cut those 16-20 inch logs is just amazing.
I agree - the difference is night and day. Thanks for watching!
Should only improve after about 6-7 tanks of fuel?
If you are just cutting a little bit as branches fall or for an occasional camping trip the home owner saws and ranch saws are fine. Homesteaders, ranchers, and home owners that burn for heat definitely benefit from a pro saw. They are absolutely worth the extra investment
I agree. Thanks for watching!
I too have replaced my MS271 with the MS261 for similar reasons. Besides power and weight, the MS261 is a lot easier to start with the decompression valve.
I love the Ford tractor. By the way, Amazon sells a waterproof seat cover by "Powerworks" for about $20. I've been using these on both my tractors for years; they have held up really well, help to protect the seat, and prevent mice intrusion. They even have pockets on the back.
I’m going to have to look into that seat cover! Thanks for the info.
The 261 is my favorite saw.
I pair it with a little 170 and all my needs are met.
Nice saw! Back in 93, I bought a stihl O64av, putting out 85cc. It set me back about $835 bucks back then. The 500i comes in a little lighter. My guess is performance wise, close to the same. Add in 30 years of inflation between the two saws, and you're at the $1600 mark. Thanks for sharing!
Very interesting! I didn’t know the 064 was so much in 1993. You’re right about the inflation since then putting the 500i at about that same money (in today’s equivalent). What’s interesting is that about 2 years ago, the 500i was several hundred dollars cheaper! I should have been looking at them back then. I imagine the 261C was also around $100 less in 2020 than it is now.
@imfree62 I did break down and buy a 500i, love it! I upgraded the airfilter with Jason, (I can't think of the last name) put a light bar on it, and put the 500i bar on my O64AV.
I’ve had my Stihl 261-cm for 10 years….. an awesome saw 🇬🇧
It's SO FAST! I really like how quickly it cuts through the wood. And it's very light weight - so I can tell a huge difference in handling. Thank you for watching and leaving a comment!
I have a 261 and a 462. I really like the 261 and will generally reach for it because it's so light and handy. I'm not an arborist although I do occasionally fall trees. I make wooden bowls and use my saws mostly to cut up logs and prepare them for turning. One of the things I frequently have to do which arborists almost never do, is make rip cuts to cut the pith out of the blanks. This involves making two rip cuts just on either side of the pith. About the only area that the 261 falls down in is in making these cuts. Rip cuts produce long stringy shavings rather than smaller chips typical in a cross cut, and the 261 can't seem to deal with those. The chip exhaust quickly becomes clogged and I frequently have to stop to clear it out by hand. My 462 just blows them right out the back and happily keeps cutting.
You will love the 261. It is for sure my go-to saw. Cheers!
Thanks, Gord!
Because logs are heavy, I usually use the tractor to haul the tree full length or in sections up to the wood pile and then cut it. Or drag it to an open area where I can stack it on a pallet, then use the forks to move it. This way I move logs less often.
I bought the same saw this week. Just processed a 12" spruce that had fallen over the winter, quite the upgrade from my MS170. I don't think I would have bought a new saw if I already had 2 farm saws. The VP of finance would have said no.
It’s definitely nice when you can move the log to a better place to cut and not need to carry it out of the woods like I did here. The MS261 is certainly an upgrade from the 2 farm saws I had. Thankfully the VP of Finance here understands that I need to have good equipment to make content for the channel. :) AND - I was able to get a good amount out of my MS271 Farm Boss by selling it on the FB marketplace. So the upgrade wasn’t as painful to the wallet as I had originally thought.
Thanks for watching! Enjoy that new saw.
261 is a great saw. Lots of power for average size logs. 271 at times struggles a bit and 290 as well, I have owned them all but agree that the pro saws have that little bit extra grunt. Good vid 👌
Totally agree. Thanks for watching!
The 261C is a fine 50cc pro saw for smaller stuff and limbing especially if time is NOT money. The 500i shines when looking for a saw with authority.....like when felling leaners using bore cuts where speed and power equals safety. Most home owners and recreational cutters should not be messing with those trees anyway. The 500i also makes short work bucking bigger stuff. Both saws together make a very nice combo. Be safe.
So you're saying I should have both . . . . Jennifer - I need to get another new saw! :)
I'm just a chainsaw nerd, I started out with a MS310 and it's still going strong. I also have a 261, 362 full wrap, 462, and a 500I just because. If I could only keep 2 saws it would be the 261 and the 462. The 462 is a beast and I find myself grabbing the 261 more than any of them, love that saw. Whenever someone ask me whats a good saw for general firewood cutting I always steer them towards the 261. The 500I is a great saw if your cutting big wood for a living, but if you want a bigger saw for firewood it's hard to beat the 462, It just flat out rips.
This is great information! I haven't ever cut with the 500i or the 462. But I too am addicted to the powerhead-driven wood-cutting chain machines. :) I keep telling other people I know who have had lots of homeowner grade saws - the 261 is worth every extra penny. Thanks for watching and leaving the comment!
@@PurpleCollarLife My Sthil dealer says I'm the best salesman he has for the 261, LOL. The homeowner saws are ok for general firewooding, just keep them cleaned and maintained. My old 310 has cut a lot of wood and still looks good. But if your going to be cutting a fair amount you just can't beat the power to weight ratio of the pro series saws.
I have a 026, 261, 441 and 462. Love the 261 and 462 combo. The 261 is a great limbing saw and the 462 takes care of all the rest. Both are absolutely great saws, totally agree with you, except my 462 is my go to for everything.
I’m an arborist and my 50cc tree saw is the 261. Why…it’s weight and almost 4 HP. For big wood my 572 is awesome.
The 261 is the most impressive saw I've had the opportunity to run! It's so fast!
First time viewer and now subscriber here.
After Gord from GP Outdoors got a new ms462 I was eye balling that. After reviewing the specs and comparing it to the 261 it was a no brainer for me. Half the cost and about 3lbs lighter. The 261 is plenty powerful enough for my needs especially with the 20” bar.
If you watch Chickanic you know she despises canned fuel.
I sent my ms 290 to Iowa Performance Saws. He exchanged the head to a 390 size head and piston. Definitely worth the upgrade. Also upgraded to a 3/8 sprocket.
Thanks for the info! I'm curious - about what does an upgrade like that cost?
The 261 is a great saw, we recently got one at work and it's my favorite saw along with the 500i. We all fight over who gets to use it lol, so light and the engine runs so much smoother than a 271. nice pick
I agree - the 261 is a much better performing saw than the 271.
When it is broken in, and a sharp chain it will give you a smile. Running a Hq 550 mk2 with a opened can. Crazy fun it this size wood.
It's certainly amazing! The saw does make me smile. Who knew I was such a simple guy. :)
runs good and thanks for sharing this too but i already have a 261 18 inch bar just thinking to go with a battery saw for my dad that way i don't have to be there to pull start it for him since for us we trim trees about 2 times a year and only cut about 4 hours total and just cant justify the cost on the 500i even though i loved it and the 261 i have a skid steer to take out most trees and a Pruner to do the others lol. Only stihl product i have not been happy with was the Dirt boss RB400 the kohler engine failed after 3 years and i could not get my dealer to throw in something after buying a half mil piece of farm equipment lol
Thanks for watching! The 261 is a very impressive saw. Good thoughts on the advantage of a battery-powered saw that doesn’t need to be pull started.
cutting 60+ cord a year, running mainly a ms271 ,3/8,050,20" and a ms391 3/8/o5o/25" and love both . also have a ms251 , 3/8,050,18",.ms261c 3/8,050,20"and a second ms271,3/8,050,18",. buddy is running ms460 3/8,050,28" and cuts more then i do ,together we have over a dozen saws, the biggest is the husky 2200 3/8,050,48" and the stihl 056 with a yet to be determined bar. when i got the husky it wasnt running , well I sprayed gas into carb, fired right up , upon closer inspection it was running with 2 cylinder bolts missing and the other 2 were loose , a carb kit and now it starts on 3 pulls and sounds like a harley compared to the new saws
Wow - 60 cords a year! I can't even imagine that much cutting. It's no wonder you have such a collection of saws of different sizes. Keep up the great work!
I really like my 261 and 461 Stihl saws. I'm sure you'll get years of use from your 261c,
I have 462 25inch bar and 261 18inch bar. Great saws but both lack torque muffler mod on both this saws is a must. For felling bigger trees and lots off bucking i use 462 it is a beast. 261 for limbing and working on trees up to 20inch diameter is great. saw.
Thanks for the info!
Bought the same two days ago after selling my Stihl 270. If you spent nearly $800 on new saw, go spend the $20-40 to replace the tractor seat.
Replace the tractor seat? Then it wouldn't be original. :) I guess I prioritize my spending without basic wisdom sometimes. :)
Also got the 261c last year after some research and knowing what I was going to be cutting…very similar situation as yours. If you consider the self adjusting carb, power head weight, power, build quality….sorry, it’s a no brainer. One muffler mod and full chisel chain later on the 18” bar…it makes this stuff a lot of fun.
I was out cutting with it yesterday and it still amazes me the power-to-weight ratio. And it slices through wood like butter!
I have 261c and many other saws, it and 462c are my go to saws
Thanks!
Congrats Chad. That looks like an awesome saw. Cuts those logs like "butta". BTW, I can totally relate about the social introvert thing. My wife is a social butterfly, and if we go to a party filled with her coworkers, she flits off to chat with everyone and I get left making small talk with folks I barely know...NOT my favorite thing. What luck finding a "chainsaw guy"!
Sounds like you need to have a talk with the wife.
Congratulations on your purchase! I own the 261, as well as the 462 and the 500i. I don't think ANY kind of a fair comparison can be made between the 261 and the 500. You're talking about two different animals completely, and 30cc's difference. That's an apples to oranges comparison. I could have seen if you were thinking "should I go with the 261, or the 362, or 400"? Then you'd have just been comparing between a 50 and a 60, or 65cc saw. But comparing a 50cc saw to an 80cc saw just doesn't equate.
I LOVE my 261, and I think you will too. It's a great saw, especially for limbing, and carrying around for an extended period of time. Do yourself a favor though. We're getting into late Fall and Winter now, take your saw cover off, and check to see if your slide (on the right-hand side) under the cover is flipped to "Winter-mode". If you're not familiar with what I'm talking about, read your owner's manual. Adjusting that slide from Summer to Winter mode affects your carburetor, and shouldn't be forgotten.
Good video, thanks!
Excellent comment and right on point and mentioning the carb shuttle piece/ cover, whatever the heck it is called. VERY Important, and I’m hoping the Dealer took care of this? They usually have a depiction of Sun and Snow for the respective seasons. Easy to remember as One wants the heat blocked off in the Summer, opened up in the Winter. I think I said that right? 🤔😆
@@georgedavall9449 Correct. I wouldn't count on a dealer for anything like that, and it's VERY simple to check/change yourself. Just pull the top cover off, and use a flat-headed screwdriver to pull the slide out yourself (if you can't just get it out with a fingernail) and either verify that it's in the correct position for the time of year, of flip it around and reinsert it if it's not already set correctly.
@@JeffGeorgalas Well Jeff, you may just have a point there! Hard to count on anything in this day and age! 😯🙄 Thanks for reply and good comments!
I bought a little ms250 for my small firewood saw for the same reasons you bought the 261. Id of rather had the 261,but couldnt quite affird it at the time. I cut alot of oak,even 24" stuff with it all the time and its been great. When i cut bigger wood i start my top cut and rock the saw back over the back side of the log until i cut through the largest diameter of the middle of the log and then rotate the saw back around to my side and finish the cut. Ive got an old ms441c that wears a 28" bar that i used for my bigger firewood, but its been broke down. I hate working on it because its overengineered and very difficult
I considered the 250 for a smaller saw. But my goal with the 261C was to get a light-weight saw that cuts better than my 271 and 290. It fits the bill for me for the wood that I mostly cut. If I get to something bigger, I might find myself with a 2nd saw that is bigger some day.
@imfree62 I'd love to have a 440,but people ask new saw prices for them. I'm watchin the local pawn shops and face book to tryin come up with another big firewood saw.
Honestly I bought a 462c for my last saw I’d buy in a while , any bar you put on it it drives it ! Yours is a perfect choice for 20”and smaller !
Good planning!
My 660 Stihl is my go to saw. I cut all of my firewood by myself and I need to cut as fast as possible. It never bogs down. I also have my 290 as a back up but honestly I get more tired with that because it takes a lot longer and I have to move down with my body with the saw. The 660 I just stand there and it goes through the wood like butter instantly. Plus you can have a longer bar as well.
Try filling the hole in the seat with a little spray foam. Remove excess as it expands wipe off wet spray foam that gets on seat remove with acetone while still wet.
Thanks!
Nice operation you have going here! Love the Ford, I have a few of the old British built Fordsons in my fleet.😅
I too like the 261, I just recently picked one up. I’ve had both the 026 and the 260 in the past. The 500i is definitely a great saw, they’re just not for everyone. I personally wouldn’t be able to justify the expense. I even passed up a decent deal on a used one, but that was still $1k. I don’t sell firewood and I do all of my own maintenance and service, so brand new isn’t that big of a need for me.
Bless’ns to You and Yours for a Happy Thanksgiving, Tedd
Happy Thanksgiving! Thank you for watching. I've seen some 026 saws that are amazing cutters to this day. You're right about the 500i. I believe its a great saw - the fuel injection is a really cool feature in a chainsaw. But like you, I can't justify the expense right now. The 261C will work great for 90% of my cutting. Enjoy the day!
Yup, the MS261 is the one saw for firewood. It is now 12 years old with 16" and 20" bars. We also have a MS170 as a spare and Husky 338XPT top handle for a tree saw.
Tip: use the tractor to drag log timber rather than picking up butts walked to the trailer. Many mouse traps will help. Bill coming. Good job.
so as an ex stihl dealer employee there are only 2 classifications of saws pro and homeowner. the pro saws if you really use a saw aka firewood or felling trees is the only option. the 261 is a great saw i personally prefer the 550xp v2 but i have ran them both extensively. in your situation i would sell the 271 and 290 and use those funds to get a 400c with a 24" bar at a discount. the larger engine class makes cutting rounds easy and the amount of work it saves you is worth every penny. my main saw is an 046 that i run with a 28" bar so bending over is a thing of the past and weight doesnt really matter considering its going to be buried in a log 90% of the time. i think getting a larger saw as your grunt work and the 261 as your small wood/ clean up saw is the perfect combo.
Thanks for your expertise! I can't say that I can argue with the idea of getting a 400C. :)
@@PurpleCollarLife its a great saw light and has the power that the 362 should have. the 362 is kind of a let down talked many people out of one opting for the 462 which is another great saw. the 500i is honestly only good in large wood which seeing as how we are both in pa we know its few and far between. the 400 and 462 just run better as all around saws unless you get the 500 ported and put a pipe on it. i think you made a good call but your back is gonna hate you unless you get a bigger saw with a longer bar to keep you upright. take it from someone who cuts and splits about 20 cord a year eventually its gonna catch up with you.
@@crxlsvtecboosted I might look into the 400 in the future.
@@PurpleCollarLife you wont regret it i promise 😁
@imfree62 i loved my 462cm great saw just dont grind the rakers down too far and she has the ass to pull a 32", with a semi skip square it will pull a 36" as well. ive really been digging the e carbs but i like to tinker the 440 was a nice saw i own its older brother the 044 with 10mm crank bearings and its mean. my 661 is probably the saw i like the most but man i cannot get over the 550xp v2 from husky they did such a good job with the low end on that saw. open the exhaust up and its an amazing firewood saw. i actually tried it with a 3/8th full size chain and hand filed the square ground down so the chip was thinner and man does it pull. the newer saws just need to be in their rpm range and they do just as well as the old ones.
I’d say if you’re thinking about buying a 500i but other options include the 261 then you don’t need a 500i. The 261 is made for medium work but the 500i is made to handle huge trees like Douglas fir.
Saying you need to buy a new saw because you have to cut firewood and your choosing between the 261 and 500i is like saying you need a new gun to hunt foxes and you’re choosing between a 308 and a 50bmg
If a 261 is good enough to get the job done then a 500i is overkill.
:) Loved the hunting analogy.
I want to comment on your tractor, I love a good JD but this one was old school fun! I would fab up a weight bracket for the front end in addition to the wheel weights. I have played around with buying a gas chainsaw but for my needs a good battery powered has taken down up to 15” maples so to not need fuel mixing was the reason.
😊Thanks for sharing 😊
Thanks for watching!
I have 261 cm m tronic it's a great saw bought it 1 and a half years ago no complaints
Thanks!
When buyin a chainsaw. Pay the money will save you money in time'
Very true. I have owned some cheap saws in the past. Just like trimmers - the lower end ones end up costing you a lot of time and frustration.
Man I can’t lie the 500i is a animal. My neighbor has one with bark box and that thing is a ripper McGoo. That will probably be my next saw i buy new. it is a expensive saw compared to the 261 u ain’t lying there. . As long as you are happy and comfortable that’s all that matters. I got a used 460 from Facebook early last winter and love it. It’s been my go too here lately We do the ethanol free from the pump here. Very happy the wife let u get a new toy brother, well deserved. Hope u have a blessed week. 😊
The 500i certainly looks like a powerful machine. If money were no object, I’d get one just to have it. But I’m afraid that I’d not actually need it very often unless I start doing some sawmill work or getting some log trucks of timber delivered. The 261C is definitely a step up from the home/ranch saws I’ve owned. Thanks for watching!
You need a trailer for tractor. I have a 028 Wood Boss from 1985 and a 361 VW with handle heating. Booth fine saws. For cutting firewood you don't need such big saws. You need 3 PS for 30cm blade and 5 PS for 50 cm blade and you can cut down all trees. When you get older like me you love the smaller saws, your back say thank you.
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nicely made video...enjoy your sthil
Thanks, will do!
What more could I possibly say, STIHL RUNS THE YARD. 😊👍🏿 #stihlpower #stihlisyourdaddy #stihlrunstheyard
Stihl definitely runs my yard! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. The new 261 is amazing.
@@PurpleCollarLife Yes sir 😊👍🏿 #stihlpower #stihlisyourdaddy #stihlrunstheyard
i bought the 261c because it's the #1 recommended general use saw by arborists. also the cheapest pro saw by stihl.
I'm amazed by it.
@@PurpleCollarLife I'll try the light04 bar or the pro light P04 bar and chain next. great saw, I'm happy!!
The ms261c is my favorite saw. You are going to love it. Good choice! Everyone should have a 261. God willing, there will be time for a 500i. Carpe Diem!
I've run a MS261C for a number of years now with great success.
But the old output shaft issue is starting to show now.
Mine now cuts out when the chainbrake is applied.
Soft metal on the output shaft throws the clutch drum out of line!
Stihl were aware of this in 2015!
Best of luck with yours.👍
Thanks for sharing! I didn't know anything about the issue. Do you think it's still currently an issue in the saws sold today? Any idea how many hours are on your 261C? It would be nice if these saws had hour meters. :)
Look into the Stihl 400c absolutely an amazing saw pound for pound.
Look into the 72cc FarmMac F380W. Beast of a saw dollar for dollar. Sure I like my 261c and Rancher 450 but every now and then one needs a saw that’ll pull a 25” Bar like an old 044.
Just a thought, the Echo CS 590 is an awesome mid size saw that don't break the bank. The 261 is a killer saw also but after you cut with the 500i it's hard to go back to other saws, like so many others I own a handful myself.
Thanks for watching! I've not ruled the 500i out forever. I still am impressed with the videos I've seen of it at work.
Regardless of the model saw chosen you want to buy the lightest one that best matches the material you cut. My rule of thumb on all equipment is to figure out what does the job and buy the next model up. I personally would have considered the MS 361 for the hardwood cutting you describe. I run a 044 and 260 - good saws but the MS 361 could replace both. One thing I do with all saws is put a Cannon bar on them - Cannon bars don’t flex and rob power - they also last.
I will also say the Stihl 2 in 1 chain sharpener is amazing and worth every penny.
Thanks! I'll have to look up those Cannon bars. I've never heard of that brand.
I bought a 500i last winter. It cut like crazy, but it would not start again once warm. Pull, pull, pull, nada. I sold it after 4 tanks of gas.
Rather than go back to the dealer you just sold it? Sounds like a sound decision, lmao🤣👍
I had work to do. There isn't a decent dealer within a hundred miles. Should I have screwed around with dealers who are incompetent instead of making money? You must be a real pro. @@ciphercode2298
Years ago after a big ice storm I bought an 023 because the 026(now 261) was too much. I recently saw the deal they are running and I think I am going to do it although the 023 still works after several chains a couple of bars and 1 oil pump.
I liked my 023, great little saw.
I've got an 025 and 026 and like them both, thinking about more power next?@@bradmonrean2307
I have the same thoughts. In my case here in Sweden it's rare with wider than 20-24 inch trees in the forests but mostly they're around 16-18" when harvested. On the other hand, the leaf trees here can be rather big too like elms and oaks. With that said, since I'm mostly in the forest felling, cutting and limbing spruce my range goes from MS201, MS241 and MS251. Would defininitely go for a MS261 in case of getting one more. MS201 with 14" is great for small limbs and in thinning, MS241 with 14" for felling and limbing a little bit bigger. I use the 251 with 18" for felling of the biggest trees as it is right now. I also have a philosophy of not carry more weight than necessary.
Thanks for watching!
The MS290 is 2004 tech but that’s not to put it down. In its day it was a great saw and the entire range of spares is widely available. A 56cc saw at 5.9kg, 2.8kW, it’s still a desirable saw for the money. Now superseded by the MS270/271, which is a reduced 50.2cc, with less vibs., and greater fuel efficiency. At 5.6kg but alas down on power at 2.6kW. I suppose you get what you pay for.
The MS260 was a legend and good running old ones are sort after. One of the last non chipped saws, so easy to fix and repair. But its replacement, the MS261 is in another league; though it’s a a chipped saw, so repair ranges from a screwdriver & Allen key to hooking it up to a dealers’ software. Lightweight yet powerful, it could run a 20” at a push but comes alive on 18”. Fuel efficient, less vibs., less emissions, less noise and reliable. What’s not to like. Like the 260, the 261 is a true all day saw.
The MS500i is a different beast. A 2019 saw with less emissions for its size; 79.2cc, 6.1kg and 5kW. Will live on a 25” and handle a 28” maybe even a 32”. And is a live wire on 18”-20. But unless you’re Popeye or are cutting big stems for a living, it’s not an all day saw. Too much for firewood but great for bigger stuff, with less vibs. and excellent pick-up on the revs. It’s only downsides, are that it voraciously drinks fuel and eats clutch bearings.
Excellent overview of the saws!
There is no comparison to running a saw bigger then 70cc
It speeds up cutting exponentially
I own both of these saws, the 261 is nice for small stuff..
The 500i absolutely rips! really helps firewood get done
Thanks! So you're saying I need to tell Jennifer that I need another saw. :)
@@PurpleCollarLife I bought mine during covid before a lot of the price increases, so I got a good deal!
You won't regret the purchase, It hard on the wallet at the time but after a few hours on it you'll be very happy you spent the money
Beautiful red oak. I have an Ms251, and am wanting to get a 400c as my next, "bigger" saw. Looking to run a 24in bar. We have 16acres of oak, hickory, and cherry and I'm starting to need a bigger saw.
Sounds like you live in an area with lots of great future firewood! We typically don't cut any trees down. We just cut up the blowdowns or storm damage trees. Like you - we have lots of Cherry - but then some Oak (not a lot) and Hickory, and Maple. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
Very nice saw! Stihl definitely makes great chain saws. 👍👍 Have you ever thought about getting some forestry tongs to help carry the rounds? It might make them easier to carry. Great job, Chad. Thanks for sharing!
I have no complaints about any of my Stihl equipment - it’s all been good stuff. Forestry tongs might be a good idea! Those rounds keep feeling heavier and heavier. :)
261 us very popular in Europe where we don’t have trees the size of a house like in US. Most cutting can be done either with 550xp,560xp or 261, 362. Only time I needed larger than 60cc saw was when I had a tree with a diameter 80cm, 291 did this. I guess some guys here buy a larger saw to impress the neighbors wife or to play a weekend warrior.
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I recently bought a used Ms 261c I’m gonna enjoy it !
You'll love it!
@@PurpleCollarLife I’m enjoying it already ! Thank you 😊
I love my ms261 !!!
Me too. It's a great saw.
500i allows me to run 25" bar through hard wood with my back straight .. Cutting small stuff on the ground legs apart with perfect clearance is easier .. Also dealing with carburettors in cars years ago was a challenge .. Hope it helps ..
Flowering pears are problematic since the branches grow more upward compared to other trees causing the branches to break off easier compared to other trees. 45 degree angle. I just added the MS 171 to my collection. I have an old Homelite with a 14 inch bar and after a dozen or so years of abuse, it is ready for retirement. I also have the Husq 455 (18") and the Sthil 036 (20") for the big stuff. Why do I get the feeling that the sawmill will be delivered very soon????
I own both saws. Apples to oranges my man. 261 for bars 20" and under.
Thanks for watching!
Lot of great comments up in here…
Congrats on that new saw, and LOVE that old Ford tractor! 😊
I couldn’t help but think, wow @ that ‘poor’ New Saw and chain, getting ‘broke’ in real fast? 😯 I am guessing you took it easy on it off camera. Although my local Stihl dealer said to run my new saw “like I stole it!”
Would be interested to see what that Dealer had to say about Ethanol free gas You alluded to? Stay safe out there! 👍
Thanks for watching! It’s a great saw. The dealer said go ahead and run it once it was warmed up. So we gave it a go. :) It still runs great.
The dealer said he’d rather I use regular gas (not ethanol free) and use it up in a week, than store ethanol free gas for months at a time.
@@PurpleCollarLife You’re Welcome and thanks for reply! Well Your Dealer has a good point on the gas, IF If You were to use it up right away. I was taking to a landscape guy at the gas station recently, and he said he went through the gas so much and so fast, he used straight pump gas to mix up.
Personally, I’m either using pre mix in my newer saws, or E free Premium pump gas to mix in my older saws. I try to not mix up more than I need at one time, and I mix it at around 40/45:1. This is a hot topic, and open to much debate. I recently pulled the muffler off my 20+ year old Husky 345, and the piston looked clean, and I could even see the honing marks from the factory!
An old timer Dealer I know told me a long time ago, to use high test gas when mixing two stroke. He had just attended a ‘Fuel School’ seminar at Stihl. Octane numbers go down over time. I use Seafoam or StaBil in my Gas that I store for my portable Genny and my other equipment, and rotate it out, and have no problems. Of course, to each their own, and YMMV! Stay safe!
Could always use peppermint spray. That usually deters them .
Interesting!
Great purchase you should love it. I decided on a 261c I can’t even remember how many years ago it was the first version because the year later they came out with the version two where the side cover design was changed a little bit and I’ve loved the purchase ever since have no complaints whatsoever it’s my go to saw it’s the first one I grab all the time and it always fires right up does the job and then I put it away I bet I’ve cut over 20cord a year with it since purchase maybe more.
And my reasoning on purchasing it instead of the wood boss or the farm boss is to be honest those are homeowner saws and heavier even being all plastic and even though if properly taken care of they can still last long time they’re just not built as solid as the pro saws with the magnesium cases and better parts so I figured I’d go with the saying that I try to live by which is buy once cry once lol and I have zero regrets for paying More for the pro saw.
I also have the 462C and I did end up getting the 500i because as soon as it was available in the United States I was at my dealer begging them to call me as soon as they had one in so I could purchase the first one haha i was just fascinated to try the first fuel injected chainsaw and it does not disappoint it’s a awesome saw and I don’t regret purchasing it either but I take that with me when I’m going to cut wood for stuff bigger then the 20” bar on my 261c as it came with a 28” light bar. But I would say in a given day that I’m out cutting trees up I am using the 261C 90% of the time and only grab the 500i when it’s a tree that starts getting too big I love both of them.😂
Thanks for sharing your experience. I am amazed at the difference between the 261 and the 271. The 500i seems like an amazing fuel-injected saw. It's great technology and looks like it really rips through the wood in the videos I've seen. But that price tag - yikes! I am glad I went with the 261 as my "everyday" chainsaw. :) Maybe someday in the future Stihl will sponsor our little channel and send me a 500i.
As several other commenters have mentioned, get a longer bar! Your form for cutting is asking for a kickback in the face. You are bent over the saw and you are cutting with the tip hitting logs on the other side is the perfect recipe for kickback. Put a longer bar on the saw, use the tip when your down in the cut and don't have your face in line with the cut. Everybody thinks it wont happen to me, but you looked like the poster child for it. Stand up and buck (longer bar)
I have both here in France. I like both very much. However, it is very difficult to compare the two as they are in different classes in both size (cc) Kw and the work they are designed for. For me on the bigger stuff there is nothing to touch the MS500i. The MS261C is great for the smaller trees and firewood.
It is so amazing that people from around the world can see our videos of our little homestead here in the hills of Pennsylvania, USA. Thank you for letting us know where you're from. It's humbling for sure.
I'm impressed with the 261 so far - and can only imagine how powerful that 500i is. I'm curious what you use as a size breakover when you switch from the 261 to the 500i as far as cutting up rounds. Is it like 20" and bigger for the 500i?
Hi. I generally take both with me when I go to our forest. (I do have a Husqvarna 455 which again is a nice saw to use along with a Stihl top handle saw.) I use both for cutting Oak which is our main species, we don't have much else. I use the 500i for felling and bucking. The power is a stark change and uplift in performance. It really is the "go-to" for getting the work done quickly...the 500i v 261 they don't really compare or would I want to. They are both great in my inventory. The 261 is great for smaller tree felling and branching. I am not a pro, just like quality tools. Both are fantastic saws and very happy with both @@PurpleCollarLife
That's like saying "I bought a Corolla and why I didn't buy an F450"....
You're somewhat right. The F450 and Corolla are both to get you from A to B. But the F450 won't necessarily get you from A to B faster.
@PurpleCollarLife Corolla will get you there faster, F450 will get you and a backhoe there. Wife and I own have both. They have their own strengths and weaknesses. I'm just saying I've never gone to a family gathering, and had someone ask me why we took the Corolla instead of our flatbed lol
G'day PCL, that MS261 is a good saw, Stihl use a colour code on their saw handles from home owner to pro, orange orange/black white white/black PS I like the old Ford 👍.
Thanks for the info! The old Ford Workmaster tractor is a lot of fun.
Great video, helped me out a lot. Question, what size bar did you have on it in the video, and what chain do you use green or yellow and which do you seem to prefer? Thanks
Glad the video was helpful! This is the 18 inch bar, with the green chain. I have tried both - actually made a video about them: czcams.com/video/nmCX2zD8xec/video.html
I prefer the green chain most of the time.
I went with Stihl MSA300 witch Stihl compares with 261 and it maybe is, however the downside is that even the top battery isn't up to the saw.
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Like the 261. Just does most things. If sharp n patient bigger timber. Yer like em thanx
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these days the "C" designation is more to do with Mtronic the much else> easy start models have different letters. It did seem to mean easy starting previously
Interesting! Thanks for watching.
IMO, a 50cc saw is too small for 24” hardwoods. It works hard to complete the cut. Asking alot from a small engine over a longer period of time, will shorten engine life. For a similar price, you could have entered the 60cc league….a professional grade husky 555 autotune. More power, faster chain speed, better antivibe, adjustable oiler, and better fuel economy/wood cut ratio. Will pull a 24” chain, no problem, if you need a longer bar. Yes, a tad heavier, but egonomics are better, i think, and the extra weight is not noticeable when the saw is in the wood. I dare say, it would go thru those cuts a couple three seconds faster.😀 And easy starting, whether it’s +30° or -30°, the autotune works flawlessly. The airbox is charged with positive air pressure, so the airfilter stay cleaner, longer than a stihl. But there is hope…I saw you had Husqvarna saw pants….🤣 cheers from the great white north
Excellent points!
If you’ve got the cash go for a pro saw every time.
I agree. Thanks for watching!
That Stihl is running really good, because you got them Husqvarna chaps on!😅😂
Now I just need to get some Echo gloves and I'll be all set. :)
Picked up a one time used 261C @ pawn shop for 450 out the door ... Farm boss is gone.
New subscriber . I also have a 261c ….the weight caught my eye then once I used it the power was very impressive. Keep bringing awesome videos. Craig. Hollidaysburg Pa.
Hello Craig! Thanks for subscribing to our NW PA channel. Hollidaysburg is around the Altoona area, right? That's not far from us - about a 2.5 hour drive.
The light weight of the 261C is super impressive - and then like you say, you experience the power of this small saw and it is even more impressive. Thanks for watching!
@@PurpleCollarLife thanks for getting back. Craig
Can anyone help, please? The Ms261-c ( "18 Light 04 bar) states a 4.8mm file... But, when sharpening, I'm finding that the aforementioned file barely fits in the gullet? Seems too tight and awkward to sharpen, but it states it's the correct file? Any advice, please? From "England'istan".
The extra stuff I got with my ms271 I found to be a $148 dollar value. But I did want the ms261c instead cause it had better features.
Thanks for sharing! So the 261C wasn't available with the deals in your area?
@PurpleCollarLife yes wife next me liked the cheaper one but doesn't understand mechanics of the situation so compromise was the best policy
Husky 562xp love it
I might have to try that one out!
A hundred bucks far a case nuts
I read that in an advertisement somewhere - as "$100 value" for the case. I checked the website and I think the actual cost of the case is under $50.
The new Stihl hat does it for me
I did want the hat. :)
@@PurpleCollarLife who wouldn’t … thx for the video btw
Get you a bucking dog (from Stihl) for your clutch cover or a complete set. No aftermarket they bend.
Interesting! I've never heard of a bucking dog.
Chad: has a tailgate full of 3 *Stihl* chainsaws.
Also Chad: wears *Husqvarna* chaps!!
haha, just kidding Buddy 😁
The 261 looks like a lightweight beast. Like you said, I remember it was always Mike's favorite, years ago.
I like to support all the brands. - that leaves me more open to future sponsorships! HA! :)
haha, ab-so-lute-ly!! @@PurpleCollarLife
I too, bought a 261C, great saw. Thanks to Buck in' Billy Ray, who, had just put out a video on sharpening your chain, I get more satisfaction from cutting what few trees I have. But, wow, what a saw. Also have a 250C, great little saw, but, a pain to start when temps get down in the thirties or low forties. Long run time on a tank of fuel.
Now, if you don't have one, a smaller utility trailer works great, unless your deep in the woods with no room to work with.
Nice tractor. I have been running a 1952, TO 30 Ferguson for almost thirty years now.
Stay safe, Big Foot, I heard, just through northeast ohio, heading your way.
Nice saw but I love my 500 I.
Everything I’ve seen on the 500i is super impressive! It looks like a great saw. For my needs right now, it’s not necessary though. The 261 is very fast and light weight, so it’ll do everything I need at this point. That’s not to say that someday I might not need the 500i or a bigger saw for large trees. Thank you for watching!
Any idea if the saw deal is still going? Stihl's website doesn't show anything that I am seeing. I have a buddy that works for Stihl that recommended this exact saw for me, and said it's his favorite saw to get people running. Another buddy of ours has the 500i, I just cant justify thst price. Looks like fun!
The 261 is amazing! Your buddy is correct. It looks like the deal is still going on around here.
www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/
Here's the note on some of the "Special offer" text that I see. "Ask your dealer about eligibility in your area. Offer valid on purchases 9/1/23 through 11/30/23 while supplies last."
@@PurpleCollarLife awesome, just found it! Thanks a bunch!
The 261 have the compression release to help my rotater cuff and weight is 4 .8 pounds lighter the horsepower or cc is not that important or is it
Good call on selecting a saw with the compression relief if you’ve had a shoulder injury. That 261 certainly has a great power-to-weight ratio. Thanks for watching!
I have ms250, 290, 291, and ms460.....The 250 is nice for Firewood.......The 290 is a good general saw, it will tackle most stuff until you start getting into 35" trees, then they definitely get Hot and out of their comfort zone, and gotta switch to ms460.......I also have a 20" bar for the 460, and it becomes Ridiculously over powered firewood cutter or felling saw, LOL......if all else fails, I have some vintage muscle saws around 85-100cc, and they Don't complain, heavy as shit, but just slam the throttle and let it Eat like a tractor. I definitely recommend getting something around 70-90cc range.....yeah you probably won't use it much, but when you need it, it will save your ass!
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. Sounds like you've got a great collection of saws!
What size bar do you have?
Since I have a 16” and 20” for my MS290, and the MS271 has an 18” bar on it - I went with the 18” bar on the MS261. That way I can switch out the bars and chains between any of the three saws. I made sure I got the bar and chain size that matches with the older saws. The newer bars and chains are narrower I believe now. But I probably will sell one of my older saws now that I have the 261. Thanks for watching!
500’s are overhyped but they are great just not Gods gift to man haha. I have two of em and 462 etc…261 is a phenomenal all around saw, really hard to beat for capability and weight.
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Ya got the '61' bit right- 661 all the way
We showed the MS661 in our Alaskan Sawmill video - it IS a powerhouse!! czcams.com/video/lTtSGUCx54I/video.html
he really knows how to use ot without crowding the motor he worked it so well it wants to work it sounds like a big saw all i have is from stihl i have a MS 461
and a MS 661 with a 28" bar
the 661 is 91 cc's
the 461 is 74 cc's i think i luv both of 'em i've cut a lot of hickory with them i luv that smell of hickory
Thanks for watching! I’ve been really happy with all the Stihl products I have (chainsaws, trimmers, blowers).