Mustang Coyote Motor Oil specs: Generation tips and tricks
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- čas přidán 20. 12. 2018
- In this video, Bill explains motor oil specs for all mustang coyote generations.
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CJ Pony Parts hey you said 5w50 sae on your supercharged 2018 could do a video or explain please why the 5w50 oil over 5w20 or 5w30 even? I’m guessing higher hp and tq however I can not find any other yt videos covering this topic. Thanks
This is a great video! Nice!
JesseAndMike great comment so nice 😂
I'm looking forward to the messy oil filter removal as my first is now . Thanks Bill and team . Peace from Up North .
Excellent information. I have and enjoy my new grand sport vette but still love the GT mustang awesome car.
U DO A GREAT JOB. KEEP UP THE HARD WORK
Awesome uour vids make owning my 15 gt even better
Thank you Bill for making that super clear. Now if you could address the ticking issues. No one seems to know the answer.
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Great video on just knowing the basics. You'd be surprised when you ask the service writer what's the recommended oil for your Mustang, I've actually been given no answer other than Ford recommends anywhere between 5k to 7k miles nothing more.
Helpful info, Apparently My local dealership has been putting 5w20 on my 14 track pack. Doing my own oil changes now!
They arent wrong if you are only street driving it. The track pack cars got the 5w50 recommendation with the assumption they are doing get this.......track days. Ford didnt change bearing clearances jist for track pack cars. If anything your dealer has been saving you money.
That was like wow a cool idea with composite pan and plug I was at first dang I want that , but no bill ruins it 2 minutes later they have issues breaking and a new billet replacement ..
You should be running a F.-820S filter, especially with that SC.
Hey Bill how is your red mustang? Do you know anyone having some of the issues like the tick/rattle, or cylinder scoring? Also do you use 5w50 now that yours is supercharged? Do you recommend using a higher weight oil than the factory oil or sticking with the 5w20 on a relatively stock car?
Thanx for the input
Remember 10 quarts not 8.8 for the F150.
10 quarts on the 18 & up wow!!!! I have a 16 and I thought 8 quarts were a lot 😮
Odd, I was reading the manual for my 2019 F150 5.0 and it says 8.8L. That's not good if it actually is supposed to take 10L. I guess that's why you always fire up the motor and let the oil pump around a bit and check the stick and then top up.
Mach 1 with the oil cooler calls for 10 quarts but it’s more like 10.5. Using Amsoil it’s not even dark at 5,000 miles.
Oil is always thicker when cold, regardless if it's 0W-20 or 20W-50. Have to compare the W and non-W rating numbers for viscosity comparisons at temperature.
Forgot to mention for the Gen3 Coyote that Ford recommends 5W-30 for track use. Better engine protection with higher oil temperatures due to track use.
5w30 is the minimum I would go
I have a 2012 Expedition with 45k miles and a 2014 Mustang GT with 62k miles. I've been using Motorcraft synthetic blend 5w20 on both. Should I change to 5w30 synthetic blend for both vehicles, especially with the Expedition because of the cam phasers? I live in Northwest Georgia.
A small tidbit. The oil doesn't thicken when warm. The W "winter" is relative comparison to how that number (0,5,10,etc.) of straight-weight would flow at the designated cold temp.
The latter number (20,30,40,50,etc) is its flow in relative comparison to a straight-weight of that number at that high temp.
I can’t find in the manual where it recommends Full synthetic all I see is 5W-20 Synthetic blend
Wonderful tips Bill! Thank you. Love your cars!
david kucher thank you!
Great info. Thanks for posting Bill.
Would you recommend the same viscosity for winter daily driving in southern Ontario, Canada?
Cool video!
Planning on buying a mustang 2018+......I know what I will be buying first in terms of upgrade mods.
Is the recommended oil a Group 3, 4 or 5 synthetic/
Bill what do your recommend for a 2005 ford Mustang gt that's supercharged
Is oilchange every 6mos or 10k miles which ever one comes first?
I HV A 2017 F-150 Lariat fx4 5.0 v8 with a Roush supercharger. Should I be using 5w50 in mine???
I heard 5w30 is the best.
Doing it myself!!! If you want something done right
I got a question on crankcase breather filters on supercharged S550's. Do these filters shortened the lifespan of the oil making it turn brown alot sooner?
mustang6035 No as oil residue would just be burnt through the the pvc system instead.
My old bmw 335i had 16k mile oil change intervals, according to the dealership.
What about 20w-50 valvoline race oil ??
Ok so if you are working on the car and need to support the engine using the oil pan with a jack what you do? im guessing thats a no go on these plastic pans?
No.. it's perfectly fine to jack the car up using the plastic oil pan as the jack support. It's on the manual somewhere.
I’ve got a 2018 GT with the roush supercharger. I noticed you’ve got an oil separator and was wondering what the part number was on it ?
Would a 15-17 UPR be an option ? I can’t seem to find one specified for the 18s
Bill @ 1:12 you say Ford recommends full synthetic, however that is not true here is the direct quote from the 2018+ owners manual
Recommended motor oil (U.S.): Motorcraft® SAE 5W-20 Premium Synthetic Blend Motor Oil XO-5W20-QSP
They actually recommend a synthetic blend not a full synthetic.
That is an at minimum recommendation.
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My friend, all the additives are synthetic. For both synthetic and non-synthetic.
0:50 : That is not true. The oil does not get thicker when it gets warmer, the opposite is true. The first number only tells you until which temperature the oil remains "pumpable". The oil will nevertheless get thinner when heated up.
The first and second number (before and after the "W") refer to different standards, hence the confusion (a 20W50 does not flow as well at low temperatures as a 5W20 does at high temperatures, just because the number says "20").
Not quite. Each number is a straight grade rating. The 5w means it will act like a straight 5 weight oil would when at 0C and lower. The 20 or 30 in a 5w20/5w30 means it will act like a 30 weight at 100C. You’re right though, thickening only happens with oxidation and contamination
synthetic 5W-30 is better for gen 3 if u pushing it and dealers won’t complain bout warranty if they check
So if they are putting 8 qts. in a 2018, that tells me they don't check the dipstick, because they are dipsticks. My generations always checked it.
I heard doing Syntetic 5W-30 Will avoid and eliminate engine tick.
It did mine
Mine too.
I did, and NO it did not.
Nice Vid oil change. Question is it normal for a 2019 s550 Mustang GT to use 1 qt oil 2,800 miles?
Yes
I have a 2019 S550 with PP1 question is 1/2 qt oil low at 1500 miles is that normal? had about 6 quarter mile pulls. Ford dealer doing oil consumption test
If you drive hard and use the engine for braking it is normal.
@@rider14mcd63 correct sir. My 2012 does the same thing, I run the crap out of it.
The dealer I bought my 2013 gt put 0w 20 dexos2 in it.. Should I be worried? Since it says 5w20 in the manual.. Thanks in advance!
herewego247 if you haven’t changed it I would change it out.
The first number really means nothing unless you live in extremely cold temps.
How come the Gen 3 Coyote in a Mustang takes 10 quarts and the Coyote in an F150 takes 9 ??
Oil always get thinner as it heats up, see Engineering Explained, where he did a good job explaining this.
Hey Bill, does the 5.0 in the 2018 f150 have the same oil requirements?
Jess Ross as far as I know yes but check your owners manual to make sure
@@cjponyparts thanks for the quick response, you're the best
Why use the higher rated oil?
Definitely sticking with my 2013 Gen. 1 Coyote. I mean come on, plastic oil pan and drain plug?
Plastic intake manifold etc
Any exhaust ideas I only have my drivers permit but I don’t want to get pulled over for it being to loud I’m in Cali someone hell please
Borla 3'' ATAK cat-back .....
My Roush cutbacks are loud when you get into the gas but pretty quiet when driving normal. No drone on highway. I have a 19 with 10 speed so it stays at low rpm normal driving.
Can i use ceratec by liqui moly in a mustang gt 2018 with 5w20 motorcraft oil? 25k miles
only manual never automatic.
I’ve been using amsoil 5w-20 is it safe to switch to mobile 1 5w-20?
Same thing.... i have used Royal Purple, loved it, drive train quiet, better throttle response, cost $135 for oil change. Now they said the place i go to the price will be double. So with 85k on 2012 GT i switched to Synthetic 5/20 Mobil 1. Not as responsive or quick to rev like Royal Purple, but like it so far
5w20 is only good up to 220degrees . The phasers in the 5.4 failed more with this oil weight versus 5w30 used out of the us markets
The engineers of the vehicle still say 5w20. Synthetic oils and coolants are much better these days.
What oil do you recommend for Mustang 2021 5.0 if it is drive sometimes really hard but mostly in average regime?
Full synthetic 5w20 5w50 in the summer if you live where its often 90 degrees out and higher.
5w30 Motorcraft full synthetic or Amsoil
You can even put 5w50 actually
Yes, I decided to put millersoil 5w50 even if it higher density makes engine slightly worse performance.
How much oil is required for the 2015-2017 ecoboost engines?
If you use the FL410S oil filter, 5.4 litres. That is something short of 6 US quarts. If you use the longer FL400S filter, it will take an even 6 quarts.
@@johnbroomer3285 Thanks man!
CJ Pony Parts even tho my car is stock, I still drive it hard sometimes, would you reconnect 5w20 still? Or should I bump up to 5w30?
I would stick with 5w20 for occasional hard use, if you race it often or spend longer periods of time at high RPM I would bump up.
Anyone here use amsoil? And is it good?
Any reccomendations for oil weight for cars that see track work 2 to 4 times a year?
Jesus H Medrano probably fine with 5w20 for only a couple trips
CJ Pony Parts cool thanx! I run amsoil do u guys sell amsoil?
Jesus H Medrano we don’t offer it but it’s a great product
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The book says 5w30 can be used.
My 2021 mustang gt requires 5w30 now
So why 5w-50?
I haven't heard of any problems with the plastic oil drain plug.
thereissomecoolstuff so far so good but why not upgrade?
I am bringing a magnetic plastic oil drain plug for the F trucks and mustangs to market. The $58 billet plug is to expensive and I am more worried about issues with it damaging the drain flanges on the oil pan than a like material plastic plug. You asked..
thereissomecoolstuff that’s awesome, if it’s a quality product I am sure you will have buyers!
I work for Ford dealer, and I haven't either. The billet plug is just a marketing ploy.. as the plug is going into a plastic oil pan, so it has to be plastic on plastic with the rubber O ring, so the aftermarket one is not really "billet". Just did my second oil change, my stock plug is perfectly fine with no plan to change mine.
So, if Roush says use 5w50, why is it bad to use 5w30 on a STOCK engine that recommends 5w20?
It's not bad. He even mentions in another video that to help with the ticking noise you can go up to a 5 W 30 oil
I have a supplement manual for track use in my 2019 that recommends changing oil to 5w30 when going to the track. I did my first oil change at 618 miles and put 5w30. It will never see 5w20 again.
My 2021 requires 5w30 now
I use Pennzoil 5w20 platinum or Quaker state ultimate durability full synthetic for the win . Never a problem with k@m gold or silver oil filter
Never use k&n oil filters the inside is like a micro guard!
Mostly use wix xp or fram ultra but silver k@n
Oil never gets thicker with temp lol
It just acts like a thicker warm oil, but it's not actually getting thicker than it was when cold.
Why
Performance Pack 15-17 don’t call for 5w50 on the cap the way Track Pack s197s did?
That is true. I found it odd as well. I’ve heard the 15 - 17 2nd gen crate coyotes call for 5w50.
I have a stock 17 GT. I beat on it so I went with 5w30. I wish Ford was more clear about their oil recommendations.
CAFE has a knife at their throat.
@@AB-coyote what does using 5w30 do differently?
@War Veteran’s Mustang but what does it do differently that 5w20 doesnt?
what happened to 2011 to 2014 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
Can you go back to 5w-20 after using 5w-30?
Yes
Gloves, Bill, gloves! I know it’s for demonstration but you should observe safety around liquids. Eye protection too.
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@@germanshepherd13 sure am…there is a time to party and a time for safety. When I was young I ignored these things, now I don’t.
5:27 thats what he said.
what about ecoboosts
Why not 5w-30? Instead of 5w-20
You can and should use 5w-30 in warmer climates. The same car in Australia uses 5w-30. The servicing dealer would even put 5w-40.
The only reason Ford recommends 5w20 is for fuel economy. I did not buy my Mustang for it’s great fuel economy. 5w30 is recommended if you bring the car to the track and 5w50 is recommended if you add a supercharger. So, it does not appear that the Coyote has any issues with running a thicker oil.
@@chrisk3195 i have read the 10 W-30 Z-ROD® 10W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil Amsoil one Protects better for modified engines. with a Zinc Additive
I have 3 Mustangs, 2017 and 2 2019’s. I change the oil every 3000 still cause I’m old and stuck in my ways. I also have worked for Ford for 17 years and am not running any of them 10,000 mile intervals as recommended. Any of us who know or build engines know that 10k on oil is horrible and horrible for the motor.
I have a 2012 Expedition with 45k miles and a 2014 Mustang GT with 62k miles. I've been using Motorcraft synthetic blend 5w20 on both. Should I change to 5w30 synthetic blend for both vehicles, especially with the Expedition because of the cam phasers? I live in Northwest Georgia.
This is the oil that is better suited to accommodate oil blow-by (the rings) so it can be burned in the combustion chamber and foul the plugs. So, in the big picture your oil level dwindles and your engine blows. Ford quality is and has gone down the crapper.
I've never had oil burning issues using Pennzoil Platinum or Platinum Ultra 5w20...oil is always where it should be through the life of it. 0 cooling issues as well.
10 quarts in the 21 GT
Plastic oil pan and drain? Really Ford? Didn’t know this about the new 5.0.
It's the same oil pan from the GT350.
It comes free with the rod that holds your hood up. The one from 1876
@@Knards lol thankfully mine came with the hood props upgrade of course
Came straight from the GT350. Good enough for the Shelby good enough for the 5.0
Wash machine really? Plastics have been used for years on all types of autos and components. They have been proven to be durable,
V6 gang takes 6 qts 2016😎
The background Music😂😂😂
5W50 (or 5W20) is not "thinner" when cold. All oil is thicker (higher viscosity) when cold than hot, it's just that a straight 5 weight or 30 weight has a certain curve it follows between cold and hot. A multi-weight oil allows you to have the best of both worlds. A 5W50 follows the curve of a thin (5 weight oil) when cold, but when hot follows the curve of a higher viscosity 50 weight oil when hot. A straight 5 weight oil would be almost uselessly thin at 200F while a straight 50 weight would be too thick to even flow at 0F on a cold winter day.
Plastic oil pan and plug really??? Geez
Dont forget the plastic plug is a one time use. UPR has a magnetic billet plug for $50 though.
@@fattemunk $50, wow that's a steal.
@@MrDavidelliottjr I got it on black friday for like 42$ shipped. Not bad but beats buying that crap plastic one every time I do a change.
fattemunk yellow oil is cheap. $3.50 at my ford dealership
fattemunk the yellow oil plug is cheap!! $3.50 at my ford dealership.
That mean don't use 5W30 in hot Area.for me I never believes the cars company's.
Never ever go 10k on any oil if you want to keep your car
I’ve put 15K miles on my car without any oil change. Zero problems/issues.
Yeah for now. In time is when you will get major problems and you will regret it.
The 2018 is a blunder. The 2 extra quarts is nice but the new pan is for the birds. And a large number of 2018s have pistons slap ..GJ Ford
excelerater it is an amazing engine from a power standpoint but yea there have been some issues. So far so good with our CJ cars
But yet here you are watching a video on mustang oil changes. Lol
Small number(fixed it for ya), not large. Seeing only a few youtubers have actual piston slap and not the tick. So much misinformation these days.
10,000 miles is way too many miles on any oil. That will destroy an engine.
ford means plastic in polish
There's "full synthetic" and then there's "100% synthetic". They are NOT the same. Look it up for yourselves
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Gets worse and worse with how many quarts. Lordy mercy. My f350 takes 14 quarts. 2018 GT takes 10. Rediculouse. Come on Ford.
Motorcrap Oil is not a good lubricant. Ford Dealerships are gleefully only putting in 8 quarts of oil into the engines. The coyote requires 10 quarts.
is that the same with the 2015-2017 ?? GT 10 quarts or 8??
If you have a sports car and you take it to get oil changes you need your balls taken away
Hmmm...your what's wrong with a third of the sports car scene.
lol Im sorry im not a cheap ass
Tick tick tick...
Charles Edwards do you have a 2018-2019 GT with the tick?
@@cjponyparts my 2014 did it and then my 2018 did it. Ford refused to address the issue and kept giving me the runaround. I sold it. My last two brand-new Mustang needed motor Replacements in less than ten thousand miles.
Hopefully you guys can get it figured out.
Charles Edwards damn that sucks. I guess we have been lucky, between my cars and the shop cars we have had 10 coyotes from 11-19 and no ticks at all.
@@cjponyparts yeah you guys are really are lucky. I'm sure you've seen the hundreds of videos on CZcams about it. Ford is basically telling customers to eat it. It was really tough for me I've had six Mustang in my life probably won't buy another one until they get this issues sorted out. Thanks for the reply.
Amsoil is the absolute best engine oil you can buy. I’ve studied engine oils for years and no one comes close to amsoil. Motorcraft is worse than valvoline. Mobile 1 is garbage as well. Quakerstate is decent, Castrol is garbage, royal purple is decent but only for race engines and it’s not meant for winter conditions or long lasting. Pen Zoila is decent all around and would be my second choice. But again, amsoil is THE NUMBER 1 oil. Test it and find out for yourselves. Oh and wix filters and motorcraft oil filters are a good quality filter. Fran is the worst. Buy a bunch of filters and cut the tops off “the thread ends” and take them apart and examine them. Plus look at the filtration numbers and the flow rate. And again my statements are backed up by non biased independent sources and studies in scientific labs. Like I said research it.
Bullshit. You're clearly one of those that try to push Amsoil.
Amsoil? Just use walmart brand if you use amsoil.lmao amsoil
Plastic oil pans and drain plugs 😂😂😂😂😂 only ford
Semi trucks use plastic oil pan and go 1000,000+ miles without issues
@@KerempatakUSA2401 dude, say whatever you want, I've been working on cars since I was 6, I will never be sold on a plastic oil pan, and especialy not a plastic plug
Other manufacturers use plastic drain plugs and composite oil pans too. Not just ford. Audi bmw and VW use composite or plastic setups as well and I can tell you that the ford setup is 100X more solid that the other plastic setups I’ve seen.
@@northwesthorsepower8215 that's great. A plastic drain plug is fucking retarted. My best friend is a mechanic and also a ford guy. He absolutly despises the plastic drain pans and plugs.
Let me tell you the truth about oils. First off the first number mean weight of oil which is measured at 240 degrees, next is that the second number is pure fiction and doesnt exist because any oil becomes thinner as it rises above 240 degrees. So 5w 20 or 30 or 40 is still 5 weight oil that will drop down to the thinness of transmission fluid when it gets hot and ATF is a 1.5 Weight oil. That first number is real and any other number is a fictional lie from marketer sales. I retired from Houston fuel oil and was in the refineries daily and know what this oil is and what is real. I live in Houston Tx where it gets very hot so I use a 20 W 50 oil, but I know im actually using a 20 weight. People using 5 weight oil is what causes premature clattering and knocking in todays vehicles. FYI all dealerships have SAE straight 30 weight in their oil tanks that they use on these vehicles with the 5W 20 on the oil caps